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Title: CA Police Cite Tourist For Beating Seagull Who Attacked His Wife
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URL Source: http://cbs2.com/local/Laguna.Bird.Attack.2.906398.html
Published: Jan 13, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-01-13 23:41:00 by Artisan
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Kansas Man Allegedly Kills Seagull Over Ice Cream
LAGUNA BEACH, Calif
Dragan Djuric, 50, of Kansas City faces animal cruelty charges for allegedly killing a rare seagull with a stick over an ice cream.
Erik Oginski/CBS
A Kansas man has ruffled some feathers in Orange County after allegedly beating a rare seagull to death over an ice cream on New Year's Eve in Laguna Beach.
Dragan Djuric, 50, and his wife were visiting Laguna Beach from Kansas City .
The couple was eating ice cream on the boardwalk when they say two seagulls attacked them, knocking the ice cream to the ground. They allege the rare Heermann's Gulls then started pecking away at them.
"They don't attack us, they're birds. That's crazy," a beachgoer told CBS 2 News.
Djuric told police he had no choice but to protect himself. He allegedly beat one gull to death with a stick and injured a second one, which flew off and has not been found.
Witnesses described the attack not as a gentle shooing, but rather as a violent attack on the birds.
Djuric and his wife did not sustain any bite marks or any evidence that a bird had attacked them, according to detectives.
One resident believes Djuric was angry that the birds were eating his wife's ice cream.
"He was very upset about spending money for ice cream that he didn't get to consume," said Sgt. Jason Kravetz of the Laguna Beach Police Department.
According the Audubon Society, Heermann's Gulls are known for being very aggressive and it is not unusual for them to go after people or objects.
Djuric could not be reached by phone, but he told a Kansas radio station that he has nothing to say. He now faces animal cruelty charges.

video: http://cbs2.com/video/?id=89366@kcbs.dayport.com

http://www.coastlinepilot.com/articles/2009/01/13/top_stories/cpt-birdcase011609.txt
No prosecution in bird-beating case
Police: Kansas man attacks bird on beach•
D.A. declines to file criminal case against visitor accused of beating a seagull at Main Beach.

By Cindy Frazier Updated: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:31 AM PST

The Orange County District Attorney’s office has decided not to press charges against a tourist from Kansas who was accused of beating a seagull after it went after his ice cream Dec. 31 on the boardwalk at Main Beach, D.A. spokeswoman Farah Emami said Tuesday.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i5-DwEVB5NjwE3SuyYmvKwwFVkKAD95MKFR00
Poster Comment:
someone told me they saw this story on the tv news. the news reported the onlookers made a 'citizens arrest' of the man after he hit the birds. cops then came and cited him for animal cruelty, lol.
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#1. To: Artisan (#0)
When I was about 13 or so I was fishing on Avalon Pier at Nag's Head, NC. As I strolled down to the end of the pier I zero'ed in on a man who spotted a pod of bottlenose dolphins approaching the pier. The man whipped out a blue steel MOD 36 S&W (with a square butt) and began firing in their general direction, even though they were a hundred yards away and under water with the exception of the occasional breach of a dorsal fin or head.
In other words, his chances of hitting one were roughly the same as digging a latrine a striking the Lost Dutchman's gold stash, and it's doubtful that the critters would relate the popping sound with bullets around or even in them. But the stupid shit insisted that "they'll run the fish off" and was oblivious to how foolish and "unwell" he appeared to others on the pier as he emptied his revolver.
This was years before the passage of the Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA) of 1972 but today the man would end up in federal court, and in addition to forfeiting the firearm he'd pay crushing fines and possibly end up serving weekends in some correctional facility.
Gulls and shorebirds are also protected, and I'd certainly know better than to swat at them unless they pulled a shank on me. The price of a couple of ice cream cones in CA (about forty dollars apiece at some beaches I guess) would be a bargain at twice the price compared to the costs of hiring a lawyer and paying the fines.
And, even though the state has declined to prosecute the man is still subject to federal charges, even though unlikely. The feds don't like to bother with these things unless they're dealing with a habitual poacher who has thumbed his nose at them in the past and some enforcement agent is adamant about prosecution.

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2009-01-14 0:11:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Artisan (#0)
I've been attacked by birds defending their nests, including those oh-so-annoying Canadian geese, and I just shoo them off.
In politics there is no murder.
Turtle posted on 2009-01-14 5:27:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Turtle (#2)
I've been attacked by birds defending their nests, including those oh-so-annoying Canadian geese, and I just shoo them off.

A "Canadian goose" happens to unsuspecting women, mostly, in bars.
The bird is a "Canada goose", a type of migratory waterfowl.

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2009-01-14 5:35:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: HOUNDDAWG (#3)
I shoo both of them off.
In politics there is no murder.
Turtle posted on 2009-01-14 5:42:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: Artisan (#0)
Politicians/Lawmakers always protect seagulls because they are so much alike. They all eat shit and bother people.

noone222 posted on 2009-01-14 5:52:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: HOUNDDAWG (#1) (Edited)
When I was about 13 or so I was fishing on Avalon Pier at Nag's Head, NC. As I strolled down to the end of the pier I zero'ed in on a man who spotted a pod of bottlenose dolphins approaching the pier. The man whipped out a blue steel MOD 36 S&W (with a square butt) and began firing in their general direction, even though they were a hundred yards away and under water with the exception of the occasional breach of a dorsal fin or head.
In other words, his chances of hitting one were roughly the same as digging a latrine a striking the Lost Dutchman's gold stash, and it's doubtful that the critters would relate the popping sound with bullets around or even in them. But the stupid shit insisted that "they'll run the fish off" and was oblivious to how foolish and "unwell" he appeared to others on the pier as he emptied his revolver

In Virginia, I met an idiot who bragged to me how he shoots hawks and owls on sight because "they kill the game." Maybe he's related to the guy you met on the fishing pier.

Rupert_Pupkin posted on 2009-01-14 12:53:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#6)
In Virginia, I met an idiot who bragged to me how he shoots hawks and owls on sight because "they kill the game." Maybe he's related to the guy you met on the fishing pier.

In other words, hawks and owls are big and slow enough for him to hit on the wing, or on the perch.
He probably couldn't hit a duck or a dove if his life depended on it.
And if he bragged about it then he's the best evidence that some people were born to be incarcerated.

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2009-01-14 14:58:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Hounddawg, christine, psusa, freepatriot32, original_intent, james deffenbach (#6)
i felt sorry for the old guy because i know these damn seagulls can be very agressive. , and i can just imagine the kook socialists who 'turned him in' for swatting away the birds that were attacking his wife. now a few yrs ago in santa barbara my wife and i were on a pier eating lunch and , it's funny now, but a sneaky predatory seagull that had been watching us for some time, DOVE ONTO THE TABLE and violently grabbed the hamburger right out of my wife's hand, thank goodness didnt get any fingers. he then shook the food as if it were prey to kill it, splashing catsup all over his face. (very funny visual there). I shooed him away but the bastard kept coming at us. i got the vinegar squeeze bottle and squirted it at the bastard. Some kook then came up and told me 'do not feed the birds' i told him to f-k off and get away from me. , and that when a bird jumps onto your table and grabs your food you're not 'feeding the bird'. that guy who approached and tried to admonish me, along the others who 'turned in' and 'arrested' this tourist is just illustrative of the sick mind-f-cked KOOK society we live in.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
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Artisan posted on 2009-01-15 11:26:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: Artisan (#8)
LOL! What a hilarious story.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2009-01-15 13:34:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: James Deffenbach (#9)
I been listening to Alex Jones lately on the 24/7 gcn Alex Jones show listen line, 512-646-5000. He's right that people are programed and actually believe that they should not and can not protect and defend themselves, and that if they do, they are bad. Can you imagine , what sort of person, would call the cops on some guy who protects his wife from birds that are diving and pecking at her?? man that is just sick.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Artisan posted on 2009-01-15 13:51:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: Artisan (#0)
This story gives Tippi Hedren flashbacks.
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
X-15 posted on 2009-01-15 14:04:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: Artisan (#10)
He's right that people are programed and actually believe that they should not and can not protect and defend themselves, and that if they do, they are bad. Can you imagine , what sort of person, would call the cops on some guy who protects his wife from birds that are diving and pecking at her?? man that is just sick.

What is really sick is that people can be brainwashed into believing that they are wrong to protect themselves and their family and friends from those who would harm them.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2009-01-15 15:23:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Artisan (#8) (Edited)
Some kook then came up and told me 'do not feed the birds' i told him to f-k off and get away from me.

There are times when I do lose my cool, and in that situation I'd angrily ejaculate something appropriate, like, "I didn't feed him, the fucking bird stole it! SO, GO FUCK YOURSELF!"
One time I was in a sparsely peopled area of Central Park with my cute little bitch mutt, and I let her off the leash so she could run.
Well, she ran up to a pukey little sissy boy with her tail wagging, panting her "I'm happy to be alive and on the road" "smile". Well, the kid started freaking and shaking his hands up and down like a baby and acting like a bear was looming over him, and his (obviously New Yorker) daddy started giving me a bunch of shit. It was obvious that his kid was a pisswilly and that the parents enabled his unreasonable fear of cute little animals, so, I told Daddy to go fuck himself. Then, he started giving me shit about my choice of language.
I was really pissed because if I was being stabbed or stomped to death those assholes wouldn't see a thing or say a word. But, he seemed to savor the enjoyment of the moment, with his kid a "victim" and me in breech of the NY leash law. I could read the whole family situation in a glance and it was obvious that this guy had problems, probably with the wife and because of the puke.
Some miserable folks seem to thrive on things like that, and I thought of him immediately when I read about your being admonished not to feed a gull that mugged the little woman.
"Dear Jack, I heard our song and it got me thinking of you. Love, Ennis."
HOUNDDAWG posted on 2009-01-16 0:05:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: HOUNDDAWG (#13)
ha ha! thats a great story, Man i can totally relate to the leash law thing too. similarly, busibodies who peer when your dog is going to the bathroom, just eagerly waiting to 'admonish' you for not picking it up soon enough, ieven if you are at the ready. I once asked one such jerk, 'and who are you, the shit police?' another guy i asked him isnt he ashamed to be a socialist busibody.
i mean, i respect private property and if it's blatantly on someones yard i'll pick it up. the leash law, i dont believe in. i have my dog controlled by voice and sight command. i once fought a leash ticket in santa monica when this kook 300 lb. dog catcher (names shepherd of all things) drove onto private property in her dopg catcher truck to give me a ticket. i beat it in court because she was too lazy to show up.
You know there are busibody tattletales kooks everywhere, it's sad. people in general just seemed more normal when i was growing up. funny i actually posted a video on this topic a few months ago. my dog walking leash free:
Info: CANINE VOICE & SIGHT CONTROL http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=voice+and+sight+control+dogs http://fidos.org/reports/History_of_Dog_Control.html
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Artisan posted on 2009-01-16 13:37:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: Artisan (#14)
....controlled by voice and sight command....

Great dog and great video! (Looks like Huntington Beach pier)
The tiny little town in which I was a resident had an old maid commissioner who despised other people's pets, so she managed to push through a leash law because of the cats wandering in her yard.
At the time I was writing my first column and I made her suffer! Her "Alligator leash law" was soon repealed and replaced with an ordinance that permitted walking pets who respond to voice commands. The fact was that the law was unenforceable and caused hard feelings because the katz who peed on her roses couldn't be caught or matched with owners, and the wife of "the other worst commissioner of all time" abused it.
The former commish, a real hillbilly from (my home state of) VA once walked in the front door of a residence to chide the people for venting laundry water into the street! He apparently believed that he had the authority to enforce town ordinances and to enter homes without warrants! He was the best evidence why people should vote because he simply put his name in and won the seat in an uncontested election for town council!
Well, his neighbor was a lovely young flight attendant for Lufthansa who not only took his wife shopping every week but she brought them gifts from Europe. That is, until the wife reported her for not having her dogs on a leash when she walked them!
The young lady was flabbergasted and when she asked the crazy woman why she reported her, the insane woman said, "What's the problem? You weren't fined or anything!" Needless to say that was the end of the shopping trips and the gifts. (If you really love mee then you'll understand that I'll report you too, because state worship is my religion!"???)
Those people couldn't sleep nights knowing that residents regularly rolled through a right turn at a stop sign on a quiet, dead end street near their home or any other violations, or knowing that some people as Sheriff Buford T. Justice put it, have "a lack of respect for THE LAW!" And they actually made me ashamed to say I was from VA even though they were from the rural part and I was from Tidewater. (Norfolk, VA Beach, with a pop of 1.3 mil peeps)
The hillbilly husband not only used his airgun to destroy a feuding neighbor's central heat/AC condenser unit, but he caught another (of my) lady friend's cat in his yard and beat it to death! (He wasn't charged because the cat didn't die immediately, and legal proof was problematical)
Fortunately the husband died and his wife shortly after. It was my belief that the family had to rent pall bearers to carry this despised, insane, state worshiping couple back to the Hell from whence they came.
I swear, if I hadn't met them and witnessed their behavior I'd have never believed that such people existed.
"Dear Jack, I heard our song and it got me thinking of you. Love, Ennis."
HOUNDDAWG posted on 2009-01-16 14:27:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: HOUNDDAWG (#15)
Geez, sounds like a bunch of sad people. we're on the same page with this one. By the way it was newport beach pier. the dog catcher drives down at 8 am along the beach to give everyone she catches tickets,.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Artisan posted on 2009-01-16 17:23:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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