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Title: Cameras in Digital Convert Boxes! BEWARE!!!!
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URL Source: http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Find-Freedom.htm?EdNo=001&At=045935
Published: Feb 18, 2009
Author: mechanismstudios
Post Date: 2009-02-18 19:24:39 by Itistoolate
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Views: 723
Comments: 44

I could not believe my eyes.

I have a friend who is kind of a conspiracy theorist. He was trying to convince me that the many of the digital TV convert boxes that our coming out have microphones and cameras built into them. Knowing a bit about electronics I bought one of these devices opened it up fully intending on proving him wrong. To my surprise was right. This device has both a miniature camera lens and what looks like a microphone. I was so shocked I took pictures and video Please send this out to every one you know who is using one of these devices.

Hear are the details on the device I bought. Its the MAGNAVOX TB110MW9 Digital to Analog Converter

Below is a video and images of the device.

Cameras in Digital Convert Boxes! BEWARE!!!!


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This is why the Gov't wants to pay for your converter.

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#4. To: Itistoolate (#0)

I went to the original Youtube post. This is most likely a spoof.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2009-02-18   19:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Itistoolate (#0)

What he's calling a microphone looks like a variable resistor known as a potentiometer. It's used for adjusting sensitivity or other parameters. The "camera" looks like the infrared remote control sensor. So the potentiometer is probably a sensitivity adjustment for the remote control sensor.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-18   20:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: FormerLurker (#5)

He says he's is an electrician or at least has knowledge in the area.

or he's a big fake.

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-02-18   20:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Itistoolate (#0)

I can't believe that they are that brazen - yet.

An interesting thought, though.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2009-02-18   20:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: SKYDRIFTER (#7)

yet? Do you think they're going to 'warn' you?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-02-18   20:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Itistoolate (#6)

He says he's is an electrician or at least has knowledge in the area.

Which means he doesn't know what he's talking about. An electrician installs wall sockets and runs wires. An electronic technician is knowledgable about electronic circuitry, which is way beyond running wires and hooking up a wall socket or a switch...

or he's a big fake.

That's the more likely answer.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-18   20:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Itistoolate (#0)

While I can't vouch for the microphone, the "camera" is definitely a camera. That's not to say he didn't stick a $30 mini camera in there for dramatic effect.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-18   21:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Critter (#10)

Who knows for sure?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-02-18   21:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Itistoolate (#11)

Who knows for sure?

I'll know for sure this weekend if mine has a camera in it, the minute I get a minute to take it apart. :)

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-18   21:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Critter (#12)

We'll be waiting for the report.

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-02-18   21:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Itistoolate (#13)

We'll be waiting for the report.

A man called in to Stadtmiller's show this afternoon, saying he'd disassembled two (I believe) of the same model Magnavox boxes in this video. He said there wasn't any surveillance stuff inside of either.

CadetD  posted on  2009-02-18   21:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CadetD (#14)

I'll have to listen to the show , thanks.

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-02-18   22:10:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: CadetD (#14)

Suppose there are cameras and microphones in these boxes. Ok, now for the next question: How are these video and audio streams supposed to be uploaded to "surveillance central"?

Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2009-02-18   22:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Itistoolate (#15)

have to listen to the show

Seems like that caller was in the second hour, rather close to the end.

CadetD  posted on  2009-02-18   22:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Elliott Jackalope (#16)

"surveillance central"?

I've been hearing about these GWEN towers which will be transmitting mind- control vibrations into these boxes, for reception by the viewing audience.

CadetD  posted on  2009-02-18   22:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Elliott Jackalope (#16)

Suppose there are cameras and microphones in these boxes. Ok, now for the next question: How are these video and audio streams supposed to be uploaded to "surveillance central"?

With the cell phone installed it will call home. :-)

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-02-18   22:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Horse (#2)

This video is of rather poor quality.

The "microphone" appears to be a capacitor. It may be a potentiometer, ie, a variable resistor. The contrast is rather poor.

The "Camera" is probably an infrared detector. Yah know, one of dem push-button detektors, like when u push da button it changes the pikture?

Praise JEEZ-us!

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. - Henry Louis Mencken

rack42  posted on  2009-02-18   23:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: All (#20)

None of these "digital to analog" converters are connected to any system.

I'ts like saying that your current TV is spying on you.

Stupid stuff by ignorant people

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. - Henry Louis Mencken

rack42  posted on  2009-02-18   23:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: rack42 (#21)

Stupid stuff by ignorant people

You think Dr. Nick Begich is ignorant?

CadetD  posted on  2009-02-19   0:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: rack42 (#21) (Edited)

None of these "digital to analog" converters are connected to any system.

Did you ever hear of radio waves?

No connection required. They can receive and could transmit radio waves just as easily as a cell phone.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-02-19   0:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: RickyJ (#23)

Did you ever here of radio waves?

G.W.E.N. towers are cell-towers emitting "ground wave emergency network" of low- frequency electromagnetic transmissions.

CadetD  posted on  2009-02-19   1:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Elliott Jackalope, CadetD (#16)

Suppose there are cameras and microphones in these boxes. Ok, now for the next question: How are these video and audio streams supposed to be uploaded to "surveillance central"?

If you have a computer with a camera and microphone - and most now do have them - then you have a surveillance device already in your home. The NSA can reach in and take control and use it to surveil your home. Google uses it already to do "marketing". Of course the software that Google uses was most likely developed by "The Company" so guess who's coming to dinner?

If you have a cell phone you are carrying around a "bug". The NSA can activate the camera and microphone even if the phone is "turned off".

The surveillance technology is becoming so common it virtually now ever present.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-19   1:33:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Itistoolate (#0)

EXCERPT:

" "THE NEW ORDER OF BARBARIANS"
Tape 2

This is a transcript of the second of three tapes on the "New Order of Barbarians", referred to on the tapes simply as the "new world system." Tapes one and two, done in 1988, are the reminiscences of Dr. Lawrence Dunegan, a pediatrician from Pittsburgh, who sat through a talk in 1969, while insider, Dr. Richard Day, spoke of the planned future of America and Americans. Day was speaking to a group of Pediatric Physicians who were told, "No note-taking and no tape recorders." ......."

".....BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU, WHILE YOU'RE WATCHING TV

There was some mention, also, of implants that would lend themselves to surveillance by providing radio signals. This could be under the skin or a dental implant... put in like a filling so that either fugitives or possibly other citizens could be identified by a certain frequency from his personal transmitter and could be located at any time or any place by any authority who wanted to find him. This would be particularly useful for somebody who broke out of prison.

There was more discussion of personal surveillance. One more thing was said, "You'll be watching television and somebody will be watching you at the same time at a central monitoring station."

Television sets would have a device to enable this. The TV set would not have to be on in order for this to be operative. Also, the television set can be used to monitor what you are watching. People can tell what you're watching on TV and how you're reacting to what you're watching. And you would not know that you were being watched while you were watching your television.

How would we get people to accept these things into their homes? Well, people would buy them when they buy their own television. They won't know that they're on there at first. This was described by being what we now know as Cable TV to replace the antenna TV. When you buy a TV set this monitor would just be part of the set and most people would not have enough knowledge to know it was there in the beginning. And then the cable would be the means of carrying the surveillance message to the monitor. By the time people found out that this monitoring was going on, they would also be very dependent upon television for a number of things. Just the way people are dependent upon the telephone today.

One thing the television would be used for would be purchases. You wouldn't have to leave your home to purchase. You just turn on your TV and there would be a way of interacting with your television channel to the store that you wanted to purchase. And you could flip the switch from place to place to choose a refrigerator or clothing. This would be both convenient, but it would also make you dependent on your television so the built-in monitor would be something you could not do without. There was some discussion of audio monitors, too, just in case the authorities wanted to hear what was going on in rooms other than where the television monitor was, and in regard to this the statement was made, "Any wire that went into your house, for example your telephone wire, could be used this way."

I remember this in particular because it was fairly near the end of the presentation and as we were leaving the meeting place, I said something to one of my colleagues about going home and pulling all of the wires out of my house… except I knew I couldn't get by without the telephone. And the colleague I spoke to just seemed numb. To this day, I don't think he even remembers what we talked about or what we heard that time, cause I've asked him. But at that time he seemed stunned.

Before all these changes would take place with electronic monitoring, it was mentioned that there would be service trucks all over the place, working on the wires and putting in new cables. This is how people who were on the inside would know how things were progressing. ......."

www.sweetliberty.org/nobarbarians2.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-19   1:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Original_Intent (#25)

The surveillance technology is becoming so common it virtually now ever present.

hahaha...I see you!

CadetD  posted on  2009-02-19   1:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: CadetD (#27)

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-19   1:54:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#26)

Before all these changes would take place with electronic monitoring, it was mentioned that there would be service trucks all over the place, working on the wires and putting in new cables. This is how people who were on the inside would know how things were progressing. ......."

That's a good post for this thread. I read it several years ago; made me realize lots of people are insiders. Now, in hindsight, can see I've partied with/worked for/dated various such sociopaths. Included a Nature Conservancy director, assistant city-manager, and a Rhodes Scholar-former Goldman Sachs banker. They seemed so charming.

CadetD  posted on  2009-02-19   2:13:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Original_Intent, all (#25)

I have a feeling the computer monitor can act as a camera.

Just a suspicion.


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2009-02-19   2:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: CadetD (#29)

They seemed so charming.

Like a pretty snake in the grass. They truly are sociopaths....no conscience whatsoever it seems. Everything is so matter-of-fact.

I read this article several years ago as well, on a great site that unfortunately went down and never came back up. I think the guy got sick. He educated a lot of people though....really brought this incredible stuff of nightmares to public consciousness. I know it's all true; I've known it for years, and at the same time, it is all so difficult to fathom.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-19   2:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#31)

They truly are sociopaths....no conscience whatsoever it seems.

Yeah, but they do know how to party!

CadetD  posted on  2009-02-19   2:53:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Itistoolate, all (#0)

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"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2009-02-19   3:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: rack42, ALL (#21)

None of these "digital to analog" converters are connected to any system.

Although the video may indeed be a hoax rack, I'm a General class Ham Radio Operator and I can assure you I can talk to new Zealand 7500 miles away through the air, with my radio connected to no system but a car battery and a piece of wire for an antenna, a morse code key and/or microphone.
The only "system" needed is the ground, line of sight, or the ionosphere.

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ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-02-19   5:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Itistoolate, Rotara (#26) (Edited)

I had posted a bit of this speech a while back here:

Smoking gun! Rockefeller Official Revealed NWO Plot in 1969 http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=91860 and my note in the first comment:

"side note to myself. A link to an article about a book written by Henry Makow, Cruel Hoax, gives a definition of "political zionism", which is what the 1871 illuminati plan for three world wars calls for to fight Moslems:

"Political Zionism is an agency of Big Business. It is being used by Jewish and Christian financiers in this country and Great Britain, to make Jews believe that Palestine will be ruled by a descendant of King David who will ultimately rule the world. What delusion! It will lead to war between Arabs and Jews and eventually to war between Muslims and non-Muslims. That will be the turning point of history." (Henry H. Klein, "A Jew Warns Jews," 1947) www.cruelhoax.ca/"

Rotara, I am also addressing you because this thread ties in to something you posted yesterday by PASTOR [??? correct me if I'm wrong] Chuck Baldwin about George Washington, the so-called "Father of our country" vs. that other scoundrel, "Honest" Abe Lincoln. Seeing Washington referred to as "Father of our country" set me off, as it usually does. I started to reply to that a couple of times, and threw up my hands. WTH, even pastors don't "get it", blasting the deification of one scoundrel while deifying another man. Now I may have to go back and voice my objections once again, because this is a HOLY WAR against Christ and Christians, and it is being waged from Great Britain! [Psalm 2]. Let me connect some dots once again.

While searching for my above post at 4um, I ran across some other related sites. I'm going to quote the beginning of Part One of the tape from the following site, because I followed a couple of their embedded links, which brought me right back to that so-called "Father of our Country":

"New Order of Barbarians

The New Order of Barbarians is the transcript of three tapes of reminiscences made by Dr. Lawrence Dunegan, of a speech given on March 20, 1969 by Dr Richard Day, an insider of the "Order," recorded by Randy Engel in 1988. Dr Dunegan claims he attended a medical meeting on March 20, 1969 where Dr Richard Day (who died in 1989 but at the time was Professor of Paediatrics at Mount Sinai Medical School in New York and was previously the Medical Director of Planned Parenthood Federation of America) give "off the record" remarks during an addressed at the Pittsburgh Pediatric Society to a meeting of students and health professionals, who were destined to be leaders in medicine and health care. In tape three, recorded by Randy Engel, Dunegan details Dr Day's credentials and what is clear from this is that Day was an Establishment [ http://www.overlordsofchaos.com/...hope__expose_of_the_.html ] insider privy to the overarching plan of an Elite Group that rules the Western world for the creation of a World Dictatorship. A Global Tyranny usually called the New World Order containing a secular and a spiritual component -the One World Government and the One World Religion: A future reality that those who understand such things call Lucifer's Totalitarian World Empire.

Before he began his talk, Dr. Day asked everyone to turn off all tape recorders and stop note taking so that he could tell them, the prospective leaders of organised medicine, what was going to happen in the future. Dr. Dunegan sensed Dr. Day's message was important, disobeyed the request and recorded what was said as notes on napkins, later writing up these notes, which were the basis of the interview with Engel, the National Director of the US Coalition for Life. The notes taken by Dunegan reveal not just what is planned for the entire world's people but also how this evil cabal intend to carry out this plan. For, those who understand such things will recognise that Day's remarks are merely reiteration of the secret agenda of the Global Elite to wipe out swathes of humanity by promoting ill health and spurious medical treatments while suppressing effective treatments for diseases as well as the deliberate Darwinintroduction of man-made pathogens, like AIDS, into the human gene pool.

Throughout is talk Day justifies his observations by using a philosophy founded upon a spurious theory made famous by the English natural scientist Charles Darwin (1809-82) vis-à-vis evolution by "natural selection." That is, a posited natural process resulting in the evolution of organisms best adapted to the environment pithily described by an ardent supporter of it, the English philosopher and sociologist Herbert Spencer (1820-1903), as the "survival of the fittest." Spencer also promptly applied Darwin's hypothesis to human societies. Thus, while Darwin restricted his formula of organic evolution (wherein new species arise and are perpetuated by "natural selection") to the animal kingdom others followed Spencer and extended "natural selection" to human society. Spencer's theory, often called Social Darwinism (whereby human society mimics the jungle and only those best able to cope with the many testing dangers survive and perpetuate their characteristics into future generations and so ever increase the degree of separation of human society from the degenerate) is the scientific basis of Eugenics and everything it connotes.

NietzscheThe German philosopher Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (1844-1900) best remembered for his concept of the "superman" and for his rejection of Christian values is one of the philosophical giants of this movement. Dr Day, an ardent atheist, was thus a spokesman for those who view human existence as merely an extension of the jungle and whose self-appointed task is to safeguard what advances have been made by humans, epitomised by Western Civilisation, by rooting out "weakness" and "degeneracy" from the human gene pool. Moreover, in so doing, not only preserve what advances humanity has made in this evolutionary process but also to "help" it along. It is this pernicious philosophy, wholly inimical to the true purpose of Creation wrought by the Will of God, and of the Natural Moral Order therein, which lies barely concealed in much of the wicked works of those who strive to build their New World Order. It is also part of the reason why a major component of the plan for the New World Order is not only Eugenics but also Population Reduction and genocide. Moreover, **** it is the reason why people like Dr Day hate Christianity, which in its truest form concretises Natural Moral Order, and seeks its destruction here on Earth as a spiritual reality.

Although Day knew and spoke of the Secret Agenda within organised medicine to cull the world's population, he was also privy to the wider goals of the conspirators working to bring about World Dictatorship under their direct control. In his introductory remarks, Dr. Richard Day commented that he was free to speak at this time (1969) since, even a few years earlier, he would not have been able to say what he was about to say. However, he was now free to speak at this time because the Ancient Ambition of the Secret Societies for World Empire, the closely guarded "Closed Conspiracy" was now an "Open Conspiracy" because as Day crowed:

"... everything is in place and nobody can stop us now." [ATKHWDI: Can you say "Titanic"?]

Amongst the hitherto Secret Plans Day outlined were the morals revolution that had shook Western society to its foundations and the ushering onto the world's stage a New World Religion, the One World Religion of the New World Order, **** which would be brought about by the churches themselves, especially the Roman Catholic Church. Moreover, he discussed "bringing the nation to the brink of nuclear war" and the cynical control and use of "terrorism" to bring about World Government and the New World Order. ............"

http://www.overlordsofchaos.com/..._order_of_barbarians.html

Amongst the hitherto Secret Plans Day outlined were the morals revolution that had shook Western society to its foundations and the ushering onto the world's stage a New World Religion, the One World Religion of the New World Order, which would be brought about by the churches themselves....."

Chuck Baldwin, TAKE NOTE! [Search http://usa-the-republic.com "The Illuminati and the Council on Foreign relations christianity men of the cloth". Then see this: http://www.hisholychurch.net/sermon/apotheos.HTM / http://www.hisholychurch.net/sermon/fatherabba.html . Then search "Cornwallis to George Washington holy war against America divine government British empire churches used to teach jews' religion" http://sweetliberty.org ...... WOW! I just went to save people the trouble of looking this up, and found ANOTHER of my rants against Washington:

4um: George Washington was Right
Dec 19, 2006 ... George Washington and Haim [Haym] Solomon and the Judeo-British Empire ... that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that "a holy war will now begin ... "Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion
and in less .... Under America's system of religious freedom, church and state are separate. ... http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=41804

When I went to open it, would you believe the number of views read "666"!!! Is that supposed to be a message from above or what?? Here it is....check it out. The next person to open it should get "667": [EDIT: well, maybe you'll get "668" because I just posted this link, and it came up "667" for me.]

Title: George Washington was Right
Source: Rockwell
URL Source: [None]
Published: Dec 19, 2006
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2006-12-19 09:16:00 by bluedogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 666 ]

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=41804

Let me post/preserve this before my computer decides to freeze up and I never get this opportunity again, and then I'll continue connecting those dots.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-19   8:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#35)

That is, a posited natural process resulting in the evolution of organisms best adapted to the environment pithily

Uh...no...Darwin's theory was that organisms begin to adapt to their environment through genetic mutation not that the best adapt. ALL organisms evolve.

war  posted on  2009-02-19   8:58:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Itistoolate (#35)

In tape three, recorded by Randy Engel, Dunegan details Dr Day's credentials and what is clear from this is that Day was an Establishment [ www.overlordsofchaos.com/...hope__expose_of_the_.html ] insider privy to the overarching plan of an Elite Group that rules the Western world for the creation of a World Dictatorship. A Global Tyranny usually called the New World Order containing a secular and a spiritual component -the One World Government and the One World Religion: A future reality that those who understand such things call Lucifer's Totalitarian World Empire.

"Tragedy and Hope: Expose of the Shadow Government

Carroll Quigley

(excerpts from pages 945-956)

Carroll Quigley "Our concern at the moment is with the links between Wall Street and the Left, especially the Communists......."

[and then Quigley goes into the "London" [COMMUNIST] connections to our imperial presidency....some of it is delusional and self-serving, but there is a whole lot of hidden truth in it, i.e., it reveals the HIDDEN HAND in all the wars, death, and physical, moral, and financial destruction of the world]

Excerpts:

".... This radical Right fairy tale, which is now an accepted folk myth in many groups in America, pictured the recent history of the United States, in regard to domestic reform and in foreign affairs, as a well-organized plot by extreme Left-wing elements, operating from the White House itself and controlling all the chief avenues of publicity in the United States, to destroy the American way of life, based on private enterprise, laissez faire, and isolationism, in behalf of alien ideologies of Russian Socialism and British cosmopolitanism (or internationalism). This plot, if we are to believe the myth, worked through such avenues of publicity as The New York Times and the Herald Tribune, the Christian Science Monitor and the Washington Post, the Atlantic Monthly and Harper's Magazine and had at its core the wild-eyed and bushy-haired theoreticians of Socialist Harvard and the London School of Economics.

It was determined to bring the United States into World War II on the side of England (Roosevelt's first love) and Soviet Russia (his second love) in order to destroy every finer element of American life and, as part of this consciously planned scheme, invited Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, and destroyed Chiang Kai-shek, all the while undermining America's real strength by excessive spending and unbalanced budgets …

This myth, like all fables, does in fact have a modicum of truth. There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies (notably to its belief that England was an Atlantic rather than a European Power and must be allied, or even federated, with the United States and must remain isolated from Europe), but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known …

" The chief aims of this elaborate, semisecret organization were largely commendable: to coordinate the international activities and outlooks of all the English-speaking world into one (which would largely, it is true, be that of the London group); [ATKHWDI Note: Cornwallis to the so-called "Father of our country".....] to work to maintain the peace; to help backward, colonial, and underdeveloped areas to advance toward stability, law and order, and prosperity along lines somewhat similar to those taught at Oxford and the University of London (especially the School of Economics and the Schools of African and Oriental Studies) … These organizations and their financial backers were in no sense reactionary or Fascistic persons, as Communist propaganda would like to depict them. Quite the contrary. They were gracious and cultured gentlemen of somewhat limited social experience who were much concerned with the freedom of expression of minorities and the rule of law for all, who constantly thought in terms of Anglo-American solidarity, of political partition and federation, and who were convinced that they could gracefully civilize the Boers of South Africa, the Irish, the Arabs, and the Hindus, and who are largely responsible for the partitions of Ireland, Palestine, and India, as well as the federations of South Africa, Central Africa, and the West Indies. Their desire to win over the opposition by cooperation worked with Smuts but failed with Hertzog, worked with Gandhi but failed with Menon, worked with Stresemann but failed with Hitler, and has shown little chance of working with any Soviet leader. If their failures now loom larger than their successes, this should not be allowed to conceal the high motives with which they attempted both …

It was this group of people, whose wealth and influence so exceeded their experience and understanding, who provided much of the frame-work of influence which the Communist sympathizers and fellow travelers took over in the United States in the 1930's. It must be recognized that the power that these energetic Left-wingers exercised was never their own power or Communist power but was ultimately the power of the international financial coterie, and, once the anger and suspicions of the American people were aroused, as they were by 1950, it was a fairly simple matter to get rid of the Red sympathizers. Before this could be done, however, a congressional committee, following backward to their source the threads which led from admitted Communists like Whittaker Chambers, through Alger Hiss, and the Carnegie Endowment to Thomas Lamont and the Morgan Bank, fell into the whole complicated network of the interlocking tax-exempt foundations. The Eighty-third Congress in July 1953 set up a Special Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations with Representative B. Carroll Reece, of Tennessee, as chairman. It soon became clear that people of immense wealth would be unhappy if the investigation went too far and that the "most respected" newspapers in the country, closely allied with these men of wealth, would not get excited enough about any relevations to make the publicity worth while, in terms of votes or campaign contributions. An interesting report showing the Left-wing associations of the interlocking nexus of tax-exempt foundations was issued in 1954 rather quietly. Four years later, the Reece committee's general counsel, Rene A. Wormser, wrote a shocked, but not shocking, book on the subject called Foundations: Their Power and Influence …

One of the most interesting members of this Anglo-American power structure was Jerome D. Greene (1874-1959). Born in Japan of missionary parents, Greene graduated from Harvard's college and law school by 1899 and became secretary to Harvard's president and corporation in 1901-1910. This gave him contacts with Wall Street which made him general manager of the Rockefeller Institute (1910-1912), assistant to John D. Rockefeller in philanthropic work for two years, then trustee to the Rockefeller Institute, to the Rockefeller Foundation, and to the Rockefeller General Education Board until 1939. For fifteen years (1917-1932) he was with the Boston investment banking firm of Lee, Higginson, and Company, most of the period as its chief officer, as well as with its London branch. As executive secretary of the American section of the Allied Maritime Transport Council, stationed in London in 1918, he lived in Toynbee Hall, the world's first settlement house, which had been founded by Alfred Milner and his friends in 1884. This brought him in contact with the Round Table Group in England, a contact which was strengthened in 1919 when he was secretary to the Reparations Commission at the Paris Peace Conference. Accordingly, on his return to the United States he was one of the early figures in the establishment of the Council on Foreign Relations, which served as the New York branch of Lionel Curtis's Institute of International Affairs …

As an investment banker, Greene is chiefly remembered for his sales of millions of dollars of the fraudulent securities of the Swedish match king, Ivar Kreuger. That Greene offered these to the American investing public in good faith is evident from the fact that he put a substantial part of his own fortune in the same investments. As a consequence, Kreuger's suicide in Paris in April 1932 left Greene with little money and no job. He wrote to Lionel Curtis, asking for help, and was given, for two years, a professorship of international relations at Aberystwyth, Wales. The Round Table Group controlled that professorship from its founding by David Davies in 1919, in spite of the fact that Davies, who was made a peer in 1932, had broken with the Round Table because of its subversion of the League of Nations and European collective security … On his return to America in 1934, Greene also returned to his secretaryship of the Harvard Corporation and became, for the remainder of his life, practically a symbol of Yankee Boston, as trustee and officer of the Boston Symphony Orchestra, the Gardner Museum in Fenway Court, the New England Conservatory of Music, the American Academy in Rome, the Brookings Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation, and the General Education Board (only until 1939). He was also director of the Harvard Tercentenary Celebration in 3934-1937 … Greene is of much greater significance in indicating the real influences within the Institute of Pacific Relations than any Communists or fellow travelers. He wrote the constitution for the lPR in 1916, was for years the chief conduit for Wall Street funds and influence into the organization, was treasurer of the American Council for three years, and chairman for three more, as well as chairman of the International Council for four years …

Jerome Greene is a symbol of much more than the Wall Street influence in the IPR. He is also a symbol of **** the relationship between the financial circles of London and those of the eastern United States which reflects one of the most powerful influences in twentieth-century American and world history. The two ends of this English-speaking axis have sometimes been called, perhaps facetiously, the English and American Establishments. There is, however, a considerable degree of truth behind the joke, a truth which reflects a very real power structure. It is this power structure which the Radical Right in the United States has been attacking for years in the belief that they are attacking the Communism. This is particularly true when these attacks are directed, as they so frequently are at "Harvard Socialism," or at "Left-wing newspapers" like The New York Times and the Washington Post, or at foundations and their dependent establishments, such as the Institute of International Education … These misdirected attacks by the Radical Right did much to confuse the American people in the period 1948-1955, and left consequences which were still significant a decade later. By the end of 1953, most of these attacks had run their course. The American people, thoroughly bewildered at widespread charges of twenty years of treason and subversion, had rejected the Democrats and put into the White House the Republican Party's traditional favorite, a war hero, Dwight D. Eisenhower. At the time, two events, one public and one secret, were still in process. The public one was the Korean War of 1950-1953; the secret one was the race for the thermonuclear bomb."......"

www.overlordsofchaos.com/...hope__expose_of_the_.html

The more things CHANGE, the more they stay the same!

This article had a link to some great NWO quotes, which I only STARTED to read. This one jumped out at me:

".....Nikita-Khrushchev

'We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism, until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism.'

Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev (1894-1971) the Soviet dictator heir to the monster Joseph Stalin who later denounced Stalin for his over-zealousness in his pursuit of the Communist ideal. The source of this quote is the Congressional Record page 12622 of the issue of July 26, 1961 as quoted by as Sen. J Strom Thurmond in his famous assault on the US Defense Department for "muzzling the military." That is, Thurmond believed that the public-speaking talents of US military men "might well" be needed to make America aware that the raft of social legislation being driven through Congress and the Senate was Socialism, and socialism is Communism and so the antithesis of America as envisioned by its founders. Thus, any honest analysis of the degenerate state of American society due to this purposeful Socialist social engineering, as predicted by Khrushchev, has succeeded. "

New World Order Quotes 1960-64

www.overlordsofchaos.com/...n_Science_MonitorontheCFR

Long before Khrushchev, Cornwallis predicted it to his comrade George Washington. The "divine government" of the Judeo-British-Empire is COMMUNISM.....And the "all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Judeo-Freemasonry" is now in our living rooms and bedrooms! ....well, not mine.

One more time:

"Jonathan Williams recorded in his LEGIONS OF SATAN, 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that "a holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown." Cornwallis went on to explain what would seem to be a self contradiction: "Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry." And indeed George Washington himself was a Mason, and he gave back through a false religion what he had won with his army."

George Washington "Father of our country"?

I think not. He is another one identified with [by his coat-of-arms] the second eagle of Ezekiel 17:1-10. kingjbible.com/ezekiel/17.htm

Let me post this before I lose it. I just found some things to check out re that eagle.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-19   10:24:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#37)

more quotes.....

"How then was it that this Government [American], several years after the war was over, found itself owing in London and Wall Street several hundred million dollars to men who never fought a battle, who never made a uniform, never furnished a pound of bread, who never did an honest day's work in all their lives?...The facts is, that billions owned by the sweat, tears and blood of American laborers have been poured into the coffers of these men for absolutely nothing. This 'sacred war debt' was only a gigantic scheme of fraud, concocted by European capitalists and enacted into American laws by the aid of American Congressmen, who were their paid hirelings or their ignorant dupes. That this crime has remained uncovered is due to the power of prejudice which seldom permits the victim to see clearly or reason correctly: 'The money power prolongs its reign by working on prejudices. 'Lincoln said." (Mary E. Hobard, The Secrets of the Rothschilds).

"If this mischievous financial policy [the United States Government issuing interest-free and debt-free money] which had its origin in the North American Republic during the war (1861-65) should become indurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without a debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of civilized governments of the world. The brains and the wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every Monarch on the globe!" (London Times Editorial, 1865)

just posted at George Washington Was Right www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bi...?ArtNum=41804&Disp=16#C16

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-19   11:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#35)

When I went to open it, would you believe the number of views read "666"!!! Is that supposed to be a message from above or what??

Uh oh, somebody is apparently trying to tell you something. Maybe it's not a message from above, but from the DEVIL!


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-19   11:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#39) (Edited)

I knew somebody would say that....should have known it would be you who touts his works.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-19   12:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Itistoolate, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, CadetD, FormerLurker, Horse, Critter, Wudidiz, All (#0)

Alex Jones talked about this at the beginning of his show today and it appears to be either a hoax by some joker or planted disinfo. Per Alex he had a couple of engineers in his office look at a couple of identical Magnavox boxes and there was no camera or microphone. He said further that per the same engineers the microphone in the video did not appear to be attached and that there was no logical place in the circuitry to hook it into the circuit.

While Alex would not go that far out on a limb my guess would be planted disinfo to discredit the fact that people are beginning to become aware of the pervasiveness and sophistication of the surveillance technology that is actually in use. Examples that are documented are such as your computer's camera and microphone, phone taps by the NSA, your cellphone etc., ...

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-19   12:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Original_Intent (#41)

If it's a hoax, which it seems to be now, then it was more than likely done simply to have a "Most Viewed" video, for vanity's sake.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-19   21:42:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: IndieTX (#34)

I'm a General class Ham Radio Operator

How to say this?

I've build receivers and a few transmitters. I understand the theory. I'm not an amateur operator, ie, not licensed.

I'm aware of the milli-watt contests and the results, but I'm talking practical in this instance: simply consider the bandwith needed.

Well, I'm dropping it. Interesting to know that you're an "operator" :)

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. - Henry Louis Mencken

rack42  posted on  2009-02-23   21:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: RickyJ (#23) (Edited)

Did you ever hear of radio waves?

Yes I have for, oh, about 45 years, I guess.

Are you familiar with the bandwidth required to transmit television?

If these boxes have transmitters, at what frequency do they transmit?

For those without a background in electromagnetic propagation, I suggest going to your local library and reading an AARL Handbook.

If your library has the magazine QRL or 73, read a few or many issues. It might quell your fears, if you understand what you're reading.

On the other hand, if the box employees cellphone technology, you're screwed.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. - Henry Louis Mencken

rack42  posted on  2009-02-23   22:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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