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Title: Is lucysmom As Gullible and Naive as her posts indicate? Could it be possible?
Source: LP
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=257643#C32
Published: Mar 3, 2009
Author: me
Post Date: 2009-03-03 16:27:49 by James Deffenbach
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Views: 1838
Comments: 261

There is a bit of hypocrisy going on here. This kind of abuse of the court system is rightly condemned by conservatives when the target of the suits are corporations but now applauded when the target is an individual.

Any looney tune can file a suit and issue a subpoena requesting any personal information he desires (you don't even need a lawyer to do it) and the target is forced to respond. It could even happen to you.

IMHO, there is something obscene about demanding the scope of personal information that these suits are after. The "birthers" demand the right to poke through the details of Obama's early life longing for anything to use against him. They are using the court system to harass and hound while wrapping them selves in the noble cloak of patriotism. They make the word dirty.

lucysmom posted on 2009-03-03 10:40:46 ET Reply Trace


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The "birthers" are merely asking for actual PROOF that Obama is in fact an AMERICAN. His long form birth certificate, which could be produced at almost no cost, could confirm that he is or prove that he is not. Why is he and the DNC spending huge sums of money to keep it hidden if it actually proves that he is a citizen? I suspect that it proves the opposite for there would be no other reason not to disclose it.

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#24. To: Rhino369 (#20)

Are you dumb asses who believe wild conspiracies with no evidence as dumb as you appear? Extremely likely.

Seriously, were you butt raped by a gang of feral priests when you were young ???


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-04   12:25:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

With him saying false flags are coming, and Glenn Beck discussing FEMA camps, the big, ball of poop is gaining steam - which is just fine with me.

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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-04   12:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war (#17)

Let it go Moonbats...let is go...

You Obamabots should all ask your hero to produce that instead of taking up for him keeping it hidden. You have to know that there is something worth hiding for someone to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to hide a document that they could produce and (maybe) end the controversy for much less than a hundred dollars. Some hero you have there, lefty.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   13:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#19)

It's a pretty dispicable exercise writing about someone cross board, btw.

KMA. I will post whatever I want to post about anyone I choose to post it about. She made herself a target posting stupid stuff about how terrible everyone is being to her Obamasiah.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   13:33:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Rhino369 (#20)

Are you dumb asses who believe wild conspiracies with no evidence as dumb as you appear? Extremely likely.

Amyone who believes that that there is nothing wrong with someone would spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to hide a document which he could easily produce for less than a hundred, and which would prove that he was actually born in this country (if he was), ain't all there. I used to think you had some sense but seeing you take up for Obama the way you do I have reassessed that idea. And if you think an Obamabot thinking I am "dumb" is going to bother me you are even crazier than you sound when you are defending the indefensible.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   13:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: war (#17)

Let it go Moonbats...let is go...

If there had been a question about Bush's birth certificate, would you have said, "let it go"?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-04   13:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: bluegrass (#21)

If he was born in Kenya, as his Kenyan grandmother and some of his other relatives there claim, that alone would disqualify him because his mother could not have passed on her American citizenship to him under the law as it existed at that time.

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Here is a "birth certificate" that is just as good as the one they Photoshopped and claimed that it proved he was born in Hawaii.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   13:40:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: James Deffenbach (#30)

I believe that he was born in Hawaii. That being said, his father's foreign citizenship immediately makes him ineligible to be president as a natural born citizen is someone born on American soil of two citizen parents. Obama doesn't fit the bill and he knows it.

Priceless

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-04   14:13:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rhino369, ALL (#20)

Are you dumb asses who believe wild conspiracies with no evidence as dumb as you appear

Damn frigging hit and run roach came through the door again. SMASH!!

Bye now.

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IndieTX  posted on  2009-03-04   14:20:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: bluegrass (#29)

That's the wrong question to ask. First off, I have no question about Obama's birth certificate. And had I, the statements of Hawaiian officials laid those to rest last Summer.

Secondly, the correct question to ask is WHY hasn't the BC ever been an issue before?

war  posted on  2009-03-04   15:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: IndieTX (#32)

Do you really believe that William Wallace said that?

war  posted on  2009-03-04   15:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: James Deffenbach (#30)

If he was born in Kenya, as his Kenyan grandmother and some of his other relatives there claim

Horsehit. His garandma never so claimed. An interviewer claimed that his Grandma so claimed.

Anyway...feel free to wax eloquently about how Obama could have been born on Augist 4th, 1961 in Kenya and had his birth registered two business days later in the State of Hawaii.

Thanks in advance.

war  posted on  2009-03-04   15:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: James Deffenbach, lucysmom (#27)

KMA. I will post whatever I want to post about anyone I choose to post it about. She made herself a target posting stupid stuff about how terrible everyone is being to her Obamasiah.

You are such a MAAAAN...not only did you pick on a girl you did so where she could not respond.

Yowzah what musckles you have...

war  posted on  2009-03-04   15:07:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

You Obamabots

You lost the argument there. NOt that there was an argument. He produced a COLB last year and it was verified as authentic by Hawaii.

war  posted on  2009-03-04   15:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: James Deffenbach (#28)

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.

-Lord Acton

James Deffenbach is a Moonbat

-war

war  posted on  2009-03-04   15:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: war (#33) (Edited)

I have no question about Obama's birth certificate.

Many people do. A lot of them are in the military, It's perfectly legitimate for those being commanded to know the qualifications of their commander.

the statements of Hawaiian officials laid those to rest last Summer.

So we're to believe undocumented claims because government officials say so? Did you support the Iraq invasion because people in the government just said so?

Getting a job at McDonald's requires more documentation than Obama's been willing to provide in the face of these unanswered questions.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-04   16:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#37)

He produced a COLB

What Obama provided wouldn't be enough to get Hawaiian citizenship by Hawaiian law as he didn't produce a Certificate of Live Birth.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-04   16:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: war (#38)

And "war" loves communists and thinks illegal aliens are just as good for president as actual Americans. If you think that you calling me a "moonbat" bothers me you are crazier than I thought you were. And no one from Hawaii laid anything to rest and they didn't with that photoshop pos they put on the internet either. That is NOT a long form birth certificate but then you already know that. You are like lucysmom trying to defend the indefensible. As for whether she can post here or not I would assume she can if she chooses to. Not that she would find many "like minded" people here because there don't seem to be many socialists and communists on this board.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   16:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: war (#36)

You are such a MAAAAN...not only did you pick on a girl you did so where she could not respond.

Yowzah what musckles you have...

You are such a MORRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNN. "Pick on a girl"? You make it sound like I actually hit her or something. I posted her own stupid words! If that is "picking on a girl" so be it. As for whether or not she can respond that is not up to me. She can probably register and respond as much as she wants here OR she can bitch and whine all she wants to where she is. But none of that will change her words and her defense of the indefensible (making her a lot like you).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   16:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: James Deffenbach, Rotara (#42)

"Pick on a girl"? You make it sound like I actually hit her or something.

#5. To: James Deffenbach (#0) (Edited)

That dumb b*tch needs a 7 iron wrapped around her pin head.

Rotara posted on 2009-03-03 22:02:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

You disagreed with this poster's sentiments where?

war  posted on  2009-03-04   17:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: James Deffenbach (#41)

YOu have absolutely no station to determine what I love or don't love. I've probably created more wealth in 1 week than you have in a lifetime.

war  posted on  2009-03-04   17:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: war, Rotara (#43)

Now I am responsible for things other people post? And Obama can't be bothered to show his long form birth certificate to serve in the highest elected office the country has? I had to show one to get a freakin' passport! Why is he so much better than other Americans? Or is he just that much better to you clowns who worship at the Obamasiah's altar?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   17:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war (#44)

Who said anything about money? You sound like Badeye bragging about $#it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   17:52:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: war (#44)

I've probably created more wealth in 1 week than you have in a lifetime.

You have probably created and posted more bs in a week than a show dog could jump over in a month. And why are you bragging about what you may, or may not, have done? You know nothing about me other than the fact that I don't much care for the guy you seem so enthralled with, the one who can't be bothered to respond to legitimate questions about where he was actually born. He seems to be a lot like Clinton and thinks that the office of President is his by right.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   17:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: James Deffenbach (#45)

You RESPONDED to that post saying that she was CRIMINALLY INSANE which in and of itself is an insane response.

war  posted on  2009-03-04   18:50:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: James Deffenbach (#47)

I'm not enthralled with Obama. He is what we have which is infinitely better than what we had.

war  posted on  2009-03-04   18:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: war (#48)

You RESPONDED to that post saying that she was CRIMINALLY INSANE which in and of itself is an insane response.

She seems to be way around the bend to me. I call 'em as I see 'em. If you don't like it that's just too bad I guess.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   18:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: war (#49)

I'm not enthralled with Obama. He is what we have which is infinitely better than what we had.

No, he isn't. He's worse. They get worse with every election. People who have their eyes open know that. Only dimwitted, tv-addled ninnies think they get better.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   19:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: James Deffenbach, all (#51) (Edited)

I'm not enthralled with Obama. He is what we have which is infinitely better than what we had.

Now that is some good Klinton-speak right there. He must be a lawyer.

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ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-03-04   19:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: James Deffenbach (#51)

He's worse.

You are insane to believe so. Then again you're a birther which is the greatest Moonbat issue to come down the pike since the Clinton Death List and "We Blowed Up The WTC".

Booosh squandered a path to semi-fiscal responsibility...he was asleep at just about every switch for which he had responsibility. In the history of this republic his only rival for incompetence is Buchanon. You have 0 foundation upon which to base that statement about Obama - especially less than 60 days into his term.

war  posted on  2009-03-04   19:15:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: IndieTX (#52)

Now that is some good Klinton-speak right there. He must be a lawyer.

Not a lawyer, a euridite.

war  posted on  2009-03-04   19:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: James Deffenbach (#50)

She seems to be way around the bend to me.

Said the "man" who believes that a plot was hatched 48 years ago to cover up Obama's true birth and citizenship and continues on to this day at all levels of government...

Excuse me if you rate -273 Kelvin on the credibility scale.

war  posted on  2009-03-04   20:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull, James Deffenbach, bluegrass (#22)

With him saying false flags are coming,

I think he used the term "Reichstag fire."

"False flag" is not in these folks' dictionary.

It's evident that there is a commie-izzy camp and an anti-commie-izzy camp. Weiner belongs to the latter. It seems to me that the latter are really pro-USA both in sentiment and interest. The interest being that the US is the hand that feeds izzy, and that it is not wise to bite it.

I do not trust any of them, however. They're all working for the same clique. I am struck by Weiner's vehemence, and I believe that he may well believe the things he says himself.

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randge  posted on  2009-03-04   20:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: war (#49) (Edited)

I'm not enthralled with Obama. He is what we have which is infinitely better than what we had.

There is no doubt in my mind that if I were allowed five minutes seconds with FmrPrez-noHerbertJr it would end with my being dragged away in less than peaceful repose.

Obama, on the other hand, is much brighter than Shrub, he can work a real crowd.

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Dakmar  posted on  2009-03-04   21:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Dakmar (#57)

he can work a real crowd.

He revs up the rubes.

I find him tedious, especially when he's got his megaphone on telling us what "we've gotta do."

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randge  posted on  2009-03-04   21:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: bluegrass (#31)

That being said, his father's foreign citizenship immediately makes him ineligible to be president as a natural born citizen is someone born on American soil of two citizen parents. Obama doesn't fit the bill and he knows it.

There is no such requirement to be natural born. Children born on US soil of non-citizen immigrants are natural born.

war  posted on  2009-03-04   21:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: randge (#58)

I find him tedious, especially when he's got his megaphone on telling us what "we've gotta do."

The bland face of evil

And I'm here to help!

The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer

Dakmar  posted on  2009-03-04   21:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: randge (#58)

I find him tedious, especially when he's got his megaphone on telling us what "we've gotta do."

Yet you take a guy like Mikey Weiner, a Jew espousing the tenets of National Socialism [borders, language, culture] warning of a Reichstag fire seriously... This same guy claimed that Clinton was going to declare martial law and not leave office...

war  posted on  2009-03-04   21:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: war (#61)

The democrats should do something about that. Yes, blast those infernal democrats, letting this nonsense slide!

The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer

Dakmar  posted on  2009-03-04   21:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: IndieTX (#52)

Now that is some good Klinton-speak right there. He must be a lawyer.

Well yeah, that is some fine Klintonian alright. I guess it is required in his circles.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   21:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: war (#53)

You have 0 foundation upon which to base that statement about Obama - especially less than 60 days into his term.

Yeah, the sob just wants to continue Bush's stupid bailout policies and widen the wars we are involved in. Some hero you have there, ya moron. And the presidents get worse every election. Your hero is not going to break that pattern.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-04   21:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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