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Title: PLEASE DON'T RIOT ...IT'S JUST WHAT THEY WANT (good read)
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URL Source: http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/20744
Published: Mar 9, 2009
Author: David Icke
Post Date: 2009-03-09 11:22:24 by christine
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As I travel around America it is clear that this country is on the brink of an economic catastrophe the like of which it has never seen. And, of course, it is not alone. A similar story can be told around the world.

The foreclosure figures are fantastic as families and others lose their homes through no fault of their own on a scale that, according to current projections, is destined to become a tidal wave.

The credit explosion was orchestrated through Illuminati agents and Satanists like Alan Greenspan, who represents the interests of the Illuminati's Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission and other far more exclusive and sinister secret societies.

Greenspan was the long-time head of the privately-owned 'US central bank', the Federal Reserve. Once his policies had manipulated as much personal and commercial debt as possible the plug was pulled on the system to trigger what is designed to be global economic meltdown.

Greenspan, who led 'the Fed' under Reagan, Father Bush, Clinton and Boy Bush, operates at a deeper level within the Illuminati network than most of their public figures, and I was told by a former Satanist, an unofficial offspring of the Rothschild family, how he remembered Greenspan at sacrifice rituals he attended:

'I can recall the Rockefellers and the Bushes attending rituals, but never having the supremacy to lead them. I still regard them as lackeys and not real brokers of occult power. Except for Alan Greenspan, most of these fellows were camp followers in the occult, primarily for the economic power and prestige. Greenspan, I recall, was a person of tremendous spiritual, occult power and could make the Bushes and the younger Rockefellers cower with just a glance.'

This, then, is the man who was controlling the United States economy from 1987 to 2006 and who, as planned, oversaw the insane economic policies that led to the current global collapse. Go to another level of understanding and you can see that Greenspan and other Illuminati place-men throughout the world knew exactly what they were doing and what the outcome was planned to be.

Zionist Greenspan got out just before the true scale and consequences of his manipulation came to light. It has been left to others, including his Zionist successor at the 'Fed', Ben Shalom Bernanke, to offer the 'solutions' to the problems that Greenspan and his like created. All of these 'solution' people are controlled by the same force that was, and is, behind Greenspan. This is why Obama has named blatant insiders to his 'economic team' who were fundamentally culpable in the very collapse they have been appointed to 'address'.

The Zionists Tim Geitner, Larry Summers, Paul Volcker etc., who are all stalwarts of the same Bilderberg Group-Council on Foreign Relations-Trilateral Commission network as Greenspan, have no intention of finding a 'solution' that will benefit the people of America or anywhere else.

Neither does Obama's Budget Director, the Zionist Peter R. Orszag. It was Orszag who advised the Russian finance ministry at the time when Zionist oligarchs were raping the Russian economy and stealing its resources and he was a financial advisor to the Icelandic central bank just before the Iceland banking system crashed. Great 'choice', Barack.

During the Clinton administration, Orszag worked with Obama's White House Chief of Staff, the ultra-Zionist Rahm Emanuel, on imposing the NAFTA 'free trade' agreement that has cost incredible numbers of American jobs - exactly as planned. Emanuel served in the Israeli army and is the son of a terrorist with the notorious Irgun, one the terror groups which bombed Israel into existence after World War Two. It was Emanuel who said after Obama's election: 'You never let a serious crisis go to waste'.

Emanuel, a cold and vicious piece of work, is directly controlling Obama and the White House in league with senior White House advisor, the Zionist David Axelrod, who ran the puppet 'president's' election campaign and oversees the writing of the speeches that he reads from the teleprompter screens.

Emanuel: Obama's puppeteer

Axelrod: Obama's voice on the teleprompter screens

At least most of 'Obama's' economic place-men are fundamentally connected to the Zionist Robert E. Rubin, the Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton, who oversaw financial deregulation that led ultimately to the current crisis. Rubin recently resigned from Citigroup after encouraging the policies that led the company to the brink of collapse. In January 2009, Rubin was named by Marketwatch as one of the '10 most unethical people in business' and his proteges and close associates are now running the US economy under Obama.

Another massive blow to economic confidence came when the Zionist hedge fund crook, Bernard Madoff, revealed that he'd 'lost' $50 billion of his clients' money. He says he acted alone. No bloody chance. Other financial disasters which have collapsed the markets include American International Group (A.I.G.), the insurance giant headed by the Zionist, Maurice Greenberg. It has just announced losses of $61.7 billion for the final three months of 2008 - the biggest quarterly loss in corporate history.

Greenberg is extremely close to the Zionist Henry Kissinger, one of the Illuminati's most vociferous global manipulators of the last 50 years. Kissinger was appointed chairman of A.I.G.'s International Advisory Board in 1987.

Zionist Kissinger with Zionist Greenberg. Anyone see a common theme building here??

Are all these people just breathtakingly incompetent? No, no, no. Their role for the cabal is to destroy the economy and America in general by, among many other things, triggering the financial crisis and then wasting staggering amounts of borrowed money - trillions of dollars - to ensure that there is no way back.

A US TV ad apparently said that if you spent a million dollars a day every day from the alleged birth of 'Christ' to today you would still not spend as much as Obama is spending in borrowed money in his 'stimulus' package - let alone the other fantastic sums on top of that to 'bail' the banks.

They have worked super-fast, using fear and the Obama hype as their weapons, to throw more petrol on the fire in the full knowledge that this will make matters worse, not better. Bush's 'bail out' of the banks has disappeared from the radar with nothing to show for it and now Bush Mark 11, Mr Change, is fronting up the spending of another three trillion.

The biggest recipient of bail-out money has been Maurice Greenberg's A.I.G, which has been given $180 billion in borrowed money that the American taxpayers, and their children, are now responsible for repaying. Rubin's Citigroup is in for $50 billion of borrowed 'government' money.

The idea is not only to collapse the American economy, but to throw so much money at the problem (the banks mostly) as quickly as possible so that the response options of the government are zero by the time the economy really crashes on the scale that is planned.

The same is being orchestrated around the world, as we see in Britain where the Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, is also hurling borrowed money at the banking system only for the situation to go on getting worse. Brown was Chancellor of the Exchequer, in charge of the country's finances, right through the Blair years when he pursued policies that mirrored those of Greenspan.

Now the man who was a major cause of the banking crisis in the UK is asking us to believe that he is the 'saviour' of the financial system. That's like a guy smashing someone around the head with a baseball bat and then claiming to be a hero for driving the fellah to hospital. But these people have no shame.

The global economic collapse is designed to trigger a stream of 'benefits' to the Illuminati agenda. One, as I have said from the start, is to use this as an excuse to impose a global economic dictatorship controlled by a world central bank. But there are many other 'solutions' and connected 'benefits' that are planned to be exploited and we need to be streetwise to them.

The one I want to emphasise here is the need to stay calm and react peacefully to what is happening. This is not easy when there is so much stress and fear around with regard to the economic present and 'future', but we need to do it all the same or we will walk straight into a massive trap that has been set for us.

Let's get this straight: They want you to riot in response to the unfolding economic catastrophe and we are already seeing people falling for this.

Riots in France over economic conditions

Why would the authorities want people to riot? Readers of my books over the years will see the answer immediately. They want an excuse to bring in a fully-fledged Police State all over the world and people who riot in their desperation (instigated invariably by agent-provocateurs) are just the excuse they are looking for.

Be very, very aware of anyone who starts rioting, or encourages others to do so, amid peaceful demonstrations. Who are they and why are they doing this when it is handing all the aces to the system to impose a Police State? They are either stupid or agents of that State.

Regular readers of my newsletters will recall the one about the UK traffic warden who was suddenly given new cards authorising him to do the work of the police and to enter property without permission. His job was supposed to be just handing out tickets for illegal parking and so on. His boss would not discuss why these new cards were being issued, but a police officer friend explained all to him.

The officer said the government was preparing well ahead of time for a coming 'war', during which they were expecting mass protests and rioting in the streets. The police and the military were going to be so focussed on dealing with this that other uniformed professions, like traffic wardens, private security guards, CCTV operators and many others, were going to be brought forward to do the work normally done by the police.

Soon after the traffic warden approached me, the government announced that his profession was being re-designated 'civil enforcement officers', thus disconnecting them from their sole role of dealing with traffic. A few months later the government announced plans for a new group called 'accredited persons' - private security guards, CCTV operators and many others who would be given authority to do some of the work currently confined to the police.

The officer told the traffic warden about a 'war', and that is planned for sure at some point. But the excuse of the war could also have been a cover-story for those people who were needed to work on the preparations, but were not to know the real reason behind it. That real reason, as we can now see, could include economic rioting after the financial collapse that the Shadow People have long known was coming because they were going to cause it - although, I stress again, a war is also being engineered involving the 'West', China and Russia.

I have been stressing this point about the plan to stir up civil unrest and rioting whenever I can and now the insiders are beginning to put that thought into the public mind. 'There could be riots' is designed to communicate the theme subliminally of 'go out and riot'. It is the simple power of suggestion masquerading as 'concern'.

And who should do just that than Zbigniew Brzezinski, the co-founder of the Illuminati Trilateral Commission and one of the chief mentors and controllers of Barack Obama. I won't call him 'President' Obama any longer until he produces a birth certificate to prove he is eligible for the post. Brzezinski told MSNBC:

'... there's going to be growing conflict between the classes and if people are unemployed and really hurting, hell, there could be even riots!'

No, Mr. Brzezinski, you know there are going to be riots because the network you represent is going to do everything it can to make them happen. More and more we are seeing this theme appearing from representatives of the State. The U.S. Army War College has made the same warnings in a document called Known Unknowns: Unconventional 'Strategic Shocks' in Defense Strategy Development.

It said the military must be prepared for a 'violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States', in the light of 'unforeseen economic collapse'. Unforeseen?? You must be joking. The document talks of 'purposeful domestic resistance', 'pervasive public health emergencies' or 'loss of functioning political and legal order'. It goes on:

'Widespread civil violence ... would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security. An American government and defense establishment lulled into complacency by a long-secure domestic order would be forced to rapidly divest some or most external security commitments in order to address rapidly expanding human insecurity at home.

Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States.'

As the traffic warden, now 'civil enforcement officer', found out, this is precisely what they are planning in the UK and the same will be the case in every country because they are all controlled by a world-wide web orchestrating a global agenda. The War College document said that the Department of Defense would be the 'enabling hub' for the 'continuity of political authority in a multi-state or nationwide civil conflict or disturbance'.

Put that through the Orwellian Translation Unit and you get 'the military will control the country'. This has all been planned for a long, long time as I and others have been warning all these years, and the 'hostile groups' the document talks about will be anyone who is challenging the political/military dictatorship in any way, even verbally.

In the light of this, you won't be surprised to know that the US military is currently seeking to spend another $6 million on 'riot equipment'.

Dennis C. Blair, Obama's Director of National Intelligence and Trilateral Commission member, has also said that the economic crisis could create civil unrest in the United States and around the world. He said the crisis was 'regime-threatening' if it continued over one or two years and this manufactured crisis is designed to be much bigger and longer than that. In the simple language that he seems to find so hard to summon, Blair says that there is a greater chance of war during economic turmoil and there's no doubt they have just that planned in the wake of what is happening now.

Other establishment figures who have warned of unrest and rioting include the heads of the World Trade Organisation and the International Monetary Fund, both Illuminati organisations to their core, and anyone who heads them will be, by definition, gofers for the cabal.

In the UK, yet again confirming the validity of the traffic warden story, the head of the police branch dealing in public order has warned of a possible 'Summer of Rage' over rising unemployment and the economic crash. Superintendent David Hartshorn of London's Metropolitan Police said that 'known activists' were planning to exploit the situation to mount mass protests and he pointed to the G20 Summit in London in April as a likely target, along with banks.

The London Sunday Express has also reported that UK police and 'security' services are preparing to deal with rioting and 'the chilling prospect of soldiers being drafted on to the streets has not been discounted ...'

Riots in Greece

Mass protests around the world are no longer simply predictions because they are already happening and, with the global economy yet to collapse on anything like the scale it is intended to, we have seen nothing yet. Some 120,000 people demonstrated in Dublin over the handling of the economic crisis in Ireland, a million protestors have been on the streets in France, UK oil refinery and power station workers launched a series of strikes in protest at the use of foreign workers, and the riots across Greece late last year were partly economic in nature.

Albert Pike

I can encapsulate what is going on here with part of a letter alleged to have been sent in 1871 by Albert Pike, a Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in America, to Giuseppe Mazzini, the Illuminati 'revolutionary' in Italy. In this letter, Pike is said to have detailed the background to three world wars the Illuminati was planning to bring about their global dictatorship. The first two happened as he predicted and this is what he said about the third:

'The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion ...

... We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.'

Click here for more background ...

Many dismiss the letter as a myth, but in the context I am using it that doesn't matter. What it says is what is planned - an economic and social catastrophe in which the people turn on themselves in their engineered desperation and all morality is submerged in a mass battle for perceived survival.

The term 'nihilism', used in the Pike letter, has this dictionary definition:

* Rejection of all distinctions in moral or religious value and a willingness to repudiate all previous theories of morality or religious belief.

* The belief that destruction of existing political or social institutions is necessary for future improvement.

That pretty much sums it up, really, and this is why they want people to riot all over the world to destroy the existing order, which, yes, the Illuminati created, but they now seek to replace that with the next stage of their tyranny - total global control. This means that national governments and nation states must be destroyed to allow a world government to assume its dictatorship.

Look at that definition of 'nihilism' again in the light of this: 'The belief that destruction of existing political or social institutions is necessary for future improvement.'

'Rioter' and police dealing with the 'rioter' - all wearing the same police-issue boots. Just a coincidence, nothing to worry about.

Already waiting in the wings are the agent provocateurs and the useful idiots primed to start the riots and civil unrest that the idiots believe to be challenging the existing order. But the existing order was created by the same network of Illuminati families that are seeking to create the 'new order', the New World Order, which is planned to emerge from the turmoil and chaos they are now engineering.

To achieve this, as always, they need our cooperation and let no-one be in any doubt that those who choose to riot and loot in response to what is happening, and encourage others to riot and loot, are walking straight into the trap that has been laid for them. The government and military agent provocateurs will know that, the useful idiots will not, but it is time they did.

I have met few more concrete-minded or naive people than those that are termed the extreme end of the political 'Left'. They have been played like a violin for hundreds of years to change the world in the image of the Illuminati blueprint in violent revolutions to bring down the established order. Now they are being gathered again to complete the journey to global tyranny and provide the violence and chaos that is designed to open the way to a world government, world army, world central bank, world electronic currency and a microchipped population connected to the global positioning satellite system, or GPS, among many other technologies of surveillance and control.

The riots and looting they want to see, the chaos, will be met with the installation of a Police State with curfews, jail without trial, the military on the streets, and the activation of the concentration camps for 'dissidents' that we have long warned about. They are officially called 'military installations', run by FEMA, the deeply-sinister Federal Emergency Management Agency, and it is no coincidence, of course, that a bill numbered H.R. 645 is passing through Washington 'to direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations'. No, concentration camps, and other countries will have them prepared also.

Look at what that War College document said: 'Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States.' Might? It's a certainty because that's the plan and all the laws are in place to allow them to do it. They have been passed by governments around the world as 'anti-terror' legislation, but they use the terms 'terror' and 'terrorist' in such a non-specific way that all these laws can be applied to the entire population of the country that the 'laws' were supposed to protect according to their advocates.

It was all a gigantic con, as some of us tired of pointing out. It had nothing to do with terrorists who are alleged to plant bombs and so on. All these laws have been put into place with the specific goal of controlling the mass of the people through a Police State when they triggered an economic collapse, together with new wars.

Add to all this a stream of presidential executive orders signed by successive presidents without oversight by either the House of Representatives or the Senate. These are unconstitutional and make the president a virtual dictator. Click here to see the powers that the State can activate, thanks to these orders, when martial law is declared.

This is why Obama's Zionist Svengali, the White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, is seeking to have gun ownership curtailed - to make the military takeover easier. Meantime, more people are seeking to be armed and requests for concealed weapon permits in Florida alone are up 42 per cent in 45 days with the consequences of the economic turmoil in mind.

The military on the streets of Iraq. How long before the same is seen on the streets of America and elsewhere?

The only way to stop all this is not to react as they want us to, with violence and hostility to both the State and each other. How many violent revolutions have led to just another tyranny, official or unofficial, to replace the one that fell? It has to be so because what is destroyed by violence will be replaced by the same energy. As I have said in my books, what you fight, you become.

John Lennon put it perfectly when he sang:

You say you want a revolution Well, you know We all want to change the world You tell me that it's evolution Well, you know We all want to change the world But when you talk about destruction Don't you know that you can count me out ...

... You say you got a real solution Well, you know We'd all love to see the plan You ask me for a contribution Well, you know We're doing what we can But when you want money for people with minds that hate All I can tell is brother you have to wait

Revolution (1968) ... click here to watch ...

Martin Luther King also put it brilliantly when he said of rioting:

'The limitation of riots, moral questions aside, is that they cannot win and their participants know it. Hence, rioting is not revolutionary but reactionary because it invites defeat. It involves an emotional catharsis, but it must be followed by a sense of futility.'

Those are the words of a revolutionary who succeeded through peaceful non-cooperation. Yes, they killed him, but what he created through non-violence and determination went forth to end segregation. Physical life does not matter when compared with what is right, for we are all eternal Conciousness having an illusory experience and the greatest illusion is death.

I would much rather die 'early' doing what I knew to be right than to eek out a few more illusory years as a slave to a tyranny.

But there is no need even for that to bring an end to this nonsense. There are billions of people being enslaved and a comparative handful doing the enslaving. Er, I think I see a way out of this.

We need to come together in mutual support, love, kindness and empathy. We need to put aside the manufactured fault-lines that divide us - religion, politics, race, culture and income bracket. That is not to say people have to reject their beliefs, just don't let them be weapons of division.

We are all in this together and we need to meet the challenge together, not steal from each other, loot or riot, or look the other way because something happening to someone else is 'not my problem'. They are not seeking to enslave Muslims, Jews, black people, or white middle class Americans and so on. They are seeking to do it to all of us and they are picking off different groups one by one, just like the Nazis did in Germany. Remember these famous words because they are so applicable now:

First they came for the Jews and I was not a Jew so I did nothing. Then they came for the communists and I was not a communist so I did nothing. Then they came for the trade unionists and I was not a trade unionist so I did nothing. Then they came for me and there was no-one left to speak out for me.

Let us unite behind that which affects everyone - the loss of our most basic freedoms. And if this is being planned now, what kind of world are our children and grandchildren going to live in? Can you live with that thought while doing nothing or rioting as the authorities want? I can't.

We need to start getting organised in communities and groups to support each other and stop cooperating with the system - not to fight it. The system can only exist with our cooperation and acquiesce. We are holding it together. They have their men and women of violence, called the military and 'Swat' teams, to deal with violent resistance.

But their worst nightmare is our non-cooperation - the refusal to pay taxes; refusal to leave homes when banks foreclose on them; refusal to 'comply' with our own enslavement in any form. The system couldn't cope if this was done on a mass scale. And that's the point: to do this we need to do it en-masse and those not immediately affected need to support those who are.

Instead of compliance, we need the non-comply-dance of people who beat to a different drum and will not comply with what is unfair, unjust, or targets their freedom and the freedom of others. This approach does not refuse to comply in a spirit of hostility, rage or violence, but with love, joy and laughter - and an unbreakable determination not to cooperate with their own enslavement.

We need a mass refusal join the military, especially if they try to introduce the Draft; a refusal to do the compulsory 'community service' for young people that Obama's controllers want to introduce (as does the UK government); and a refusal to join, or accept the legitimacy of, Obama's planned civilian security force, which is nothing more than a scam to get the people to police the people on behalf of the Elite in the midst of the economic collapse and war.

We need to start getting together local currency schemes that can operate outside the system and, yes, people should also have mass protests if they choose, so long as they are peaceful. But they need to be part of the campaign of non-violent, non-cooperation, not the focus of it.

How many mass protests have there been over the years around the world and yet everything just goes on as before, be it war or globalisation. We need to stop posturing and then heading for the bar to feel good about ourselves and start doing what will actually make a difference.

Mass protests can ease frustration - steam whistles as I call them - but what good do most of them do? Mass non-cooperation with the system is far more effective.

The protests need to be targeted at non-cooperation, refusing to accept laws that ban assembly by massive numbers turning up; surrounding the homes of neighbours when the bank bailiffs come to put them on the street; and so filling the locations of government and finance with masses of people that the system cannot function. Workers who provide essential services to government, police and financial institutions etc., can refuse to do so until Orwellian laws and financial injustice are removed. In this way the perpetrators are affected, not the mass of the people, as with all-out strikes.

And all of this needs to be good humoured and strictly peaceful.

I would say this also to those in uniform. You may think you have power, but you are just pawns in the game like anyone else. You don't have the power, your uniform does, because that is an extension of the State. Those inside are just there to animate the uniform and do the bidding of those it represents. When you are useful to the cabal they'll praise you and when you are surplus to their requirements as part of the bigger agenda they'll show you the door.

You have children and grandchildren, too, who will have to live in the world you are policing into existence by 'following orders' and believing the manipulative nonsense fed to you by governments and cabal 'training' fronts like the UK-based Common Purpose. Wake up from the trance and stop building a Police State for your own children and grandchildren - and everyone else. Think about the consequences for those you love of what you are doing - and stop doing it.

More than anything, we all need to free our minds and become conscious. From that, everything else will come, including the intuition, inspiration and knowing that will guide us on how most effectively to deal with what we face.

If there are many things you would like to do in a room, but the room is dark and you can't see, what is the fundamental first step to anything else happening? You have to turn on the light and then all the rest becomes possible. Without that you are thrashing around in the dark and falling over the furniture.

That is what 'humans' are doing today and have been for so long. They have been manipulated to believe they are their bodies and their names when those are just the experiences of who they truly are - eternal Consciousness. As the great American comedian, Bill Hicks, said:

'... all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.'

The divisions between us are illusory to allow a certain kind of experience, but these illusions have been exploited mercilessly to divide and rule us.

ENOUGH!

When we awaken to the truth of who we are the world looks very different and so do the challenges that are put before us - or we put before ourselves. Move your point of observation and everything changes. Try it. Try ceasing to identify who you are with your body, your name and the reflection in the mirror. Try seeing those things as experiences and not who you are. Try observing your life and the world from the perception of the real you - eternal Conciousness, All That Is, Has Been and Ever Can Be in our illusion called 'time'.

Eternal Conscious in awareness of itself doesn't riot; it is not violent and it doesn't loot. But nor does it ever do, or accept for itself and others, what is not fair, just, loving and kind. Crucially, Consciousness is without fear. When we operate on that level then we can truly claim to be Conscious and not trapped in the illusion called Mind. As Albert Einstein said: 'You cannot solve problems with the same level of consciousness that created them.'

John Lennon also made this key point in Revolution about what needs to happen to really make a difference. We need to free our minds and become Conscious:

You say you'll change the constitution Well, you know We all want to change your head You tell me it's the institution Well, you know You better free you mind instead But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow

We are now fast heading for the eye of the storm that has been planned for so long to enslave the global population in a centralised tyranny. But we don't have to accept it or acquiesce to it, meekly looking on as the walls of control close in by the day.

But that is what is happening and it has to stop. For everyone's sake, it has to stop.

We can come together, we MUST come together, putting aside the fault-lines of race, religion, culture and income bracket. These are just illusory labels through which we are divided and therefore ruled. Believe in them if you wish, and enjoy them if they make you happy, but don't let them divide us any longer.

We need to come together in mutual support at this time as those with sick minds and closed hearts are poised to throw everything at us to complete their agenda for total control. Whether their insanity prevails is not in their hands, but in ours. It is we who have the power if only we would choose to use it.

We are One Consciousness deluded into thinking we are 'little me'. When we realise that we are all One - and act upon that with courage, love, kindness, peace and empathy for all who need support - the walls of oppression must fall.

But sitting on your arse hoping it will all go away is no longer an option.

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#21. To: IndieTX (#19)

I see several things in this article that bother me, and since I do not know who the author is or his views, it's easier to read it in an unbiased way. It strikes me as...disinformational..especially the part about rioting. The author wants you to assume that his two choices are the only two choices.

Excellent point, and good catch. As a student of logic I should have spotted that.

Black and White Fallacy aka False Dilemma: Black and White Fallacy aka False Dilemma

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-09   15:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: IndieTX (#19)

Look up Ickes' history. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke is a good start.

He's not what he appears to be, IMO.

Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-09   15:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: PSUSA (#22)

For one thing, f**k Wiki. Straight to hell. They are a tool of the enemy.

Secondly, we always have to use discernment - chew the fish and spit out the bones.

Icke has been of great benefit to the defeat of 'them' imo. Everyone has something that someone can use to try and discredit them.

Who knows - maybe every single American in forums like these are really enemy within operatives. ;-)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-09   15:19:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Rotara (#23)

I just have an "issue" with trusting people. It comes from being too gullible in the past. I might have gone from 1 extreme to the other.

But you make a good point. Alex Jones has also said things I disagree with, but he's done a lot of good work too. And in fairness to him, in the past he said he has never seen a "reptilian", just that other people claim to have seen them.

WHat I don't buy is the big conspiracy theory regarding bloodlines of some "illuminati" being responsible for the mess we are in. There is, IMO, a big difference between that, and inheritance of money thru someones death. If you're born with a silver spoon in your mouth, chances are really good that you will grow up to be a real dickhead. Like Paul said, it's the love of money that is the root of all evil.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-09   15:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Rotara (#23)

For one thing, f**k Wiki. Straight to hell. They are a tool of the enemy.

Have you seen the TV ads where the founder talks about Wiki being a counter to sensorship? Cracks me up every time I see it.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-03-09   15:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: PSUSA (#24) (Edited)

Have you ever studied the Illumunists' blood lines ?

The Eurotrash Globalists have always treasured their blood lines.

Aside from that though, we know who the enemy is, we've documented their crimes against America (and the whole people of the world) and it's time to stop them in their tracks and bring justice to them.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-09   15:40:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Rotara (#26)

I've looked into it. And for all I know, you and Icke etc could be right. I'm undecided about it all.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-09   15:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: PSUSA (#27)

The bottom line is it doesn't matter.

Icke can dream all he wants - this won't be an orchestrated 'color revolution' unless you want to call it the "Blood Red Revolution".

The CFR has to be crushed and it will be the fight of everyone's lives.

Or we might just rout them. ;-)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-09   15:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: PSUSA (#27)

Go to infowars.com right now if you can and listen to the rebroadcast of the AJS.

He critiques the Illuminists' new-NWO foreshadowing movie.

The Watchmen


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-09   16:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Original_Intent (#11)

Exactly, and that is all an armed revolt in the current environment would be.

Ok! I succumb to your way of thinking. I respectfully request that you stop paying taxes immediately. Tell the fed govt that you are not going to pay any more taxes until they restore the laws of the land spelled out in our Constitution. Now having told them this, you can expect christine,PSUSA, me and others to back you up by calling our congress critter telling him/her you are right. Then standby for what happens next.

Your sorry ass, and I do mean sorry ass will be carted off to a fed pen and all your property will be forefitted to the scoundrels we call "our govt". They have debliterly encroached on our liberties taking them away piecemeal. We have been so God damned afraid and dumbed down and fed the bullshit from our two wings of our one party, we don't know up from down. One poster on here has been sending us hints for a long time and we have been too distracted to listen to him. That be Jethro Tull. I don't always agree with him but this gentleman reminds me of a fellow in our country's past. And that fellow was named Patrick Henry.

I get so frigging mad when I hear you cowards clamouring that we can't have the cake and eat it too. My response is that if we can't eat the cake, we might as well not have it. Enough is enough. If you haven't had enough of their encroaching tyranny, keep your tratiorist mouth shut and go on back over to freerepublic where they tell you how good you have it and what to say and think.

I'm going to be kind to you O.I.. I'm only going to treat you with verbal restraint and call you a pussy instead of the cunt you really are. When they have taken our last measure of freedom, taxed us into complete poverty, we can all bow before them and ask them is there anything else we can do to make them happy.But we must never riot or fight back with anything stronger than a wet noodle!

LACUMO  posted on  2009-03-09   19:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: PSUSA, All (#9)

But the problem with riots is that the rage is unfocused.

Oh, I get it. There is nothing wrong with shooting people as long as you are shooting the right people. We need to draw a line in the sand and do whatever it takes to those who cross or attempt to cross that line.

Just to show you how wimpish and dumbed down we have become, there are approximately 30 comments on this thread and over 170 people who have visited this thread who are afraid to speak up for their freedom and liberty. Why is that? Most of those 170 people must be plain cowards or are satisfied with what has happened in our country and happened to us.

Yeah, we need to focus on the tyrants and kick their asses to kingdom come, not sit back and bake cookies for them and tell them how much we appreciate all they do for us.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-03-09   19:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: LACUMO, christine, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, bluegrass, all (#30)

You can rant and pout all you want. You can even hold your breath until you turn blue, and it still does not change the reality. At this moment in time all armed action will get you is dead along with anyone foolish enough to follow your lead and likely a good many innocents. It would provide pretext for a police state crack down and would be counter productive.

Neither do I support Icke's reccomendations as you are quite right in that all that would get you is 3 squares and flop in a little cage.

We still have other options.

However, I do have to wonder if you are just an unthinking hothead or a provocateur?

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-10   2:01:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Original_Intent, LACUMO, christine, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, bluegrass, all (#32)

At this moment in time all armed action will get you is dead along with anyone foolish enough to follow your lead and likely a good many innocents. It would provide pretext for a police state crack down and would be counter productive.

I totally agree.

Don't fall into their trap.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-10   2:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: LACUMO (#8)

Blather!

WE have sat on our hands too damned long and have become soft and whimpish. They have absolutely no fear of us.

You may be wrong.

You are right, they do not fear us. Rioting is not the answer, an organized response is. Rioting is too chaotic accomplishing nothing of value. An organized strike at the culprits of 9/11 and the destruction of the American manufacturing base are. Bankers (parasites) have had it easy for way too long. It is time to show the Federal Reserve we have had enough.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-03-10   2:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: PSUSA, bluegrass, christine, TwentyTwelve, Rotara, Wudidiz, all (#22)

Look up Ickes' history. ...

He's not what he appears to be, IMO.

I would agree that Icke is most likely a PsyOp and a disinformation outlet whose function is to "kookify" the resistance to the tyranny unfolding. However, that does not provide grounds for staging a provocation that will get a lot of people killed to no net positive effect.

Were I going to take armed action it would be to start staging hits on the top members of the NWO/Globalists/Illuminists/Banksters. However, that will prove unnecessary as they are already self destructing. Unfortunately, at this point in time, I don't see any course of action that will prevent a lot of needless deaths. The most we can do is minimize it by not giving them an excuse for a crackdown. Their moment has come and passed. Too many people are now alert and aware and there are more every day. At this point the necessity is to wage war with information. DVDs more than the Internet are now the vehicle to get duplicated and delivered.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-10   2:15:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent, PSUSA, bluegrass, christine, TwentyTwelve, Rotara, Wudidiz, all (#35) (Edited)

DVDs more than the Internet are now the vehicle to get duplicated and delivered.

DVDs are very effective.

Just make sure that they are good quality.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-10   2:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TwentyTwelve (#36)

Agreed - a grainy video with poor sound will detract from the message.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-10   2:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Rotara (#23)

Who knows - maybe every single American in forums like these are really enemy within operatives. ;-)

Yeah, we are all each others enemies. We are all competing for the limited food, clean air, clean water, and nice cars. There are only so much resources to go around, so we must do battle to see who gets the toys and necessities. ;)

That of course is just what the elite want you to believe. We have more than enough resources to go around. The elite are just hogging them all trying to make it appear there is a shortage. While in reality we have abundant resources for now and the future even with over 20 times our current population. The only true enemy we have is ourselves. Stop the "I can't" attitude and start the "I can" attitude and the elite will be begging for mercy.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-03-10   2:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#0)

It's unlikely that the current economic stalemate is the result of any deliberate conspiracy to destroy current societal arrangements; more likely it's the result of politicians having no long range foresight, being inept, and in America being subverted by the Israeli lobby to serve Israel's interests to the point of distraction plus having too many election-tag-along flunkies trying to run government, using always-faulty rules and regulations rather than commonsense. Icke is suspect in that while he mentions Zionists he neglects to emphasize that the current financial breakdown is occurring in a sector dominated by associates of Organized Jewry whose business decisions have the hallmarks of ineptitude, poor judgment, greed, crookedness and a total lack of concern for the welfare of those for whom they were self-appointed stewards.

It's not likely that much in the way of uprisings will develop until credible leaders with workable alternatives emerge. With so many industries idled, top executives of the best-run companies like Exxon or Chevron, etc., may be "forced" to take over government from the incompetents, crooks and subversives, who by neglecting long-range planning have gotten us into the current SNAFU. If jobs cannot be created by massive projects like hydro and other alternative energy development, an Alaska gas pipeline, water diversions to drought areas, weather modification measures and shifts to electric and/or natural gas-powered cars then a shift to a four-day work week seems like the most logical way to go to "redistribute" income fairly.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2009-03-10   4:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Tatarewicz (#39) (Edited)

It's unlikely that the current economic stalemate is the result of any deliberate conspiracy to destroy current societal arrangements; more likely it's the result of politicians having no long range foresight, being inept, and in America being subverted by the Israeli lobby to serve Israel's interests to the point of distraction plus having too many election-tag-along flunkies trying to run government, using always-faulty rules and regulations rather than commonsense

Making it more profitable to have factories located overseas than to have them here is deliberate. Letting huge numbers of so called "skilled" workers in on "temporary" work visas to do jobs that Americans, as they say, "can't do", is also deliberate. Leaving the borders wide open is also deliberate. Keeping the truth of 9/11 from being broadcast by the MSM, also deliberate. Blowing up the WTC towers, deliberate. Taking our freedoms away because of some non-existent Muslim terrorists, deliberate. Politicians are not inept, they only appear that way becasue they do not represent the American people as they claim they do.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-03-10   5:03:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: LACUMO (#31)

Consider the possibility that there are some games where the only way to win is to not play.

I think one of the single biggest problems our society has is that we're all far too disconnected from our neighbors, our communities, our families and our deepest needs. We've been bamboozled and lied to and scammed, separated from what we really need and then given feeble substitutes instead. Picture an ox harnessed to a cart, with a carrot dangled in front of it to make it pull the cart, endlessly distracted from the lush grass in the meadows it's walking through. If the ox were to realize the carrot is a lie, that it's never going to get the carrot, and that all it needs to do is to stop chasing the carrot and instead lean down and eat the grass at its feet instead, suddenly the cart stops moving and the parasites riding the cart find themselves going nowhere fast. The ox does not need the cart, the cart needs the ox.

By the same token, we're all deeply conditioned and programmed to think that we need material symbols of success and status to have any place in this society. When enough people buy into that conditioning, it creates its own reality, and soon we're all frantically running ourselves into the ground desperately trying to "get ahead", and for what? A heart attack at 50? A big empty house? An expensive luxury car that's less reliable than a standard Honda sedan?

Some games can only be won by choosing to not play them. When the neighborhood "big kids" with the bicycles and skateboards and fancy toys try to goad younger children into doing something stupid by saying "if you don't, you're a chicken!", the grown-ups watching it shake their heads and laugh at the blatant manipulations of the older bullies. Then those very same adults go inside, set their cheap alarm clocks so they can wake up every morning at 5:30 and go to work at some meaningless job they hate, and work themselves into an early grave because if they don't then the "big kids" in our society who own the media and the corporations and the government will call them a "loser" or a "slacker" or some other, more vulgar equivalent.

Ultimately, it's all a scam, a sham, a fraud and a lie.

Consider how much damage could be done to this fraudulent empire if enough of the serfs decided to quit playing by the rules of the elites, and decided to live their lives on their own terms, seeking only to make enough of a living to get by, giving up on the notion of "getting ahead" (which has proven to be a mirage, an illusion and a lie for the vast majority of American serfdom) and instead started working towards being able to live a simple, productive life outside of the mainstream concepts of "success" and "achievement".

As George Carlin so eloquently pointed out, America is owned by an elite club of insiders, it's a big club, and you're not in it. They own the whole country, and everything and everyone in it. We're not citizens, we're property, and everyone knows it. So why play their game? Why live on their terms? Why continue to be a good little cog in their infernal machine? Why keep chasing that carrot that we never, ever get? Especially when we find out that the very few who do get that carrot quickly find out that it's old and rubbery and half-rotten and tastes like warmed-over crap and makes you feel sick when you eat it. Why sacrifice our lives and our health and our environment and our families and our communities and our sanity in the pursuit of a lie? Just because some well-connected fat cat insiders told us that we should want that? Do you think they really care about us? Or do they just want us to keep chasing after that carrot so they can keep riding the cart?

Some games can only be won by choosing not to play them...

Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2009-03-10   5:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Elliott Jackalope (#41)

...we're all deeply conditioned and programmed to think that we need material symbols of success and status...

Could be due to the tactics used by parents with children to get them motivated.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2009-03-10   7:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#32)

Thanks for the ping. I will have to read this later today, no time this morning.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-10   7:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent, LACUMO, All (#35)

However, that does not provide grounds for staging a provocation that will get a lot of people killed to no net positive effect.

I don't recall anyone advocating staging a provocation. Perhaps I missed it?

WE are the ones being provoked.

"The most we can do is minimize it by not giving them an excuse for a crackdown."

I disagree, let them crack down. Knock yourselves out, crack down all you want. Let's get the ball rolling! Cut out all the f'n pretenses and show the sheep what the .gov maggots are really like!

You write about "needless deaths"? How many "needless deaths" did we have in our first revolution? Shit, I count myself in with the "needless deaths" numbers, and I dont care. BFD! No one lives forever. But the thought of what kind of country the kids face makes me want to vomit! I dont want THEM to have to do it. They dont deserve this.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-10   8:15:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: noone222 (#3)

And, he may be more accurate regarding the LIZARDS !!!!!

I'm not one to promote icke and have little interest in his lizard people theories., if for no other reason, because they would instantly discredit anyone who promotes them. However, the so-called 'elite' are satanists and was not satan a serpent? so from a Christian perspective, diabolical possession and lizard-appearance is certainly possible.

if you ever go to youtube type in reptilian politician. there are some news clips (various pols darting out their tongues snd shifty eyes, etc) that will have you laughing so hard you will cry.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
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Artisan  posted on  2009-03-10   8:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Elliott Jackalope (#41)

great post. I agree 100%.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-03-10   8:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: farmfriend, Rotara (#25)

Just be aware that colleges/universities all say "Don't Use Wiki" in scholarly research. Every semester literally every class instructor warns against Wiki and points out university-level, peer-reviewed databases available through the library.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-03-10   10:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: RickyJ, Rotara (#38)

Stop the "I can't" attitude and start the "I can" attitude and the elite will be begging for mercy.

Dead on. The elites will be defeated but it requires first the determination, and recognition, that "we the people" are in fact more powerful than they are.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-10   11:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: X-15, Rotara (#47)

Doesn't surprise me. The Global warming sections are watched by known warmers who won't allow the other side of the story. They couldn't be more biased if Hansen or Gore were doing it.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-03-10   11:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Elliott Jackalope (#41)

Good post. I don't agree with all the specific details but do in principle. Materialism is a dead end. Things are not what give meaning to life. The are just "things". I wish I had time for a longer reply but don't.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-10   11:54:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Original_Intent, ALL (#50)

Imagine if the founding fathers did not 'riot.

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-10   12:11:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Elliott Jackalope (#41)

Some games can only be won by choosing not to play them...

Outstanding post, and thoughts for us. Thanks.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-03-10   12:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Elliott Jackalope (#41)

I agree with the rest. THat is a great post.

But don't think for one second that the PTB will just give up on trying to enslave you. What you posted, IMO, is a great start, but that wont stop bad things from happening when they see the power slipping from their grasp. They will then be more dangerous than ever.

NO ONE ever gives up power. They constantly accumulate it. If they have to beat, or murder you, to keep it, they will.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-10   12:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Itistoolate, PSUSA, LACUMO, Original_Intent, Elliott Jackalope, Rotara, IndieTx, ALL (#51)

here's the difference. the Founders/Revolutionists were fighting an enemy without. we're fighting an enemy within--not to mention the logistics in terms of size of the country and technology between then and now. the political leaders have had 200+ years to build their arsenal of weaponry against us. a revolution now would have to be fought in a totally different manner--unless at some point we were able to rally and amass 100s of millions to march on washington ala V for Vendetta.

christine  posted on  2009-03-10   13:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: christine, Itistoolate, PSUSA, LACUMO, Original_Intent, Elliott Jackalope, Rotara, IndieTx (#54)

here's the difference. the Founders/Revolutionists were fighting an enemy without. we're fighting an enemy within--not to mention the logistics in terms of size of the country and technology between then and now. the political leaders have had 200+ years to build their arsenal of weaponry against us. a revolution now would have to be fought in a totally different manner--unless at some point we were able to rally and amass 100s of millions to march on washington ala V for Vendetta.

Hopefully we can awaken some of the sheeple asap.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-10   13:07:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: christine (#54)

A+

Cynicom  posted on  2009-03-10   13:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Cynicom (#56)

thank you, Cyni.

christine  posted on  2009-03-10   13:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Elliott Jackalope, All (#41)

Some games can only be won by choosing not to play them...

Well mr. disconnected from the game. When is the last time you publically informed the fed governmentor any government that you refuse to play their game? Ed and Elaine Brown refused and all us big mouthed chicken livered bastards only gave lip service to the tyranny the Brown's received. Or, how about the Waco atrocity or Ruby Ridge. Then add the Murrah Building and the World Trade Center murders . Not too many of us did one God Damned thing for the victims.

There are so many on this forum that are no better than the dumbed down neocon cons over on freakerville. Talk is cheap. So far many of you only run your mouths and would genuflect and kiss the hand of our government oppressors when they come to take our guns, lock us up, or do whatever they want to do to us. I simply know you are no better than the agents of a government out to destroy this country and enslave us as part of the plan. I can hear them laughing behind our backs knowing full well we are a bunch of cowards. They really have already won the game. You don't need to participate, even withdraw, but without standing tall and putting your lives and fortunes on the line, we have already handed them the victory.

You know what I believe? Those of you who advocate treating them with kid gloves are nothing but God Damned Cowards and you deserve what is coming our way. I hpe you learn to love it! This bullshit of having marches on weekends when the scum is already home on the golf course is laughable. On the otherhand, a march of a couple million on a workday and sourrounding their offices would be much better. That won't happen because so many of you got to work so you got money for that overpriced house, the lexus, Mercedes, and that big yacht tied up at your private dock.

You can reply as much as you want and rant about being cautious,meek, and a passifist and refuse to play their game. Whether you realize it or not, YOU are a player and they love you for it.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-03-10   13:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: christine, All (#54)

here's the difference. the Founders/Revolutionists were fighting an enemy without. we're fighting an enemy within--

I disagree. The british were here. So were the loyalists. THere is, IMO, no difference. Todays sheeple are yesterdays loyalists and yesterdays british are todays PTB.

not to mention the logistics in terms of size of the country and technology between then and now. the political leaders have had 200+ years to build their arsenal of weaponry against us.

It's the sheer size of this country that is in our favor. It is totally uncontrollable for the PTB and they know it.

They think they have the tools they need, and to a certain extent I suppose these weapons will intimidate certain people. The police state is coming because they know how tenuous their position really is. Just don't be intimidated by it and it loses it's power over the people.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-10   14:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: RickyJ (#34)

You are right, they do not fear us. Rioting is not the answer, an organized response is. Rioting is too chaotic accomplishing nothing of value. An organized strike at the culprits of 9/11 and the destruction of the American manufacturing base are. Bankers (parasites) have had it easy for way too long. It is time to show the Federal Reserve we have had enough.

I disagree with one portion of your statement. While I believe the talk of rioting in conjunction with a revolution to restore our rightfull government is foolish and unproductive simply because if you are a true Patriot and your goals are to restore our Republic we would have to rebuild everything that was destroyed.

However the scum that would selfishly loot and destroy for no purpose could be an excellent diversion so the Patriots can do what needs to be done.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-03-10   14:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Elliott Jackalope (#41)

Consider the possibility that there are some games where the only way to win is to not play.

Very good points, all valid. Now how do we convince the rest of those folks?

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-03-10   14:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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