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Title: ATTENTION; MAJOR ANNOUCEMENT FOR PATRIOTS. IT'S TIME TO UNITE
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Published: Mar 14, 2009
Author: WE THE PEOPLE
Post Date: 2009-03-14 19:42:42 by MING THE MERCILESS
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IT'S TIME TO UNITE RHE SPLINTERED GROUPS OUT THERE AND ORGANIZE BEFORE IT'S TO LATE!
WE THE PEOPLE IS FORMING A CONTINENTAL CONGRESS JUST LIKE OUR FORE FATHERS DID IN 1775.
CHECK OUT THE LINKS BELOW AND JOIN WE THE PEOPLE
GROUPS ARE FORMING NEAR YOU. HELP ELECT DELEGATES FROM EVERY STATE OF THE UNION.
THIS IS IT PEOPLE, WE FINALLY HAVE A RALLYING POINT!
[link to www.wethepeoplefoundation.org]
[link to www.wethepeoplefoundation.org]
[link to www.freedom-force.org]
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#18. To: Esso (#17)
Teasing again, I see.

Always!
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
farmfriend posted on 2009-03-14 23:25:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#0)
At this point I'd be a bit wary of joining any such group, as it could well be a cointelpro project collecting names of "domestic terrorists" who are to be given closer scrutiny, or worse.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-14 23:39:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: LACUMO, farmfriend, all (#4)
Duh!

just as I thought and have said many many times. Amerikans are stupid and cowardly and afraid.

Ohhh we got us an internet tough guy here! Hey tough guy, where are the tombstones of those you've killed in your battle to free the American people from their chains? Come on hero, surely you've left dead politicians and beauracrats all over the nation since you're such a brave patriot.
LOL!
Listen folks, it's a known fact that government agents have infiltrated all militia movements and patriot groups and attempt to egg them on into breaking the law. Knowing that, there is no reason to believe these same agencies do not have people posing as "patriots" on sites like this trying to incite people into saying things that they can then present to a judge to justify spying on them. Do not be goaded by assholes like LACUMO. Even if he's not a government enforcer, he's not doing anything more than anyone else to stop what's happening in this country. You don't have to prove anything to him. Just continue with whatever plans you have (if any) and if I may be so bold as to recommend becoming familiar with the concepts of leaderless resistance just in case the time actually comes when they can be put to use.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
F.A. Hayek Fan posted on 2009-03-14 23:49:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#0)
Patriots have done everything to avoid and prevent a Con Con, since it will only be used by Globalists to gut what is left of the US Constitution. Hasn't 'we the people' got the word? Or maybe that's the goal.
Note: Don't start something you can't control.
Second note: Just enforce the existing Constitution. If the criminals won't obey it, they won't obey a modified one either.

ratcat posted on 2009-03-15 1:34:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#0)
The message of We The People Foundation is too esoteric and does not clearly bottom line the nature of America's political problem to wit: control of the top political process in America has been taken over by agents of the Israeli lobby to serve Israel's interests, albeit America is provided with an entertaining fun election spectacle, free of shootings and other violence which characterize elections in some other countries (although no guarantee that an elected leader won't be shot or otherwise run out of office by pro-Israel media or the judiciary if he doesn't tow the Israeli line).
Nevertheless, short of military or judicial intervention this kind of grass roots organization is the only way the American voter will be able to reclaim sovereignty as long as Israeli continues as an illegal, outlaw state (and like a disease, infects America with its psychotic, lawless mores).

Tatarewicz posted on 2009-03-15 2:53:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: Hayek Fan (#20) (Edited)
If I may make a suggestion: I think it's far more important for people to get together and start thinking and talking about what went wrong with the first American revolution, why the Constitution failed, and what we want to see arise in the wake of the closing of the first chapter of the history of the United States of America.
We don't have to "bring the system down", because it is doing a marvelous job of tearing itself to pieces. Therefore I don't think it is either smart or productive to talk about anything along the lines of "bringing it down" or "getting back at the bastards" or anything else like that. I do think it would be very smart to start thinking really hard about what went wrong, what went right, what we've learned, and what we all would like to see arise in the place of this failed empire once it finally falls.
Here's a few thoughts on what might be considered: First, I think "corporate personhood" was a dreadful mistake, I think "Limited Liability Corporations" should be about as much protection as any legitimate company would ever need, and that having "corporations" that are given the rights of an individual human being is simply beyond the pale. It creates a person who can steal but never be imprisoned, can murder without being executed, can commit any and every crime in the book and never have to do anything but pay a fine at worst. Said fines are easily filed under the heading of "business expenses", and then they toddle off to commit even worse crimes. This leads to a pervasive culture of criminality that contaminates the entire society, from top to bottom, and it needs to end and to never be allowed to flourish ever again.
Second, our legal system is broken beyond belief. I think one of the single biggest reasons for that is because we allow lawyers to run for Congress and the Presidency. Think about it: By definition, lawyers get total control of 1/3 of the government from step one. Why should any sane people want to see lawyers in control of the other two branches of government? I propose any new system of government should officially ban anyone who has practiced law from ever serving in any branch of government other than the judicial branch.
Third: Monied interests have become way too powerful in our society. We need to completely and totally get rid of the influence of money in our political system. No more "campaign contributions" of any kind, period. All campaigns should be 100% publicly funded, and on a very limited budget. The current system that allows unlimited "campaign contributions" to candidates is mind-boggling and an obvious invitation for extreme corruption of the very worst kind. Our congressional representatives and senators spend the vast majority of their time raising funds for their next election! This is utterly insane.
Fourth: Having a privately owned bank in control of the issuance of a nations currency is a sure-fire recipe for disaster. A nation that does not keep the issuance of currency as a public trust is a nation that has decided to be enslaved by private interests. This is a guaranteed nation breaker.
Fifth: I am of the opinion that once a nation grows much beyond fifteen to twenty million people, that from that point on said nation becomes more and more controlled by vested interests, and less and less responsive to the needs and concerns of its citizens. Therefore, I submit that any healthy nation should recognize that reality, and once it grows much past that size then it need to work out a way to peacefully divide into two smaller nations.
Now, I'm perfectly willing to talk about any and all of these notions, I freely admit that I could be utterly wrong about any of them. But more importantly, I want people to start thinking hard about what we all want, need and expect from a new form of government. Because this government, this system is corrupt beyond belief, more dysfunctional than the Manson family, and is doomed to fail sooner or later. Most likely sooner. So rather than rant and rave and bluster and threaten and puff ourselves up thinking about how we're going to "fight back", why don't we instead start thinking about what we would want to be fighting for instead of what we're fighting against. Why don't we recognize that this current system of things has very little support any longer, and that once we can describe a better system, and involve others in that discussion, and get their input, ideas, suggestions and hopes as part of this new and better ideal, that then any remaining support for this corrupt nightmare empire will vanish like a piss puddle on concrete under a hot summer sky.
Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.

Elliott Jackalope posted on 2009-03-15 7:07:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: farmfriend, hounddawg (#10)
You are right, he best leave the PR to someone else.

lol!!
If this is bob Shultz' group, how successful has he been? I think his heart is in the right place but these satanists don't give a fig if anyone signs a petition or marches or starves themselves ('hunger protest').

On a side note eric whoru last year brought up how shultz always included the word 'citizen' in his documents. From all I have read, i don't think that is a swell idea.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Artisan posted on 2009-03-15 7:52:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: Elliott Jackalope (#23)
what we all would like to see arise in the place of this failed empire once it finally falls.

Well considered, well written,
My view is that this "government" will not fall or fail peacefully or without violence. What will rise from the ashes in my opinion will not be good.

Cynicom posted on 2009-03-15 8:23:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: Elliott Jackalope (#1)
You can't be part of this. Since your beliefs are largely the antithesis of our constitution.

Old Friend posted on 2009-03-15 8:40:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: LACUMO (#4)
You cannot be part of this effort as you are NOT a patriot. You are the enemy of patriots. You are the problem not the solution. Get out of the way and maybe we will throw you a few crumbs dog.

Old Friend posted on 2009-03-15 8:42:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: ratcat (#21)
Patriots have done everything to avoid and prevent a Con Con, since it will only be used by Globalists to gut what is left of the US Constitution. Hasn't 'we the people' got the word? Or maybe that's the goal.

Wise words. I would consider you an ally.

Old Friend posted on 2009-03-15 8:43:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: Elliott Jackalope (#23)
Fifth: I am of the opinion that once a nation grows much beyond fifteen to twenty million people, that from that point on said nation becomes more and more controlled by vested interests, and less and less responsive to the needs and concerns of its citizens. Therefore, I submit that any healthy nation should recognize that reality, and once it grows much past that size then it need to work out a way to peacefully divide into two smaller nations.

Like I said. You are an enemy of the constitution.

Old Friend posted on 2009-03-15 8:45:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: LACUMO (#12)
I figure you spooks would start adjusting a bit by now, changing up your routine for stirring shit ~
You must have me mixed up with someone else. Joos do that all the time. Are you jooish?

He has you pegged shit face.

Old Friend posted on 2009-03-15 8:47:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: HOUNDDAWG (#7)
that those with different views were beneath them and unworthy of any recruitment efforts

You think the government is run by lizards. You are a loon. You belong in the mad house.

Old Friend posted on 2009-03-15 8:50:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: FormerLurker (#19)
At this point I'd be a bit wary of joining any such group, as it could well be a cointelpro project collecting names of "domestic terrorists" who are to be given closer scrutiny, or worse.

There you go.
Anyone can start up a website. They can make it look so patriotic.
Just because you can see it in print and they have nice graphics doesn't make it legit.
Face it, folks. The Constitution is dead. You cant revive it by working within the system because it was destroyed by that system. We need to start all over again. We need to hit ctrl-alt-del.
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PSUSA posted on 2009-03-15 9:04:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: Old Friend (#30)
He has you pegged shit face.

Yeah! Many have you pegged twinky. They know you gobble the woodies and eat circumcised jooish penis foreskins. You come by the nickname penis breath honestly. You still want your jooish brothers to murder the less than human Palestinians? I don't know why you believer them to be less than human. Now we know why you love AC/DC so much; because you are dork face.

LACUMO posted on 2009-03-15 9:57:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: Elliott Jackalope (#23)
So rather than rant and rave and bluster and threaten and puff ourselves up thinking about how we're going to "fight back", why don't we instead start thinking about what we would want to be fighting for instead of what we're fighting against.

You fight back when you are attacked FIRST. It's not "puffing up" anything. It has nothing to do with taking them down, it has everything to do with self defense.
You seem to be smart, so I ask this: Do you really think they will just go quietly into the sunset? What do you think "they" will do to keep their power?
One step at a time. To rebuild, we need to know what we have to work with. We won't know that until "the PTB" go away.
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PSUSA posted on 2009-03-15 10:15:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: PSUSA (#34)
You seem to be smart, so I ask this: Do you really think they will just go quietly into the sunset? What do you think "they" will do to keep their power?

I don't believe they will quietly go away. That isn't even a blip on their minds. Instead they are continually tightening their grip on us and keep encroaching on our liberties.
Anyone who believes they will just ride off into the sunset is delusional.

LACUMO posted on 2009-03-15 12:33:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: LACUMO (#35)
Exactly. IMO they are now more dangerous than ever. They have backed themselves into a corner and they will come out swinging.
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PSUSA posted on 2009-03-15 12:36:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: Old Friend (#30)
You can't be part of this. Since your beliefs are largely the antithesis of our constitution.

He has you pegged shit face.

With all due respect, I would submit that YOU are the one who can't be part of this. Why? Because if, by some unhappy turn of events, you were to contribute to the creation of a new Constitution, the resulting document would end up reading like something penned by a schizophrenic Tourette's patient. Since you seem utterly incapable of contributing anything other than invective, profanities and slurs, any one with a functioning sense of decorum, any kind of ideals, and any sense of decency whatsoever would go to great lengths to be very sure that you didn't get within a hundred miles of any serious efforts to improve anything.
Don't feel bad. If there's ever a convention of demolition derby car drivers, house wreckers, mindless followers of authority figures and/or Tourette's victims, I'm sure they'll be very happy to have you as a guest of honor. It's all a question of finding your niche in this world. Just stay far, far away from responsible adults who are trying to do anything constructive and you'll be fine.
Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.

Elliott Jackalope posted on 2009-03-15 16:47:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: Elliott Jackalope (#37)
With all due respect, I would submit that YOU are the one who can't be part of this. Why? Because if, by some unhappy turn of events, you were to contribute to the creation of a new Constitution, the resulting document would end up reading like something penned by a schizophrenic Tourette's patient. Since you seem utterly incapable of contributing anything other than invective, profanities and slurs, any one with a functioning sense of decorum, any kind of ideals, and any sense of decency whatsoever would go to great lengths to be very sure that you didn't get within a hundred miles of any serious efforts to improve anything.
Don't feel bad. If there's ever a convention of demolition derby car drivers, house wreckers, mindless followers of authority figures and/or Tourette's victims, I'm sure they'll be very happy to have you as a guest of honor. It's all a question of finding your niche in this world. Just stay far, far away from responsible adults who are trying to do anything constructive and you'll be fine.

European Socialists Need Not Apply BUMP

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-15 17:13:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: Rotara (#38) (Edited)
Riiight, because anything resembling "socialism" is baaaaad. Well then, let's get rid of labor laws! Who needs them! They're socialist! And, of course, child labor laws. Those are socialist! Since the little ones will be working away in factories, we can close down the public schools, since they're socialist! And who needs food safety laws? Those are socialist! I'm sure the free market will ensure that safe, wholesome food will be sold in the markets. And who needs roads? Those are socialist! Heck, for that matter, who wants democracy? That sure smacks of socialism to me! In fact, why have police? That's awfully socialistic, don't you think? People should hire private goons to protect their interests! I'm sure nothing could go wrong with that kind of free-market initiative! Or fire departments? Who needs those? That's just more socialism! So get rid of them! If you can't afford to have someone come and put your house out, then that's YOUR problem, right? And if the fire spreads to neighboring houses, well, then they can pony up for the firefighters. If they don't have the money, tough luck! More opportunity for "free enterprise" to fill in the gaps! Yessir, there's nothing that can't be made better by free enterprise.
Honestly, you are deranged. I hope you realize that.
Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.

Elliott Jackalope posted on 2009-03-15 17:34:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: Elliott Jackalope (#39)
Honestly, you're a cock sucking deviant that only plays a quasi American on the Internets for social purposes.
I hope you realize that.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-15 18:15:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#41. To: Rotara (#40)
Tourette's is a truly unfortunate disease to be afflicted with. They do have medications for that nowadays, you really should seek some professional help with that. Maybe someday, with medication and therapy, you can learn how to express yourself without resorting to vile invective.
Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.

Elliott Jackalope posted on 2009-03-15 18:24:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#42. To: Elliott Jackalope (#41)
Con mucho gusto motherfucker !!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-15 18:43:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#43. To: Hayek Fan (#20)
Do not be goaded by assholes like LACUMO. Even if he's not a government enforcer, he's not doing anything more than anyone else to stop what's happening in this country.

Just wanted to let ewe know that all ewe bone smokers are a like. Ewe are delusional, always ready to attack others for no good reason other than to keep people divided. I guess it makes the conquering that much easier. Any way faggot, this is my first ever reply to ewe and my last one also. Who's the bottom, ewe or farm friend? Or maybe ewe's guys do threesomes with rotara.

LACUMO posted on 2009-03-15 18:47:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#44. To: LACUMO (#43)
Just wanted to let ewe know that all ewe bone smokers are a like. Ewe are delusional, always ready to attack others for no good reason other than to keep people divided. I guess it makes the conquering that much easier. Any way faggot, this is my first ever reply to ewe and my last one also. Who's the bottom, ewe or farm friend? Or maybe ewe's guys do threesomes with rotara.

The pole smoker is your whore of a mother. Quit trying to act the martyr you fake. All anyone has to do is look at your postng history to know what your MO is. Just about your every post is an attack on someone because they aren't "doing enough." Of course you never seem to answer what it is YOU'RE doing that's any different from anyone else you attack. Since working and voting for a third party and donating to small government causes isn't enough for you, then once again I ask you - "where are the tombstones of the politicians and bueaurcrats you've killed located?" That seems to be what you want others on this forum to do, so surely you've led the way.
You're a fraud. What I'd like to know is what government enforcement agency are you working for.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976
The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
F.A. Hayek Fan posted on 2009-03-15 19:06:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#45. To: Elliott Jackalope, christine, ALL, *LEAP*, Libertarians, Ron Paul, redpanther (#23) (Edited)
BUMP Your post and the ideas contained within and expand on it/
Now, I'm perfectly willing to talk about any and all of these notions, I freely admit that I could be utterly wrong about any of them. But more importantly, I want people to start thinking hard about what we all want, need and expect from a new form of government. Because this government, this system is corrupt beyond belief, more dysfunctional than the Manson family, and is doomed to fail sooner or later.
[Indie: Both John Adams and Benjamin Franklin KNEW it would fail and said as much.]

The LegalIndustrialComplex in this country (supposedly-along with the founding documents-based on "religious" ideals) is the anti-thesis of everything moral. I'll leave religion out of it. Too many have been killed in its name. It would take an entire manuscript to even scratch the surface on this topic. Leave it best to say only that our LIC is not about "justice" nor is it about altruism.
Many are in prison who do not belong there. Virtually every "crime" worthy of incarceration carries with it a figurative death sentence of destroyed lives with no other purpose than the perpetuation of the lie that somehow the American legal system is just and sound.
Do all crimes deserve the death penalty as stated above? Should all violators (I refuse to acknowledge the word "criminal" because it is has invalid and incorrect connotations) have their wealth and families destroyed during and after a trial for which there is an almost certain chance they will be found guilty...not by any preponderance of the evidence, but due to unconstitutional judge's instructions, "testilying" by police, incompetent defense and Evil laws that should never have been written in the first place???
Should people be expected to have their lives destroyed merely waiting for a trial in a kangaroo court when they are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty?
There are too many unjust laws on the books. There are too many laws on the books.. period. Because who defines "just?" Anything has become an excuse to deprive a supposedly free people from their Liberty. Indeed, everyone has been deemed a criminal by the law. The unlucky time will come when the the persecutors decide to use the law to their own ends...indeed that time has already come. Lawyers, along with the warped sense of justice from which they derive their profession, have destroyed the fabric of the nation. We are a people who obey out of fear, not a sense of what is right and good.
It should be illegal for lawyers to hold any elected government office.
Meanwhile, Americans go to prison for petty theft, whilst their adversaries in the Elite and in government steal, invade privacy, violate the constitution they are sworn to uphold, and murder daily..completely unmolested by laws or consequences. Our lives have become open books to be exploited and controlled by the Elite and their institutions. The entire world has access to a man's credit rating and can even deny him an employment position because of it, yet our politicians tell us "the past does not matter" when it concerns their misadventures.
It is time for a revolution of ideas, not just power change. It is time to examine everthing we've been told from 1776 onward.
Don't tread on me.
--The government set up by the Constitution-- "is likely to be well administered for a Course of Years and can only end in Despotism as other Forms have done before it, when the People shall become so corrupted as to need Despotic Government, being incapable of any other."
--- -Benjamin Franklin
--The arrogance shown by the British in seizing a couple of hundred American merchantmen is a trait to be found in Adam's own countrymen-- "The United States is Britain's very image and superscription . . . as true a gamecock as she and, I warrant you, shall become as great a scourge to mankind."
----John Adams
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace
ALAS, BABYLON
IndieTX posted on 2009-03-15 20:47:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#46. To: IndieTX (#45)
Paul is a born again republican.

Cynicom posted on 2009-03-15 20:49:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#47. To: Cynicom (#46)
Yep. He'd never finish reading the post.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace
ALAS, BABYLON
IndieTX posted on 2009-03-15 20:53:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: IndieTX (#47)
Beware all professional politicians, regardless of party, stripe color or smell.

Cynicom posted on 2009-03-15 20:55:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#49. To: IndieTX, Cynicom (#45)
Here's a concise statement on his beliefs:
Statement of Faith By Rep. Ron Paul, MD.
The Covenant News ~ July 21, 2007 http://www.covenantnews.com/ronpaul070721.htm

litus posted on 2009-03-15 20:57:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#50. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#0)
It is time for you to learn English. Nice try though. NOT!
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2009-03-15 20:59:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#51. To: Amandil (#11)
LACUMO is a good guy. He was at the rally on the Capitol lawn last July. He isn't here to stir shit up. He is a patriotic American that is tired of seeing this country self-destruct.
Asking questions about the obvious can make some mad, but farmfriend's question here is a good one. Anyone that is a patriotic American that wants to protect the Constitution should at least learn English well first. Ming the Merciless as far as we know is a paid forum poster working in India for the CIA. Wethepeople.com, or whatever they are called, could very well be one of the CIA's sites for gathering the names of all those that want to bring back Constitutional law in this nation.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2009-03-15 22:02:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#52. To: RickyJ, lacumo (#51)
LACUMO is a good guy. He was at the rally on the Capitol lawn last July. He isn't here to stir shit up. He is a patriotic American that is tired of seeing this country self-destruct.

I wonder if he files right on time every time.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-15 22:08:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#53. To: PSUSA (#34)
You seem to be smart, so I ask this: Do you really think they will just go quietly into the sunset? What do you think "they" will do to keep their power?

I wanted to give this some thought before answering. I'll do my best.
Here's the basic problem: We're talking about a fairly small group of very powerful elites who are trying to manipulate people, institutions and events to their advantage. This is a rather tough task in even the calmest of times. However, these are not "calm" times, events are now moving along at a very brisk pace, and we're talking about people with no kind of "moral compass", indeed for them there's only "win, lose and spin".
As a result, what I think is the most likely progression of events is going to be something along the lines of crisis followed by crisis followed by bigger crisis, and these elites are going to find themselves suddenly forced to improvise responses on the fly. This is far from an ideal situation for them, and their utterly craven character is going to start becoming apparent to even the dimmest bulbs in the general population. Unpopular decisions and/or reactions will be followed by even more frantic and craven unpopular decisions and reactions. As the manipulations and actions become more and more desperate, revulsion with their leadership will grow exponentially.
Eventually multiple breaking points will be reached. Fatigue at all levels will become a major component of the problem, and then systems will begin to fail. Those at the top will become increasingly truculent and paranoid, those carrying out their orders will become less and less impressed by their bosses, and those at the bottom of the pyramid will be worked harder and harder for less and less. They'll find less food in their bowl, and more lashes on the back for not working hard enough.
When the final phase of disintegration begins it will start suddenly, seemingly out of nowhere, and will proceed with blinding speed. A major crisis will finally reveal that, indeed, the "emperor has no clothes". This empire will seem to be utterly unbeatable one month, and the next month it will be in the process of crumbling. The month after that will see the empire signed out of existence. This is how the Soviet Union fell, and this is how America will eventually fall. I don't know exactly when, I don't think anyone does. But this empire's days are numbered, and there's not a lot of days left for it.
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Religion flies you into buildings.

Elliott Jackalope posted on 2009-03-16 3:25:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#54. To: RickyJ (#51)
Wethepeople.com, or whatever they are called, could very well be one of the CIA's sites for gathering the names of all those that want to bring back Constitutional law in this nation.

Well, they get the names for the no-fly list someplace.
I have little doubt that websites have been constructed for the sole purpose of shearing the sheople.
It's MO for the StateInc.
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IndieTX posted on 2009-03-16 4:03:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#55. To: PSUSA (#32)
There you go.
Anyone can start up a website. They can make it look so patriotic.
Just because you can see it in print and they have nice graphics doesn't make it legit.

Exactly. I can't believe there are those gullible enough to fall for it, especially here where the majority are more aware of what's going on than most...
It's like there's a bit of wishful thinking going on, and people are ready to grasp at whatever straw is handed them. That's not the way to survive in a hostile environment.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-16 4:22:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#56. To: Elliott Jackalope (#53)
What you say makes sense and I agree. But IMO you dont properly account for the "useful idiots". It's in how they will show their revulsion that worries me. We have a very thin veneer of civilization in some quarters.
Our "leaders" are not a direct threat to us so defending ourselves against them is pointless. But their stooges are. If they are cut loose from their controllers then all hell will break loose. That's how I see it anyway.
I would be careful in drawing too many parallels with the USSR. Their people were used to doing without, and they weren't armed to the teeth like we are. And they might not have had the racial problems we do. Most of us are armed for defense, but not all. Some will go on the offensive.
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PSUSA posted on 2009-03-16 6:20:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#57. To: RickyJ (#51)
asking questions is great, showing links to answers is even better ... ~ throwing barbs and derision at the very people 'patriots' would be defending 'n fighting for is counter-productive though (imo), it stirs shit, gets people to say things they'll regret later ... a puzzle I ain't solved yet is how some sheep can wake up to all their 'truth' and then start deriding all the other sheep, callin em stupid 'n lazy ... either they were never a sheep in the first place but really a wolf trying to piss folks off, or they are still one of the very 'stupid sheep' they bitch about ~ (IMOOC)

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Amandil posted on 2009-03-16 13:40:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#58. To: LACUMO, farmfriend (#9)
Kapish? Some times you Rhodes Scholars are so damn smart you don't have any common sense.

My people have opposed a con con for thirty years, with the rhetorical question, "Do you want Ted Kennedy to write the new constitution?"
The truth of the matter is, there is no way to control the outcome of a con con, and it would be directed and stage managed by the very same people who own our congress now.
For you to demonstrate such absolute blind faith while pouncing on everyone who doesn't immediately gulp the Kool Aid you're serving up is an insult to intelligent people.
If I would sign on to a platform heaved up by an anonymous person shielded by an internet screen name just to avoid being insulted what good would I be to those who really are willing to sacrifice all to save America?
I'm sorry but, if you don't have the "intellectual ass" to turn the wrench you shouldn't feign impatience to hide the deficit.
You and I agree on more things than not, and I hate to be the one to tell you but not all patriots are destined for greatness.
And, rudeness is no substitute for courage.
It will take great hardships to unite the people against the evildoers, and we just don't know which side (if either) will emerge victorious.
Some folks would prefer that there is no single political entity known as America, period, just so the same thing won't happen all over again as soon as people are lulled back to sleep.
And, I don't have an argument for that. Do you?

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2009-03-16 15:03:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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