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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
Author: m e
Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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Views: 11654
Comments: 2261

Officer Jack McLamb's shows:
arc.gcnlive.com/Archives2009/mar09/McLamb/030209.mp3
arc.gcnlive.com/Archives2009/mar09/McLamb/030309.mp3
arc.gcnlive.com/Archives2009/mar09/McLamb/030409.mp3
arc.gcnlive.com/Archives2009/mar09/McLamb/030509.mp3
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#81. To: Cynicom (#72)
Well, dont settle in with all the furniture, you may not like the neighborhood and decide to move on.

I think I'll make that determination if you don't mind...Your manners are NOT impressing me thus far.

Liberator posted on 2009-03-21 20:42:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#82. To: sneakypete (#73)
Brother, I think most posters who know you would agree with my assessment.

Liberator posted on 2009-03-21 20:43:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#83. To: tom007 (#74)
I think I'll need a translator...

Liberator posted on 2009-03-21 20:44:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#84. To: F16Fighter (#69)
Hadn't you frequented both FR and LP?

yes. then FreedomUnderground. then here.

christine posted on 2009-03-21 20:45:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#85. To: sneakypete (#78)
Ahhhh,but purposeful neglect is NOT the same thing as "being behind it".
I don't think they made any real effort to stop any potential attack,but that's not the same thing as saying they planned or encouraged one.

Gray area there, Pete.
I've made the case with respect to 9/11 as analogous to leaving the store door wide open and unguarded - along with an open cash register - then claiming no responsibility for the thievery.

Liberator posted on 2009-03-21 20:47:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#86. To: James Deffenbach (#79)
LOL! Yes indeed--to be a mastermind presupposes the presence of a mind.

Dubya has a "mind"...It's just been "borrowed" by Poppy's Elitist friends.

Liberator posted on 2009-03-21 20:49:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#87. To: F16Fighter (#80)
Despite LP being a great outlet for blowing off steam and lending itself to constructive and unrestrictive, uncensored debate, some the kiddies seem bent on sabotaging it...

That may be why. It's not the type of website they like.

sneakypete posted on 2009-03-21 20:49:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#88. To: F16Fighter (#81)
I think I'll make that determination if you don't mind...Your manners are NOT impressing me thus far.

I have little interest in impressing anyone.
If I am incorrect, I will be the first to admit it to you.
Other than that, welcome to 4um, you may or may not like it here as they tolerate my kind.

Cynicom posted on 2009-03-21 20:50:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#89. To: sneakypete (#52) (Edited)
No," taken off the air" means it can no longer be seen. In the context you presented it,it means the government took it off the air because they didn't want people seeing it and thinking. If that were true,it wouldn't be playing on 4 channels tonight.

I just explained the context in which I presented it. You're now inferring meaning which is fraudulent. Off you go now. I haven't time for your jousting. Goodbye.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace
ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
IndieTX posted on 2009-03-21 20:52:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#90. To: F16Fighter (#86)
Dubya has a "mind"...

Well, compared to the current occupant of the White House he almost sounds like a candidate for MENSA. But to say he is probably smarter than the Obamasiah is not bragging on him. More like damning him with faint praise.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2009-03-21 20:53:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#91. To: Itistoolate (#0)
LibertyForum went 'down' last year

Wasn't the slack picked up by Astoria's forum? where did everyone from there go?
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
farmfriend posted on 2009-03-21 20:54:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#92. To: christine (#84)
>>Hadn't you frequented both FR and LP?
"yes. then FreedomUnderground. then here."

I assume Herr JR's FR was too Stalinist for you? If you're like me you'd found some elements whereever with which you related, but did not "fall-in-line" with the consensus.
Every forum forms and develops its own flavor and evolves or else it grows stale.

Liberator posted on 2009-03-21 20:54:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#93. To: sneakypete, Itistoolate (#77)
"Mrs Yukon" (obviously a poster trying to yank Yukon's chain) posted several pretty raunchy articles and posts. It was obviously someone only interested in causing trouble.

Poetic justice. I will never forgive him for what he did.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
farmfriend posted on 2009-03-21 20:56:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#94. To: Cynicom (#88)
welcome to 4um, you may or may not like it here as they tolerate my kind.

Thank you.
I can tolerate opposing views as long as the debate is intellectually honest.

Liberator posted on 2009-03-21 20:56:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#95. To: sneakypete (#87)
I HOPE the sabotage of the usual goofballs wasn't instrumental in Goldi closing shop; That will have meant they've won the battle.

Liberator posted on 2009-03-21 20:58:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#96. To: farmfriend (#91)
I don't know about Astoria's forum.

Itistoolate posted on 2009-03-21 21:00:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#97. To: F16Fighter (#95)
I HOPE the sabotage of the usual goofballs wasn't instrumental in Goldi closing shop; That will have meant they've won the battle.

I don't pretend to be close friends with Goldi,but I have a hard time believing she would pull the plug without making an announcement.

sneakypete posted on 2009-03-21 21:01:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#98. To: James Deffenbach (#90)
Well, compared to the current occupant of the White House he almost sounds like a candidate for MENSA. But to say he is probably smarter than the Obamasiah is not bragging on him. More like damning him with faint praise.

LOL...
As we've gotten to "know" 0bomba, I believe Dubya's actually gained in mental stature. Sadly. And ironically.
Dubya may not have been able to run that lemonade stand, but at least he would have attempted to run it; Obama would have turned his nose up at the prospect, while giggling and lighting HUGE joint...then conning someone else to run it.

Liberator posted on 2009-03-21 21:04:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#99. To: sneakypete (#97)
Certainly outta character for her...but...

Liberator posted on 2009-03-21 21:05:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#100. To: F16Fighter (#98) (Edited)
Obama would have turned his nose up at the prospect, while giggling and lighting HUGE joint...then conning someone else to run it.

Here is what his pet chimp (Michelle) said about him:

"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zone . . . Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual - uninvolved, uninformed."

Where did she get the stupid idea that he could "require" people to work? He is an EMPLOYEE, not the boss. And it is doubtful he is even a legitimate employee.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2009-03-21 21:09:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#101. To: James Deffenbach (#100)
Where did she get the stupid idea that he could "require" people to work?

Apparently when the 'State takes the Road':
An Extract from "DAS KAPITAL" Karl Marx - 1867

"Owners of capital will stimulate the working class to buy more and more expensive goods, and houses, pushing them to take more and more expensive credits, until debt becomes unbearable.
The unpaid debt will lead to the bankruptcy of banks, which will have to be nationalized, and the State will have to take the road which will eventually lead to Communism. "
Karl Marx, 1867.

nooz posted on 2009-03-21 21:13:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#102. To: nooz (#101)
Yeah, maybe her adherence to communist ideas (such as they are) explains a lot of things about her and the Obamasiah.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2009-03-21 21:14:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#103. To: James Deffenbach (#102)
Yeah, maybe her adherence to communist ideas (such as they are) explains a lot of things about her and the Obamasiah.

But did the sheep listen? Noooooo-ooooo-ooooo. Too late now. Mandatory 'shear'vice is here. No little moonpie-eye left behind.

nooz posted on 2009-03-21 21:20:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#104. To: Itistoolate (#96)
I don't know about Astoria's forum.

Boondocks. She started it with Jack Barbara, or what ever his name was, and a few others.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
farmfriend posted on 2009-03-21 21:45:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#105. To: nooz (#101)
Apparently when the 'State takes the Road':
An Extract from "DAS KAPITAL" Karl Marx - 1867
"Owners of capital will stimulate the working class to buy more and more expensive goods, and houses, pushing them to take more and more expensive credits, until debt becomes unbearable.
The unpaid debt will lead to the bankruptcy of banks, which will have to be nationalized, and the State will have to take the road which will eventually lead to Communism. "
Karl Marx, 1867.

:chills:

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-21 22:46:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#106. To: Rotara (#105)
To: nooz
Apparently when the 'State takes the Road': An Extract from "DAS KAPITAL" Karl Marx - 1867
"Owners of capital will stimulate the working class to buy more and more expensive goods, and houses, pushing them to take more and more expensive credits, until debt becomes unbearable.
The unpaid debt will lead to the bankruptcy of banks, which will have to be nationalized, and the State will have to take the road which will eventually lead to Communism. "
Karl Marx, 1867.
:chills:

Communism sounds quaint compared to the ROAD we're on.
But just in case it's not clear enough:

Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

www.infowars.com/baxter-p...ined-live-bird-flu-virus/

Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries
www.infowars.com/vaccines...ons-live-avian-flu-virus- placed-in-baxter-vaccine-materials-sent-to-18-countries/

nooz posted on 2009-03-21 23:00:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#107. To: sneakypete (#54)

I had several people rant and rave to me about how good it is,so I have been recording it to watch later. I haven't watched any of it yet because I want to watch them all in order to get the full enjoyment.

Its worth a watch, and will probably be better if you watch it all in a row. But don't expect a great show. Its merely good.

Rhino369 posted on 2009-03-21 23:07:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#108. To: nooz (#106)
from your link
Genocide thru pandemic Says: March 5th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Is Jewish controlled Baxter planning a genocide of non Jews?
Baxter was one of the Arab League’s blacklist of companies doing business with the Jewish state.
Baxter sent out the contaminated material to 18 countries with a focus on Austria and Germany. If any of the lab staff had gotten infected (it’s still not clear), it could have started a pandemic in no time. Avir Green Hills Biotechnology is in a built up location in Vienna, on a key traffic artery, albeit close to suburbs.
The company only checked its staff after the Czech labs, and then the other German, Slovakian and Austrian labs found the virus.
Isn’t this attempted genocide?
www.pgorg.com/index.html
Attempted mass murder?

Itistoolate posted on 2009-03-21 23:16:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#109. To: nooz (#106)
The Global Fascist State built with a compassionate communism is something I'm very well aware of.
Thanks for the links

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-21 23:17:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#110. To: Itistoolate (#108)
Attempted mass murder?

yes

nooz posted on 2009-03-21 23:18:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#111. To: Rotara (#109)
The Global Fascist State built with a compassionate communism is something I'm very well aware of.
Thanks for the links

When will people understand that what is happening is not the accident of voting.

nooz posted on 2009-03-21 23:19:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#112. To: nooz (#110)
Depopulation 4 min.wmv https://www.box.net/shared/static/mrok45vrd9.wmv

Itistoolate posted on 2009-03-21 23:21:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#113. To: nooz (#111)
When will people understand that what is happening is not the accident of voting.

It could be that the majority is simply not capable of surviving. I'm glad I'm not in the majority.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-21 23:23:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#114. To: Itistoolate (#112)
just opened and listening

nooz posted on 2009-03-21 23:36:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#115. To: Rotara (#113)
It could be that the majority is simply not capable of surviving. I'm glad I'm not in the majority.

Eyes up dude.

nooz posted on 2009-03-21 23:37:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#116. To: nooz (#111)

When will people understand that what is happening is not the accident of voting.

The people are stupid always have been and always will be. Its just the way humans are. The vast majority are stupid, and have no capacity to understand complex things.
However I think you aren't grasping what is happening now either. American society has been controlled by the business class almost from the beginning. Some colonies like Virgina were freaking set up by corporations. Literally a corporation, Virgina Company.
America didn't have a nobility, we had a business class. This is because land was almost free, since you could always move west. In europe land was scarce, and true wealth was in owning land. In America wealth was always in commerce, and banking.
America established a national bank almost immediately. And the United States has had central banking its entire history save 1837-1864. Corporate influence over the United States has always been there.
What we are seeing is nothing new, nor particularly worse than before.
This is important to realize, because there are many things that need to be fixed, but if you view our current situations without the lens of history you will never accomplish anything. This isn't the end or the world or anything close.

Rhino369 posted on 2009-03-21 23:40:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#117. To: Rhino369 (#116)
It sounds like possibly you have read The Creature.. by G Edward.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-21 23:42:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#118. To: Itistoolate (#112)
Finished.
A billion is just the tip. Sanger was only a part.

nooz posted on 2009-03-21 23:43:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#119. To: Rotara (#117)
No but if its good I might check it out. Do you recommend it?

Rhino369 posted on 2009-03-21 23:44:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#120. To: F16Fighter, sneakypete, war, Itistoolate, all (#61)
(by F16Fighter)
Has Goldi ever neglected LP to this extent?
I'm inclined to believe a combination of the grief of dealing mentally disturbed whining posters, the wretched state of the Union, and pressures we may not be privy to in her personal life may have caused her to say "SCREW IT!"...even for a week or so and beyond. Hope she's alright.
Pulling the plug permanently? Hey - who knows.
F16Fighter/Liberator

Hi F16Fighter
I was on LP briefly late at night two nights ago
and some disruptor had posted all bizarre hate in Breaking News
next morning site was down
I think Goldi got fed up, I don't know what she will do ?
I am guessing she isn't doing anything right now, just thinking it over?
Love, Palo

palo verde posted on 2009-03-21 23:45:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#121. To: Rhino369, TwentyTwelve, christine, litus, G Edward Griffin (#119)
Do you recommend it?

As if your life depended on it yesterday.
But please don't take just my word for it.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-21 23:46:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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