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#4. To: Itistoolate (#0)
It could just be that Goldi has gone away for the weekend and doesn't know the site is down,or that there has been an equipment failure of some sort and they are working on getting it fixed. Or it could just be that she got tired of putting up with all the crap,and just pulled the plug. I doubt the last one,though. I think she would post a notice if she were going to do this.
Crap???? Like the resident Jews whining and sniveling to her all the time about the horrible anti semites????? I dont think so. Ass kissing goys make me and this forum sick.
Like the resident Jews whining and sniveling to her all the time about the horrible anti semites????? I guess it's all in the viewpoint. I see more Jew haters calling her names than I see Jews sniveling about anti-Semites. BTW,I was called a anti-Semite there the day before the site went down,and it wasn't the first time. I see no evidence of the Jews and Israeli-Firsters there having any more influence with her than anybody else. In fact,she even banned Margueritte a couple of years ago under another of her screen names.
Perhaps there is a thought... You also like magician, Marge and the others see nothing but Jew haters. If you look at LP, that is nearly all you see, people that see anti semitism under their bed, in the closet and are afraid to deal with it. No one on LP has ever raised the specter of anti goyism, have you ever wondered about that Pete???? I can go on LP and demand we nuke the Arab world, and not ONE WORD of disapproval, from anyone, not one.
Missed this one. I can't speak for anyone else,but you would hear protest there from me. What you seem to be missing is most of the people there (and everywhere else) that cheer the suggestion we nuke the A-Rabs aren't Jewish. Most are Christians,if in name only. They are people who bought into the whole terrorism thing at face value,and they are scared. BTW,I think that unless the NWO does take over we will eventually end up nuking several Muslim countries. It is inevitable that sooner or later some fundie Muslim group or another is going to get their hands on a nuke or a bio weapon,and use it to attack a major US city. Once that happens,all bets are off. Even I will be cheering to see the mushroom clouds over Arabia.
Maybe that's why I thought you to be the enemy. Do you still buy the lie that fundie muzzies hit us on 9/11 without Bush's help?
It pained me to believe it so without reservation, but the complicity by purposeful neglect indicts the globalist Bush Administration puppetmeisters is obvious IMO. Oh...And, no, I don't believe Bush himself was capable of masterminding a lemonade stand.
Ahhhh,but purposeful neglect is NOT the same thing as "being behind it". I don't think they made any real effort to stop any potential attack,but that's not the same thing as saying they planned or encouraged one.
I don't think they made any real effort to stop any potential attack,but that's not the same thing as saying they planned or encouraged one. Gray area there, Pete. I've made the case with respect to 9/11 as analogous to leaving the store door wide open and unguarded - along with an open cash register - then claiming no responsibility for the thievery.
I've made the case with respect to 9/11 as analogous to leaving the store door wide open and unguarded - If you both are going to say the WTC 1, 2 and 7 came down because of fire then you're both either very ignorant or trolls. There is too much evidence to the contrary to believe otherwise. Once you believe that the collapses were helped by explosives, then you have to believe that the Bush administration was complicit. And even if you can't see the physical impossibility of collapse by fire, you have to be able to see that no plane is going to fly into DC air space unidentified and unintercepted, without inside top level complicity. So which is it? Ignorance? Or shilliness?
wonderfully succinct
Before 911, a Logistics employee I am good friends with, for Fed Ex told me about a system of vectored red lights that DC had in place to warn of any unauthorized aircraft from even getting near the capitol, and if the craft did not turn around, anti aircraft weapons were at the ready. He flys a lot Alot. I believe him. However I have never broached the subject of the 911 attacks - for reasons of just getting along. I think he has got to go along with the ruse.
What is more likely? Our domestic air defense systems were hopelessly unprepared, or our government set it up, then perfectly executed the plan? Shit during the Clinton admin, a plane hit the white house, on accident. Our government is incompetent, that much is clear. It can't even torture people in Iraq in secret, do you think they can pull off a 9-11 without anyone knowing? Probably not. Our foreign policy caused 9-11, and silly conspiracy theories take away from learning the real truth. Playing chess with other nations has fucking consequences.
Not only that,but those same conspiracy theories are LOVED by the government because it allows them to dismiss any questions about their conduct as being linked to "those insane conspiracy freaks". Instead of helping the cause of freedom,all they are doing in hurting it and helping the government. AND....it does no good at all to argue with them because they are obsessed with every little detail,and have reams of false "Facts" to back up their arguments. What makes it so hard to argue against any conspiracy theory is that the best ones are all believable because there is a basis in fact to all of them. For example *I* am the one that started the conspiracy theory Hillary Clinton being behind the crash of JFK Jr's airplane and his death. I started this rumor on FR and used the fact that he had been talking about running for the same Senate seat ("his" family Senate seat) that she was running for,and this is the reason she had a had the airplane rigged to crash. Within a hour this was accepted as the gospel,and I was being called a DNC shill for saying it was made up,and a liar for saying I was the one who made it up. DESPITE the fact that the proof I was the one who made it up was right there on that very thread! Everybody jumped on the one little fact about the Senate seat,and that was all they needed or wanted to hear.
Instead of helping the cause of freedom,all they are doing in hurting it and helping the government. AND....it does no good at all to argue with them because they are obsessed with every little detail,and have reams of false "Facts" to back up their arguments. What makes it so hard to argue against any conspiracy theory is that the best ones are all believable because there is a basis in fact to all of them. I agree which is why it pains me to see you buy the conspiracy theory about Obama being born in Kenya. How much legit criticism is being wasted on that silly theory? I can believe it. The same thing happens on FR to this day. On the birth conspiracy, a person will merely guess about something, and then a day later its gospel until proven false. Its interesting to see how conspiracy theories form.
I don't think he was born in Kenya,and have never said I did. I think he was born in Hawaii,but we won't know this for a fact until he releases the vault copy of his birth certificate,will we? What I DO believe because it is an established FACT is that he was adopted by his step father and became an Indonesian citizen. Part of this process was rejecting his American citizenship. Despite what the Barry-Bots claim,his mother had the legal right to denounce his US citizeship. I also know he travled to Pakistan as a Indonesian citizen as an adult,and his name was Barry Soetoro at the time. I also know there has been no explanation whatsoever about how or when he changed his name and obtained US citizenship again. For all we know,he still had Indonesian citizenship.
Its not debatable, a mother cannot denounce US Citizenship. It is also not established he was adopted. travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html How do you know he traveled as an Indonesian citizen? How do you know what his name was?
travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html That wasn't the law when he was 7 years old. How do you know he traveled as an Indonesian citizen? Because Americans weren't allowed to travel to Pakistan then as tourists. How do you know what his name was? Because that is his name on the roster of the elementary school he went to in Indonesia.
That wasn't the law when he was 7 years old. Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939) The parents cannot remove a child's citizenship. Not true, it was just strong discouraged. Yes, school documentation from 1970's Indonesia is obviously much more official than Hawaiian certificates of live birth. The school would have put down whatever he was registered as by his step father.
Your hero, the Obamasiah, has not produced a "Certificate of Live Birth" but a CERTIFICATION. There is a difference. The State of Hawaii, statute 338, allows foreign born children of Hawaiian residents to get a Hawaiian birth certificate. Mr. Obama has never presented any corroborating evidence that he was actually born in Hawaii. His paternal grandmother in Kenya and the ambassador of Kenya made statements that he was born in Kenya. The image that Mr. Obama has posted on the Internet was not a valid birth certificate, but rather a limited value document, called Short Version Certification of Live Birth. The Certification of Live Birth does not name a hospital, name a doctor, have any signatures or a seal of the Hawaiian Health Department on the front of the document. This document is usually given to parties that don't have a proper hospital birth certificate and it is given based on a statement of one relative only. Even the state of Hawaii doesn't give full credit to these documents.
Your hero, the Obamasiah, has not produced a "Certificate of Live Birth" but a CERTIFICATION. There is a difference. He isn't my hero, I didn't even vote for him. Certificate certification who gives a shit, its legal proof in any court of the circumstances of his birth. The name of it is truly irrelevant. Not when Obama got his, and not one that lists his city of birth as Honolulu. Strike one. The grandma story is a fake. The audio you birther truthers claim is about Obama's father. Strike two. How would an Ambassador know if Obama was born there? You think they have every birth stored in their memories. He is on record saying Obama wasn't born there. That document is given to everyone who asks for a duplicate birth certificate. Everyone. Its fully legal, and is proof in any court of the circumstances of his birth, by Hawaiian law. And yes the state of Hawaii gives full credit to it. Strike Three. What you are talking about is a native hawaiian program where you must prove that not only you were born in Hawaii but your parents where both born in Hawaii. In that case that document isn't allowed, not because it can't be trusted as being accurate, but because it doesn't list the city of his parents birth. Like all conspiracy theorists you go out and try to find seeds of doubt to prove your forgone conclusion. And you can't even do that, so you must misrepresent what you find. The document Obama has shown is just as legal as any birth certificate in the nation. He can use it to get a drivers license, passport, social security card, anything.
Just like the rest of your post, that is bs. I had to send a certified copy of my actual birth certificate to get a passport. I couldn't have gotten one with that pos Photoshop thing you and your Obamasiah are so proud of.
Just like the rest of your post, that is bs. I had to send a certified copy of my actual birth certificate to get a passport. I couldn't have gotten one with that pos Photoshop thing you and your Obamasiah are so proud of. You can use the exact document Obama has to get a passport. That is a fucking fact.
Getting a passport is pretty much the equivalent of ascending to the north ameriKan throne !
Getting a passport is pretty much the equivalent of ascending to the north ameriKan throne ! D-d-d-d-d-odge.
Yeah, you dodge a LOT ! Are you saying that the requirements for acquiring a passport are the same for becoming preznit ? You've done nothing but dodge the reason Obamalamadingdong won't cough up his vitals - why ?
No asshole, it wasn't me who brought up getting passports. The requirements for President are clear. Be a natural born US citizen, live in the US for 14 years, and be 35 years old. The COLB is proof of two of those three.
Which oBama isn't due to his father having been a Kenyan/British citizen.
Which oBama isn't due to his father having been a Kenyan/British citizen. NBC means citizen at birth. Obama is a NBC.
"Obama... is not a "natural born citizen" because his father was a Kenyan national and a British subject. To be a natural born citizen, a person's parents must BOTH be citizens of the United States of America. Further, that person must be born in the United States. is a "citizen" because his mother was an American citizen. There are question about his birthplace and whether he was naturalized after his period of time as an Indonesian citizen. may be a "native born citizen" -- a child born in the United States of foreign (non-citizen) parents. He will have to release his birth certificate, which he hasn't, to ascertain this status. "
Please cite the Title, Chapter and Section of the US Code to which you are referring. Thanks... Further, that person must be born in the United States. We'll correct you on this one after you source US law on the former...
Thanks... Did you look at the chart? Let's try it again. You need to actually click on the link and a whole new page will open up.
Why can't you answer wars question?
I can, but it's plain as day on the chart, and further explained below. He yawned earlier, so he could be too tired to read it. Maybe you can help him read it.
I can, but it's plain as day on the chart, and further explained below. He yawned earlier, so he could be too tired to read it. Maybe you can help him read it. I read the law months ago when that chart was first created and realized the chart maker is a liar.
Really? Did you challenge him? By what means did you divine it's authenticity? Quija board? Gut feeling? Nevermind. Playing with partisans is fun. No matter what evidence is presented, people have already made up their minds. It's simple really. Provide the Birth Certificate and end the debate.
Nope. They won't listen to me. Reading comprehension. That is funny since I'm not partisan at all. I didn't vote for either of the two parties this last election, except for my Republican congressman, who was in a tight race. And then only to balance out the democrats who I knew would win by a large margin. Man you saying that is pretty funny.
That's not an acceptable form of proof. As you were previously informed....anyone can get that and it doesn't prove where the person was born.
Actually, only the ACTUAL person or a person with power of attorney can "get that". That said, what does that birth certificate3 state where Obama was born?
it's a certification of live birth, as distinguished from a "certificate of live birth" and gives the place of birth as Honolulu, HI.
Cite the statutory language from the Hawaii State Code that, for purposes of establishing place of birth within its jurisdiction, that certificate lacks legal standing to do so. Thanks. That asked, on that form it clearly states that it is a) a certificate b) a true copy or abstract of what is on file and c) valid in any legal proceeding.
Nope; not interested in doing work for you that you should be researching yourself, if you're that interested. It's already been cited on at least one or two threads now. I take it you can read and push buttons...something at which you excel. See ya.
By me, Moonie.
Nope, dummy.
***SIGH*** The Actual US Citizen By Birth Law #214. To: bluegrass (#212) From US COde: Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: (a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof; war posted on 2009-03-06 12:59:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Don't tell me this birther crap goes on here too... Sigh.
I've only been here today but so far it seems Birthier, Truthier, and Jewier than LP was. And all of that just on a thread about LP being offline. ;) You suppose Goldi is just trying to make us miss her? Doesn't she realize just how low our standards really are? I am wondering where some of LP's fixtures are, people like Yukon or Marguerite or Magician or McCain_Rocks. Probably in severe withdrawal, standing in line down at the methadone clinic by now.
I can't remember the last time the LP crack house went down, but certainly a lot of discussion with unknowns could have been a shock for some. You think there should be a birther, Truther, Jewy test? If goldie is the school marm, then, well, no wonder all the new kids are annoying to you. Reality in a free forum can be trying I suppose. But I do understand missing your comfort zone. I guess we're all going to have to get used to heavier chains soon. Aren't you glad you got out for a run now before you are permanently stuck barking at the end of your chain? ;)
;) People need a place to vent. A 'now now' and a 'there there' just wont cut it. Seems the 4um family has been gracious and welcoming.
Yeah, too much so in some cases.
Nah. True class never goes out of style.
I get royally pi$$ed when some numbskull accuses me of lying. I guess the poor fellow can't make out the links I put in the post and thought I just made it up. I didn't write ANY of it, just posted it. And included the links for anyone who wanted to read it. But he is in thrall to Obama. He is so stupid he thinks there is some difference between establishment stooges.
was it War?
Yeah, it was. I put the Obama-loving retard on my bozo filter. I don't appreciate being called a liar by anyone, especially by morons.
very sensible!
Hi Palo, How are you sweetheart? I see we are all posting here now (LP's alter ego) because LP is down. Love, Meguro
What does that mean?
See post #674.
I follow your point, but is that what you really meant?
No, of course not. I was joking. But there are common posters on both sites. Is that just because of the connection with Neil?
Actually, what is it that you think I actually meant?
You really think saying 4um is the alter-ego of LP implied software? If that's really it, then say so. Yes or No is fine.
First please tell me what you mean by "LP implied software" so that I can accurately answer your question.
This is getting a bit stupid. But, why don't you think on it a while and see if you can find where the missing comma would fit.
I'm genuinely stumped. I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.
Thats fine. So, alter-ego means software in your world. I'll just wrap it up there. If you have time, what does Birther, Truther and Jewy mean?
Nope, never said that. Well I did, but it was a joke, son! Ha ha, ... and all that. If you have time, what does Birther, Truther and Jewy mean? Not that I use those terms myself, but I think they mean someone who believes Obama hasn't produced his birth certificate, someone who believes 9/11 was an inside job, and a Jew (although not so sure).
And I knew that but still you just couldn't quite bring youreself to answer up. Whatever. If you have time, what does Birther, Truther and Jewy mean? Not that I use those terms myself, but I think they mean someone who believes Obama hasn't produced his birth certificate, someone who believes 9/11 was an inside job, and a Jew (although not so sure). Well, maybe you can get TooConservative to define Jewy. I don't know what he/she/it means either. As for the first two, what's the problem? Why are those two things so horribly uncomfortable, but somehow torture, genocide, spying of little interest to LP'rs? Too Jewy?
That's Birthier, Truthier and Jewier. Their meaning should be quite obvious. Read this thread again except for the on-topic posts about how the S.S. LibertyPost sunk after hitting that nasty iceberg. I should apply for a copyright to the phrase "Birthier, Truthier and Jewier." Obviously, you find it so memorable, you're even pestering meguro about it. You may not have noticed but meguro didn't exactly greet me with joy. He and I aren't bosom buddies.
Their meaning should be quite obvious. Read this thread again except for the on-topic posts about how the S.S. LibertyPost sunk after hitting that nasty iceberg. I should apply for a copyright to the phrase "Birthier, Truthier and Jewier." Obviously, you find it so memorable, you're even pestering meguro about it. You may not have noticed but meguro didn't exactly greet me with joy. He and I aren't bosom buddies. It's not that catchy in the actual real world I guess. I'll try harder to meet you in yours. You may not have noticed but meguro didn't exactly greet me with joy. He and I aren't bosom buddies. Why would I care? You keep thinking I care about fluff. Stop that. I ask a simple question and get reams of crap I don't need to know. LOL. Fine. What is your favorite color? Happy now? Now, what is too Jewy? And for Gods sake don't tell me about fonts and crap.
Oh? I don't think I was the one quizzing someone else about a third person's earlier remarks, demanding explanations from them for someone else's comments. And in which post did I say "too Jewy"? I certainly don't recall that. Please point me toward any such post by me on this thread or any other here at 4um.
I explained that before, or don't you remember? I didn't demand, I asked if they might know what you meant. F o l l o w T h e D o t s. And in which post did I say "too Jewy"? I certainly don't recall that. Please point me toward any such post by me on this thread or any other here at 4um. It was the third thing mentioned in the snappy phrase you wanted to patent or something. You are having an awful time at answering a simple question. Would you like to forget it and let it be for now? Because I guarantee that I will continue to ask people from LP what TOO JEWY means over there. It upset you, and I need to understand why. Its not that I'm being generous and actually care who this offends, it's that I am curious where such statements find their roots.
You are having an awful time at answering a simple question. Actually, I loaded the full text of this thread to clarify this matter. I originally posted: The first mention of "Jewy" was your own post: The first mention of "Too Jewy" was your own post: Note again, I used these terms in comparison of LP to 4um. I never once said "too Jewy" (since I would not use such an inartful phrase). You are the one who said "Jewy" and "too Jewy" throughout this thread, pretending it was me who said it. You also falsely attributed "Too Truthy" and "Too Birther" as phrases I wrote when you are, in fact, the only one who wrote them. So "Jewy" and "Too Jewy" were not, in fact, my words. They are your words which you wish for some reason to pretend were my words. Then you want to conduct some pointless little witch hunt over why I said those words (which were actually your words) to begin with. Go back and check my posts. You'll find I didn't edit them ex post facto. Senile? Drunk? Confused with your own bullcrap? What, like I should care so much to even want to find out? If you want to ask me what I mean, you'll have to actually read what I wrote and then stop interrogating yourself. And you should stop pestering meguro, not that I'm his White Knight or anything. He had nothing to do with your blatant attempt to put your words in my mouth.
Okay, SEEMS jewier. Not a big difference. But I really like the graphics and boxes and stuff. So, what did you mean by SEEMS JEWIER. It's not a hard question. And for the record, I did apologize to merguro, if you followed the thread and so forth. Again with the dramatics. Blatent attempt to put words in your mouth? I asked a simple question that you just won't answer and still won't. Why? What seems JEWIER??
Macro insertions. I just type '>>lptable' and it instantly creates a formatted bordered HTML table for me and places my cursor at the correct insertion point. I have a couple blockquote styles too. Just something to create a little visual interest beyond bolding/italics. Since Neil wrote both forums' software, the same stuff works both places. 4um seems Jewier than LP. 4um also seems Birthier than LP. Not to mention Truthier than LP. Is that really so difficult to understand? You're the only one who seems to have a problem grasping it. You do understand comparative sentences? You do realize you missed the actual point of my original remark? It was intended to point out how a thread about LP being down was full of Truther/Birther/Jew material which was completely off-topic. The little smiley was intended to convey light humor, well, obviously not too successfully, at least judging by your reaction.
Is that really so difficult to understand? You're the only one who seems to have a problem grasping it. You do understand comparative sentences? Apparently, answering it is impossible for you to explain. It SEEMS JEWIER, and I would like to know how you come to draw that conclusion. Simple. An example, if I say, it seems cloudier today, the common conclusion might be that I think there were less clouds yesterday. Not that there ARE more, but it SEEMS like more. So, if it seems Jewier, what is your frame of reference? Smiley or not, the humor is lost unless we can share the presumed joke.
My observation thus far has been not ven close...in fact, anti-Jewier would be a more apt description.
Not anti-Jewier. Or pro-Jewier. Just Jewier. Generically more focused on Jews and Israel, whether for or against. I wouldn't have bothered to explain but I've observed you are generally a good reader. I didn't bother before since Cynicom is an obvious quote mangler. I would think it would be obvious since this is a thread about LP's outage and in about 900 posts, only 60-70 were actually about LP and the rest were Jewy/Birthy/Truthy. Although LP certainly had Jewy and Birthy and even some Truthy threads over time, it was not quite to the extext I observed here in a single day of reading articles. Of course, I haven't seen anything here like a Biker Bar so certain articles don't migrate to a back room as you often see in other forums. From a forum management perspective, this can be a plus or a minus in terms of segregation of topics, how casual posters or lurkers perceive the forum, whether you make some lib group's hate site list, or just in having a variety of topics that are representative of the forum's variety of opinion in a limited sidebar space.
I like it here. Us normal folk can feel comfortable any where. So thus should Moonbats...
Seems pleasant enough, a bit of difference in the forum software. LP had sub-forums though those weren't like the ones at FR. LP had no 'private' mail, FR and 4um do (I consider that to be a minus for many reasons). LP had no homepages/bookmarks and 4um and FR do.
These are nice features... But at FR, the hyenas and jackals used Private Mail as a tool to gang-bang and cannibalize those who opposed The Cult-of-Bush, or those who had/have the "gall" to go against the grain of the consensus. Personally, I prefer divergent views instead of an echo-chamber, but then again, the OCD-parrots can be annoying.
I registered at FR in 2000, I think it was, but did not post there very often. It seemed to me to be a venue in which all of the kids who through the years had been denied a place at the Kewel Kids table or had been pummelled in dodgeball decided to congregate to plot their revenge. Kind of an everted Lord of the Flies. Oddly, enough, I wasn't banned there until a couple of years ago when some Dick tried to engage me in a cross forum war. And, fwiw, in my direct dealings with JR he was reasonable and a gentleman.
I have to agree with blue, anyone that knew RimJob and paid attention could not but help coming away with the knowledge that he was a con artist at best. Robinson conned hundreds of people, so you are not alone.
To be fair to JR, my dealing with him was to a) have personal information and libel about me removed from a profile and b) to avoid a cross forum war.
Rather my point. JR is selective in who he helps. It makes me distrust you even more that you claim friendly relations with the bastard.
We had a one day exchange over a specific non political situation and, trust me when I tell you this, I am trustworthy.
Your bootlicking tendencies are what fuel my initial distrust. I now have to go retrieve my property (car) from thieves (cops-government-towing yard). They claim I can have it back if I give them many FRNs. Fascism is indeed the merging of the state and the incorporated entity.
ROFLMAO... Bootlicking...Batlicking...we're products of the same environment...
Obviously not. You still put faith and trust in various governing schemes and scams.
Goldi Would you come over to 4um and pick up your LP trash that have been over there bad mouthing you???? I have a list if you like? Cyni... Cynicom posted on 2009-03-23 13:07:17 ET Reply Trace
Who is on the list!
Sorry, not free to say, I passed the list via email.
Ah, compiling lists of enemies, dossiers of damaging statements, sending them along to the "proper authorities"... Why, it's a veritable Springtime For Nixon. Would you care to take this opportunity to remind us all again of how 4um is a forum entirely free of thread-nannies and tattlers?
This one was until you arrived with your anti semetic flag waving. You did serve a useful purpose of some value, those reading my words took heed. Not you, your jewishessier or whatever is belied by your running to Goldie. What a class act.
In your addled dreams. I saw that a few hours without me posting, you turned on nooz. My what? LOL.
Too... report some anti whatever to goldie like a good little boy... By your own admission. what a sorry person you are indeed. It is fortunate for you that ELPee will tolerate you.
You mean when I flagged Goldi to notify her that the troll Mrs. Yukon was posting St*rmfr*nt threads? Of course I did. That was only one of the really offensive threads "she" posted. She was an obvious disruptor. BTW, it was Mrs. Yukon who seemed to be luring us over to 4um with her remark, "Freedom4um is better than LP". Check that same thread and see for yourself.
I find it rather amusing that you have not a clue as to what a Jew is, a man that runs and tattles every time he senses anti semitism, yet he performs more like a programmed robot than a goy. When you have time, do try to enlighten yourself as to what constitutes a present day Jew, until then nothing you say makes any sense. as a starter ask goldie if she is Jew by race or culture or religion. I did long ago. You might learn something. loser
I thought you had already publicly declared me to be a Real Live Jew. On the basis of your recommendation, I'm on the fast track to join LP's ultra-elite Jew Club. Mad Dog says all I have to do is learn the secret handshakes. Uh...right.
You are, a cultural Jew that whines anti semitism at every turn of the wheel.. Recall YOU brought up the subject, no one here. Doesnt it just chap your Kibbutz when there is no one to whine to??? Sniveling wont work either. Loser
#1064. To: Cynicom (#1061)
But you just posted at LP that all Jews are cultural Jews, that race was somehow irrelevant. I know consistency is a hobgoblin of small minds but you seem to be charting new horizons in hobgobling.
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#8. To: sneakypete (#4)
Or it could just be that she got tired of putting up with all the crap,and just pulled the plug.
#22. To: Cynicom (#8)
Crap????
#25. To: sneakypete (#22)
I guess it's all in the viewpoint. I see more Jew haters calling her names than I see Jews sniveling about anti-Semites.
#28. To: Cynicom (#25)
I can go on LP and demand we nuke the Arab world, and not ONE WORD of disapproval, from anyone, not one.
#33. To: sneakypete (#28)
I think that unless the NWO does take over we will eventually end up nuking several Muslim countries. It is inevitable that sooner or later some fundie Muslim group or another is going to get their hands on a nuke or a bio weapon,and use it to attack a major US city.
#76. To: Critter (#33)
Do you still buy the lie that fundie muzzies hit us on 9/11 without Bush's help?
#78. To: F16Fighter (#76)
complicity by purposeful neglect
#85. To: sneakypete (#78)
Ahhhh,but purposeful neglect is NOT the same thing as "being behind it".
#127. To: F16Fighter, sneakypete (#85)
I don't think they made any real effort to stop any potential attack,but that's not the same thing as saying they planned or encouraged one.
#137. To: Critter (#127)
And even if you can't see the physical impossibility of collapse by fire, you have to be able to see that no plane is going to fly into DC air space unidentified and unintercepted, without inside top level complicity.
#149. To: christine (#137)
And even if you can't see the physical impossibility of collapse by fire, you have to be able to see that no plane is going to fly into DC air space unidentified and unintercepted, without inside top level complicity.
#163. To: tom007 (#149)
#196. To: Rhino369 (#163)
silly conspiracy theories take away from learning the real truth
#223. To: sneakypete (#196)
Not only that,but those same conspiracy theories are LOVED by the government because it allows them to dismiss any questions about their conduct as being linked to "those insane conspiracy freaks".
For example *I* am the one that started the conspiracy theory Hillary Clinton being behind the crash of JFK Jr's airplane and his death. I started this rumor on FR and used the fact that he had been talking about running for the same Senate seat ("his" family Senate seat) that she was running for,and this is the reason she had a had the airplane rigged to crash. Within a hour this was accepted as the gospel,and I was being called a DNC shill for saying it was made up,and a liar for saying I was the one who made it up. DESPITE the fact that the proof I was the one who made it up was right there on that very thread!
#240. To: Rhino369 (#223)
.....it pains me to see you buy the conspiracy theory about Obama being born in Kenya.
#253. To: sneakypete (#240)
What I DO believe because it is an established FACT is that he was adopted by his step father and became an Indonesian citizen. Part of this process was rejecting his American citizenship. Despite what the Barry-Bots claim,his mother had the legal right to denounce his US citizeship.
I also know he travled to Pakistan as a Indonesian citizen as an adult,and his name was Barry Soetoro at the time. I also know there has been no explanation whatsoever about how or when he changed his name and obtained US citizenship again.
#268. To: Rhino369 (#253)
Its not debatable, a mother cannot denounce US Citizenship. It is also not established he was adopted.
#274. To: sneakypete (#268)
Because Americans weren't allowed to travel to Pakistan then as tourists.
Because that is his name on the roster of the elementary school he went to in Indonesia.
#347. To: Rhino369 (#274)
Yes, school documentation from 1970's Indonesia is obviously much more official than Hawaiian certificates of live birth.
#352. To: James Deffenbach (#347)
The State of Hawaii, statute 338, allows foreign born children of Hawaiian residents to get a Hawaiian birth certificate.
Mr. Obama has never presented any corroborating evidence that he was actually born in Hawaii. His paternal grandmother in Kenya and the ambassador of Kenya made statements that he was born in Kenya.
The image that Mr. Obama has posted on the Internet was not a valid birth certificate, but rather a limited value document, called Short Version Certification of Live Birth. The Certification of Live Birth does not name a hospital, name a doctor, have any signatures or a seal of the Hawaiian Health Department on the front of the document. This document is usually given to parties that don't have a proper hospital birth certificate and it is given based on a statement of one relative only. Even the state of Hawaii doesn't give full credit to these documents.
#369. To: Rhino369 (#352)
The document Obama has shown is just as legal as any birth certificate in the nation. He can use it to get a drivers license, passport, social security card, anything.
#376. To: James Deffenbach (#369)
#388. To: Rhino369 (#376)
You can use the exact document Obama has to get a passport.
#393. To: Rotara (#388)
#397. To: Rhino369 (#393)
#407. To: Rotara (#397)
Are you saying that the requirements for acquiring a passport are the same for becoming preznit ?
#411. To: Rhino369 (#407)
Be a natural born US citizen
#414. To: bluegrass (#411)
#434. To: Rhino369 (#414)
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn.htm
#447. To: nooz (#434)
To be a natural born citizen, a person's parents must BOTH be citizens of the United States of America.
#464. To: war (#447)
Please cite the Title, Chapter and Section of the US Code to which you are referring.
#466. To: nooz, war (#464)
#471. To: Rhino369 (#466)
Why can't you answer wars question?
#474. To: nooz (#471)
#481. To: Rhino369 (#474)
I read the law months ago when that chart was first created and realized the chart maker is a liar.
#483. To: nooz (#481)
Really? Did you challenge him?
By what means did you divine it's authenticity? Quija board? Gut feeling?
Nevermind. Playing with partisans is fun.
No matter what evidence is presented, people have already made up their minds. It's simple really.
Provide the Birth Certificate and end the debate.
#485. To: Rhino369 (#483)
#557. To: litus (#485)
As you were previously informed....anyone can get that and it doesn't prove where the person was born.
#558. To: war (#557)
#562. To: litus (#558)
it's a certification of live birth, as distinguished from a "certificate of live birth" and gives the place of birth as Honolulu, HI.
#571. To: war (#562)
#577. To: litus (#571)
It's already been cited on at least one or two threads now.
#580. To: war (#577)
#588. To: litus (#580)
Nope, dummy.
#603. To: war (#588)
#606. To: meguro (#603)
#608. To: TooConservative (#606)
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I've only been here today but so far it seems Birthier, Truthier, and Jewier than LP was.
#609. To: nooz (#608)
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#610. To: James Deffenbach (#609)
#613. To: nooz (#610)
Seems the 4um family has been gracious and welcoming.
#616. To: James Deffenbach (#613)
Yeah, too much so in some cases.
#619. To: nooz (#616)
#634. To: James Deffenbach (#619)
I get royally pi$$ed when some numbskull accuses me of lying.
yes War and I are dear friends because I have been on forums with him since my very first one
back at Y2K (Lucianne)
and he has redeeming qualities
but you do realize he is only on forums to drive posters up the wall
he has no other purpose for being on
all his posts are designed to do that
our friendship not withstanding, his political posts to me are designed to drive me up the wall too
he had already left LP few months ago on his own, I don't know when he arrived here
but he is hardly a typical LP poster, since his purpose is to drive us nuts :)
Yes I love him, and yes he has friends on LP
but that is because sometimes he breaks out of his "pest" role to engage in normal friendly discourse
he is a nice guy
but obviously there is no way to see it when he is posting for the express purpose of upsetting everyone
Love, Palo
#638. To: palo verde (#634)
was it War?
#646. To: James Deffenbach (#638)
I put him on my bozo filter
a bozo filter is designed to protect your peace
and after 9 years he is really expert at ruining it :)
if he is still on 4um at football season you can take him off then
he is passionate about football and posts sincerely
Love, Palo
#651. To: palo verde (#646)
very sensible! a bozo filter is designed to protect your peace and after 9 years he is really expert at ruining it :) if he is still on 4um at football season you can take him off then he is passionate about football and posts sincerely Love, Palo
#655. To: meguro (#651)
I see we are all posting here now (LP's alter ego)
#686. To: nooz (#655)
What does that mean?
#702. To: meguro (#686)
See post #674.
#716. To: nooz (#702)
I follow your point, but is that what you really meant?
#721. To: nooz (#716)
I follow your point, but is that what you really meant?
#730. To: meguro (#721)
Actually, what is it that you think I actually meant?
#733. To: nooz (#730)
You really think saying 4um is the alter-ego of LP implied software?
#749. To: meguro (#733)
First please tell me what you mean by "LP implied software" so that I can accurately answer your question.
#752. To: nooz (#749)
But, why don't you think on it a while and see if you can find where the missing comma would fit.
#757. To: meguro (#752)
I'm genuinely stumped. I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.
#761. To: nooz (#757)
Thats fine. So, alter-ego means software in your world. I'll just wrap it up there.
#770. To: meguro (#761)
Well I did, but it was a joke, son! Ha ha, ... and all that.
#781. To: nooz (#770)
If you have time, what does Birther, Truther and Jewy mean?
#790. To: TooConservative (#781)
That's Birthier, Truthier and Jewier.
#798. To: nooz, meguro (#790)
Why would I care? You keep thinking I care about fluff. Stop that.
Happy now? Now, what is too Jewy?
#803. To: TooConservative (#798)
Oh? I don't think I was the one quizzing someone else about a third person's earlier remarks, demanding explanations from them for someone else's comments.
#809. To: nooz, meguro (#803)
It was the third thing mentioned in the snappy phrase you wanted to patent or something.
I've only been here today but so far it seems Birthier, Truthier, and Jewier than LP was. And all of that just on a thread about LP being offline. ;) "You think there should be a birther, Truther, Jewy test?" "Too Jewy, Too Truthy, Too Birther. Pretty much your words."
#814. To: TooConservative (#809)
#817. To: nooz (#814)
Okay, SEEMS jewier. Not a big difference. But I really like the graphics and boxes and stuff.
What seems JEWIER??
I've only been here today but so far it seems Birthier, Truthier, and Jewier than LP was. And all of that just on a thread about LP being offline. ;)
#848. To: TooConservative (#817)
4um seems Jewier than LP. 4um also seems Birthier than LP. Not to mention Truthier than LP.
#858. To: nooz, TooConservative (#848)
4um seems Jewier than LP.
#872. To: war, Cynicom (#858)
My observation thus far has been not even close...in fact, anti-Jewier would be a more apt description.
#889. To: TooConservative (#872)
#894. To: war (#889)
I like it here. Us normal folk can feel comfortable any where.
#908. To: TooConservative, war (#894)
LP had no 'private' mail, FR and 4um do (I consider that to be a minus for many reasons). LP had no homepages/bookmarks and 4um and FR do.
#917. To: F16Fighter, TooConservative (#908)
But at FR, the hyenas and jackals used Private Mail as a tool to gang-bang and cannibalize those who opposed The Cult-of-Bush, or those who had/have the "gall" to go against the grain of the consensus.
#922. To: war, bluegrass (#917)
And, fwiw, in my direct dealings with JR he was reasonable and a gentleman.
#927. To: Cynicom, bluegrass (#922)
#936. To: war, Cynicom (#927)
To be fair to JR, my dealing with him was to a) have personal information and libel about me removed from a profile and b) to avoid a cross forum war.
#940. To: bluegrass (#936)
#946. To: war (#940)
#948. To: bluegrass (#946)
Your bootlicking tendencies are what fuel my initial distrust.
#952. To: war (#948)
we're products of the same environment...
#954. To: bluegrass, all (#952)
"15. To: Goldi (#14)
#956. To: Cynicom (#954)
#993. To: Rhino369 (#956)
Who is on the list!
#1046. To: Cynicom, Rhino369 (#993)
Sorry, not free to say, I passed the list via email.
#1048. To: TooConservative (#1046)
Would you care to take this opportunity to remind us all again of how 4um is a forum entirely free of thread-nannies and tattlers?
#1052. To: Cynicom (#1048)
You did serve a useful purpose of some value, those reading my words took heed.
your jewishessier
#1053. To: TooConservative (#1052)
#1057. To: Cynicom (#1053)
report some anti whatever to goldie like a good little boy...
#1059. To: TooConservative (#1057)
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#1060. To: Cynicom (#1059)
When you have time, do try to enlighten yourself as to what constitutes a present day Jew, ...
... until then nothing you say makes any sense.
#1061. To: TooConservative (#1060)
Real Live Jew
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