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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
Author: m e
Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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Officer Jack McLamb's shows:
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#1116. To: Rotara (#1115)
Mostly due to structural failure.
I wasn't but used a different handle. Didn't post that much, there were some very odd posters there and they clearly didn't respect privacy. Oh? I didn't know there was such a rule at LP. Seems strange so many of us were over here during the outage if that is uniform policy at LP. You know, those Klowns could be wildly funny. I always think of the FR cruise thread. The posts. The pictures! Oh, Lordy.
you have 4mail
It was the reason Goldi gave when she was asked about it. She stated falsely that I had announced I was posting over here. I made no such announcement. Yukon was the one who made an issue of my last post at LP. It was deleted. His betrayal will never be forgiven!
Take a viagra and log on later. LOL ;-)
Hi , All I've missed all the drama, being away :) Marguerite Such a kind hearted soul she is, eh?
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
The "law" is just legal plunder now. You're no more than another mere asskisser of the "law". If you're happy and you know it, clank your chains.
I paid attention to the signs. I got ticketed anyway. When paying the extortion money to the city today, the slave behind the city's collection desk was an acquaintance I hadn't seen in a number of years. The number kept changing from $140 to $170 and then he settled on $185. In a civil and polite voice, I asked, "Jim, you seem like a nice guy. Why do you work for an extortion outfit like this?" He got a little testy and said, "We can't discuss this" and then refused to talk to me any further. I wrote down Frederic Bastiat's name and the title of his book, "The Law" and asked him if he'd ever heard the term 'legal plunder' before. He took the slip of paper. I hope the poor little slave reads the book. Name one thing that the government does that improves our lives. I bet you can't come up with even one.
Excellent. Your conditioning was a resounding success. They sure had you thinking about Muslims for while.
My best online friend is BluesDuke and guess what, he is Jewish.. so I guess she is all wet..
And I was booted from Trixies Site, for being a Friend of Pat Buchanan and working for Pat/against Bush's Election.. Guess I called that one right :-()
Actually in an elastic collision kinetic energy is NOT conserved. That is the defining characteristic of one. You have it reversed. It is an INELASTIC collision that the kinetic energy is NOT conserved. In an elastic collision kinetic energy IS conserved. The equation for kinetic energy in an elastic collision is as follows; It wouldn't make any sense for an inelastic collision to conserve kinetic energy, as by definition an inelastic collision is one which kinetic energy is transferred to other forms. Since it took energy to pulverize the structure, the collision was inelastic as the energy was transferred to the pulverization process, and also in the way of heat. The video shows that the top floors stayed in tact at least most of the way down. You are kidding yourself. The top part of the structure started to pulverize even BEFORE it fell past the damaged section. Post a video that shows anything other than what I just said. Additionally, since the loss of a large amount of the structure caused by the pulverization presented a lower mass in terms of momentum, and the lower UNDAMAGED structure was not a free standing object in a closed system but a rigid structure resting upon an immovable surface (hence being acted upon by an external force), the idea of momentum goes out the door as well.
I wonder how many Palestinian children she's murdered, and whether or not she had a smile on her face while pulling the trigger.
it's true that I have a low tolerance for fools. Guess I stepped on your toes at one time or another,huh? Did I call for you to be banned?
Well,one thing I think everybody will agree on is that it is MUCH better to be a real live Jew than to be a real dead Jew.
There isn't and never has been. I've been registered and have posted at both sites ever since they started up and have never been banned from either. In fact,Cynicom was posting on LP last night. Since he openly hates Goldi AND LP he would have been banned on LP long ago if there were such a policy.
Take a viagra and log on later. LOL ;-) "log" on?????? Are you flirting with him?
Are you calling me a liar? I made no such announcement!!! Nor was I "trolling for members!" Here is the banning post from FR just for good measure. And fuck you for insinuating I was lying!
Wow. I didn't realize quite the extent these forums are private clubs.
WRONG MORON he wrote that he had read that the free fall speeds VARIED from 8- 18 seconds. He said that the MINIMUM TIME would have been 9.1 seconds. The collapse times of each of the two WTC towers are very important parameters in the estimation of the energy transfer involved in these events. In this report we define the collapse time, tc, as the observed time interval for more than 95 % of the mass of the WTC tower (WTC 1 or 2) to fall to “ground zero”. This, of course, requires a definition of the start of the collapse. Because of uncertainties in the timing of the WTC collapseinitiating and terminating events, many different values of tc have been reported; however, the published values (I have seen) all fall in the range 8 – 18 seconds. In addition, Newtonian mechanics dictates a minimum value for the collapse time, tc, which is calculated, (allowing for the thickness of each floor), as followsf82;:tc = h54;(2h/g) = h54;{2(416 f85;10)/9.81} = 9.1 seconds f82; The calculations included in this report are based on well-documented values for the WTC height, weight and other building specifications as listed in Appendix 1. ~snip~ You've displayed a stupidity that is rapidly becoming BOUNDLESS.
Post an analysis of the WTC dust as I did. Thanks...
You have yet to show me anything other than how stupid people ***think***. IN point of fact, none of you have. You are ALL, to a man [and possibly woman[ Moonbats. At every turn with every aspect of yout "theory" you have been show that all of what you believe, think and promote has 0 basis in fact. Yet, two posts later, you are promoting the same corrupt nonsense. Let's cut to the chase here. What do YOU believe happened that day and there had better be links to HARD evidence not smoke and mirrors?
They all seem to have their rivals. I've always posted on several forums at a time. I currently post on 4 or 5.
Until Goldi either enforces her rules or eliminates them my contributions will be next to nothing. This isn't a gun to her head. This is me standing by my principles.
I appreciate you "explaining" me sweetie; however, in this case I am 199% standing by my claim that this guy is a liar.
Roads.
At every turn with every aspect of yout "theory" you have been show that all of what you believe, think and promote has 0 basis in fact. Yet, two posts later, you are promoting the same corrupt nonsense. And you are a fucking liar. I HAD thought you to be an ok person in my earlier days on LP, but I think your little rivalry with Badeye was just for show. For all I know, you are him, and posted back and forth to yourself in order to earn your paycheck. You are a clueless idiot who DOES NOT understand simple facts and obvious impossiblities, you rely on magical thinking to form your worldview and spit out whatever bullshit you feel like if you think it will help your cause. Let's cut to the chase here. What do YOU believe happened that day and there had better be links to HARD evidence not smoke and mirrors? It is a physical impossibility for the towers to have collapsed the way they did without help from some type of explosive. It is impossible that people who are still alive piloted the planes into those buildings. And there is NO evidence that those people boarded the planes. Hell, you can't even find a real flight manifest, yet you are acting as if you've presented factual data and solid scientific proof. You have posted NOTHING of relevence, and have resorted to ad hominem to "make your case". You are a fucking shill.
At the time, Goldi was having a bad hair day apparently and had banned several old time posters for daring to speak about Ron Paul. She banned anyone who "was recruiting for another forum", farmfriend mentioned 4um, and was banned shortly afterwards.
Well asswipe, I didn't have time to do anything other than quickly glance at the report, saw what I thought it said, and gave my opinion. At least I'll admit I was wrong. I've yet to fully read it, I'll get back to you when I do. So when will you ever admit YOU ARE wrong, eh war?
Here's one for you to ponder; Now explain to everyone how a dust cloud can cause an intact floor to collapse, as the upper structure was pulverized into dust as it collapsed, leaving very little mass to actualy impact the lower floors. BTW, do you have calculations as to how much energy would be required to cause an entire floor to fail instantaneously by impact? There would be VERY little energy left over after the pulverization of an upper floor as it impacts a lower floor, and the lower floor must be caused to fail by the remaining energy if the "pancake" theory can be taken seriously. So go ahead, give us the equations and the details.
I do whan I am. There are two instances on this board so far. Well asswipe, I didn't have time to do anything other than quickly glance at the report, saw what I thought it said, and gave my opinion. So, by your own admission, you "quickly glanced" but decided to rant away anyway. That speakes volumes, dude.
I don't like it if I feel I'm the resident of some plantation. OTOH, I do grasp that disruptors will sometimes try to ruin another forum or poach posters from another forum. So if I were a mod or forum owner and saw that happening, I would warn them and then ban them. People act as though only forum owners are ever sneaky and snarky or underhanded or operating from false motives. It's the posters that are by far the worst. The forum owners generally have a fairly moderate attitude until some disruptors or persons with bad motives start trolling or poaching their forum. For instance, if I came over here and said nasty stuff about Goldi, I wouldn't expect to be welcome any more at LP. Same for FR and for Freedom4um. Free speech isn't the right to bite the hand that feeds you. And donations to these forums are not the purchase of a service which grants you any rights unless that is what they state explicitly. There's always a tug-of-war over moderation, wannabe mods, trolls, poachers, Klownish types, donors who think someone owes someone something, those who play tricks with private messaging, etc. Being a forum owner or mod isn't quite so easy as some people think. It's like herding cats. Real sneaky bloodthirsty cats. :)
Geezus fucking Crickets... The "top structure" was NOT "pulverized"...what WAS pulverized was concrete, glass, people and drywall... BTW, do you have calculations as to how much energy would be required to cause an entire floor to fail instantaneously by impact? dude...did you even GLANCE atthat report?
I admitted that I was wrong on that ONE point concerning the statement I thought had been made in the report you linked. That's infinitely more than anything you do, you simply ignore any facts posted and toss out ad hominem comments since you can't refute those facts.
The "top structure" was NOT "pulverized"...what WAS pulverized was concrete, glass, people and drywall... Are you retarded? You contradict yourself within the same sentence. That "concrete, glass, and drywall..." along with furniture and office equipment had WEIGHT, in fact, MOST of the weight of any particular floor. The steel columns are a mystery as they should have remained standing even WITH a "pancake" collapse. In fact, the core could not collapse per se, it would have needed to have been shredded and torn apart for it to totally fail. Anyways, what kinetic energy there was due to the momentum of the upper structure was largely expended in pulverizing the upper structure to dust, where there could have been very little kinetic energy left to break all the trusses and supports of the floor below
Goldi got rid of pretty much anyone that didn't tow the pro-zionist line and who actively refuted it. I was initially banned for not cheering the bloodlust celebrations over the Israeli attacks on Lebanon, and the deaths of several UN observers due to an Israeli attack on their position. She used a BS excuse where I had told liberator to be careful what he was saying, as he had called for the assassination of the UN Secretary General. She claimed that I was threatening to turn him in where I hadn't, as was obvious to anyone who was reading that thread. In regards to Ron Paul supporters, she was banning them as quickly as Robinson and his mods "ZOT" new members who don't kiss the ass of the RNC.
How do you propose the government faked the collapse? Planting explosives on every floor and blowing them up one by one in perfect order as the towers fell?
Damn, that's mean. Turning it all the way to eleven...you're a bastard, war.
The collapse certainly wasn't faked, the buildings WERE destroyed. However, the impact of the airliners was just for show, the REAL cause of the demolition was something else. That explosives were never even CONSIDERED by the government indicates they have something to hide, as terrorists are no strangers to explosives and had in fact tried to plant explosives in the WTC back in 1993. Oddly, the person who planted that explosive was an FBI informant. Any reasonable analysis would HAVE to include explosives, yet from the very start people who suggested that area be investigated were called "conspiracy nuts". That strikes me as a coverup, and then you need to ask yourself, why would they cover that up? Of course, only those with something to hide need to coverup anything... As far as your question concerning how it was done, and your theory of planting explosives in every floor, it would only need to be done every 10 floors, but every floor isn't impossible either. And since the core disappeared where it should have remained standing, it's not impossible for some classified weapon to have vaporized it, AND for high explosives planted in critical areas to cause the rest of the structure to collapse as it did.
The new ones go up to 12...
In other words, despite the voluminous evidence that you have been shown that your beliefs have no basis in fact, you cling to them like a baby to a blankey... And since the core disappeared The core was cement...
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#1117. To: farmfriend (#1112)
They also had fits over Clown Posse. I was booted off FR, as were many others, for posting over there.
I was booted off LP for posting over here.
#1118. To: TooConservative (#1111)
#1119. To: TooConservative (#1117)
Oh? I didn't know there was such a rule at LP.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#1120. To: wudidiz (#1116)
Mostly due to structural failure.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#1121. To: Rotara (#1091)
I strongly doubt that any poster loves Jews at 4umdumdum :)
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#1122. To: war (#958)
The law is what it is.
#1123. To: war (#963)
#1124. To: TooConservative (#1101)
Jews rarely enter my thinking much.
#1125. To: IndieTX (#1121)
I strongly doubt that any poster loves Jews at 4umdumdum :)
#1126. To: farmfriend, TooConservative, rotara (#1112)
Ignoring their other faults, at least the freepers never spent their time obsessing over Luciane's old forum.
#1127. To: Rhino369 (#1051)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1128. To: IndieTX (#1121)
Such a kind hearted soul she is, eh?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1129. To: honway (#1047)
When confronted with facts that challenge your emotion based world view , you often respond with emotional rants that include name calling and attacks against the character of the individuals you disagree with.
#1130. To: TooConservative, Cynicom (#1060)
I thought you had already publicly declared me to be a Real Live Jew.
#1131. To: TooConservative, Cynicom, farmfriend (#1117)
I was booted off LP for posting over here. Oh? I didn't know there was such a rule at LP.
#1132. To: Rotara, wudidiz (#1120)
Mostly due to structural failure.
#1133. To: sneakypete, TooConservative, Cynicom, rotara, twentytwelve (#1131)
There isn't and never has been.
FF was banned for trolling for members for another forum after announcing she was leaving to go there. (She likely only was another day or so here. Damage control.)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#1134. To: farmfriend (#1119)
It was the reason Goldi gave when she was asked about it. She stated falsely that I had announced I was posting over here. I made no such announcement. Yukon was the one who made an issue of my last post at LP. It was deleted. His betrayal will never be forgiven!
#1135. To: FormerLurker (#990)
The report you link stated that it would have been possible for the WTC to collapse by "pancaking" in 8 seconds
#1136. To: FormerLurker (#992)
Anyways, the collapse photos most certainly show the majority of the upper structure being pulverized and ejected sideways.
#1137. To: FormerLurker (#992)
You have been a nasty mouthed little troll here war, I thought higher of you back on LP. Do you always resort to that sort of tactic when you are shown to be wrong?
#1138. To: TooConservative (#1134)
Wow. I didn't realize quite the extent these forums are private clubs.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#1139. To: sneakypete (#1035)
I like it over there. Does this mean you won't be going back and I can't pick on you about Acting President Soetoro?
#1140. To: palo verde, James Deffenbach (#1062)
I think the trick with War is not to take it personally because he doesn't mean it personally
#1141. To: bluegrass (#1123)
Name one thing that the government does that improves our lives.
#1142. To: war (#1137)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1143. To: sneakypete, farmfriend, TooConservative, Cynicom (#1131)
There isn't and never has been.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1144. To: war (#1135)
WRONG MORON he wrote that he had read that the free fall speeds VARIED from 8- 18 seconds. He said that the MINIMUM TIME would have been 9.1 seconds.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1145. To: war (#1136)
Post an analysis of the WTC dust as I did.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1146. To: FormerLurker (#1144)
So when will you ever admit YOU ARE wrong, eh war?
#1147. To: FormerLurker, christine (#1143)
#1148. To: FormerLurker (#1145)
Now explain to everyone how a dust cloud can cause an intact floor to collapse, as the upper structure was pulverized into dust as it collapsed, leaving very little mass to actualy impact the lower floors.
#1149. To: war (#1146)
So, by your own admission, you "quickly glanced" but decided to rant away anyway.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1150. To: war (#1148)
The "top structure" was NOT "pulverized"...what WAS pulverized was concrete, glass, people and drywall...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1151. To: TooConservative, F16Fighter (#1147)
(Edited)
The forum owners generally have a fairly moderate attitude until some disruptors or persons with bad motives start trolling or poaching their forum.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1152. To: FormerLurker (#1150)
#1153. To: war (#1146)
#1154. To: Rhino369 (#1152)
How do you propose the government faked the collapse? Planting explosives on every floor and blowing them up one by one in perfect order as the towers fell?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1155. To: TooConservative (#1153)
Damn, that's mean. Turning it all the way to eleven...you're a bastard, war.
#1156. To: FormerLurker (#1154)
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