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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
Author: m e
Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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#1235. To: farmfriend (#1230)
Okay...apparently Goldi did several stealth bannings which she made a good job of doing - if this email I just got is correct, and I have no doubt but to believe it, then she really went after Paul supporters over a number of months beginning in late '07. I was wholly unaware of this; otherwise, I would have protested. Apology accepted?
You're out of your mind...what happens when you try to stack too much of something on top of each other?
I honestly don't remember. But, I was a fervent Ron Paul supporter. My last few posts were on the thread titled "Time for disobedience on LP: He Who Must Not Be Named". I and the thread were deleted after numerous posts and virtual shouting/posturing/bravado ;-)
_________________________________________________________________________ OH yes. No harm done. FWIW, I was not a Paul supporter at the time. She was purging some of the anti Jewish posters as well. I'm hardly anti Jewish since I married into a Jewish family but it was my association with one that did it.
You just had to ask, didn't you? LOL.
I was banned in the beginning of June 07.
I do remember seeing that and I just searched your name over there..your last post called for "Civil disobedience". Cracked me up... Anyway, I'm not all that comfoprtable talking about another forum here. I have nothing against Goldi and I enjoyed 99.44% of my time there...although, the stealth bannings trouble me. But it is also a symptom of why I left as a regular poster: Selevctive Enforcement.
Okay kewel... AS for your other...as I mentioned, I know that she made Brian S gone for that reason.
[wink]
In other words, despite the voluminous evidence that you have been shown that your beliefs have no basis in fact, you cling to them like a baby to a blankey... You've done a lot of bloviating, posturing, and name calling, but posted nothing in the way of real evidence. The core was cement... You are wrong. It was a steel column core reinforced with concrete. I already posted the image of the actual core under contruction for you, so you are flat out lying. Here's a few more for you... If you stack cans on top of each other, nothing happens unless you push them over. Are you retarded?
ehehe
Certainly not surprised to hear that.
LOL bitch
Neil McIver took a stand for Ron Paul there I believe. Then he drank the Obamessiah Kool Aid shortly thereafter iirc. ;-)
Oh and BTW, the WTC towers were not just a bunch of stacked cans, they were rigid structures. There would have virtually no loss of lateral strength anyways due to the minimal damage to the exterior columns, yet it wouldn't have mattered if there WAS a total loss of lateral strength (which would be impossible due to the construction of the buildings themselves). There were no hurricane force winds that day, and even if there had been, there was no overall loss of lateral strength as the purpose of the exterior walls was to DISTRIBUTE the lateral load across the entire building, and a missing section of column would not affect that.
Not when the links between the two support structures failed...
And I am really silly for even questioning the convenient little fairy tale that they had ready to feed everyone, immediately after the event after having done absolutely no investigation. And I am really nitpicking when I point out that the investigation wasn't even started until 8 months after the incident when all the evidence had been conveneniently destroyed. And during that investigation (the 9/11 Commission) not one firefighter, police officer or security personnell who was actually there was interviewed. Oh yes, I am completely paranoid for even suggesting that the elite could possibly have envisioned such an operation, much less carry it out. Even though Project for a New American Centery published a document clearly outlining exactly what they were planning on doing and explained the need for a catalysing event such as a new pearl harbor to get the people to go along with it. I really should wake up and realize that Muslim terrorists are the ones to blame here, and invading Afghanistan and Iraq was the only logical reaction to this event. I mean how else can we secure our safety and freedom? Dropping bombs on innocent people is really the only way we can ensure the safety of the homeland. ~ David
"I'm curious, what are firefighters and police, who either died in the collapse or never made it into the building, going to be able to tell you?" How is it your curiosity doesn't encompass simply checking something before you unsuccessfully attempt to convince us there is a link between you opening your mouth and any brain activity whatsoever? Let me assist you with your intellectual laziness, here is what they DID say: [A rich vein of city records from Sept. 11, including more than 12,000 pages of oral histories rendered in the voices of 503 firefighters, paramedics, and emergency medical technicians, were made public on Aug. 12, 2005. The New York Times has published all of them after having to go to court with the victim's families to have them released....] Should you feel the desire at some point to actually deal with nasty little details such as facts, then by all means please read the following essay which is the absolute best challenge to the official version available: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1846 Before you actually bother responding with empty rhetoric please consider that you are dealing with someone who has actually downloaded and read (more than once) both the 9/11 commission report and the NIST Final Report and found them lacking, which is something the proponents of the official version seem to not have bothered with. Why bother with both sides of the story when you can simply repeat what Fox News or CNN have to say, and immediately blend in with millions of other idiots... There is comfort in numbers obviously. And please stop with the "nasty Muslims who hate us because they hate our freedoms" foolishness. ~ Darran
Huh? There was a relative pinhole in the exterior wall, and the inner steel core was ALSO still there. There are also apparently some huge inaccuracies concerning the makeup of the floors themselves, where rather than flimsy trusses it appears that there were steel girders bridging the gap between the core and the outer walls. I need to read up on that before I post the actual article, but your post makes zero sense, there was no horizontal failure or movement, otherwise the top of the tower WOULD have toppled. As I posted on another thread, the top of one tower did in fact start to lean, but that was due to a loss of integrity in one corner of the supporting structure below it, it didn't begin to sway or lean as you are apparently trying to concoct. If it HAD begun to sway or lean due to horizontal forces, and there was a loss of horizontal integrity as you are trying to claim, it would have fallen over, not straight down.
LOL That was actually the only rule I had on my forum. No bad mouthing other forums. Leave it at the door. What can I say, CP left a bad taste. Even now you don't find me doing a bunch of bad mouthing. All I did here was relay what happened.
There isn't and never has been. (people banned at LP for doing nothing more than posting here) Are you calling me a liar? No,I was saying you were mistaken. I have posted at both places off and on for years,and have any number of other people. You are the only one I have ever heard of making a claim that they were banned for doing this. I saved Goldi's post! FF was banned for trolling for members for another forum after announcing she was leaving to go there. (She likely only was another day or so here. Damage control.) Then you weren't banned for doing nothing more than posting at both sites. I made no such announcement!!! Nor was I "trolling for members!" Goldi thinks you did. Here is the banning post from FR just for good measure. And what does a post a FR have to do with being banned at LP? Seems to me you have a disconnect in your logic module. And fuck you for insinuating I was lying! And fuck you for leaping to wrong conclusions. Or do you somehow think I am so shy I won't outright accuse somebody of lying if I think they are lying?
Thanks for clearing that up. It's not quite the same thing as "I was banned from LP for posting over here.", is it? Yes,it IS related to posting at both places,but there was more to it than that. For example,both you and I post to both places,and we haven't been banned from LP. I even posted pro- Ron Paul articles at that time and wasn't banned and my articles weren't pulled. Granted,the threads I started were based on actual news reports,not stuff like "Ron Paul had a cheeseburger for lunch today!"
The new ones go up to 12... Yeah,but they are made in China,and 12 really means 2.
Then why wasn't I banned? I was actively trying to convince people to either vote for Ron Paul on a write in ballot or to not vote for the office of president at all.
I wasn't recruiting for 4um. That is the excuse that Goldi used. I wasn't posting Ron Paul threads or bad mouthing LP. I broke no rules. I believe I was banned for my association with Brer Rabbit. You need to read my subsequent posts on this thread regarding what happened. Calling me a liar doesn't change what happened it only makes me dislike you. I find it interesting that you were so quick to assume I was lying rather than finding out what happened before jumping to conclusions. You will never be trusted again.
I was banned shortly before farmfriend.
You didn't happen to bookmark that thread did you? I may have it, I'll have to look. I can confirm FL's banning. Here is Goldi's word on banning FL. He was banned twice! Goldi-Lox is a LIAR, and I can prove it
I believe her real reason was that Marguerite had boo-hooed to Goldi because I was being mean to Byteshredder by not bending over for him when he knocked the soap out of my hand.
See? Even YOU don't think you were banned at LP for posting over here.
Yes but that was the reason Goldi said. I have proof of the one and only supposition of the other.
Ok. I don't remember what happened if I even saw it,but I have no doubt that is the way you remember it. I believe I was banned for my association with Brer Rabbit. Then even YOU don't believe you were banned for posting at both forums. Yet you continue to give me shit over this. Calling me a liar doesn't change what happened it only makes me dislike you. I find it interesting that you were so quick to assume I was lying rather than finding out what happened before jumping to conclusions. You will never be trusted again. What *I* find interesting is that I didn't call you a liar,yet you keep insisting that I did. As far as you trusting me in the future goes,I really don't give a rabid rats ass. I am only responsible for what I say and do,not for what you think,say,or do.
OOOPS! Sorry.
Was this back when Marguerite/Victoria was trying to run her scam to make Goldi feel guilty about being a Jew for not banning anti-Zionist posters?
It is a matter of record! I have the posts saved. It has nothing to do with how I remember it. And yes you insinuated I was lying since what I said couldn't possibly be true in your mind.
From what I've seen by dropping by LP on occasion, when ISN'T Margurite trying to get people banned by appealing to Goldi's self doubt and desire to fit in as a born again Jewess? What is especially noticable is her drama queen performance whenever someone stands up to Byteshredder, citing LP rules in terms of civility, insinuating that poor ole Byteshredder was attacked and treated unfairly without provocation, where she of course totally ignores any amount of profane slander HE feels like dishing out to his victims. He is given free reign to target and slander ANYONE he wishes, and his personal attacks are relentless and over the top, yet he has never been sanctioned for his behavior and total lack of civility. I was fairly effective in neutralizing his attacks, and I think that's what truly got me banned. Just do a search for comments from Marguerite to Goldi and filter out her group pings to see what I mean. She's recently expanded her maternal passion apparently and has been protecting the likes of yukon and other neobots from what I've noticed.
I insinuated nothing. I flat out stated you were wrong,and you were. You later admitted this by saying you think you were banned for belng close to Brer Rabbit. It is only in your mind that I called you a liar,but if you continue to insist that I did I WILL call you a liar. I thought you were mistaken,and you were. It's that simple. Don't make it out to be something it wasn't.
You would be surprised at how Marguerite/Victoria has changed since Goldi banner her as Victoria. Yeah,she is still firmly pro-Israel but she isn't screaming anti-Semite! in every post. I know it's hard to believe,but it's true. I'd have a hard time believing it myself if I hadn't seen it. insinuating that poor ole Byteshredder was attacked and treated unfairly without provocation, where she of course totally ignores any amount of profane slander HE feels like dishing out to his victims. He is given free reign to target and slander ANYONE he wishes, and his personal attacks are relentless and over the top, yet he has never been sanctioned for his behavior and total lack of civility. To be honest I came to the conclusion a long time ago that reading his posts is a waste of time,so I have no idea what he does or says. I just skip over them.
Then why wasn't I banned? I was actively trying to convince people to either vote for Ron Paul on a write in ballot or to not vote for the office of president at all. I don't know if she actually banned anyone. I just remember the meltdowns and threats. I can't believe you don't remember it. It was right after the elections. She blamed Paul and Baldwin voters for McStain's loss and went on a couple of different rampages within as many days. I believe the threads were even posted here.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
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#1236. To: FormerLurker (#1233)
Nothing
#1237. To: war (#1228)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#1238. To: war (#1235)
Apology accepted?
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#1239. To: war (#1220)
What steel columns?
#1240. To: war (#1235)
then she really went after Paul supporters over a number of months beginning in late '07.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#1241. To: farmfriend (#1234)
War - I think that is what you are remembering. You were right, Goldi had pulled one of my posts. It was a message to someone from Brer. She didn't want it up because she had banned him.
#1242. To: farmfriend (#1238)
OH yes. No harm done.
#1243. To: TooConservative (#1239)
#1244. To: war (#1156)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1245. To: war (#1236)
You're out of your mind...what happens when you try to stack too much of something on top of each other?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1246. To: James Deffenbach (#1216)
A Thumbelina (sp?) thimble.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#1247. To: James Deffenbach (#1217)
And their alleged minds very weak.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#1248. To: war (#1241)
I have nothing against Goldi and I enjoyed 99.44% of my time there...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1249. To: X-15 (#1223)
I was banned by the raving bagel for indirectly referencing Ron Paul when she was on one of her little crying jags.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#1250. To: X-15, pinguinite (#1237)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#1251. To: war (#1236)
(Edited)
what happens when you try to stack too much of something on top of each other?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1252. To: FormerLurker (#1251)
Oh and BTW, the WTC towers were not just a bunch of stacked cans, they were rigid structures.
#1253. To: 911 Official Fairy Tale Believers (#1250)
I am sorry. You guys are right. It makes perfect sense that 3 concrete and steel buildings specifically designed to resist the impact of jet airliners came down after only 2 of them were hit by planes. My skepticism is really childish there.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#1254. To: ALL (#1253)
We have the corporate media if the fancy takes us to be spoon-fed absurdities - your parroting their blatant propaganda is tiresome and in no way reflects you in a positive light.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#1255. To: war (#1252)
(Edited)
Not when the links between the two support structures failed...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1256. To: war (#1241)
Anyway, I'm not all that comfoprtable talking about another forum here.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#1257. To: farmfriend (#1133)
#1258. To: FormerLurker, farmfriend (#1143)
At the time, Goldi was having a bad hair day apparently and had banned several old time posters for daring to speak about Ron Paul. She banned anyone who "was recruiting for another forum", farmfriend mentioned 4um, and was banned shortly afterwards.
#1259. To: war (#1155)
Damn, that's mean. Turning it all the way to eleven...you're a bastard, war.
#1260. To: Hayek Fan (#1168)
Hell she even had a couple of meltdowns when McCain lost the election and threatened to ban people who didn't vote for McCain.
#1261. To: sneakypete, FormerLurker (#1258)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#1262. To: sneakypete (#1258)
For example,both you and I post to both places,and we haven't been banned from LP
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1263. To: FormerLurker, sneakypete (#1262)
(Edited)
I was banned shortly before farmfriend.
FL was banned 7/27/06. Somehow I didn't push the right button and it didn't stick. I fixed it last week.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#1264. To: FormerLurker, sneakypete, (#1262)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#1265. To: farmfriend, sneakypete (#1263)
FL was banned 7/27/06. Somehow I didn't push the right button and it didn't stick. I fixed it last week.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1266. To: farmfriend (#1210)
For what it's worth, I believe the real reason I was banned was my association at the time with Brer Rabbit.
#1267. To: sneakypete (#1266)
See? Even YOU don't think you were banned at LP for posting over here.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#1268. To: farmfriend (#1261)
I wasn't recruiting for 4um. That is the excuse that Goldi used.
#1269. To: FormerLurker (#1262)
For example,both you and I post to both places,and we haven't been banned from LP I was banned shortly before farmfriend.
#1270. To: FormerLurker (#1265)
I believe her real reason was that Marguerite had boo-hooed to Goldi
#1271. To: sneakypete (#1268)
Ok. I don't remember what happened if I even saw it,but I have no doubt that is the way you remember it.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#1272. To: sneakypete (#1270)
Was this back when Marguerite/Victoria was trying to run her scam to make Goldi feel guilty about being a Jew for not banning anti-Zionist posters?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1273. To: farmfriend (#1271)
And yes you insinuated I was lying since what I said couldn't possibly be true in your mind.
#1274. To: FormerLurker (#1272)
From what I've seen by dropping by LP on occasion, when ISN'T Margurite trying to get people banned by appealing to Goldi's self doubt and desire to fit in as a born again Jewess?
#1275. To: sneakypete (#1260)
Hell she even had a couple of meltdowns when McCain lost the election and threatened to ban people who didn't vote for McCain.
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