Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;) Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Mar 21, 2009 Author:m e Post Date:2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate Keywords:None Views:11518 Comments:2261
Ok. I don't remember what happened if I even saw it,but I have no doubt that is the way you remember it.
It is a matter of record! I have the posts saved. It has nothing to do with how I remember it. And yes you insinuated I was lying since what I said couldn't possibly be true in your mind.
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Was this back when Marguerite/Victoria was trying to run her scam to make Goldi feel guilty about being a Jew for not banning anti-Zionist posters?
From what I've seen by dropping by LP on occasion, when ISN'T Margurite trying to get people banned by appealing to Goldi's self doubt and desire to fit in as a born again Jewess?
What is especially noticable is her drama queen performance whenever someone stands up to Byteshredder, citing LP rules in terms of civility, insinuating that poor ole Byteshredder was attacked and treated unfairly without provocation, where she of course totally ignores any amount of profane slander HE feels like dishing out to his victims. He is given free reign to target and slander ANYONE he wishes, and his personal attacks are relentless and over the top, yet he has never been sanctioned for his behavior and total lack of civility. I was fairly effective in neutralizing his attacks, and I think that's what truly got me banned.
Just do a search for comments from Marguerite to Goldi and filter out her group pings to see what I mean. She's recently expanded her maternal passion apparently and has been protecting the likes of yukon and other neobots from what I've noticed.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
And yes you insinuated I was lying since what I said couldn't possibly be true in your mind.
I insinuated nothing. I flat out stated you were wrong,and you were. You later admitted this by saying you think you were banned for belng close to Brer Rabbit.
It is only in your mind that I called you a liar,but if you continue to insist that I did I WILL call you a liar.
I thought you were mistaken,and you were. It's that simple. Don't make it out to be something it wasn't.
From what I've seen by dropping by LP on occasion, when ISN'T Margurite trying to get people banned by appealing to Goldi's self doubt and desire to fit in as a born again Jewess?
You would be surprised at how Marguerite/Victoria has changed since Goldi banner her as Victoria.
Yeah,she is still firmly pro-Israel but she isn't screaming anti-Semite! in every post. I know it's hard to believe,but it's true. I'd have a hard time believing it myself if I hadn't seen it.
insinuating that poor ole Byteshredder was attacked and treated unfairly without provocation, where she of course totally ignores any amount of profane slander HE feels like dishing out to his victims. He is given free reign to target and slander ANYONE he wishes, and his personal attacks are relentless and over the top, yet he has never been sanctioned for his behavior and total lack of civility.
To be honest I came to the conclusion a long time ago that reading his posts is a waste of time,so I have no idea what he does or says. I just skip over them.
Hell she even had a couple of meltdowns when McCain lost the election and threatened to ban people who didn't vote for McCain.
Then why wasn't I banned? I was actively trying to convince people to either vote for Ron Paul on a write in ballot or to not vote for the office of president at all.
I don't know if she actually banned anyone. I just remember the meltdowns and threats. I can't believe you don't remember it. It was right after the elections. She blamed Paul and Baldwin voters for McStain's loss and went on a couple of different rampages within as many days. I believe the threads were even posted here.
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It was right after the elections. She blamed Paul and Baldwin voters for McStain's loss and went on a couple of different rampages within as many days.
Yes,I do remember that. She was pretty hysterical for a few days over that. I don't remember anybody getting banned over it,though. I know I wasn't.
Same old same old. Goldi still sides with her, always will, and you know it. She got backed into a corner when she banned her as Jazz fan, that's the only reason she banned her and you know that I think. You keep bringing up Goldi's banning her that one time like it means something and it doesn't. I think you know that too.
Palo can tell us about it, but for some strange reason she always leaves Merc out of the story, very odd really, if you go back and read the threads. I did.
She blamed Paul and Baldwin voters for McStain's loss and went on a couple of different rampages within as many days
If anything, Goldi can thank herself for helping Obama getting elected as she trashed the only Republican who stood a chance against Obama, while villifying and banning his supporters along with any positive mention of him. Of course that candidate's name is Ron Paul.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
If anything, Goldi can thank herself for helping Obama getting elected as she trashed the only Republican who stood a chance against Obama, while villifying and banning his supporters along with any positive mention of him. Of course that candidate's name is Ron Paul.
Ron Paul stood less chance of being elected than I did,and I wasn't running. The alleged Republicans hated him more than the Dims did.
, and there was a loss of horizontal integrity as you are trying to claim, it would have fallen over, not straight down.
You're assuming that the WHOLE structure would have to move...it wouldn't....all it would take would be continuing stress on the building to keep its center of gravity moving enough to compromise its support structure.
Palo can tell us about it, but for some strange reason she always leaves Merc out of the story,
What did Merc have to do with it?
Well having read the threads after all this took place, it sure did seem to me that the person (Cote Blanc I think is was) Palo credits with exposing (as if she isn't as obvious as could be) jazzfan was actually in fact echoing what Merc had said already earlier in the same thread. I wasn't at LP at the time so I might well have missed some other things, but in looking it up that's what I found.
Was she banned,too? I know she hasn't posted there in a long time.
What happened? She was driven off. You missed the Mommy Dearest thread? And the ones before it? You were pinged to it I see, but no replies from you there. It has over 12 hundred replies, and was linked and talked about on all these sites for a while. This was after Merc gave her the ass whipping she had coming (restored here ) and got an apology of sorts, and Goldi deleted it for no reason.
There were others but they were deleted too. You missed them all? Amazing.
I was angelspawn, the other poster banned when jazzfan/veronica was banned some years ago. jazzfan was let back on and I was always booted when Moldy Lox figured out who I was.
What happened? She was driven off. You missed the Mommy Dearest thread? And the ones before it? You were pinged to it I see, but no replies from you there. It has over 12 hundred replies, and was linked and talked about on all these sites for a while.
Yes,I missed them all. I rarely bother to click on those personal vendetta links. If I am pinged to one and it has nothing to do with me I figure I was just a part of a gang ping and never bother to read it.
Also,Merc seemed to dislike me from our days at FR,and almost never responded to any ping I threw her way. Another reason for me to not get involved in a long thread where she was the focus.
This was after Merc gave her the ass whipping she had coming (restored here ) and got an apology of sorts, and Goldi deleted it for no reason.
Merc was/is sharp as a tack,and you had better be prepared when you take her on,regardless of who you are.
Yep, a relative pinhole in terms of lateral loads. The vertical load was largely supported by the inner core, whereas the exterior wall was designed to distribute lateral loads caused by the wind. As you can see from the smoke, there was no wind that day.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The core was cement around steel girders and elevator shafts.
How many tims havve I correct you on the above?
The steel box columns and girders were massive, as can be seen from the images I posted. You make it sound like it was steel rod reinforced concrete, where that is not the case.
How many times have I corrected YOU on that?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
I was angelspawn, the other poster banned when jazzfan/veronica was banned some years ago.
I think I remember your screen name even if i don't remember why you were banned.
jazzfan was let back on and I was always booted when Moldy Lox figured out who I was.
I have called Marguerite "Veronica" dozens of times while pinging Goldi,but Marguerite always denies being Veronica/Jazzfan and for some reason Goldi lets her slide on it.
Maybe she has figured out how people manage to post under different screen names without being exposed? I know there is a way,but have never been curious enough about it to try to figure out how they were doing it.
You're assuming that the WHOLE structure would have to move...it wouldn't....all it would take would be continuing stress on the building to keep its center of gravity moving enough to compromise its support structure.
You are grasping at straws. You are trying to make it sound as if it was an inherently unstable structure and was performing a balancing act. It was not a disjointed unbalanced structure, it was a ridid structure supported by a steel core, so there was no shifting of center of gravity taking place.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1295. To: sneakypete, pinguinite, christine (#1293)
I think I remember your screen name even if i don't remember why you were banned.
"AngelSpawn: Your account is the one I hesitate most to ban as a review of your recent posting history shows no specific comment that I see violating our policy. However, you did in at least one recent instance participate in transforming a thread having nothing to do with Jews/Israel into a thread about Jews/Israel. I'm satisfied that constitutes disruption, and I don't think it likely that that is the only time it's happened. If you don't think so, email me." link, 2004-01-02
To pinguinite: Has your opinion re: Zionism changed in the intervening 5 years?
Yep, a relative pinhole in terms of lateral loads.
You're out of your mind...
The buildings entire center of gravity shifted when those supports were cut.
The vertical load was largely supported by the inner core,
Nope.
whereas the exterior wall was designed to distribute lateral loads caused by the wind.
That was one of it's functions.
We're not charting any new ground here. You've raised all of this before and you were shown each time to be incorrect. First by the design architect...
The steel box columns and girders were massive, as can be seen from the images I posted. You make it sound like it was steel rod reinforced concrete, where that is not the case.
The steel box columns were at the base in the bathtub and did not run the hight of the structure as they transistioned into I-beams near the top. Those same steel columns actually tapered in thickness as they reeached the top.
Those strcutures on the perimter of the core, btw, are not columns but supports for the crane.
This Truther debate has been handy. I added a whole bunch more of these Truther sites to my AdBlock list so I never have see their photo content again.
Funny that he has yet to realize that I an using material that comes from Moonbat sites. I keep that in mind as he tries to impeach my info.
You're posting images that contradict your own claims. Boy what a genius you are.
And BTW, I didn't know the images came from FreeRepublic, home of the moonbats.
And to you "TooConservative", why don't you just stick your head back in the toilet if you don't like to know what's going on...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The buildings entire center of gravity shifted when those supports were cut.
Did you ever finish elementary school? The center of gravity doesn't change until the load shifts or there is a change in it's relative angle to the center of the earth.
Those weren't supports by the way, the exterior wall provided a net like casing for the WTC and only stablized the building against wind loads. You posted an image as "proof" that there was wind that day. It was more of a breeze, and that was only at an elevation higher than the WTC itself. The smoke coming from the windows went straight upwards.
Besides, even moderate winds wouldn't have stressed the building. Hurricane force winds MIGHT have posed a problem, although the exterior structure was more than likely not compromised enough to make a difference either way.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Dude...firmly anchor a 10 foot pole in the ground 2 feet and shake the bottom and then shake the top...this is BASIC stuff you're arguing against...
A whip's TAIL breaks the sound barrier but where you are holding it, it does not...
Huh? Are you trying to say that someone at the bottom of the WTC picked it up and tried snapping it like a whip? I always knew you were a whackjob, but I wasn't aware that you were a stark raving lunatic.
In reference to your analogy of a pole, are you trying to say that the towers were swaying all over the place? You are a jackass.
The towers were solidly in place and NOT experiencing ANY abnormal sway, if they swayed at all from the VERY slight wind that morning.
You are acting like a cartoon character that even little children would see as an idiot.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Those strcutures on the perimter of the core, btw, are not columns but supports for the crane.
So? The core is still not a flimsy set of rods as you make it out to be. In fact that part of the core is not even complete.
Here's a better image that shows a near complete section of the core...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The vertical load was largely supported by the inner core,
Nope.
You fool, you can see from the image you posted how the exterior wall was supported at the bottom of the structure, and it is NOT built to be a vertical load bearing part of the structure. It was built to flex and distribute any lateral wind forces across as much of the structure as possible, dampened by arched legs at the bottom of the structure.
You are either blind or stupid, or paid to act that way.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Look at the bottom of the exterior wall. Those are not vertical load bearing columns, they are dampeners for the exterior wall to absorb lateral wind forces.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
