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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
Author: m e
Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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#1284. To: FormerLurker (#1255)
otherwise the top of the tower WOULD have toppled

Still not getting the whole inertia/gravity relationship?

war posted on 2009-03-25 8:28:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1285. To: FormerLurker (#1255)
, and there was a loss of horizontal integrity as you are trying to claim, it would have fallen over, not straight down.

You're assuming that the WHOLE structure would have to move...it wouldn't....all it would take would be continuing stress on the building to keep its center of gravity moving enough to compromise its support structure.

war posted on 2009-03-25 8:32:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1286. To: sneakypete (#1279)
Palo can tell us about it, but for some strange reason she always leaves Merc out of the story,
What did Merc have to do with it?

Well having read the threads after all this took place, it sure did seem to me that the person (Cote Blanc I think is was) Palo credits with exposing (as if she isn't as obvious as could be) jazzfan was actually in fact echoing what Merc had said already earlier in the same thread. I wasn't at LP at the time so I might well have missed some other things, but in looking it up that's what I found.

Was she banned,too? I know she hasn't posted there in a long time.

What happened? She was driven off. You missed the Mommy Dearest thread? And the ones before it? You were pinged to it I see, but no replies from you there. It has over 12 hundred replies, and was linked and talked about on all these sites for a while. This was after Merc gave her the ass whipping she had coming (restored here ) and got an apology of sorts, and Goldi deleted it for no reason.

There were others but they were deleted too. You missed them all? Amazing.

kUSS posted on 2009-03-25 10:43:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1287. To: kUSS, sneakypete (#1286)
I was angelspawn, the other poster banned when jazzfan/veronica was banned some years ago. jazzfan was let back on and I was always booted when Moldy Lox figured out who I was.
Eff the Bankers
bluegrass posted on 2009-03-25 10:48:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1288. To: kUSS (#1286)
This was after Merc gave her the ass whipping she had coming

well deserved one.

litus posted on 2009-03-25 10:51:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1289. To: All (#1286)
I see that second link is broken, here's a good one I think.

kUSS posted on 2009-03-25 10:53:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1290. To: kUSS (#1286)
What happened? She was driven off. You missed the Mommy Dearest thread? And the ones before it? You were pinged to it I see, but no replies from you there. It has over 12 hundred replies, and was linked and talked about on all these sites for a while.
Yes,I missed them all. I rarely bother to click on those personal vendetta links. If I am pinged to one and it has nothing to do with me I figure I was just a part of a gang ping and never bother to read it.
Also,Merc seemed to dislike me from our days at FR,and almost never responded to any ping I threw her way. Another reason for me to not get involved in a long thread where she was the focus.
This was after Merc gave her the ass whipping she had coming (restored here ) and got an apology of sorts, and Goldi deleted it for no reason.
Merc was/is sharp as a tack,and you had better be prepared when you take her on,regardless of who you are.

sneakypete posted on 2009-03-25 11:41:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1291. To: war (#1282)
Relative pinhole?

Yep, a relative pinhole in terms of lateral loads. The vertical load was largely supported by the inner core, whereas the exterior wall was designed to distribute lateral loads caused by the wind. As you can see from the smoke, there was no wind that day.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-25 11:41:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1292. To: war (#1283)
The core was cement around steel girders and elevator shafts.
How many tims havve I correct you on the above?

The steel box columns and girders were massive, as can be seen from the images I posted. You make it sound like it was steel rod reinforced concrete, where that is not the case.
How many times have I corrected YOU on that?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-25 11:44:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1293. To: bluegrass (#1287)
I was angelspawn, the other poster banned when jazzfan/veronica was banned some years ago.
I think I remember your screen name even if i don't remember why you were banned.
jazzfan was let back on and I was always booted when Moldy Lox figured out who I was.
I have called Marguerite "Veronica" dozens of times while pinging Goldi,but Marguerite always denies being Veronica/Jazzfan and for some reason Goldi lets her slide on it.
Maybe she has figured out how people manage to post under different screen names without being exposed? I know there is a way,but have never been curious enough about it to try to figure out how they were doing it.

sneakypete posted on 2009-03-25 11:45:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1294. To: war (#1285)
You're assuming that the WHOLE structure would have to move...it wouldn't....all it would take would be continuing stress on the building to keep its center of gravity moving enough to compromise its support structure.

You are grasping at straws. You are trying to make it sound as if it was an inherently unstable structure and was performing a balancing act. It was not a disjointed unbalanced structure, it was a ridid structure supported by a steel core, so there was no shifting of center of gravity taking place.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-25 11:46:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1295. To: sneakypete, pinguinite, christine (#1293)
I think I remember your screen name even if i don't remember why you were banned.

"AngelSpawn: Your account is the one I hesitate most to ban as a review of your recent posting history shows no specific comment that I see violating our policy. However, you did in at least one recent instance participate in transforming a thread having nothing to do with Jews/Israel into a thread about Jews/Israel. I'm satisfied that constitutes disruption, and I don't think it likely that that is the only time it's happened. If you don't think so, email me." link, 2004-01-02
To pinguinite: Has your opinion re: Zionism changed in the intervening 5 years?
Eff the Bankers
bluegrass posted on 2009-03-25 11:55:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1296. To: FormerLurker (#1291)
Yep, a relative pinhole in terms of lateral loads.

You're out of your mind...
The buildings entire center of gravity shifted when those supports were cut.

The vertical load was largely supported by the inner core,
Nope.
whereas the exterior wall was designed to distribute lateral loads caused by the wind.
That was one of it's functions.
We're not charting any new ground here. You've raised all of this before and you were shown each time to be incorrect. First by the design architect...

war posted on 2009-03-25 12:06:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1297. To: FormerLurker (#1292)
The steel box columns and girders were massive, as can be seen from the images I posted. You make it sound like it was steel rod reinforced concrete, where that is not the case.

The steel box columns were at the base in the bathtub and did not run the hight of the structure as they transistioned into I-beams near the top. Those same steel columns actually tapered in thickness as they reeached the top.

Those strcutures on the perimter of the core, btw, are not columns but supports for the crane.

war posted on 2009-03-25 12:18:07 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#1298. To: FormerLurker (#1294)
You are grasping at straws.

Wha...huh?
Dude...firmly anchor a 10 foot pole in the ground 2 feet and shake the bottom and then shake the top...this is BASIC stuff you're arguing against...
A whip's TAIL breaks the sound barrier but where you are holding it, it does not...

war posted on 2009-03-25 12:20:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1299. To: FormerLurker (#1292)
How many times have I corrected YOU on that?

Correctly?
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war posted on 2009-03-25 12:20:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1300. To: FormerLurker (#1291)
whereas the exterior wall was designed to distribute lateral loads caused by the wind. As you can see from the smoke, there was no wind that day.

Final answer?

Bzzzzttt....

war posted on 2009-03-25 12:25:24 ET (2 images) Reply Trace Private Reply
#1301. To: war, FormerLurker (#1300)
This Truther debate has been handy. I added a whole bunch more of these Truther sites to my AdBlock list so I never have see their photo content again.
Thanks for your contributions.

TooConservative posted on 2009-03-25 13:14:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1302. To: TooConservative, FormerLurker (#1301)
Your Humble Servant...
Funny that he has yet to realize that I an using material that comes from Moonbat sites. I keep that in mind as he tries to impeach my info.
Then I laugh...

war posted on 2009-03-25 13:21:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1303. To: palo verde (#135)
Howdy palo, good to see you over here...hope all is well with you...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
Mudboy Slim posted on 2009-03-25 16:44:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1304. To: war, TooConservative (#1302) (Edited)
Funny that he has yet to realize that I an using material that comes from Moonbat sites. I keep that in mind as he tries to impeach my info.

You're posting images that contradict your own claims. Boy what a genius you are.
And BTW, I didn't know the images came from FreeRepublic, home of the moonbats.
And to you "TooConservative", why don't you just stick your head back in the toilet if you don't like to know what's going on...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-25 17:02:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1305. To: war (#1296)
The buildings entire center of gravity shifted when those supports were cut.
Did you ever finish elementary school? The center of gravity doesn't change until the load shifts or there is a change in it's relative angle to the center of the earth.
Those weren't supports by the way, the exterior wall provided a net like casing for the WTC and only stablized the building against wind loads. You posted an image as "proof" that there was wind that day. It was more of a breeze, and that was only at an elevation higher than the WTC itself. The smoke coming from the windows went straight upwards.
Besides, even moderate winds wouldn't have stressed the building. Hurricane force winds MIGHT have posed a problem, although the exterior structure was more than likely not compromised enough to make a difference either way.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-25 17:08:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1306. To: war (#1298)
Dude...firmly anchor a 10 foot pole in the ground 2 feet and shake the bottom and then shake the top...this is BASIC stuff you're arguing against...
A whip's TAIL breaks the sound barrier but where you are holding it, it does not...

Huh? Are you trying to say that someone at the bottom of the WTC picked it up and tried snapping it like a whip? I always knew you were a whackjob, but I wasn't aware that you were a stark raving lunatic.
In reference to your analogy of a pole, are you trying to say that the towers were swaying all over the place? You are a jackass.
The towers were solidly in place and NOT experiencing ANY abnormal sway, if they swayed at all from the VERY slight wind that morning.
You are acting like a cartoon character that even little children would see as an idiot.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-25 17:13:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1307. To: war (#1297)
Those strcutures on the perimter of the core, btw, are not columns but supports for the crane.

So? The core is still not a flimsy set of rods as you make it out to be. In fact that part of the core is not even complete.

Here's a better image that shows a near complete section of the core...

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-25 17:18:10 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#1308. To: war (#1296)
The vertical load was largely supported by the inner core,

Nope.

You fool, you can see from the image you posted how the exterior wall was supported at the bottom of the structure, and it is NOT built to be a vertical load bearing part of the structure. It was built to flex and distribute any lateral wind forces across as much of the structure as possible, dampened by arched legs at the bottom of the structure.
You are either blind or stupid, or paid to act that way.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-25 17:28:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1309. To: All (#1308) (Edited)

Look at the bottom of the exterior wall. Those are not vertical load bearing columns, they are dampeners for the exterior wall to absorb lateral wind forces.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-25 17:30:16 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#1310. To: bluegrass (#1295)
You're right. Your banning seems to be entirely arbitrary.
Did you email her to state your case,or did you just say "screw it!" and accept it?

sneakypete posted on 2009-03-25 19:05:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1311. To: sneakypete (#1310)
(Incredibly freaky!)

Itistoolate posted on 2009-03-25 19:24:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1312. To: bluegrass (#1295)
"AngelSpawn: Your account is the one I hesitate most to ban as a review of your recent posting history shows no specific comment that I see violating our policy. However, you did in at least one recent instance participate in transforming a thread having nothing to do with Jews/Israel into a thread about Jews/Israel. I'm satisfied that constitutes disruption, and I don't think it likely that that is the only time it's happened. If you don't think so, email me." link, 2004-01-02

mcIver did that ????

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-25 19:28:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1313. To: TooConservative (#1301)
You really believe the Official Story®, don't you ! ?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-25 19:29:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1314. To: pinguinite (#1295)
Having decided that I'm sufficiently fed-up with all the threads dedicated to Jews & anti-semitism (alleged or more) and some of the related incivility, a few hours ago I suspended the following accounts (in no particular order):
AngelSpawn, Ben Herbivore, Jazzfan, WhiteFlame (WF since reregistering as MrAnderson, also banned).
These accounts are banned for the following reasons:
AngelSpawn: Your account is the one I hesitate most to ban as a review of your recent posting history shows no specific comment that I see violating our policy. However, you did in at least one recent instance participate in transforming a thread having nothing to do with Jews/Israel into a thread about Jews/Israel. I'm satisfied that constitutes disruption, and I don't think it likely that that is the only time it's happened. If you don't think so, email me.
Ben Herbivore: You've been very uncivil on numerous occasions (which I find quite out of character for someone who professed to be a Christian -- if you're are then you and God certainly know something I don't) too eager and quick to accuse people of anti-semitism among other things. Thanks again for the funny cartoon, though.
Jazzfan: Well..... see what I said about BH above (minus the Christian part, I suppose) and all the other nasty things I've said about you in my last 30 posts or so. Not particularly flattering, if I do say so myself.
WhiteFlame: Your last post to me (under than screen name) makes very plain accusations against Jews in taking over everything. If I were as patient as I used to be, I'd ask you *why* it is Jews supposedly do these things to put you into the position of having no real answer that would pass site policy. But I'm not going to do that. I've no time. I've no patience. I'm not getting paid enough to bother and I have better things to do. Your alter ego "MrAnderson" is also banned, and the thread you started and posted on deleted.
To all: I regret the situation deteriorated here as long as it did. Pretty much since we opened up, more than a few of you have expressed some appreciation/amazement at my patience with people. Perhaps this time it has served as a liability for the site. It has always been my goal to have LP be a "level playing field" site where "the truth can stand on its own" and where I'd be content just letting the arguments stand or fall where they may. Honestly, if everyone were like me, it would work well. Particularly since we have a bozo filter that would have served many people to keep the threads free of a lot of the crap. *Some* of you are like me that way but not all. That's okay, though, since it's a "the customer is always right" type of thing.
Still, one reason I have to be patient about these things is because I know that I can kick anyone off this site anytime I so much as feel like it. I'm not a perfect judge and my timing may be worse than my judging, but recovering from obnoxious posters is something that we can always do at any time.
There may be more bannings than the above. I'll probably be less patient with people in the future. I'll probably get more criticisms for not respecting "free speech" or for compromising my principles or the original mission of LP.... maybe. I don't know. Maybe not. On the other hand, I will be less fed up, and I will have more time to do stuff that actually pays my own bills, one of which I could be doing instead of writing this post.
But I do appreciate the vast majority of you that participate on LP and have offered so much time, effort, concern, financial support -- and now I'll add "patience" to that list -- for the benefit of LP. LP is about growing, learning and becoming better than we were, even if just a little bit. My lesson in all this is not to be as patient when I see people like Jazzfan on-line. Hopefully that makes me a better guy than I was before, and if it does, it just goes to prove that LP does indeed work, and that all the effort IS paying off. ;^)
My best to all well-intended LPers! I hope you had a happy and safe New Year's in spite of what was transpiring here. Let's hope 2004 brings us better tidings on LP, and that we'll have more virtue and integrity in all regions of the world.
Thank you,
Neil McIver Manager, Liberty Post

ACK !!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-25 19:37:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1315. To: sneakypete (#1314)
19. To: Neil McIver, Goldi-Lox (#0)
This couldn't have been easy for either of you,but it had to be done.

sneakypete posted on 2004-01-02 22:53:28 ET Reply Trace

LOL !

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-25 19:42:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1316. To: FormerLurker (#1309)
Look at the bottom of the exterior wall. Those are not vertical load bearing columns, they are dampeners for the exterior wall to absorb lateral wind forces.

They weren't the main support for the vertical load, but they did provide some support. However even without them the core would have been able to hold the floors up but the trusses might not have been able to. But only a small fraction of the exterior columns in each tower was damaged so that had virtually no effect on any floor falling.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2009-03-25 19:44:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1317. To: pinguinite (#1314)
LP is about growing, learning and becoming better than we were, even if just a little bit. My lesson in all this is not to be as patient when I see people like Jazzfan on-line. Hopefully that makes me a better guy than I was before, and if it does, it just goes to prove that LP does indeed work, and that all the effort IS paying off. ;^)

So this past year really hasn't been anything new for you ?? LOL

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-25 19:46:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1318. To: dakmar (#1317)
4. To: Neil McIver, palo verde, christine, lucky (#0)
You did good Neil, Angel Spawn was starting to look kind of obsessive to even me, and I'm a kooky uberdeutscher what plays Beethoven's 9th at least twice a year, usually real loud like.

Dakmar posted on 2004-01-02 22:24:52 ET Reply Trace

Har har !!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-25 19:48:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1319. To: Rotara (#1318)
The millicents have nothing on me, brother.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
Dakmar posted on 2009-03-25 20:23:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1320. To: bluegrass (#1319)
#1318. No hard feelings, oh my brother? :)
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
Dakmar posted on 2009-03-25 20:25:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1321. To: Rotara (#1313)
You really believe the Official Story®, don't you ! ?

I doubt we'll ever know.
The government conducted a whitewash investigation. The Truthers, many of them flakes and self-promoters, jumped into the fray. Some of them are real nutjobs.
Now, I don't think you ever manage to prove it unless you get lucky, like someone directly involved confessing to it, providing credible evidence.
You know, this will drag on the rest of our lives, like the JFK thing. Or Waco. If someone gets too close to some actual truth and proof, you might see the gooberment hatch another tragedy, just to distract people.
I don't think the Truthers ever met the burden of proof.

TooConservative posted on 2009-03-25 21:10:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1322. To: Rotara, christine (#1250)
Neil McIver took a stand for Ron Paul there I believe. Then he drank the Obamessiah Kool Aid shortly thereafter iirc. ;-)

No, you do not rc.
I really don't want to waste my time going down this road again. Frankly, I don't participate as much here as I used to because of the damned stupidity and accusations I have endured here during election season, all by people that are too quick to judge and too slow to listen, and in fact blinded by some defect in their own biased minds.
I have a life to live, and I'm living it and enjoying it. Enjoy yours.
Neil

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-25 21:48:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1323. To: Pinguinite (#1322)
I have a life to live, and I'm living it and enjoying it. Enjoy yours.

Enjoy it in the jungle, sans a gun.

Jethro Tull posted on 2009-03-25 21:51:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1324. To: Jethro Tull (#1323)
I was in the jungle yesterday, as a matter of fact. Today it's back home in the mountains, and tomorrow, it's off to the beach.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-25 21:53:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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