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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
Author: m e
Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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#1326. To: Flintlock (#1325)
I was in the jungle yesterday, as a matter of fact.
What part?

Lets me go first.
The Amazon.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
tom007 posted on 2009-03-25 22:08:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1327. To: Pinguinite (#1324)
Sounds lovely as long as the natives tolerate you.

Jethro Tull posted on 2009-03-25 22:09:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1328. To: Flintlock (#1325)
Hey Flint. Long time. I was in Tena.
Where abouts are you these days?

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-25 22:13:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1329. To: Jethro Tull (#1327)
Sounds lovely as long as the natives tolerate you.

Much more than you ever have.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-25 22:15:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1330. To: Pinguinite (#1329)
Much more than you ever have.

First, you haven't a clue how freely I live, and second, the absurd lifestyle you lived here put a big fat target on your back, and for what? You never had a dime, so taxes wasn't an issue. And as far as driving? People need licenses, as you found out, ya' silly thing.

Jethro Tull posted on 2009-03-25 22:22:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1331. To: Pinguinite (#1328)
I was in Tena.

Panning for gold? Tena is a little too civilized for me. I preferred it a little further east.
Let's just say I'm living on my ~~yacht~~ boat in a tropical climate
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
Flintlock posted on 2009-03-25 22:23:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1332. To: Jethro Tull (#1330)
First, you haven't a clue how freely I live,

Did I ever say that I cared about how you live?

and second, the absurd lifestyle you lived here put a big fat target on your back, and for what? You never had a dime, so taxes wasn't an issue. And as far as driving? People need licenses, as you found out, ya' silly thing.

I don't believe that you care about me either, so I'm not inclined to discuss my life with you either.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-25 22:59:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1333. To: Pinguinite (#1332)
I'm not inclined to discuss my life with you either.

You discussed your life on your goofy life w/o a number blog. I tried not to read it but it was a personal train wreck, so I couldn't help myself.

Jethro Tull posted on 2009-03-25 23:06:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1334. To: Flintlock (#1331)
We did do some recreational panning. Found an old sluicing dredge on a creek, but only found a little gold. But it was a good time.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-25 23:19:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1335. To: Jethro Tull (#1333)
Well ain't that just wonderful. Good for you.
Now for all I care, you can go screw yourself.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-25 23:23:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1336. To: Pinguinite (#1335)
I like the old Neil better; the one who pimped for Obingo and was willing to trade our 2nd for global peace. Pleeeeeeeeeze........

Jethro Tull posted on 2009-03-25 23:26:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1337. To: Jethro Tull (#1336)
I like the old Neil better; the one who pimped for Obingo and was willing to trade our 2nd for global peace. Pleeeeeeeeeze........

I don't see how any intelligent person could have fallen for Obama. It makes no sense at all.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2009-03-25 23:32:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1338. To: Jethro Tull, Christine (#1336)
I really don't know how Christine tolerates you. You are simply an ass, and nothing more.
I'm sorry, Christine, but it's simply true.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-25 23:41:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1339. To: Pinguinite (#1338)
Jizzzzzzzzzzzzz
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
Flintlock posted on 2009-03-25 23:46:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1340. To: Pinguinite (#1338)
I really don't know how Christine tolerates you. You are simply an ass, and nothing more.
I'm sorry, Christine, but it's simply true.

You yellow bellied lily livered son of a bitch !!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 0:12:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1341. To: Rotara (#1340)
You yellow bellied lily livered son of a bitch !!

Meaning what, exactly? Was that sarcasm?
It's redundant, I know, but I guess I need to point out that I came on this thread to defend myself against your resurrected slander of my person, after which JT decided to restart an old war. I did not ping him. I did not have any desire to communicate with him. But he decided it would be a good idea to start it all back up.
Ergo, he is an ass. Pure and simple.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-26 0:19:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1342. To: Pinguinite (#1341)
YOU are the ass, America-hater !

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 0:22:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1343. To: Pinguinite (#1328)
Hey Flint. Long time. I was in Tena.

I really am quite sure I was in Tena, twenty years ago. A small city as I recall.
PG Ecuador seems to me like a great place.
Sue and I just got back from three weeks in Mexico, and it was just a great experience. I remember Ecuador, from 1985, to be a a tremendous place to travel.
I am geared up for all of Latin America.
I bet your Spanish is very good at this point.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
tom007 posted on 2009-03-26 0:33:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1344. To: Rotara (#1342)
YOU are the ass, America-hater !

America-hater.....?
Wow. That insult used to be tossed around on LP against a lot of people here. How ironic the cycle starts again on a thread speculating about LP's demise.
Amazing how we become what we hate most, isn't it Rotara?

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-26 0:42:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1345. To: Pinguinite (#1344)
Amazing how we become what we hate most, isn't it Rotara?

Speak for yourself.
I'm carrying open just like always, Obamalamadingdong lover.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 0:44:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1346. To: Pinguinite (#1328)
I was in Tena.

PG,
It has been a while, but Tena was a (from what I recall) a terribly muddy bus stop on the way to Muswhie(a lousy spelling) and the initial departure for a long canoue trip down the Rio Napo to the great named town of Coca, maybe about twenty miles from the Puervian Border.
This was one of the greatest trips I have ever had in my life.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
tom007 posted on 2009-03-26 0:45:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1347. To: Rotara (#1342) (Edited)
YOU are the ass, America-hater !

You have a way with words. You assume I am up to no good by announcing that I don't care for Alex Jones and have reason to think he is not what he portrays himself to be. On that lone bit of info alone you hurl insults. Did Alex teach you to act that way?
I don't know why Neil thought Obama would be any different than the rest. I hope he realizes he was wrong about that now. But even if he doesn't, insulting someone for something they sincerely believe, even if they are wrong, is childish and counterproductive to a mutual understanding of the issues.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2009-03-26 0:50:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1348. To: All (#1346)
I was in a bus with a Portugause girl, who on the trip to Musiane, (sp) was energic and interested in men.
Well my cousin and my self had a world class wonderful time playing guitar and singing ballads while the Rio Napo flowed behind us with the locals.
A wonderful memory, really.
One of the locals was Juan, and he was a great drinker, good guitar player and had some fine weed which he was generous to share in this remote star splayed skies of the Southern Hemisphere
The skies that night were beyound description..
Well all of this has a good ending.

Prolly about two AYM Juan comes rolling into our "hotel" room and grabs a matteress, and hauls it out-, my cousin and I are are hardly awake, and off goes Juan and a matteress.
Well what do we care.
So the next day,as we have tickets (haha)on the boat run to Coca, here appears Juan and his new girl friend, dragging our mattress back to out room.
Turns out that Juan was the Captian of our longboat the next day, and he did am admirable job (really) of dealin with all the serous rapids of the Rio Napo.
Was a frekking wonderful trip.
Spent the night in Coco, and some how caught a military plane to Quito, and the pilot was king enough to fly around the massive mountins there.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
tom007 posted on 2009-03-26 1:15:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1349. To: Pinguinite (#1338)
i'm sorry for the animosity between you and JT, Neil, but it has nothing to do with me. this should be between the two of you. i don't appreciate being included in your insult to him as i'm sure he won't, but since you did, i will say that i strongly disagree with your assessment.

christine posted on 2009-03-26 1:18:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1350. To: christine (#1349)
I was in Tena.

I really think a three week trip to Melaque Mexico is what, Christine, is called for here.
I can highly recommend a hotel for $14.50 a day with some just wonderful people running it.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
tom007 posted on 2009-03-26 1:28:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1351. To: tom007, christine (#1350)
Just don't drink the water.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Original_Intent posted on 2009-03-26 1:32:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1352. To: christine (#1349)
Did I mention That you are a wonderful person that my family would like to be aquainted with?
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
tom007 posted on 2009-03-26 1:35:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1353. To: Original_Intent (#1351)
Just don't drink the water.

I followed your advice,
The beer was excellent.
Sol,$.44 a bottle.
Mexico was Hell.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
tom007 posted on 2009-03-26 1:37:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1354. To: RickyJ (#1347)
I don't know why Neil thought Obama would be any different than the rest. I hope he realizes he was wrong about that now. But even if he doesn't, insulting someone for something they sincerely believe, even if they are wrong, is childish and counterproductive to a mutual understanding of the issues.

I never suggested anyone vote for Obama. I've always suggested voting for either Ron Paul, as a write-in if/when necessary, or Barr, the LP candidate. Yet my casual observations about what might be different between Obama and McCain was apparently successfully exploited by a shill or two here to damage my reputation. And a few here were apparently (at best) careless enough to fall for it, and too close minded to see that they were successfully duped. And they continue to carry on the work of those shills.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-26 1:58:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1355. To: christine, All (#1349)
I understand we have differing opinions on JT, and that's fine.
But I think the record on this thread of his completely unsolicited attacks on me on this evening speaks for itself, and supports my assessment quite strongly. I believe that any unbiased person reviewing it would agree.
And if I feel 4um is a place where it's open season for unwarranted attacks on my reputation, I'll close my account and go for good.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-26 2:10:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1356. To: Pinguinite (#1354)
OK, I kind of thought you were for Obama over McCain but I guess I was wrong.
When the establishment controls who are the choices for President then it is a safe bet they differ very slightly on the issues to the point of being insignificant.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2009-03-26 2:42:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1357. To: Rotara (#1342)
YOU are the ass, America-hater !

Hey shit for brains, Neil is the person that made this forum you're spewing shit on possible. He partnered with Goldi-Lox to create LP, and gave us 4um with the hostess (and owner) being christine.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you shit for brains. You should get on your knees and apologize for being such a major asshole.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-26 2:48:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1358. To: Pinguinite (#1355)
Hey Neil, don't disappear off into the sunset. You've got some people here that look up to you and appreciate what you've done, and that includes me.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-26 3:01:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1359. To: Pinguinite, TwentyTwelve, christine, Rotara, all (#1355)
I understand we have differing opinions on JT, and that's fine.
But I think the record on this thread of his completely unsolicited attacks on me on this evening speaks for itself, and supports my assessment quite strongly. I believe that any unbiased person reviewing it would agree.
And if I feel 4um is a place where it's open season for unwarranted attacks on my reputation, I'll close my account and go for good.

Let it be water off of a Duck's back. If I allowed all the attacks and name calling I've taken bother me I would have slit my wrists a long time ago. I'm sure that would have made a few shills happy.
I still recall your stand on the thread that got TwentyTwelve and I banned for pointing out that Goldi-Pox was a stinking lying hypocritical Israel Firster. Of course I was a bit more decorous before the banning. ;-)
You need not be bothered by the misapprehensions of others. Seek first and only your own approval. Of course it doesn't hurt to have God on your side either.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Original_Intent posted on 2009-03-26 3:12:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1360. To: Itistoolate (#1311)
LOL! Maybe Calypso Louie Farakhan is behind all this?

sneakypete posted on 2009-03-26 7:29:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1361. To: FormerLurker (#1304)
You're posting images that contradict your own claims.

You keep posting that but, oddly, the details of those contradictions never seem to be made. Why is that?

war posted on 2009-03-26 7:33:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1362. To: FormerLurker (#1306)
In reference to your analogy of a pole, are you trying to say that the towers were swaying all over the place?

Had you ever been in the towers? You could feel the sway in the upper floors. This one is the easiest of your rantings to bitch slap. The towers swayed...it 's why lateral support was so important. And, uh, the design engineers after they had tested their prototypes that determined how much sway both the building and the occupants could take, they then developed a MASSIVE system of viscoelastic dampers that mitigated the sway. Guess where they put these dampers....BETWEEN THE TRUSSES AND THE PERIMETER COLUMNS.
Your problem is that you've assumed a conclusion, i.e. "BOOOSH BRUNG DOWN THE TOWERS!!!" and are trying to construct a fairy tale based upon Moonbatism Your further problem is, there are several REALITIES that stand in the way of your paranoiac fanrasy. So to cut to the chase here and answer your question...yes, Alice IN Wonderland, the towers did sway and the lost of perimeter support exacerbated that sway.

war posted on 2009-03-26 7:44:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1363. To: FormerLurker (#1307)
Doof...that is a) the lower structure of the tower and that has has been pointed out to you more than once and b) you are mistaking 1) crane supports and 2) concrete forms for support beams.

war posted on 2009-03-26 7:54:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1364. To: FormerLurker (#1308)
the exterior wall ...[was] NOT built to be a vertical load bearing part of the structure

Nope. That is just plain incorrect.
In terms of structural system the twin towers departed completely from other high-rise buildings. Conventional skyscrapers since the 19th century have been built with a skeleton of interior supporting columns that supports the structure. Exterior walls of glass steel or synthetic material do not carry any load. The Twin towers are radically different in structural design as the exterior wall is used as the load-bearing wall. (A load bearing wall supports the weight of the floors.) The only interior columns are located in the core area, which contains the elevators. The outer wall carries the building vertical loads and provides the entire resistance to wind. The wall consists of closely spaced vertical columns (21 columns 10 feet apart) tied together by horizontal spandrel beams that girdle the tower at every floor. On the inside of the structure the floor sections consist of trusses spanning from the core to the outer wall.

war posted on 2009-03-26 8:08:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1365. To: FormerLurker (#1305)
The center of gravity doesn't change until the load shifts

Doh...
You're flying by the seat of your pants and they need mending, dude...

war posted on 2009-03-26 8:20:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1366. To: Pinguinite (#1338)
Nobody who was present during your Obama, gun-grabbing wish list presentation last Fall will ever forget your words, so stop trying to play the martyr. You're a gold plated fraud, nothing more, nothing less.

Jethro Tull posted on 2009-03-26 9:47:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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