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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
Author: m e
Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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Officer Jack McLamb's shows:
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#1416. To: Rotara (#1402)
He's [Rahm] the cabal's favorite mensch me thinks.

That Rahhhhhm weaseled his way into both the Klinton & Kenyan administrations as an anti-American commie subversive and Israeli citizen firster, and gotten away with as much crap as he's gotten away with (NOTHING sticks to this guy) demonstrates that he's got some major juice backing him up.

Liberator posted on 2009-03-26 12:29:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1417. To: Pinguinite (#1414)
Liar

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 12:29:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1418. To: FormerLurker (#1410)
The exterior walls had relatively minor damage in relation to the overall structure

This picture shows severance across the entire facade:

This one shows severance across most of another facade and wholly across the face of another:

Minor damage my ass...

war posted on 2009-03-26 12:31:00 ET (3 images) Reply Trace Private Reply
#1419. To: F16Fighter (#1416)
I can't tell if Israel runs ameriKa, if ameriKa runs Israel or if they're both taking orders from the banksters in coordinated fashion.
Hmmm

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 12:31:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1420. To: Rotara (#1379)
There are 2 kinds of people on 4um. Those that like Obama because they are white guilters, and those who hate Obama because they are racists.

At least that seems to be the options put forth collectively by us 4umers.

what a joke

It was a joke. 4um was pretty much a zoo then. And now it seems the animals are coming back out of their cages.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-26 12:33:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1421. To: Rotara (#1417)
Okay, prove it.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-26 12:34:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1422. To: Rotara (#1379)
For reasons that fly past me, Mr. Neil forgot to add that many here knew Obama was a socialist who would perform as advertised. Time has proven us right. It's very hard to have it both ways with people who have core principles and refuse to be suckered into the political system.

Jethro Tull posted on 2009-03-26 12:35:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1423. To: Rotara (#1408)
I asked for a refund but he ignored me. I could share rimjob stories for a straight week and not slow down.

Huh?? JimRob IGNORED your refund request?? SHOCKING! LOL...To think - some Freepers gave him auto-access to PayPal and Debit/Credit Card accounts is scary.
Oh, we could share some stories alright - I pulled off TWO major Opuses under TWO names - both of which Rimmy finally had to shut down after he and his Mods were exposed as jerks and hypocrites.

Liberator posted on 2009-03-26 12:37:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1424. To: Pinguinite (#1372)
You're an absolutely clueless ass.

Neil, I'm sure some would agree that I'm an ass, but classless? You live in a freaking jungle for crying out loud.

Jethro Tull posted on 2009-03-26 12:38:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1425. To: war (#1418)
Minor damage my ass...

RELATIVELY minor damage you idiot. Certainly nothing that could cause the tower to collapse.
BTW, you never addressed the amount of kinetic energy required to break all the undamaged floors below the damaged part of the structure. Being that you don't understand college level physics or engineering, I guess you have no clue.
SO you really should just go read some books on freshman year physics and THEN maybe you'd have an idea of how impossible it would be for the building to collapse as it did.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-26 12:38:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1426. To: Pinguinite (#1420)
And now it seems the animals are coming back out of their cages.

Yeah you're back.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 12:38:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1427. To: Pinguinite (#1421)
Okay, prove it.

How many times ?
It's in your posting history for anyone that wants to research it.
You and I both know the truth already, however you're a fucking L-I-A-R that would like to waste more of my time.
You made it clear that you're a gun grabbing world socialist, that didn't work and you left.
Now you're back. You still won't admit the truth.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 12:40:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1428. To: F16Fighter (#1423)
I haven't forgotten mi amigo.
Remember when he went all North American Union on people ?
All the while his brother is running a sweat shop in messico..

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 12:41:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1429. To: FormerLurker (#1415)
The jet fuel ignited but didn't really explode. For there to be an explosion there has to be a confined space, so a fuel tank could explode, but the tanks had burst outside the building so no, the fuel didn't explode inside the building.

Say "Good Night Gracie"...
Anyone who believes that there was no explosion inside that building on impact is CERTIFIABLY CALL THE TWINKIE WAGON ON THE BATPHONE nuts.
I will tell you right here and now that the LOUDEST sounds that I have ever heard in my life were the two planes exploding ON IMPACT. I was on the 27th floor of 1 Liiberty and we were pelted with all sort of materials that was blasted out of WTC 2.
There aren't even any Moonbat sites which support your contention that nothing exploded INSIDE the buildings. Then you have the problem of those inside the buildings describing the explosion INSIDE the building on impact.

war posted on 2009-03-26 12:42:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1430. To: Rotara (#1419)
I can't tell if Israel runs ameriKa, if ameriKa runs Israel or if they're both taking orders from the banksters in coordinated fashion.
Hmmm

Legit questions on certain levels...
However, I would have to go with your suggestion that it's the International Bankers pulling ALL the strings behind the curtain - especially in light of the Grandest-Larceny-Ever that we've just witnessed as trillions in (cough, bullsh*t) unspecified "bail-outs" were doled out like M&Ms.

Liberator posted on 2009-03-26 12:43:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1431. To: FormerLurker (#1425)
RELATIVELY minor damage you idiot.

Why I suddenly feel as if I am discussing this with:

I SEE NOSSING....NOSSING...

war posted on 2009-03-26 12:45:00 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#1432. To: FormerLurker (#1425)
BTW, you never addressed the amount of kinetic energy required to break all the undamaged floors below the damaged part of the structure. Being that you don't understand college level physics or engineering, I guess you have no clue.

Uh yea, I did...and thanks for proving my suspicion that you do not read my links yet argue against them any way...

war posted on 2009-03-26 12:46:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1433. To: Rotara (#1427)

How many times ?

One time would be plenty.

It's in your posting history for anyone that wants to research it.

Indeed. Unfortunately that doesn't include you and JT. You two just want someone for target practice and I was conveniently present.

You and I both know the truth already, however you're a fucking L-I-A-R that would like to waste more of my time.

That which has no value cannot be wasted.

You made it clear that you're a gun grabbing world socialist, that didn't work and you left.

The record to the contrary is there for all to see.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-03-26 12:47:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1434. To: F16Fighter (#1430)
I would have to go with your suggestion that it's the International Bankers pulling ALL the strings behind the curtain

That's what I'm thinking.
We provide the $ and men though.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 12:47:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1435. To: war (#1432)
Uh yea, I did...and thanks for proving my suspicion that you do not read my links yet argue against them any way...

No you didn't. You DID admit that you don't understand basic physics and have no clue about anything written that uses big words like "center of gravity", so why don't you just shut up and give up.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-26 12:48:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1436. To: Pinguinite (#1433)
You'd make a great politician.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 12:48:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1437. To: F16Fighter (#1407)
Sometimes we may not realize and admit it, but that cloud of methane is occasionally reeking from behind our own hind-quarters.

NOwhere in my statement did I mean to exclude mine, mon frer...
Did you hear about the F-22 yesterday, dude?

war posted on 2009-03-26 12:49:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1438. To: war (#1429)
I will tell you right here and now that the LOUDEST sounds that I have ever heard in my life were the two planes exploding ON IMPACT.

You drooling retard, you heard them because they hit OUTSIDE the buildings and that is what you heard.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-26 12:49:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1439. To: FormerLurker (#1435)
No you didn't. You DID admit that you don't understand basic physics

Christine deleted that post.
Physics I understand, The interplay of engineering and physics I will admit is not part of the general database but I am a quick learner and when it comes to the dynamis of physics and engineering vis-a-vis the WTC, I've got a pretty good grasp on how they hver been melded in form, function and, ultimately, destruction.

war posted on 2009-03-26 12:52:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1440. To: FormerLurker (#1438)
You drooling retard, you heard them because they hit OUTSIDE the buildings and that is what you heard.

Explain all the materials that ejected from both towers.
Thanks.

war posted on 2009-03-26 12:53:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1441. To: war (#1429)
And BTW, there has to be something to explode for it to explode. The majority of the planes sliced through the buildings and were shredded as they passed through it.
THEY DIDN'T EXPLODE, and ANY EXPLOSION WAS OUTSIDE AS THE FUEL TANKS BURST. Sure there was an initial fuel fire on the impacted floors, but it's not as if C4 had been detonated, it was a FUEL FIRE that lasted several minutes.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-26 12:53:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1442. To: Rotara (#1428)
I haven't forgotten mi amigo.
Remember when he went all North American Union on people ?
All the while his brother is running a sweat shop in messico..

LOL...Aaah...YOU were one of the Freepers who had my back? Thanks bro :-)
Yep, remember JR backing the Meh-hee-cans and Jorge vs. the Minutemen...THEN banning pro-American Freepers with NO warning?? THAT was when he really jumped the shark and we KNEW he was a tool and complete phony.
His brother was exposed as exploiting Illegal labor - all the while fronting for the NAU/RINO/NWO? Geez - and this guy sill fancies himself as some kind of pro-America "conservative hero"?? Ugggh...
Jim Robinson:
BIGGEST.
FRAUD.
EVER.

Liberator posted on 2009-03-26 12:54:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1443. To: FormerLurker (#1441)
And BTW, there has to be something to explode for it to explode. The majority of the planes sliced through the buildings and were shredded as they passed through it.

Did you mean to shoot yourself in the foot?

war posted on 2009-03-26 12:54:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1444. To: F16Fighter (#1442)
I dare say you and I were "best friends" for years and years. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 12:55:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1445. To: war (#1371)
I sent several of the links from my home computer to my work computer but I just copied and pasted them so I am not sure what I have here but I based that upon an analysis I had read that was complied by an engineer who said that the force of impact and resulting damage and which caused a weight shift implied that the center o gravity of actually shifted outside of the buildings' footptint. Now, I am not an engineer so I may have misunderstood his statement. It is that statement upon which I based my statement.

So now you're denying you posted what you posted. How not surprising...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-26 12:56:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1446. To: F16Fighter (#1442)
vigilante bump

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 12:56:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1447. To: Rotara (#1434)
Yeah - Now that we're totally hijacked, America is merely NWO muscle and a printing press. UNTIL the Sheeple get a clue (if ever, and before it's TOO too late.)

Liberator posted on 2009-03-26 12:58:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1448. To: war (#1443)
I don't have time to waste on trolls. I've already wasted WAY too much time on you, as you are NOT trying to debate anything, you're just clinging to the "muzzies hate us for our freedom" bullshit and twist yourself into a pretzel trying to concoct versions of the events that will satisfy your concept of what happened.
I have more important things to do than to argue with an idiot.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-03-26 12:58:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1449. To: F16Fighter (#1447)
I don't see how those with their hands out will ever turn on their master.
That means not only is the vote fixed, it's not even viable because of self interest.
Mob Rule
The only way out is going to require bloodshed.
Wish I were wrong.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 13:01:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1450. To: war (#1437)
NOwhere in my statement did I mean to exclude mine, mon frer...
Did you hear about the F-22 yesterday, dude?

Lol, I realize we're ALL guilty of methane emissions now and then...
No, I did not hear about the F-22...Did it mistakenly drop a bomb anywhere near DC? ;-)

Liberator posted on 2009-03-26 13:01:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1451. To: Rotara (#1444)
I dare say you and I were "best friends" for years and years. ;-)

Really? This is like "What's My Line"!

Liberator posted on 2009-03-26 13:02:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1452. To: F16Fighter (#1451)
LOL

yup

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-26 13:03:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1453. To: F16Fighter (#1450)
No, I did not hear about the F-22...

One augered in near Edwards...

war posted on 2009-03-26 13:03:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1454. To: Rotara (#1446)
vigilante bump

AYE!

Liberator posted on 2009-03-26 13:06:07 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#1455. To: war (#1453)
The F-22 test pilot went down...too bad...
It's also too bad he was about 3,000 miles from making a "statement" ;-)

Liberator posted on 2009-03-26 13:08:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#1456. To: FormerLurker (#1445)
So now you're denying you posted what you posted. How not surprising...

That is not saying that I do not understand PHYSICS, doof.
I understand the concept of C/G and I understand how structural engineers use engineering to counter the affects of gravity which would explicate the need for a fixed center of gravity...from the way that ststement reads, it appeared to me to imply that the shifting weight loads of the impact implied that the form of the structure became IRREGULAR to its design and thus the center of gravity shifted away from its fixed point. If that is incorrect then it is incorrect. It is an observation that affects NOTHING.
It's not as if I claimed that the planes waited until after they were shred to bits as they passed through the structure and then passed outside of the structure to explode.

war posted on 2009-03-26 13:10:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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