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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
Author: m e
Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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Officer Jack McLamb's shows:
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#1989. To: war (#1985)
Doesn't look at all deceptive to me. Nothing in that statement states anything with regard to all the steel...supporting."
WTF are you babbling about, Moonie. Not only have I stated that on here several times...I've stated it for YEARS. Dude...it's obvious that through our exchanges, you either don't read what I post or you are of such obvious derangement that you don't comprehend what you read.
WQhy would any other steel need to be analyzed? BTW, if you want to bicth and moan about the clean up speed then I would be in agreement. I beleive ti's criminal that the greedheads were talking about rebuilding the site within a day of the attack and that they tried to thwart the recovery so that they could start construction.
Huh? You need to start subtitling your responses. I can't read Moronese.
Huh? The 13 seconds, dickweed, was for WTC 7... More proof that you're functionally stupid.
Lie.
way past correlation, we're talking cause and flipping effect, pal! yes, i erred, hopefully not a capital offense. whatsoever i cannot claim, that sentence above does not help to disconfuse matters. acceleration = faster (increasing speed)
That's a decptinve [sic] statment [sic] ... You're joking, right? You didn't just ask "why should a criminal investigation investigate the location and debris within and surrounding the area of a crime scene?"
Neither your cause nor your effect are steeped in anything remotelyuresembling reality.
Nope. You are claiming that a controlled demo;lition occurred. To use one of your fellow Moonbat's phraseology...you can't even support he "effect" of a CD which makes your argument of "cause" moot.
Here's some pictures of the WTC 7 fires. Here's some pictures from an overwhelming tower fire, in China this last February. One collapsed, the other didn't. Compare, contrast, discuss.
#1990. To: FormerLurker (#1986)
AH! Finally you commit to a specific collapse time, after several weeks of posturing on your part, that's amazing.
#1991. To: litus (#1989)
Nothing in that statement states anything with regard to all the steel...supporting."
#1992. To: RickyJ (#1988)
Oh, so you think the columns became wet noodles too?
#1993. To: FormerLurker (#1986)
Anyways, since the free fall speed from the top of the towers would be 9.2 seconds, how do you account for the destruction of 100 floors of undamaged steel and cement in 3.8 seconds?
#1994. To: Elliott Jackalope (#1980)
that the fires burning inside WTC 7 were hardly overwhelming
#1995. To: war (#1979)
speed has a direct correlation to the accelerative force of gravity
You cannot claim that an object fell at free fall speed while also claiming that it did not accelerate as such.
#1996. To: war (#1991)
(Edited)
none of the WTC 7 steel was analyzed by NIST. What happened to the rest of the steel from the crime scene?
WQhy [sic] would any other steel need to be analyzed?
#1997. To: postpunk (#1995)
we're talking cause and flipping effect
#1998. To: litus (#1996)
You're joking, right?
#1999. To: war (#1994)
 | Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#2000. To: Elliott Jackalope (#1999)
I postred a video on here that shows WTC 7 burning out of control. I also posted a photo showing smoke pouring from the entirity of the South face if WTC7...
#2001. To: war (#1998) (Edited)
You're joking, right? You didn't just ask "why should a criminal investigation investigate the location and debris within and surrounding the area of a crime scene?" War: Nope. You are claiming that a controlled demo;lition occurred. To use one of your fellow Moonbat's phraseology...you can't even support he "effect" of a CD which makes your argument of "cause" moot. So, you are admitting that the investigation into the fire and collapse of a skyscraper, which could have led to the deaths of hundreds of people, began, at the outset, with the presumption that the CRIME SCENE was not, in fact, a crime scene. The authorities (police, FBI, CIA, etc.) ruled out a crime had occurred from the outset, prior to conducting any investigations, gathering evidence, and speaking to witnesses could have occurred. From the moment of the CRIME...it was deemed "accidental" in nature, and the authorities subsequently only followed policy and procedures for accidents! Yet this was a crime of infamous proportions!
War: WQhy [sic] would any other steel need to be analyzed?
[NOTE to War: No steel, whatsoever, from the WTC7 was analyzed]
#2002. To: war, Elliott Jackalope (#2000)
You're a liar. You posted a picture of Building 5 and called it Building 7. Building 5 was engulfed in flames, yet didn't collapse.
I postred a video on here that shows WTC 7 burning out of control.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#2003. To: war (#1993)
How long did it take for WTC 1 and WTC 2 to collapse then? BTW, do you have a source for your claim that it took WTC7 13 seconds to collapse? From what I've seen, it takes less than half that time for it to collapse in slow motion.
The 13 seconds, dickweed, was for WTC 7... More proof that you're functionally stupid.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#2004. To: FormerLurker, litusm Elliott Jackalope, Litus, wudidiz (#2002)
War is either senile or he needs a new pair of eye glasses.
#2005. To: Elliott Jackalope (#1999)
#2006. To: FormerLurker (#2003)
Asked and answered.
How long did it take for WTC 1 and WTC 2 to collapse then
#2007. To: FormerLurker (#2003)
read the thread. I'm done repeating myself.
BTW, do you have a source for your claim that it took WTC7 13 seconds to collapse? From what I've seen, it takes less than half that time for it to collapse in slow motion.
#2008. To: FormerLurker (#2002)
Dickhead...that was posted when you said that none of the WTC buildings were engulfed in flames...
You're a liar. You posted a picture of Building 5 and called it Building 7. Building 5 was engulfed in flames, yet didn't collapse.
#2009. To: war, FormerLurker, Elliott Jackalope, Litus, wudidiz (#2004)
Analysis of WTC's north tower collapse indicative of controlled demolition.
#2010. To: war (#2005)
I just watched that video from beginning to end. I do not see anything in that video to change my mind. Once again, while that was a good-sized fire, and it made a lot of smoke, that doesn't change the fact that the fire was hardly overwhelming, and I am simply unable to accept the idea that a fire of that size and nature was able to result in the total structural failure of a steel-framed skyscraper. Especially when there have been huge skyscraper fires before and since, and none of them have ever resulted in the total structural failure and collapse of a building.
| Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#2011. To: war (#1997)
what? cause-->gravity effect-->unsupported objects gather velocity in a calculable manner due to said gravity your reality differs?
Neither your cause nor your effect are steeped in anything remotelyuresembling reality.
#2012. To: Elliott Jackalope (#2010)
FDNY disagrees with your assessment thus obviating your "fact" to bullshit.
I just watched that video from beginning to end. I do not see anything in that video to change my mind. Once again, while that was a good-sized fire, and it made a lot of smoke, that doesn't change the fact that the fire was hardly overwhelming
#2013. To: Elliott Jackalope, war (#2010)
The gumbint, the media and war all say it happened that way. Anyone that disagrees shall be called names and have fecal matter thrown at them.
I am simply unable to accept the idea that a fire of that size and nature was able to result in the total structural failure of a steel-framed skyscraper.
#2014. To: postpunk (#2011)
Did I stutter? cause-->gravity blah blah blah You don;t tap dance very well. You claimed thatg something "caused" those buildings to effectively collapse at free fall speed. They did not collapse at free fall speed.
what?
#2015. To: bluegrass (#2013)
Oh please...you Moonies can;t even agree on what "the government" says.
The gumbint, the media and war all say it happened that way. Anyone that disagrees shall be called names and have fecal matter thrown at them.
#2016. To: war (#2015)
Excellent, grasshopper. You're learning some manners. I'm a good influence.
Oh please
#2017. To: war (#2015)
You're joking, right? You didn't just ask "why should a criminal investigation investigate the location and debris within and surrounding the area of a crime scene?" War: Nope. You are claiming that a controlled demo;lition occurred. To use one of your fellow Moonbat's phraseology...you can't even support he "effect" of a CD which makes your argument of "cause" moot. So, you are admitting that the investigation into the fire and collapse of a skyscraper, which could have led to the deaths of hundreds of people, began, at the outset, with the presumption that the CRIME SCENE was not, in fact, a crime scene. The authorities (police, FBI, CIA, etc.) ruled out a crime had occurred from the outset, prior to conducting any investigations, gathering evidence, and speaking to witnesses could have occurred. From the moment of the CRIME...it was deemed "accidental" in nature, and the authorities subsequently only followed policy and procedures for accidents! Yet this was a crime of infamous proportions!
Oh please...you Moonies can;t even agree on what "the government" says.
War: WQhy [sic] would any other steel need to be analyzed?
[NOTE to War: No steel, whatsoever, from the WTC7 was analyzed]
#2018. To: war (#2012)
| Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#2019. To: war (#2008)
You are a liar. You were speaking specifically about WTC 7, and I asked you about that image at least twice in regards to its identification, yet you ignored me each time.
Dickhead...that was posted when you said that none of the WTC buildings were engulfed in flames...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#2020. To: war (#2006)
You never offered your own words, so give me what YOU think that number is. Tell me how long you think it took each tower to fall.
Asked and answered.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#2021. To: war (#2007)
So you admit that you made that number up, right? You're telling me that you can not post a link that backs up your claim that it took WTC 7 thirteen seconds to collapse, correct?
read the thread. I'm done repeating myself.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#2022. To: war (#2014)
Now WHICH buildings are you talking about war? WTC1, WTC2, or WTC7. How long DID each building take to collapse, and give us some PROOF of what you claim.
They did not collapse at free fall speed.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#2023. To: war (#2014)
yes not dancing with your clumsy self, i'm trying to help you perceive simple, basic physical concepts. never mind about collapsing structures for a moment. if you drop a penny from you hand it will accelerate towards the earth because the earth is massive and nothing hinders the penny in the interval. acceleration (the rate of change of velocity) due to gravity means precisely that speed will increase. this is calculable. there is no such thing as a set "free fall speed" (sic) (unless we're discussing orbiting bodies, as the more exact term velocity will change since it is expressed as a vector, and thus change in direction will be included in the term (not just scalar speed) (unless a vector for orbital free fall were presented in polar coordinates perhaps or as a path integral maybe, but lets keep it simple, sweety: gravity causes acceleration which by definition is increasing speed)). back to buildings: the nice high school math teacher has shown (to any reasonable, informed person) that wtc7's collapse didn't merely approach free fall, but, in fact, balls-to-the-wall was equivalent to free fall for a significant portion of the collapse. are you following?
Did I stutter?
You don;t tap dance very well. You claimed thatg something "caused" those buildings to effectively collapse at free fall speed.
They did not collapse at free fall speed.
#2024. To: war (#2014)
Proof? Links?
They did not collapse at free fall speed.
#2025. To: war (#1992) (Edited)
Huh? You need to start subtitling your responses. I can't read Moronese. Not a good response war. You think the core columns were "pulled" inward by the same load they had on them before becasue the floor sagged some? WTH? Are you retarded? You think the core columns could be pulled by a mass that it has held up for about 30 years with no problem just because of a few fires and relatively MINOR exterior damage. You are smoking some serious shit dude.
Oh, so you think the columns became wet noodles too?
God is always good!
#2026. To: Rotara (#1089)
Please explain why WTC 7 was demolished and why they lied about it in spite of eyewitnesses and the building owner's own words ? Oooh, ooh! The nefarious "they". Who are they, and why should I care? Ancient history, and internet gossip, Jackass.
Dumb phuck,
#2027. To: Rotara (#1089)
F*ckstick, I just wanted to mention that it's in poor taste to bring comments from one site and post them to another in the manner you do it. No discussion, no room for discourse, just slanderous comments. You're acting like the Crevo's on ToS vs the Evo's on Darwin Central.
Dumb phuck,
#2028. To: Sarajevo (#2026) (Edited)
Ancient history, and internet gossip, Jackass. "They" are your worst nightmare. "They" will toss you aside and eat your children when they are done using you. 9/11 is no more ancient history than the alleged "Holocaust" the Jews like to talk about is. The only difference is, one is fact, the other is fiction.
Oooh, ooh! The nefarious "they". Who are they, and why should I care?
God is always good!
#2029. To: Rotara, packrat1145 (#1089) (Edited)
Packrat1145 is the slimy little Jew that wants to kill all Palestinians. Someone needs to take care of the new "Hitker" before he tries.
God is always good!
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