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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
Author: m e
Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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#349. To: James Deffenbach (#347)
The Otards know no shame.
The Feds are swamped as there's thousands of them now. I'm a leaderless decentralized cell of one. ; )
All of us are STILL blind. The first step is admitting it.
Your hero, the Obamasiah, has not produced a "Certificate of Live Birth" but a CERTIFICATION. There is a difference. He isn't my hero, I didn't even vote for him. Certificate certification who gives a shit, its legal proof in any court of the circumstances of his birth. The name of it is truly irrelevant. Not when Obama got his, and not one that lists his city of birth as Honolulu. Strike one. The grandma story is a fake. The audio you birther truthers claim is about Obama's father. Strike two. How would an Ambassador know if Obama was born there? You think they have every birth stored in their memories. He is on record saying Obama wasn't born there. That document is given to everyone who asks for a duplicate birth certificate. Everyone. Its fully legal, and is proof in any court of the circumstances of his birth, by Hawaiian law. And yes the state of Hawaii gives full credit to it. Strike Three. What you are talking about is a native hawaiian program where you must prove that not only you were born in Hawaii but your parents where both born in Hawaii. In that case that document isn't allowed, not because it can't be trusted as being accurate, but because it doesn't list the city of his parents birth. Like all conspiracy theorists you go out and try to find seeds of doubt to prove your forgone conclusion. And you can't even do that, so you must misrepresent what you find. The document Obama has shown is just as legal as any birth certificate in the nation. He can use it to get a drivers license, passport, social security card, anything.
He just wants to protect his privacy by hiding the original, right?
The Otards know no shame. You are the one who has no shame. You have absolutely no drive to find the truth, and instead believe anything that fits your biased opinions. Its rather weak behavior.
Most excellent. Willie "has issues" to say the least.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Who knows, maybe he lost it. Either way his original is going to match the certification of live birth so what is the difference?
Deny, deny, deny Spin, spin, spin If he won't show his s#it, he's not legit. Just for starters, cough it up and let's talk then.
According to Hawaiian officials, it's not lost. Obama's just spent a huge chunk of change making sure it stays out of sight. But continue on with your faith and belief in yet another corrupt, narcissistic president.
Well, I don't have any children of my own but do have nieces and nephews. And if they came to force one of them to "volunteer" they might go back whence they came with something they never left with.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Dont bother to strain anything. Just a friendly reminder to pilgrims from LP, the rules are different here. We sort of like it this way. If anti semetic remarks offend you, I suggest you grow a thicker skin. I was thrown out of FR, Lucys, LP and one or two more because I tired of people flying the anti semetic flag day after day. Just trying to be helpful, your other friends will read all of this and take heed, so you have served a purpose.
The State of Hawaii, statute 338, allows foreign born children of Hawaiian residents to get a Hawaiian birth certificate. Mr. Obama has never presented any corroborating evidence that he was actually born in Hawaii. His paternal grandmother in Kenya and the ambassador of Kenya made statements that he was born in Kenya. The image that Mr. Obama has posted on the Internet was not a valid birth certificate, but rather a limited value document, called Short Version Certification of Live Birth. The Certification of Live Birth does not name a hospital, name a doctor, have any signatures or a seal of the Hawaiian Health Department on the front of the document. This document is usually given to parties that don't have a proper hospital birth certificate and it is given based on a statement of one relative only. Even the state of Hawaii doesn't give full credit to these documents Hi James LOL I was born in middle of night and I think Dr Sussman was either sleepy (or tipsy) Love, Palo
Your mind may be comin' back to you. ahaha. Thank you for the nice compliment and the one about my tagline. It's the one I have used as long as I have been posting here I think.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Steve Allen was a young man in that clip. So long ago.
You'll not be gettin' any of that, laddie. Faith and begorrah, it was all used up on 9/11 and good that it was toooooooo!!!! 'Tis a good thing that they only made one batch of that devil's brew. >(;^{]
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I need some of that to get rid of an old brick wall in the yard. I hear they stopped making it on 9/11/01. The refinery is in West Palm Beach, Florida right next to the Stormfront offices. Magickal Jet Fuel™ - Guaranteed to dissolve any concrete or masonry structure into powder in 1 hour or less. A little (freefall) drop'll do ya!
According to Hawaiian officials, it's not lost. Obama's just spent a huge chunk of change making sure it stays out of sight. Oh you mean why doesn't he get Hawaii to release the vault copy? Why should he respond to people who clearly hate his guts. I wouldn't respond to them either. He showed legal proof, and that is the end of the story for rational people. Would you guys really change your mind if he showed the original copy? Of course not. Your track record on believing wild claims with no evidence about Obama is clear. You hate Obama, and will believe anything that makes him illegitimate. Hey I understand I used to think that way. It has the bonus of keeping you guys focused on a dead end. You've already spent close to a year on a wild goose chase. Instead you could have been doing real investigative work on his past dealings in Chicago. I'm sure there is some corruption there. Instead you create vast conspiracies that involve some 18 year old liberal white girl flying to Kenya to have her baby, then sneaking him back just so her black baby can someday be President of the USA. Yea right...
Flying raft of bull fucking shit. If he don't show his shit, he AIN'T LEGIT ! IMPEACH OBAMA !!
They are a funny bunch. They always SEEMED to be small-government libertarian's when Bush was president and they talked mighty nasty about him (which didn't bother me any, so did I because I thought he was a disaster). But then their Obamasiah comes along promising some undefined "HOPE & CHANGE™" and is clearly on the same team with Bush but they will not hear a discouraging word about him. Makes me think they might have been worshipers of the letter D after all.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Just like the rest of your post, that is bs. I had to send a certified copy of my actual birth certificate to get a passport. I couldn't have gotten one with that pos Photoshop thing you and your Obamasiah are so proud of.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. inDeeD !!
Hi Rhino
Doctors then were even more loath to do paperwork than now. It was probably filled out by a nurse or clerk and the only thing that was actually from the doc was his signature. At one of the hospitals here in the eighties if possible they would have the student nurses obtain the info, fill out the checklist form for birth data, give it to the ward clerk, who filled in her part with addresses and such and typed it out on an official form. Then put it in the docs mail box for their signature. Where it went from there and how it got the "Official Seal" I don't personally know.
This is just as good as the one Obama had Photoshopped on the net to con his rubes and gullible fans. There is a lot more information on an actual birth certificate than on what Obama and his sycophants are proclaiming is just as good. And just why would anyone spend hundreds of thousands of dollars of someone's money (I doubt he is spending any of his own) to hide a document that can be produced for just a few dollars? Does that make sense to anyone but a brain-dead Obot?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. same here
Just like the rest of your post, that is bs. I had to send a certified copy of my actual birth certificate to get a passport. I couldn't have gotten one with that pos Photoshop thing you and your Obamasiah are so proud of. You can use the exact document Obama has to get a passport. That is a fucking fact.
it is why I wanted Ron Paul to be President with all my heart I hope 2012 will be the BIG CHANGE and we will get a government which serves the citizens We'll RP lost, as much as that sucked. Winning about birth conspiracies will not help. RP has a campaign for liberty going, all that energy should be directed there.
Just in the alleged mind of an Obot I reckon. My birth certificate--you know that thing that the doctor signs that has a hell of a lot more info than the pos your hero produced--is what I had to use. Maybe you can tell them you love the new fuehrer and get by with a Photoshop pos like he did.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. LOL Jimmy your picture made me crack up :)
Since you are so smart--at least in your own mind--how about laying out for us exactly WHY anyone would spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep his actual birth certificate hidden. No bs about how those of us who don't trust him "hate" him--personally I trust almost no one in government--and no bs about how he "doesn't have to." Just tell us why he refuses to do so and don't give us some stupid Obot answer please.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Ah yes, 'hate'. When out of rational arguments, let's bring emotion into the picture and muddy the waters. Obama knows he's not legally eligible to be prez, hence his reluctance to show the original birth certificate. I can think of no other reason that he'd be so evasive on the issue.
Sure it does. Except to the Obamasiah worshippers.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Will it also get rid of those tough stains?
Typical m.o., isn't it?
You wouldn't want to be putting any of that on stains! One drop would blow up your whole wardrobe and leave you without zip code (homeless).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. The refugees from LP brought all of their love of government and hate of everything not Jew with them. Scruffy lot so far.
Check out the Natural Born file. Facinating stuff. It get's really juicy about half way down the page. And for a real knee slapper, check out THE CAMAPAIGN. It would sound partisan, if the stuff weren't actually true. (And sourced). Once you read through it, you have to ask, will the real Obama please stand up. THE WIFE file Michelle Obama's Makeover for America An American flag is tattooed across her naked chest and the comb is decorated with pearls, the traditional garb of a First Lady, and an American Eagle. The work, by controversial sculptor Daniel Edwards, is clearly a nod to both Mrs. Obama's ethnic roots and her position at the heart of American culture and politics. As her husband, Barack Obama, battles to win the next U. S. presidential elections, she has come under intense media spotlight, and has been likened to former First Lady Jackie Kennedy. However, Edwards said: "The goal is to create a look for Michelle Obama that eliminates excessive comparisons to Jackie Kennedy." The bust, entitled "Michelle Obama's Makeover for America" goes on display at the Leo Kesting Gallery in New York on October 1 The sculptor has managed to capture that dismissive, elitist look though."
Getting a passport is pretty much the equivalent of ascending to the north ameriKan throne !
jugs !
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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#350. To: TooConservative (#346)
You notice they seem to be concentrating on how to penetrate leaderless decentralized cell-structured organizations in the last few years.
#351. To: Rotara (#344)
I used to be blind too.
#352. To: James Deffenbach (#347)
The State of Hawaii, statute 338, allows foreign born children of Hawaiian residents to get a Hawaiian birth certificate.
Mr. Obama has never presented any corroborating evidence that he was actually born in Hawaii. His paternal grandmother in Kenya and the ambassador of Kenya made statements that he was born in Kenya.
The image that Mr. Obama has posted on the Internet was not a valid birth certificate, but rather a limited value document, called Short Version Certification of Live Birth. The Certification of Live Birth does not name a hospital, name a doctor, have any signatures or a seal of the Hawaiian Health Department on the front of the document. This document is usually given to parties that don't have a proper hospital birth certificate and it is given based on a statement of one relative only. Even the state of Hawaii doesn't give full credit to these documents.
#353. To: Rhino369 (#352)
The document Obama has shown is just as legal as any birth certificate in the nation.
#354. To: Rotara (#349)
#355. To: kUSS (#307)
Good for you Willie! You are still the biggest nitwit on the web! Did you add him next to Merc? You pussy.
Lord Acton
#356. To: bluegrass (#353)
He just wants to protect his privacy by hiding the original, right?
#357. To: Rhino369 (#354)
LOL
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#358. To: Rhino369 (#356)
Who knows, maybe he lost it.
#359. To: nooz (#313)
Well there's a plan for 'drop-outs' too. This thing is incredible.
Lord Acton
#360. To: TooConservative (#315)
Hmmm...I'm just trying to discern whether you are the official spokesman for Christine or the official spokesman for all 4um posters.
#361. To: James Deffenbach (#347)
the Obamasiah has not produced a "Certificate of Live Birth" but a CERTIFICATION. There is a difference.
thank you for writing this informative post
I did not know all this
I got out a copy of my birth certicate, from Department of Health in Manhattan
it is a copy of the original birth certificate signed by Dr Sussman (who delivered me)
I am surprised at all the information on there
what time my mom was admitted to the maternity hospital
how long she was in labor
what time I was born
and what time Dr Sussman signed the birth certificate
it also has both my parents ages on it, where they worked, and their jobs back then
he got my mom's age wrong (by 3 years)
also he wrote down she was a housewife, she was actually a nurse back then
#362. To: palo verde (#317)
Your posts are intelligent, I appreciate reading them
Lord Acton
#363. To: Jethro Tull (#324)
#364. To: bluegrass (#345)
I need some of that to get rid of an old brick wall in the yard. I hear they stopped making it on 9/11/01.
Lord Acton
#365. To: bluegrass (#345)
Magickal Jet Fuel™.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#366. To: bluegrass (#358)
#367. To: Rhino369 (#366)
Why should he respond
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#368. To: Rotara (#349)
The Otards know no shame.
Lord Acton
#369. To: Rhino369 (#352)
The document Obama has shown is just as legal as any birth certificate in the nation. He can use it to get a drivers license, passport, social security card, anything.
Lord Acton
#370. To: James Deffenbach (#368)
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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#371. To: Rhino369 (#356)
I don't know where Obama was actually born, but it is not a cause for me
I think native born citizen is in the Constitution because our Founders did not want a President loyal to another country
I personally think Obama's loyalty is only to the Dem Party, whose loyalty is to CitiBank and Goldman Sachs
but this is not un-Constitutional
serving special interests instead of serving the citizens has been with us since the start of our country's history
I was surprised to read in George Washington's Farewell Address how much he warned that special interests are controlling everything in politics now
and I guess it never changed
it is why I wanted Ron Paul to be President with all my heart
I hope 2012 will be the BIG CHANGE
and we will get a government which serves the citizens
Love, Palo
#372. To: James Deffenbach (#369)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#373. To: palo verde (#361)
LOL I was born in middle of night and I think Dr Sussman was either sleepy (or tipsy) he got my mom's age wrong (by 3 years) also he wrote down she was a housewife, she was actually a nurse back then
#374. To: palo verde (#361)
Lord Acton
#375. To: James Deffenbach (#369)
I had to send a certified copy of my actual birth certificate to get a passport.
mine was a copy which I had gotten from the Health Dept in Manhattan 20 years ago
I went down and waited in line and paid for the copy
it had the Seal of the Health Dept stamped on it
but I still had long conversation with the gov. bureaucrat on phone last year whether he would accept it
Bureaucracy about birth certificate is now incredibly strict!
Love, Palo
#376. To: James Deffenbach (#369)
#377. To: palo verde (#371)
#378. To: Rhino369 (#376)
You can use the exact document Obama has to get a passport. That is a fucking fact.
Lord Acton
#379. To: James Deffenbach (#374)
that is funny
and your points are all true
we are all called to different causes
and mine seems to be the one about Obama and Dems corruption with CitiBank
but I am starting to see the value and appreciate the efforts of posters who are determined to get the truth of the birth certificate
The truth matters, always!
Love, Palo
#380. To: Rhino369 (#376)
Lord Acton
#381. To: Rhino369 (#366)
Why should he respond to people who clearly hate his guts.
#382. To: palo verde (#379)
The truth matters, always!
Lord Acton
#383. To: James Deffenbach, Esso (#364)
Magickal Jet Fuel™
#384. To: bluegrass, Rhino369 (#381)
Ah yes, 'hate'. When out of rational arguments, let's bring emotion into the picture and muddy the waters.
#385. To: bluegrass (#383)
Lord Acton
#386. To: bluegrass (#383)
#387. To: James Deffenbach (#347)
Want to have some fun?
"The powerful clay work shows Michelle Obama in the style of an African Queen, wearing large hooped earrings and an "afro pick" comb in her Egyptian- influenced hairstyle.
Makeover for America -- no thanks -- you can keep your makeover -- and comparison to Jackie O -- not on her worst day -- that bust is just scary.
#388. To: Rhino369 (#376)
You can use the exact document Obama has to get a passport.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#389. To: nooz (#387)
The work, by controversial sculptor Daniel Edwards, is clearly a nod to both Mrs. Obama's ethnic roots and her
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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