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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
Author: m e
Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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Views: 10981
Comments: 2261

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#446. To: Rhino369 (#442)

Why don't YOU use some "common sense" and tell us all why your hero won't produce his real birth certificate? Of course the reason you don't use any is because you don't have any

Because he doesn't have to, and gains nothing by doing so.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahahhahahahahahhaahahAHAHAHAHAaaahahhhaaaahahaha !


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-22   15:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#447. To: nooz (#434)

To be a natural born citizen, a person's parents must BOTH be citizens of the United States of America.

Please cite the Title, Chapter and Section of the US Code to which you are referring.

Thanks...

Further, that person must be born in the United States.

We'll correct you on this one after you source US law on the former...

war  posted on  2009-03-22   15:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#448. To: Rhino369 (#432)

Oxford English dictionary has defined it that way since before the constitution was written.

The OED wasn't around when the Constitution was written. Are there any other facts you're making up as you go along?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-22   15:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#449. To: Rhino369 (#442)

Because he doesn't have to, and gains nothing by doing so.

"He doesn't have to" sounds like a kid's argument--a retarded kid. He would have gained a few hundred thousand dollars, or at least not had to spend it (and it was probably someone else's so he really didn't care) if he would have simply produced the actual birth certificate. And I can only think of two reasons why he insists on keeping it hidden. Either it shows that he was not born in Hawaii as he claims or it may show that his father is not who he says. I can think of no reason, other than those two, why he would refuse to show it. But keep on defending him. I am sure he appreciates gullible stooges.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-22   15:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#450. To: James Deffenbach (#449)

I can think of no reason, other than those two, why he would refuse to show it. But keep on defending him. I am sure he appreciates gullible stooges.

Maybe it has Daddy's real name on there. ~(%^|


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-22   15:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#451. To: Rhino369 (#435)

I don't think our government is illegitimate.

There's your problem right there.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-22   15:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#452. To: James Deffenbach (#426) (Edited)

I have always thought that "First Lady" was pure bs--why would any man call someone else's wife "the first lady"? Some ah member of the press fawning over one of them for a story must have come up with that idiocy.

Well I had to find out:

"First spouse or friend or what??

I think it sort of proves your point.

What happens if Queen Latifah becomes President someday? Hillary would have a cow.

edited.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-22   15:33:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#453. To: bluegrass (#422)

Obama's a citizen, but not a natural born citizen.

Do you need to be reminded as to how resoundingly I bitch slapped you - to the point of humiliation - over this Moonbat belief?

war  posted on  2009-03-22   15:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#454. To: bluegrass (#448)

The OED wasn't around when the Constitution was written. Are there any other facts you're making up as you go along?

You are right I'm sorry.

The Oxford English Dictionary lists it as being defined that since the 16th century. It didn't actually list it in 1790s because like you said it didn't exist.

I'm sorry for spreading false info.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-22   15:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#455. To: James Deffenbach (#449)

"He doesn't have to" sounds like a kid's argument--a retarded kid.

No its the simple truth. He doesn't have to and its not hurting him at all.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-22   15:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#456. To: Rhino369 (#455)

"He doesn't have to" sounds like a kid's argument--a retarded kid.

No its the simple truth. He doesn't have to and its not hurting him at all.

LOL LMAO !! STOP IT ALREADY !!! FOFLOL


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-22   15:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#457. To: war (#453)

Link to the bitch-slap. As I recall, I gave you an education in Vattel and the writing of the Constitution.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-22   15:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#458. To: Rhino369 (#441)

Your chart is bullshit. Read the laws and opinions it cites, and nothing in them says what it claims.

You sound testy. Do you need a nap?

nooz  posted on  2009-03-22   15:36:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#459. To: All, bluegrass (#454)

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-22   15:37:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#460. To: nooz (#458)

You sound testy. Do you need a nap?

No I'm fussy cause I'm hungry.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-22   15:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#461. To: Rotara (#443)

maybe crayons would help them to understand more better

ROFL!

nooz  posted on  2009-03-22   15:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#462. To: Rotara (#450)

Maybe it has Daddy's real name on there. ~(%^|

Yeah, that could be it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-22   15:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#463. To: Rotara (#456)

LOL LMAO !! STOP IT ALREADY !!! FOFLOL

You think discussion on sites like Freedom4um or FreeRepublic, and law suits by Berg, and Keyes mean anything in the real world?

You exist on the fringe of the political map, you must know that. It doesn't necessarily mean you are wrong, but if you don't realized you represent a tiny fraction of the American people how can you hope to actually do anything.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-22   15:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#464. To: war (#447)

Please cite the Title, Chapter and Section of the US Code to which you are referring.

Thanks...

Did you look at the chart?

Let's try it again. You need to actually click on the link and a whole new page will open up.

www.theobamafile.com/Oba maNaturalBorn.htm

nooz  posted on  2009-03-22   15:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#465. To: Rhino369 (#454)

Why did the Framers use the specific term 'natural born citizen' instead of just citizen?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-22   15:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#466. To: nooz, war (#464)

Why can't you answer wars question?

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-22   15:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#467. To: Rhino369 (#460)

No I'm fussy cause I'm hungry.

May I offer you some gubmit cheese?

nooz  posted on  2009-03-22   15:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#468. To: bluegrass (#465)

Why did the Framers use the specific term 'natural born citizen' instead of just citizen?

Natural born is an adjective to describe the noun citizen.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-22   15:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#469. To: nooz (#467)

May I offer you some gubmit cheese?

I like the gubmit apple juice better.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-22   15:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#470. To: Rhino369 (#463)

I think that just because a mass of propagandized big statist government worshipers love their Nanny State it doesn't mean their Nanny State loves them.

In your 'real world' it doesn't pan out either.

Wake up or not, frankly I don't give a damn. At all. You don't have the sense that God gave a dog.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-22   15:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#471. To: Rhino369 (#466)

Why can't you answer wars question?

I can, but it's plain as day on the chart, and further explained below. He yawned earlier, so he could be too tired to read it.

Maybe you can help him read it.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-22   15:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#472. To: nooz (#452)

Thanks for the link. If "Queen" Latifah became President would she be called Mr. President/First Lady Latifah? ahaha.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-22   15:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#473. To: Rhino369 (#469)

I like the gubmit apple juice better.

Tough break.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-22   15:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#474. To: nooz (#471)

I can, but it's plain as day on the chart, and further explained below. He yawned earlier, so he could be too tired to read it.

Maybe you can help him read it.

I read the law months ago when that chart was first created and realized the chart maker is a liar.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-22   15:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#475. To: Jethro Tull (#445)

OTOH, Spectre voted against CAFTA.....but a conservative that doesn't make.

litus  posted on  2009-03-22   15:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#476. To: Rhino369 (#463)

You exist on the fringe of the political map, you must know that.

For the record, if I were to have to go back to the mainstream matrix of Truman Story fairy tales - I'd find another road to travel.

The truth unfortunately is a fringe concept in a world of wolves and proud sheeple.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-22   15:44:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#477. To: James Deffenbach (#472)

Thanks for the link. If "Queen" Latifah became President would she be called Mr. President/First Lady Latifah? ahaha.

I don't know. See? Now I know her given name isn't really Queen, but I really think this could lead to some confusion down the road. We need to get on this. What if PRINCE became President? Or Dog the Bounty Hunter? We're going to have a mess on our hands. I'm worried.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-22   15:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#478. To: litus (#475)

Specter isn't an American. Sessions claim to fame is that he sometimes obeys the law of the land. Neither is fit to lead and both are prime reasons the Rs are lost in space.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-22   15:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#479. To: nooz (#477)

I don't know. See? Now I know her given name isn't really Queen, but I really think this could lead to some confusion down the road. We need to get on this. What if PRINCE became President? Or Dog the Bounty Hunter? We're going to have a mess on our hands. I'm worried.

Well, I don't think you should worry because the Obamabots have all the answers (childish and retarded sounding though they may be).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-22   15:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#480. To: Jethro Tull (#478)

I don't disagree at all. But I also think that IF there were genuine conservatives in office..........by more than at most a handful, those who have at least "tried" to be loyal to conservatism, as opposed to party loyals, this country would not be in the toilet.

litus  posted on  2009-03-22   15:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#481. To: Rhino369 (#474)

I read the law months ago when that chart was first created and realized the chart maker is a liar.

Really? Did you challenge him? By what means did you divine it's authenticity? Quija board? Gut feeling?

Nevermind. Playing with partisans is fun. No matter what evidence is presented, people have already made up their minds. It's simple really. Provide the Birth Certificate and end the debate.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-22   15:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#482. To: James Deffenbach (#479)

Well, I don't think you should worry because the Obamabots have all the answers (childish and retarded sounding though they may be).

That's true. The 'because I say so' crap is about to bite them in the butt.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-22   15:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#483. To: nooz (#481)

Really? Did you challenge him?

Nope. They won't listen to me.

By what means did you divine it's authenticity? Quija board? Gut feeling?

Reading comprehension.

Nevermind. Playing with partisans is fun.

That is funny since I'm not partisan at all. I didn't vote for either of the two parties this last election, except for my Republican congressman, who was in a tight race. And then only to balance out the democrats who I knew would win by a large margin.

No matter what evidence is presented, people have already made up their minds. It's simple really.

Man you saying that is pretty funny.

Provide the Birth Certificate and end the debate.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-22   15:58:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#484. To: James Deffenbach (#416)

What isn't obvious is WHY won't he produce an actual birth certificate? Did the dog eat it? Assuming you had the money and you were running for public office, would YOU spend hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of dollars, to hide your actual birth certificate when you could produce one for less than twenty dollars? And if you would, would that not show that you were unfit for office? Anyone would have to be a fool to go to that expense UNLESS they were hiding something and no one would spend that kind of money who wasn't hiding something. Now what could it be? Baby daddy not who he has always claimed or not born in Hawaii?

this post is so logical, that something has to be fishy
I don't know what ?
you are right, it would have to be either the father is different
or he was not born here
what else could it be ?

palo verde  posted on  2009-03-22   16:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#485. To: Rhino369 (#483)

That's not an acceptable form of proof.

As you were previously informed....anyone can get that and it doesn't prove where the person was born.

litus  posted on  2009-03-22   16:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#486. To: litus (#485)

That's not an acceptable form of proof.

By law its prima facie evidence.

As you were previously informed....anyone can get that and it doesn't prove where the person was born.

Uh no, not just anyone can get one. You don't get to make up your own facts.

PS this is why Obama won't consider your requests. Because no matter what the evidence you will create a new reason for more proof. You all just don't want Obama to be President, therefore he isn't.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-22   16:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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