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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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#738. To: Rotara (#736)
Intellectual honesty will only highlight the deep voids you possess in character and America first patriotism based on Constitutional boundaries - in the spirit of the Founders. There's no fine line; it's black and white.

Well, that's sure of mouthful of rhetoric. :-)

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:03:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#739. To: TooConservative (#731) (Edited)
And here I thought you were telling me how freely everyone could express themselves here on any topic.

Of course - just don't act all surprised when you get smacked upside the nog for being patently WRONG and / or IGNORANT. ~8^)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:04:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#740. To: meguro (#738)
Well, that's sure of mouthful of rhetoric. :-)

I'll never sell you short.
Unless I feel like it. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:06:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#741. To: litus, sneakypete, TooConservative (#705)
(litus) My recollection is that beyond Goldi's claim that "every other thread" being posted was about Ron Paul, there was lots of "spamming" type of threads, which Goldi decided to blame on "Ron Paul posters."
IIRC, that was a bald face lie. She didn't have a problem with frequent Mitt Romney threads, frequent John McCain threads, or any others who were running. Just Ron Paul and accusations that "just the spamming" was being done by Ron Paul "followers."
Ridiculous.
But Palo may have a better memory about that, since she left because of Ron Paul being verboten.
(sneakypete) I don't remember seeing frequent pro-Romney or McLunatic threads over there. Not on the order of the RP threads,anyhow.
(litus) Just Ron Paul and accusations that "just the spamming" was being done by Ron Paul "followers."
(Pete) That's the way it seemed to me,too.
Ask Palo. I think she was involved in this at some level because she was a pretty dedicated RP follower.

I think Goldi disgraced herself over Ron Paul
but Too Conservative said we (the Ron Paul followers) overdid it
that we turned whole forum into Ron Paul campaign HQ
and for posters who were not into that
we ruined the balance on the forum
TC may have a point, and perhaps Goldi was responding to that
but I don't think so
Goldi's candidate was Tancredo, she would have accepted LP becoming Tancredo all the time
if he had not dropped out
she simply didn't go for Ron Paul I have decided to overlook it that that happened, others may hold it agaist her
Love, Palo
I eventually returned to LP despite the banning of Ron Paul articles, I like the forum
and posters disobeyed the banning anyway, we always had Ron Paul threads going on

palo verde posted on 2009-03-23 1:07:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#742. To: sneakypete (#708)
I agree. I was a RP supporter myself,and was happy to read about his thoughts on different subjects,but "RON PAUL EATS A CHEESE SANDWICH FOR LUNCH!" isn't exactly breaking news or something I'm interested in reading about.

Precisely.
These forums only have a certain amount of sidebar space. I recall seeing a half-dozen or more spammy Ron Paul threads in a row. That happened a number of times. Posting like that is just an attempt to use someone's forum as your own press release site. Sometimes really good articles just disappeared and were never seen by most posters because they just got bumped off the bottom of the sidebar list.
Of course, I didn't fail to notice how all the Ron Paul threads were supposedly banned. Well, except for a constant string of Paul-hater threads and I think a couple of well-known posters at LP had a second ID to post them under so they could then leap in under their real names. It's not like it's that hard to tunnel to a remote machine or use Tor. The Paul-hater threads characteristically were a single post from some Paul-hater blog no one had ever heard of and the poster of the thread left virtually no comments of their own. One assumes this is because they were aware that we all have habitual speech patterns and that their duplicity would be readily discovered if they posted anything under their fake ID.

TooConservative posted on 2009-03-23 1:10:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#743. To: palo verde, sneakypete, TooConservative (#741)
Goldi's candidate was Tancredo, she would have accepted LP becoming Tancredo all the time if he had not dropped out

Very true; I forgot about that. She was all gungho behind Tancredo and, at the time, he wasn't doing well (was this shortly before he handed the reigns over to an open border faux conservative...shocking most Tancredo followers). RP was a genuine threat to Tancredo at the time.

litus posted on 2009-03-23 1:11:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#744. To: TooConservative (#731)
And here I thought you were telling me how freely everyone could express themselves here on any topic. Am I somehow oppressing you with only three teeny-weeny words?

Nice diversion tactic. No, I never said it, you did. This place was too "Birthier, Truthier, and Jewier". Still asking the same question. What's the problem.
Oppressed? Where did you get that idea?
I'm asking for an answer as to how you determined the above. What topics are off-limits therefore providing you a more pleasant posting experience?

I tend to only bozo those with huge colored font sigs or endless graphics. Of course, LP didn't have a sig line feature (that I noticed) so 4um is better that way; I noticed 4um's no-taglines feature just after I started using browser filters to kill them all off manually in Firefox. Obviously, Neil Ivers produced a more complete forum software for 4um; LP has an older version. I got the impression that Neil parted ways with Goldi over how the forum was run though he was too classy to start a food fight with her over it.
I really don't care.
No one asks me if I like their tagline either. I guess its just a free expression blasting itself all over the place. No neat little orderlines. Oh the humanity! LOL ;)

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:11:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#745. To: christine (#734)
My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control.

Does this just apply to you or to everyone? :-)
So what do you see as the differences between LP and here?

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:11:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#746. To: meguro, nooz (#737)
(meguro) The guy Neil who developed the software for LP which seems to be the same software that runs this site. I have no idea what his full name is.

yes it is the same software
and it is great
was his last name McIver, Neil McIver
I don't remember now
when LP started the forum owners were Neil and Goldi together
but then Neil dropped out
he was libertarian 100 per cent
Love, Palo

palo verde posted on 2009-03-23 1:12:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#747. To: palo verde (#741)
She started off wanting to start another party.
Then she took a shine to that fake patriot tancredo.
She then said some nice things about Baldwin before shilling ultimately for mcKein.
She's a goof ball, israel-first, Ron Paul hater.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:12:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#748. To: litus (#743)
RP was a genuine threat to Tancredo at the time.

tancredo supported the Traitorous MCA & NDAA legislation.
Among other travesties. The NAU-Illegal Alien Invasion was a spring board for a nobody neocon but the real tancredo couldn't hide.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:15:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#749. To: meguro (#733)
First please tell me what you mean by "LP implied software" so that I can accurately answer your question.

This is getting a bit stupid.
But, why don't you think on it a while and see if you can find where the missing comma would fit.

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:15:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#750. To: palo verde, nooz (#746)
yes it is the same software and it is great was his last name McIver, Neil McIver I don't remember now when LP started the forum owners were Neil and Goldi together but then Neil dropped out he was libertarian 100 per cent Love, Palo

Well, maybe when it was first developed it was. Now, it's a bit outdated. :-)
But it works fine, so I'm not complaining.
So Neil started this forum after leaving LP? Excuse my ignorance, as I am not familiar with the history.
Love,
Meguro

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:16:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#751. To: meguro (#737)
The guy Neil who developed the software for LP which seems to be the same software that runs this site. I have no idea what his full name is.

ROFL. This is so funny.

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:16:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#752. To: nooz (#749)
But, why don't you think on it a while and see if you can find where the missing comma would fit.

I'm genuinely stumped. I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:17:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#753. To: meguro (#750)
Good Lord.

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:18:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#754. To: nooz (#751)
ROFL. This is so funny.

Not sure what's so funny about it, but I'm already getting the impression that I don't understand much about your sense of humor.
Oh well..

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:18:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#755. To: nooz (#753)
Good Lord.

Whatever.

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:19:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#756. To: palo verde (#741)
I think Goldi disgraced herself over Ron Paul but Too Conservative said we (the Ron Paul followers) overdid it that we turned whole forum into Ron Paul campaign HQ

No, palo. I'm not talking about the regular RP supporters, just a couple of seminar posters who went totally nuts.
I'm talking about only a few that I never saw or heard of on the real RP forums either like DailyPaul or RonPaulForums. You almost had to wonder if they were provocateurs. I'm pretty much always against disruptor types. And those RP forums monitored and analyzed every forum to judge which might be friendly or unfriendly to RP posters and RP threads. I can't recall opinion on 4um but LP didn't fare too well. FR was watched very closely by RPF folk and drove them all completely nuts, especially when they saw us all getting banned, one by one because certain whiny Rudi Drag-Queen supporters or certain circumcised persons or jihadist militarists complained about our posts against warmongering liberal New Yorkers in drag, foreign aid, the war in Iraq.
palo, your RP threads were terrific as were most of the RP threads.

TooConservative posted on 2009-03-23 1:19:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#757. To: meguro (#752)
I'm genuinely stumped. I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.

Thats fine. So, alter-ego means software in your world. I'll just wrap it up there.
If you have time, what does Birther, Truther and Jewy mean?

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:20:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#758. To: Rotara (#748)
the real tancredo couldn't hide.

It was unbelievable after he dropped out and supported Romney.
Unbelievable for those who thought he was sincere all those years prior to that occurring.
Yep...Tancredo outted himself the day he endorsed that fake.

litus posted on 2009-03-23 1:20:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#759. To: litus, sneakypete, TooConservative, meguro (#743)
(Palo) Goldi's candidate was Tancredo, she would have accepted LP becoming Tancredo all the time if he had not dropped out
(litus) Very true; I forgot about that. She was all gungho behind Tancredo

Yes after Tancredo dropped out
Goldi went for that other guy, Hunter
but then he dropped out, and she did not go for Ron Paul
she didn't go for anyone that I could see
our forum was very anti-McCain
but when Sarah Palin came along
some of us (I am not mentioning any names :)
went absolutely crazy for Sarah Palin
and Goldi allowed that since she liked Sarah too
(I was the one who went crazy for Sarah Palin
and some of my fellow Ron Paul supporters lost respect for me
on the other hand the posters who called me nitwit for liking Ron Paul
had new respect for me LOL LOL LOL
Love, Palo

palo verde posted on 2009-03-23 1:22:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#760. To: nooz (#744)
This place was too "Birthier, Truthier, and Jewier". Still asking the same question. What's the problem.

Given how many times you've brought it up now, it seems there isn't any problem. LOL.
Everything is obviously just fine.

TooConservative posted on 2009-03-23 1:23:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#761. To: nooz (#757)
Thats fine. So, alter-ego means software in your world. I'll just wrap it up there.

Nope, never said that. Well I did, but it was a joke, son! Ha ha, ... and all that.
If you have time, what does Birther, Truther and Jewy mean?
Not that I use those terms myself, but I think they mean someone who believes Obama hasn't produced his birth certificate, someone who believes 9/11 was an inside job, and a Jew (although not so sure).

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:23:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#762. To: TooConservative (#756)
No, palo. I'm not talking about the regular RP supporters, just a couple of seminar posters who went totally nuts.
I'm talking about only a few that I never saw or heard of on the real RP forums either like DailyPaul or RonPaulForums. You almost had to wonder if they were provocateurs. I'm pretty much always against disruptor types. And those RP forums monitored and analyzed every forum to judge which might be friendly or unfriendly to RP posters and RP threads. I can't recall opinion on 4um but LP didn't fare too well. FR was watched very closely by RPF folk and drove them all completely nuts, especially when they saw us all getting banned, one by one because certain whiny Rudi Drag-Queen supporters or certain circumcised persons or jihadist militarists complained about our posts against warmongering liberal New Yorkers in drag, foreign aid, the war in Iraq.
palo, your RP threads were terrific as were most of the RP threads.

You are great TC
You were a brilliant and passionate supporter of Ron Paul on LP
you did everything perfectly and added so much
I am forever grateful to you
I love you
Palo

palo verde posted on 2009-03-23 1:25:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#763. To: palo verde (#759)
I liked Palin, but I hate McRino and would have never voted for him for anything or anybody in the world.
palo...you just got to do what your conscience tells you is best. You'll never be able to make everyone happy or everyone like you.
It's enough to have a few who just really appreciate you or truly love you. Forget the rest.
: )

litus posted on 2009-03-23 1:25:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#764. To: litus (#758)
Yep...Tancredo outted himself the day he endorsed that fake.

tancredo had zero chance once this got through to real Americans.
By the time he endorsed the massrino I don't personally know anyone that was surprised.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:26:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#765. To: meguro (#728)
You're more than likely an Obot.

You'll be lucky if that's the worst you get called here. ;)
Of course, you were fairly tough back at LP.

TooConservative posted on 2009-03-23 1:26:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#766. To: palo verde (#759)
I was the one who went crazy for Sarah Palin and some of my fellow Ron Paul supporters lost respect for me

There is no other hand.
You whored yourself to the cabal.
Some went for the National Globalist Marxist, you went for the Socialist.
You all messed up big time.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:28:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#767. To: palo verde (#759)
on the other hand the posters who called me nitwit for liking Ron Paul had new respect for me LOL LOL LOL

Anything to be liked ?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:28:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#768. To: palo verde (#759)
(I was the one who went crazy for Sarah Palin and some of my fellow Ron Paul supporters lost respect for me on the other hand the posters who called me nitwit for liking Ron Paul had new respect for me LOL LOL LOL Love, Palo

Well, palo, if I might offer an explanation.
Ron Paul and Sarah Palin are like night and day. It is a bit strange that you supported Sarah Palin after supporting Ron Paul. You claim to be a libertarian (is that right?), but Sarah Palin is far from libertarian.
It's just hard for some to understand, including myself.
Love,
Meguro

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:29:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#769. To: meguro, Fred Mertz, war (#762)
someone whose name I will not mention
called Sarah Palin a caribou barbie in every post
and posted pics to illustrate it
LOL you tortured me on my Sarah Palin threads, Meguro
but that is water under the bridge now too
(and some of the pics were cute!)
Love, Palo
you and Fred Mertz and War were the trio who worked against Sarah Palin as hard as I worked for her :)

palo verde posted on 2009-03-23 1:29:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#770. To: meguro (#761)
Well I did, but it was a joke, son! Ha ha, ... and all that.

And I knew that but still you just couldn't quite bring youreself to answer up. Whatever.
If you have time, what does Birther, Truther and Jewy mean?
Not that I use those terms myself, but I think they mean someone who believes Obama hasn't produced his birth certificate, someone who believes 9/11 was an inside job, and a Jew (although not so sure).
Well, maybe you can get TooConservative to define Jewy. I don't know what he/she/it means either.
As for the first two, what's the problem? Why are those two things so horribly uncomfortable, but somehow torture, genocide, spying of little interest to LP'rs?
Too Jewy?

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:29:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#771. To: Rotara (#764)
By the time he endorsed the massrino I don't personally know anyone that was surprised.

Thanks for the link; I've bookmarked it to read later (hopefully tomorrow, when my brain isn't as dead).
By the time he endorsed him, maybe not....but you must admit there was lots of anger or outrage over that...why? Because...it was "unbelievable" IF he was being true to how he had presented himself for years before; he betrayed others' belief and trust in him. That's why.

litus posted on 2009-03-23 1:30:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#772. To: palo verde (#769)
you and Fred Mertz and War were the trio who worked against Sarah Palin as hard as I worked for her :)

This didn't take long.
oy vey

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:31:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#773. To: litus (#763)
I liked Palin, but I hate McRino and would have never voted for him for anything or anybody in the world.
palo...you just got to do what your conscience tells you is best. You'll never be able to make everyone happy or everyone like you.
It's enough to have a few who just really appreciate you or truly love you. Forget the rest.
: )

you are kind Litus to write me such a lovely and understanding post
i appreciate it
Love, Palo

palo verde posted on 2009-03-23 1:31:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#774. To: palo verde (#773)
yw Palo.
: )

litus posted on 2009-03-23 1:32:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#775. To: TooConservative (#760)
Given how many times you've brought it up now, it seems there isn't any problem. LOL.
Everything is obviously just fine.

I was just asking to understand you. It seemed to bother you enough to note them. I still haven't seen what brought you to those conclusions after a day or so of posting. Seems hardly enough time to evaluate the forum or it's posters.

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:33:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#776. To: litus (#771)
You had to be drinking some series tancredo kool aid to miss his anti-American votes for MCA and NDAA.
That was an exceedingly strong set of clues, over and above the war mongering official fairy tale crap.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:33:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#777. To: nooz (#770)
And I knew that but still you just couldn't quite bring youreself to answer up. Whatever.

Took till your last post for me to even know what you were asking, dude. Commas are indeed important, aren't they?
Not that I use those terms myself, but I think they mean someone who believes Obama hasn't produced his birth certificate, someone who believes 9/11 was an inside job, and a Jew (although not so sure).
Well, maybe you can get TooConservative to define Jewy. I don't know what he/she/it means either.
As for the first two, what's the problem? Why are those two things so horribly uncomfortable, but somehow torture, genocide, spying of little interest to LP'rs?
Too Jewy?
Why are you asking me? I think those things are horrible. I don't share the opinions of many on LP.

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:33:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#778. To: palo verde (#769)
You worked for Sara Palin?
That's great! Are you going to the meet up groups to draft her as a candidate in 2012?
I think I might. It could be a lot of fun.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2009-03-23 1:35:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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