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Title: TODAY! On the ALEX JONES SHOW we have...
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Post Date: 2009-04-01 07:07:12 by PSUSA
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Alex talks with Bob Schulz of We The People, gets an update from Infowars producers Rob Dew and Jason Douglass, who are on the road in California covering the homeless situation and California's attempt to put the displaced in a concentration camp at Cal-Expo,...

Emphasis mine-psusa

Ontario, CA, Tent City Residents Required to Wear Wristbands

David Kelly,

Los Angeles Times
March 30, 2009

Dozens of Ontario police and code enforcement officers descended upon the homeless encampment known as Tent City early Monday, separating those who could stay from those to be evicted.

Large, often confused, crowds formed ragged lines behind police barricades where officers handed out color-coded wristbands. Blue meant they were from Ontario and could remain. Orange indicated they had to provide more proof to avoid ejection, and white meant they had a week to leave.”

Many who had taken shelter at the camp — which had grown from 20 to more than 400 residents in nine months — lacked paperwork, bills or birth certificates proving they were once Ontario residents.

“When my husband gets out of jail he can bring my marriage certificate; will that count?” asked one tearful woman.

Another resident, clearly confused, seemed relieved to get a white band — not understanding it meant she had to leave.

Pattie Barnes, 47, who had her motor home towed away last week, shook with anger.

“They are tagging us because we are homeless,” she said, staring at her orange wristband. “It feels like a concentration camp.”

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#1. To: All (#0)

Large, often confused, crowds formed ragged lines behind police barricades where officers handed out color-coded wristbands. Blue meant they were from Ontario and could remain. Orange indicated they had to provide more proof to avoid ejection, and white meant they had a week to leave.”

Many who had taken shelter at the camp — which had grown from 20 to more than 400 residents in nine months — lacked paperwork, bills or birth certificates proving they were once Ontario residents.

So let me get this straight.

There is nothing about barbed wire, armed camp guards, German Shepherd dogs or any of the accoutrements of a Stalag 13 type of camp, but he intentionally uses the catch phrase "concentration camp" because Ontario residents need to prove they lived there?

What would you reasonably expect to happen if Ontario suddenly became Tent City Central for the entire LA area? That is a big area, you know.

Sheesh, you'd thing he'd learn not to do this.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   7:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA (#1) (Edited)

I'd also like to know what difference it makes where people used to live. They go there merely for the "safety in numbers" rationale. F the jackboots. I also don't care what AJ is screaming about because I don't listen. There are much more important things to do than help make a rich man richer.

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IndieTX  posted on  2009-04-01   7:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: IndieTX (#2)

I think it's to keep it from getting too crowded. There is safety in numbers, but there is danger in numbers too.

I'd sure hate to think what would happen if it got out of control there. Ontario is not that big of a city. It's also not the best of areas too. Fontana is right next door, and it's a hellhole.

I've been in that area many times. .

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   7:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA (#0)

the homeless encampment known as Tent City

How original. No one had ever thought of that one before. Such creativity makes one wonder why they're homeless. On second thought, the cops and media probably came up with the name.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-04-01   7:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PSUSA (#0) (Edited)

Alex 2007 0000 Martial Law.mp3

https://www.box.net/shared/static/zgkag7elqg.mp3

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-04-01   7:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Sam Houston (#4) (Edited)

On second thought, the cops and media probably came up with the name.

It's doubtful the MSM is going to publish the names the residents call it, Effin' O'boingoburgh. Gaza, California. Bushville. Little Palistine.

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Esso  posted on  2009-04-01   8:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PSUSA (#1)

Sheesh, you'd thing he'd learn not to do this.

Where's the money in that?

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Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-04-01   8:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: PSUSA, ALL (#0) (Edited)

The pettiness is really getting to be a bit much for me. These homeless people may or may not be homeless of their own making. Much unemployment has been caused by the much larger fraud committed in Jew York and D.C.

While Barney Fag and Chris Dodd haven't felt the pinch caused by the economic tsunami they helped create, hundreds of thousands of our fellow Americans have felt it mostly through unemployment. Sure, there are those unemployed as a result of their own actions or inactions, but there are far more that would work if there was work to be had. THIS INTERVIEW was important because it helps us be aware that real people with real families are being put in positions of homelessness in the RICHEST COUNTRY ON PLANET EARTH.

I'm amazed that people participating here at 4UM would think and speak with such shallow observation, PSUSA. If every homeless person were responsible for a $500,000.00 foreclosure the amount of money required to satisfy completely all of those mortgages (not just bring them current) would be in the BILLIONS, not TRILLIONS as we know have already been appropriated to the tune of over 12 TRILLION.

A reality check is way over due. 32 billion was set aside as LOANS to the Auto Manufacturers, and Obama "fires the CEO of GM ... while TRILLIONS have been set aside in "gift form" to unscrupulous Bankers and Hedge Funds without a single lay-off or a single firing ordered by Obama. No, instead large bonuses were paid out. (Are you paying attention ???)

Now, I'm trying my very best to refrain from anger because I think there are many of us that have been "PROGRAMMED" to think small and focus upon incidental information that doesn't make one iota of difference in the larger scheme of reality.

We've all be led to believe that welfare moms are a big fucking problem ... that's a ridiculous claim compared to CORPORATE WELFARE. We've been told that the "sub-prime" borrowers were a bunch of irresponsible fools that brought down the economy, when it is in fact the absolutely fraudulent practice of derivatives and credit swaps that have torched the fiat monetary system that has been fraught with fraud from day one.

I say it's time to get real and stop pointing towards the splinter in your neighbor's eye when a log is in your own eye.

Trying to focus upon Alex Jones as the villain in all of this is simply bullshit. This type of knit-picking horseshit has plagued the "freedom" movement forever, and I think it's probably govt induced or funded trolling meant to divide people within the ranks of liberty seekers.

Lastly, when I was a kid there was always some pussy that would get down the street and call others names, and then run to his mommy's protection when those being called names decided to stop the name calling. These types grow older and flit around the internet blogs and forums calling names just like they did as punk kids.

I've learned to judge the tree by its fruit. That doesn't mean that Alex Jones is a saint, it doesn't, and he isn't. However, he has a stellar and consistent record of exposing shitbags like the IRS, CPS, DMV, REPs, DEMs, Bankers, Media, Multi-national Corps, and an entire host of other greasy interlopers and usurpers of our rights. I applaud his efforts in these instances and buy his tapes, copy them and circulate them. I verify the things he states and might admit that he can embellish things at times for the sake of impacting the SOUND FUCKING ASLEEP public, I'll leave it to others to judge his tactics.

A simple example of Alex Jones' approach to fighting the problem without focusing upon "Masons" or "Jesuits" or "Jews" is his fight against the NAU and NAFTA HIGHWAY. There can be no question that this issue is being run by the Vatican/Roman Catholic Church. The King of Spain (74% Catholic), in collusion with Rudy Giuliani (Catholic) and Teddy Kennedy (Catholic) promote amnesty, file law suits, shut down opposition law suits tec., while the church hands out maps and provides other assistance to the invaders.

I've seen Jones fight a battle that has slowed this Papal project without ever saying "The Pope did it", "the Jesuits did it", or the "Black Pope did it". Jones is effective, focused and doesn't tire easily, he seldom calls names or speaks poorly of other freedom fighters. Bravo, Mr. Jones.

But day after day, this man is attacked by midgets or complete do nothings ... and even though I feel like bozoing these enemies of ACTION, I think it is necessary to remain calm and try to explain that we've been trained like seals to regurgitate the notions set forth for us by a host of media propagandists so as to prevent awareness of reality.

Does it matter whether Alex Jones shows a profit or even a super profit ? Not to me, this ain't Russia yet and I'm for a profit. Does Alex have too many Birchers and CNP members on his show ... you fuckin betcha and this truly concerns me. Am I concerned when Alex goes off on someone or acts in an unreasonable manner ? Yes, to put it simply. These are negative aspects of his personality as is his obnoxious and ego driven angst.

In the final analysis I can only say that even if Jones is one of "them" what a shame that would be to witness the enemy being the most productive force on OUR SIDE.

I am persuaded by reason and logic, not temper tantrums and two bit name calling contests. Other may be too polite to tell you that you're full of shit and small minded concerns, that you do nothing about other than bitch to people that should be too busy alerting others to listen. Now I'm done listening to your whining and finished responding to it too. "GET REAL" or please get lost !

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-04-01   9:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222 (#8)

Hey, if you want to put me on bozo, have at it.

What Jones needs to stop doing is using buzzwords like "concentration camps" in order to get a reaction out of his camp followers.

Calling this a "concentration camp" is total bullshit, and you know it is. So, you tell me, if you can still read this: Why did he use that term?

Your post above does nothing to explain this, it's just a long and rambling post that you used to try and cover up Jones' shenanigans.

"GET REAL" or please get lost !

And I am not going anywhere, unless Christine gives me the boot. Perhaps you can PM her and complain about this. But if she does, it's not because I lied about anything.

It's not like I didn't tell you that I would continue to expose Jones' crap for what it is. You see? I wasn't kidding.

.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   9:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: PSUSA (#9)

You see? I wasn't kidding.

Yes, I see. You're not kidding, you're a joke.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-04-01   10:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: noone222 (#10)

Been called worse. That isn't even worth keeping track of.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   10:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

Well, it looks like he backed down and came to his senses. For now, anyway.

"Infowars producers Rob Dew and Jason Douglass file a report on the homeless camp situation in California. Alex covers the important issues of the day and takes your calls. "

He took down the "concentration camp" reference.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   17:15:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA, noone222 (#12)

"They are tagging us because we are homeless," she said, staring at her orange wristband. "It feels like a concentration camp."

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange/la-me-tents18mar18,0,1589130.story? page=2

You admitted you have rarely or never listened to Jones show. I don't think you are familiar enough with his work to form an accurate opinion which is so extremely negative. Once again, in this case, it is him simply reporting what's in the news: the person in the actual camp called it a concentration camp. You seem focused on trying to discredit jones supposedly for accuracy reasons or, I believe because of the reaction you got in the past week to your criticism of him. You do have some legit criticism of him, and i always have conceded that. However such as the example of the missouri report, you immediately jumped and assumed 'it's a fraud' and within 2 days the story , which infowars broke, went international, reported by CNN, FOX, etc. I do not quite understand the zeal you seem to have to want to discredit him.

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Artisan  posted on  2009-04-01   17:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All, hounddawg, psusa, noone222, original_intent (#13)

oh and then when a poster engages and responds to criticism of Jones's work they are accused of 'hero worship' by houndawg. The whole topic is just really degraded as i said before. It has nothing to do with 'worship' or 'hero. What journalists or reporters, authors do you like or admire their work? nobody? because, after all, if you have any books on your bookshelf or have ever attended a conference or speech, it must be 'hero worship' right? that hero worship remark was one of the stupidest things i have ever seen posted here. There, now i resorted to 'insults', so let's have a junior high scrap-up, taunting and jagging 'meet you after school at the gas station' for a brawl. (rolls eyes)

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Artisan  posted on  2009-04-01   17:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: PSUSA (#3)

I've been in that area many times

you have?? I didnt know you were from round these parts.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
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Artisan  posted on  2009-04-01   17:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: noone222 (#8)

We've all be led to believe that welfare moms are a big fucking problem ... that's a ridiculous claim compared to CORPORATE WELFARE. We've been told that the "sub-prime" borrowers were a bunch of irresponsible fools that brought down the economy, when it is in fact the absolutely fraudulent practice of derivatives

I say it's time to get real and stop pointing towards the splinter in your neighbor's eye when a log is in your own eye.

Trying to focus upon Alex Jones as the villain in all of this is simply bullshit. This type of knit-picking horseshit has plagued the "freedom" movement forever,

I've learned to judge the tree by its fruit. That doesn't mean that Alex Jones is a saint, it doesn't, and he isn't. However, he has a stellar and consistent record of exposing shitbags like the IRS, CPS, DMV, REPs, DEMs, Bankers, Media, Multi-national Corps, and an entire host of other greasy interlopers and usurpers of our rights. I applaud his efforts in these instances and buy his tapes, copy them and circulate them. I verify the things he states and might admit that he can embellish things at times for the sake of impacting the SOUND FUCKING ASLEEP public, I'll leave it to others to judge his tactics.

In the final analysis I can only say that even if Jones is one of "them" what a shame that would be to witness the enemy being the most productive force on OUR SIDE.

I agree and concur with much of your post. I don't agree with your Catholic angle, i think that is ridiculous and unfounded, but maybe that is a discussion for another time.

However given your point of view and that Jones has many Catholics on his show, I still don't see you protesting about that, so your credo of not attacking the messenger that has accomplished great things holds true. and I agree.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-01   17:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: All, noone222 (#16)

Just in the past few weeks in random conversations I met two woman who were familiar with the new world order because of Alex Jones work. One was a middle aged white woman and the other was a young black woman. Jones gets the mesage about the NWO out to untold millions and millions,. It changes society for the better.

'But oh, he doesn't constantly froth about the zio-jews, so he's an 'evil disinfo agent' /s

you're so right that such attacks are such degraded b.s.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-01   18:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Artisan (#15)

I'm not. I used to go to a truck terminal near Etiwanda and Slover.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   18:01:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Artisan (#13)

Nope. Look at the OP. He used the words "concentration camp", not me. It's changed now.

And to my recollection, I said I have my doubts about that MIAC report due to the graphics being out of place.

I also posted a story saying that it was legit.

So I was wrong about having doubts about it, and I also posted the truth of the matter when it was confirmed as true.

.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   18:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Artisan (#14) (Edited)

oh and then when a poster engages and responds to criticism of Jones's work they are accused of 'hero worship'

No.

This "hero worship" is the result of believing something that is blatantly false that the object of that hero worship says is true. The facts about it are completely disregarded and the person showing the falseness is labeled COINTELPRO or something equally stupid.

You and others like you keep bring this down to a personal level, like I really know AJ and dislike him. I dont know him and I wont waste the energy it takes to hate him. I just expose his lies.

Now whose work do I admire? No one. Because the moment I admire someones work I lose all objectivity and leave the door open for deception.

This is also why I am not afraid of confrontation with people I normally get along with, or used to get along with, here.

.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   18:12:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Artisan (#15)

I posted this in another thread. I meant every word.

. . .

As soon as a person becomes independent, the social worker is out of a job.

But some people that claim independence and want freedom have exchanged one form of dependency for another, and one form of slavery for another.

What I find interesting is how certain well-known people (cough cough) lie on occasion, the same way the MSM lies on occasion. None of them lie all the time, just often enough to provoke a desired reaction.

These certain "patriotic" people criticize and expose the MSM at every opportunity, but they wont criticize and expose the lies in the alternative media. Not only do they not criticize and expose them, THEY COVER UP FOR THEM and EXCUSE THEM as being the "lesser of 2 evils", in the exact same way they criticize the political process.

It's all in who's doing it. And this blows my mind that they don't see this. In fact, this criticism and exposure pisses them off mightily to the point that they totally ignore the truth of the matter and start name calling. .

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   18:24:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: PSUSA. all (#21)

imo, when one's last resort is 'name-calling,' it is time to either bozo the poster, or just ignore the entire thread.

Let's try to explore and examine thoughts, ideas, and ideals here - instead of nitpicking and lambasting fellow members.

/rant

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-04-01   18:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: noone222 (#8)

However, he has a stellar and consistent record of exposing shitbags like the IRS, CPS, DMV, REPs, DEMs, Bankers, Media, Multi-national Corps, and an entire host of other greasy interlopers and usurpers of our rights.

He's got popcorn, potato chips, pretzels, hot dogs, licorice, cotton candy.. get 'em all right here.

Every institution is a racket. So what else is new?

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Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-04-01   19:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: PSUSA (#20)

the person showing the falseness is labeled COINTELPRO or something equally stupid.

You and others like you keep bring this down to a personal level, like I really know AJ and dislike him. I dont know him and I wont waste the energy it takes to hate him. I just expose his lies.

This is also why I am not afraid of confrontation with people I normally get along with, or used to get along with, here.

.

I have not made it personal, i don't view you as an adversary or 'enemy'. I simply don't understand the energy you expend to try and show people AJ is some sort of overall purposeful liar or fraud when nothing has been evidenced of such. The resistance to the idea has made you even more insistant and the bigger picture, liberty, the goal we all share, is lost on distractive nonsense that doesn't matter.

I ain't afraid of contfrontation either which is why i have been responding to your posts on this. That is a test of diplomacy to work out differences and if agreement on a topic can not be reached then we can remain in disagreement on some issues yet still be on friendly terms.

and as i said repeatedly i concede that some of your points were valid but the bigger picture conclusion you seem trying to convey (that jones is a fraud and liar') is not valid.

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Artisan  posted on  2009-04-01   19:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Artisan (#16)

I probably know Alex Jones better than anyone who post here at Freedom4um.Alex and I have had our moments of contention. Alex and I are on speaking terms.Are we good buds and pals? No. But we know who the enemy is and we are battling,maybe not in the same way or same style but it is no longer against each other but against the "enemy". I believe we can all learn from our mistakes, that is the way we learn and get better at what we do and who we are. I am at the age of 55 and I am still learning and growing. I can honestly say that I have'nt done my best yet because I am not perfect. Will I ever be that perfect person? Of course not.But I know this as sure as I am sitting here typing these few words right now, the minute that I stop striving toward a higher standard or ideal. I will have stopped that process and I may as well close up shop and just pack it in because at that point I will have cheated myself and ceased to be of true value to others and not being "real" and I should get "real gone". Thanx......John Stadtmiller

john stadtmiller  posted on  2009-04-02   1:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: PSUSA (#9)

The use of the term concentration camp was a direct quote in article attributed to a woman in the camp.

Learn how to read.


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-02   1:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: john stadtmiller (#25)

John, as I understand it Jack Otto was the person who got you started down the road you're on. What a great message he had.

Although Alex has done a wonderful job waking up people, your show has done a better job both focusing on 'specifics' ie who the "Globalists" and the "Bankers" are and the wide variety of talk show hosts you've recruited.

I especially liked Eric W and Rick A but by no means won't stop there.

Keep up the great work.

"The capacity of the human mind to resist
the intrusion of new knowledge
is infinite.

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-04-02   1:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Artisan (#24) (Edited)

and as i said repeatedly i concede that some of your points were valid but the bigger picture conclusion you seem trying to convey (that jones is a fraud and liar') is not valid.

OK, let me ask you this: When is it lying?

I never said he lies all the time. In fact, in #21 I said, again, that:

What I find interesting is how certain well-known people (cough cough) lie on occasion, the same way the MSM lies on occasion. None of them lie all the time, just often enough to provoke a desired reaction.

Now what was the reaction he was going for when HE used the words "concentration camp"? Look at the OP and see how it was used.

What was the reaction he wanted when HE said "mass graves" in another article? He even had another article on the front page about another "mass grave" but it's not there anymore.

NO ONE lies all the time. Most of Jones' info is valid. What would be the point of lying all the time? No one would believe anything you say. But tell the truth about most things (and those are usually the MSM articles he picks up, ironically) and then come on with a well chosen lie to provoke a reaction, and it stirs people up to believe that lie.

That is the nature of his fraud.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-02   6:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lodwick (#22)

Let's try to explore and examine thoughts, ideas, and ideals here

That's what we're doing.

It's not always a pretty picture, is it?

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-02   6:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: john stadtmiller (#25)

Well said John and thanks for the many years you've given toward waking folks up. I like your style.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-04-02   9:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: PSUSA (#28)

Look at the OP

what does "OP" refer to?

and then come on with a well chosen lie to provoke a reaction, and it stirs people up to believe that lie.

I admit Jones can be sensationalistic and is sometimes wrong. this is why he urges all to look it up for themselves. he has admitted many mistakes in the past. in my estimation he tends to be sensationalistic because when one aquires and digests so much data it greatly effects their entire outlook. you and i refer to cops as PPIGS but most murikans would not 'get that' AT ALL, at all. I tell people, 'well, if you dont refer to them as pigs, ya simply havent done enough research'.

bottom line, correcting jones is fine and good; but trying to discredit him as a reliable source altogether, merely for the offenses you have outlined, would be akin to swatting a gnat with an atomic bomb. major overkill.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
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Artisan  posted on  2009-04-02   12:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Artisan (#31)

what does "OP" refer to?

Original post. At the top.

this is why he urges all to look it up for themselves.

LOL! And when this happens? What is the result? He says this, but he doesn't mean it. Because when one does look it up for themselves, one has a good chance of finding out his article-in-question is bullshit.

Too, how many actually do look this up to verify things? Not too many. I did it. I found out what Jones was doing, and I will continue to expose it, and I don't care what reaction I provoke.

There's no reason to lie about anything. Things are bad enough when the truth is known. The lies Jones tells just makes people look like idiots when they spread those lies.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-02   13:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: PSUSA (#32)

and I will continue to expose it, and I don't care what reaction I provoke.

that's certainly your peroggative, but be careful not to turn into strictly a 'bash alex jones' persona. as you said repeatedly why is he even relevant??

You have done great work on your own accord without having to focus so much , or at all, on someone else. isn't it all about the INFO, anyway?

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
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Artisan  posted on  2009-04-02   13:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: john stadtmiller (#25)

Its good to see you here, John. Keep on keepin' on.

RidinShotgun  posted on  2009-04-02   13:35:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Artisan (#33) (Edited)

Yeah, it's a fine line. Jones is the most infamous though, in that he is so blatant about what he is doing. I finally decided I had enough of his crap. Although I could probably do the same with others in the alternative media I dont have the inclination or enough hours in the day. But if I find other BS by someone else, I won't just ignore it because it wasn't on infowars. I dont have any sacred cows, everyone's fair game, including me if I get caught in a lie.

It is all about the info. But it is also about the reliability of that info. How can anyone make good decisions if the info (Or more accurately: the interpretation of the info) is bogus?

Those people are concentrated in a camp, but it's not a concentration camp. There are cemeteries, they expand, but that doesn't make them mass graves. There are coffin liners being made, but it has nothing to do with FEMA, DHS, or any other .gov organization, it's the way they are made. All these stories were on infowars, and they are all bogus. They are also all hot-button issues guaranteed to get a reaction.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-02   14:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: john stadtmiller (#25)

Cool. So you're not just a turtle basher.

;-)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-03   21:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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