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Title: Flashback: CDC to mix avian, human flu viruses in pandemic study
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Center for Infectious Disease Research & Policy
URL Source: http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/co ... anflu/news/jan1404hybrids.html
Published: Apr 28, 2009
Author: Robert Roos
Post Date: 2009-04-28 09:57:19 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: CDC mixed viruses
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INFLUENZA >> PANDEMIC INFLUENZA >> NEWS >> CDC to mix avian, human flu viruses in pandemic study Robert Roos * News Editor Jan 14, 2004 (CIDRAP News) – One of the worst fears of infectious disease experts is that the H5N1 avian influenza virus now circulating in parts of Asia will combine with a human-adapted flu virus to create a deadly new flu virus that could spread around the world. That could happen, scientists predict, if someone who is already infected with an ordinary flu virus contracts the avian virus at the same time. The avian virus has already caused at least 48 confirmed human illness cases in Asia, of which 35 have been fatal. The virus has shown little ability to spread from person to person, but the fear is that a hybrid could combine the killing power of the avian virus with the transmissibility of human flu viruses. Now, rather than waiting to see if nature spawns such a hybrid, US scientists are planning to try to breed one themselves—in the name of preparedness. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will soon launch experiments designed to combine the H5N1 virus and human flu viruses and then see how the resulting hybrids affect animals. The goal is to assess the chances that such a "reassortant" virus will emerge and how dangerous it might be. CDC officials confirmed the plans for the research as described recently in media reports, particularly in a Canadian Press (CP) story. Two ways to make hybrids The plans call for trying two methods to create hybrid viruses, CDC spokesman David Daigle told CIDRAP News via e-mail. One is to infect cells in a laboratory tissue culture with H5N1 and human flu viruses at the same time and then watch to see if they mix. For the human virus, investigators will use A (H3N2), the strain that has caused most human flu cases in recent years, according to the CP report. The other method is reverse genetics—assembling a new virus with sets of genes from the H5N1 and H3N2 viruses. Reverse genetics has already been used to create H5N1 candidate vaccines in several laboratories, according to Daigle. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) said recently it would soon launch a clinical trial of one of those vaccines. Of the two methods, the co-infection approach was described as slower and more laborious, though closer to what happens in nature. Any viable viruses that emerge from these processes will be seeded into animals that are considered good models for testing how flu viruses behave in humans, according to Daigle. The aim will be to observe whether the animals get sick and whether infected animals can infect others. The World Health Organization (WHO) has been "pleading" for laboratories to do this research, because it could provide some evidence to back up the agency's warnings about the risk of a flu pandemic, according to the CP report. Klaus Stohr, head of the WHO's global influenza program, was quoted as saying that if none of the hybrids caused disease, the agency might be inclined to dial down its level of concern. But if the experiments produce highly transmissible and pathogenic viruses, the agency will be more worried, he said. Safety precautions Because of the obvious risks in creating viruses with the potential to spark a pandemic, the work will be done in a biosafety level 3 (BSL-3) laboratory at the CDC in Atlanta, Daigle told CIDRAP News. "We recognize that there is concern by some over this type of work. This concern may be heightened by reports of recent lab exposures in other lab facilities," he said. "But CDC has an incredible record in lab safety and is taking very strict precautions." Daigle said the US Department of Agriculture requires that highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) viruses be treated as "Select Agents" and that research on them must be done in BSL-3 labs with "enhancements." These include "special provisions to protect both laboratory workers and the environment." BSL-3 is the second highest level of laboratory biosecurity. It is used for work with pathogens that may cause serious or potentially lethal disease if inhaled, such as tuberculosis or St. Louis encephalitis, according to the CDC. CDC experiments with HPAI viruses have to pass reviews by the agency's Institutional Biosafety Committee and Animal Care and Use Committee, Daigle said. The facilities involved are inspected by the USDA and the CDC's Office of Safety and Health, and staff members who work with Select Agents require special clearance. It's been done before The upcoming experiments will not break entirely new ground for the CDC, the CP story revealed. The agency already has made hybrid viruses with H5N1 samples isolated from patients in Hong Kong in 1997, when the virus first caused human disease. The results of that research have not yet been published, and the CDC has said little about them. In the CP report, Dr. Nancy Cox, head of the CDC's influenza branch, commented only, "Some gene combinations could be produced and others could not." Daigle added little to that. He said, "The reassortment work with the 1997 isolate was intermittently interrupted with SARS [severe acute respiratory syndrome] and then the 2004 H5N1 outbreak. We are currently concentrating our efforts on understanding the pathogenicity of the 2004 strains (non-reassortants) in mammalian models." He said the CDC hopes to prepare a report on that research "in the near future." See also: CDC information on biosafety levels www.cdc.gov/od/ohs/symp5/jyrtext.htm Center for Infectious Disease Research & Policy Academic Health Center -- University of Minnesota Copyright © 2009 Regents of the University of Minnesota
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"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will soon launch experiments designed to combine the H5N1 virus and human flu viruses and then see how the resulting hybrids affect animals. The goal is to assess the chances that such a "reassortant" virus will emerge and how dangerous it might be"
"Two ways to make hybrids The plans call for trying two methods to create hybrid viruses, CDC spokesman David Daigle told CIDRAP News via e-mail. One is to infect cells in a laboratory tissue culture with H5N1 and human flu viruses at the same time and then watch to see if they mix. For the human virus, investigators will use A (H3N2), the strain that has caused most human flu cases in recent years, according to the CP report. The other method is reverse genetics—assembling a new virus with sets of genes from the H5N1 and H3N2 viruses."
"Any viable viruses that emerge from these processes will be seeded into animals that are considered good models for testing how flu viruses behave in humans, according to Daigle. The aim will be to observe whether the animals get sick and whether infected animals can infect others."
"Because of the obvious risks in creating viruses with the potential to spark a pandemic, the work will be done in a biosafety level 3 (BSL-3) laboratory at the CDC in Atlanta, Daigle told CIDRAP News."
Well, I guess we know how well that went.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
Well, I guess we know how well that went. The Mexican Swine Flu was man-made in a .gov laboratory.
Don't take the vaccine!
Repeat: DO NOT TAKE THE "VACCINE" !!
Repeat: DO NOT TAKE THE "VACCINE" !! bttt
Then I'm a felon.
I would rather be a live felon than a dead sheeple.
No one's going to help you if you don't help yourself. The naive tools and bleaters will be dropping first and fast.
No one's going to help you if you don't help yourself. The naive tools and bleaters will be dropping first and fast. Everybody will soon be on their own.
In fact, you and I *are* on our own this moment.
I don't think anyone knows that for sure. If it was man made I think there would be a vaccine ready for it. This could be natural, so there is no sense in causing more people to hate Americans than they already do by stating as fact pure speculation.
God is always good!
Do you know who Baxter is ?
Do you know who Baxter is ? www.infowars.com/baxter-p...ined-live-bird-flu-virus/ Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus Helen Branswell The Canadian Press March 5, 2009 The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses. featured stories Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses. And an official of the World Health Organization’s European operation said the body is closely monitoring the investigation into the events that took place at Baxter International’s research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria. “At this juncture we are confident in saying that public health and occupational risk is minimal at present,” medical officer Roberta Andraghetti said from Copenhagen, Denmark. “But what remains unanswered are the circumstances surrounding the incident in the Baxter facility in Orth-Donau.” The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany. The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses. Public health authorities concerned about what has been described as a “serious error” on Baxter’s part have assumed the death of the ferrets meant the H5N1 virus in the product was live. But the company, Baxter International Inc., has been parsimonious about the amount of information it has released about the event. On Friday, the company’s director of global bioscience communications confirmed what scientists have suspected. “It was live,” Christopher Bona said in an email. The contaminated product, which Baxter calls “experimental virus material,” was made at the Orth-Donau research facility. Baxter makes its flu vaccine — including a human H5N1 vaccine for which a licence is expected shortly — at a facility in the Czech Republic. People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted. Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could have resulted in dire consequences. While H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people. That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created. There is no suggestion that happened because of this accident, however. “We have no evidence of any reassortment, that any reassortment may have occurred,” said Andraghetti. “And we have no evidence of any increased transmissibility of the viruses that were involved in the experiment with the ferrets in the Czech Republic.” Baxter hasn’t shed much light — at least not publicly — on how the accident happened. Earlier this week Bona called the mistake the result of a combination of “just the process itself, (and) technical and human error in this procedure.” He said he couldn’t reveal more information because it would give away proprietary information about Baxter’s production process. Andraghetti said Friday the four investigating governments are co-operating closely with the WHO and the European Centre for Disease Control in Stockholm, Sweden. “We are in very close contact with Austrian authorities to understand what the circumstances of the incident in their laboratory were,” she said. “And the reason for us wishing to know what has happened is to prevent similar events in the future and to share lessons that can be learned from this event with others to prevent similar events. … This is very important.”
Do you know who Baxter is ?
Too bad it doesn't ONLY affect ferrets...hehehe ;-)
ricky's shooting off again without any knowledge of the subject matter.
Too bad it doesn't ONLY affect ferrets...hehehe ;-) It also affects sheeple.
Some folks say AIDS was too (in Ft. Detrick, Maryland iirc).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Some folks say AIDS was too (in Ft. Detrick, Maryland iirc). A combination of pig, bird and human viruses does not happen by accident.
thanks to Rummy?
Yeah, pigs and birds usually don't hang out together. Makes evil men the most likely suspect(s).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Unfortunately, your statement is true 99.9% of the time.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
Yeah, it is unfortunate. But as John Adams said, "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Ye of little faith !
Oh, I have faith. But not in the government (unless we are talking about having faith in them to screw things up and destroy the country).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. "Our boy Barry is here to save us"
"And we want your guns, food storage and gold, too."
There. Fixed.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Yeah, things can get worse if they take those shots.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. www.drudgereport.com/ At least 7 hospitalized in USA... Case in Orlando... Confirmed: Indiana... Pandemic Risk Grows... Cases in NYC rise to 45... CDC: 'Fully expect we will see deaths'... Officials in Mexico City order all eateries closed... Fears have 'potential to paralyze' industry... Cruise lines cancel Mexico stops...
I sure hope not.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Ye of little faith !
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#5. To: TwentyTwelve (#4)
"Because of the obvious risks in creating viruses with the potential to spark a pandemic, the work will be done in a biosafety level 3 (BSL-3) laboratory at the CDC in Atlanta, Daigle told CIDRAP News."
#6. To: phantom patriot, christine, Litus, Original_Intent, Rotara (#5)
"Because of the obvious risks in creating viruses with the potential to spark a pandemic, the work will be done in a biosafety level 3 (BSL-3) laboratory at the CDC in Atlanta, Daigle told CIDRAP News."
#7. To: TwentyTwelve, ALL (#6)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#8. To: Rotara (#7)
McLamb
#9. To: TwentyTwelve, ALL (#8)
Don't take the vaccine!
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#10. To: Rotara (#9)
Don't take the vaccine!
#11. To: TwentyTwelve (#10)
"It's a felony to not take the 'vaccine' shot."
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#12. To: Rotara (#11)
#13. To: TwentyTwelve (#12)
I would rather be a live felon than a dead sheeple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#14. To: Rotara (#13)
I would rather be a live felon than a dead sheeple.
#15. To: TwentyTwelve (#14)
Everybody will soon be on their own.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#16. To: TwentyTwelve (#6)
(Edited)
The Mexican Swine Flu was man-made in a .gov laboratory.
#17. To: RickyJ (#16)
I don't think anyone knows that for sure. If it was man made I think there would be a vaccine ready for it.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#18. To: Rotara, RickyJ (#17)
I don't think anyone knows that for sure. If it was man made I think there would be a vaccine ready for it.
#19. To: Rotara, RickyJ (#17)
I don't think anyone knows that for sure. If it was man made I think there would be a vaccine ready for it.
#20. To: TwentyTwelve (#18)
Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#21. To: TwentyTwelve, Ricky J (#19)
Do you know who Baxter is ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#22. To: Rotara (#20)
Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses.
#23. To: TwentyTwelve (#22)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#24. To: TwentyTwelve (#6)
The Mexican Swine Flu was man-made in a .gov laboratory.
Lord Acton
#25. To: James Deffenbach (#24)
The Mexican Swine Flu was man-made in a .gov laboratory.
#26. To: TwentyTwelve (#6)
The Mexican Swine Flu was man-made in a .gov laboratory.
#27. To: TwentyTwelve (#25)
A combination of pig, bird and human viruses does not happen by accident.
Lord Acton
#28. To: James Deffenbach (#27)
Makes evil men the most likely suspect(s).
#29. To: phantom patriot (#28)
Lord Acton
#30. To: TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach (#25)
A combination of pig, bird and human viruses does not happen by accident.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#31. To: Rotara (#30)
Ye of little faith !
Lord Acton
#32. To: James Deffenbach (#31)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#33. To: Rotara, James Deffenbach (#32)
"Our boy Barry is here to save us"
#34. To: TwentyTwelve (#33)
LOL
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#35. To: Rotara (#32)
"Our boy Barry from Kenya is here to save us"
Lord Acton
#36. To: TwentyTwelve (#33)
Lord Acton
#37. To: James Deffenbach, Rotara, Original_Intent, wudidiz, Christine, Litus (#35)
#38. To: TwentyTwelve (#37)
Can the larazabirdpigsheeple flu cross over to Americans ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#39. To: Rotara (#38)
Can the larazabirdpigsheeple flu cross over to Americans ?
Lord Acton
#40. To: Rotara, James Deffenbach (#30)
A combination of pig, bird and human viruses does not happen by accident.
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