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CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about? [Full Thread]
Post Date: 2007-06-11 10:50:23 by richard9151
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CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about? Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. Consumers don't want expensive produce. Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs. But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor." Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return (And he will as he learns the rules), he gets an "earned income credit" of up to ...

Tomatoes and Cheap Labor
Post Date: 2007-06-11 10:38:54 by richard9151
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This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet Tomatoes and Cheap Labor CHEAP TOMATOES? This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent From a California school teacher - - - "As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of: I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels. Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens, Huntington Park, etc., where these students are ...

President Calls On Senate To Resume Immigration Talks
Post Date: 2007-06-10 08:48:31 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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President Calls On Senate To Resume Immigration Talks June 9, 2007 1:49 p.m. EST Christopher Rizo - AHN Staff Writer Washington, DC (AHN)-President Bush, from his meeting in Germany with world leaders, called on the U.S. Senate on Saturday to resume work toward a comprehensive immigration overhaul. Work stalled this week amid disagreements that the bipartisan proposal doesn't do enough to protect the nation's borders. In his weekly radio address, President Bush said the bill would not grant amnesty to illegal immigrants, that undocumented workers would have to pay fines and take other steps to get on a path to legal status. "Securing the border and upholding family values ...

Another border agent due to start prison term(Judge, prosecutor the same as in Ramos-Compean case)
Post Date: 2007-06-09 23:16:32 by freepatriot32
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Another former U.S. Border Patrol agent is due to start a prison term on Monday – this man sentenced for a typographical error that he reported to authorities himself so that the situation could be corrected, according to a new report from Friends of the Border Patrol. And the case bears similarities to the recent case involving two other Border Patrol agents – Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos – sentenced to prison for shooting at a drug smuggler as he fled back into Mexico, leaving behind hundreds of pounds of drugs he'd brought into the U.S., said Andy Ramirez, chairman of the FOBP. For example, the prosecutor who handled both cases against Ramos and Compean and Noe ...

The Lost Angeles Tinderbox Primed for Large Riots
Post Date: 2007-06-09 19:44:31 by Horse
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Small fires quickly become big fires. Every child in America is taught this and every public official and American citizen knows this. Every firefighter and police officer knows this, as did the LAPD riot teams in MacArthur Park on May 1. Now that the dust is starting to settle from the mayhem in MacArthur Park on May Day 2007, an understanding of basic and mob psychology tells us that Lost Angeles is again primed for major riots and destruction on a large scale. While we hope these riots never manifest, the recent actions of Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and LAPD Chief William Bratton have primed the city for major upheavals. Their actions have provided LAPD officers an incentive not to do ...

Immigration Bill Fails Crucial Test Vote; stunning setback that could spell its defeat for the year...
Post Date: 2007-06-07 21:08:24 by Brian S
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(06-07) 18:05 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- A broad immigration bill to legalize millions of people in the U.S. unlawfully failed a crucial test vote Thursday, a stunning setback that could spell its defeat for the year. The vote was 45-50 against limiting debate on the bill, 15 short of the 60 that the bill's supporters needed to prevail. Most Republicans voted to block Democrats' efforts to bring the bill to a final vote. The legislation, which had been endorsed by President Bush, would tighten borders, institute a new system to prevent employers from hiring undocumented workers in addition to giving up to 12 million illegal immigrants a pathway to legal status. Conceived by an ...

STATEMENT BY SEN. BERNIE SANDERS ON ANTI-LAYOFF AMENDMENT
Post Date: 2007-06-07 18:55:29 by mirage
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Mr. President, I want to speak about an amendment that I will be offering with Senator Grassley to the Immigration Reform Bill, Amendment 1332. This amendment has been endorsed by the AFL-CIO, the Programmers Guild and the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. But, before I speak about the amendment, I want to focus on what is happening in our economy today. Mr. President, the fact of the matter is that there is a war going on in America today. And, I’m not talking about the War in Iraq or the War in Afghanistan. I’m talking about a war against the American middle class, the American standard of living, and indeed the American dream itself. The American public ...

Immigration Compromise Fails Test Vote Amid GOP Opposition, But Gets Another Chance
Post Date: 2007-06-07 13:12:41 by Brian S
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A fragile bipartisan compromise that would legalize millions of unlawful immigrants suffered a setback Thursday when it failed a test vote, leaving its prospects uncertain. Still, the measure - a top priority for President Bush that's under attack from the right and left - got a reprieve when Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he would give it more time before yanking the bill and moving on to other matters. "We need to complete this marathon," Reid said. His decision set the stage for yet another procedural vote later Thursday that will measure lawmakers' appetite for a so-called "grand bargain" between liberals and conservatives on immigration. By a ...

Immigration-- Bush's domestic Iraq
Post Date: 2007-06-07 12:32:34 by Zoroaster
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Immigration -- Bush's domestic Iraq The rigid thinking leading us to failure in the Mideast spawned 'comprehensive immigration reform.' By Mickey Kaus, MICKEY KAUS writes the kausfiles blog on Slate, from which this is adapted. June 4, 2007 MAINSTREAM editorialists like to praise President Bush's immigration initiative as an expression of his pragmatic, bipartisan, "compassionate conservative" side, in presumed contrast to the inflexible, ideological approach that produced the invasion of Iraq. But far from being a sensible centrist departure from the sort of grandiose, rigid thinking that led Bush into Iraq, "comprehensive immigration reform" is of a ...

Immigration bill falling apart
Post Date: 2007-06-07 11:17:57 by Mekons4
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Sorry, no link yet, but the Senate is debating at the moment after an amendment was added last night at midnight, on a 49-48 vote, to limit a guest worker provision to five years, after which it will have to be renewed. Republicans have gone ballistic, because big business considers this the main point of the bill. They have said that if the amendment remains, they will vote against the bill. If they do, Reid has said he will pull it from the floor, effectively killing it. Much arm-twisting going on right now, but it looks like it's dead unless Bush and the Republicans blink.

Illegal immigrant controversy in New Haven
Post Date: 2007-06-06 22:48:54 by rack42
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The idea of passing out municipal ID cards to illegals has some people making the charge that New Haven is becoming a safe haven for illegal immigrants. The cards would allow undocumented residents to receive basic services at banks and libraries. City Hall has been inundated with e-mails from people against the cards. Ted Pechinski who is with the group Citizens for Immigration Reform said, "Tell me how it's going to benefit the legal citizens of this country, of this city." The group has posted flyers all over the city and Mayor DeStefano says their literature is a form of intimidation. "This is hate-based literature. It's done to inspire fear and to make people ...

knowing illegal immigration.....
Post Date: 2007-06-06 18:30:19 by richard9151
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LET'S TALK A guy was seated next to a 10-year-old girl on an airplane. Being bored, he turned to the girl and said, "Let's talk. I''ve heard that flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger." The girl, who was reading a book, closed it slowly and said to the guy, "What would you like to talk about?" Oh, I don't know," said the guy. "How about illegal immigration?" "OK," she said. "That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow and a deer all eat the same stuff... grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and ...

CORPORATISM FUNDING THE DEATH OF OUR REPUBLIC
Post Date: 2007-06-06 17:41:29 by Kamala
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CORPORATISM FUNDING THE DEATH OF OUR REPUBLIC By: Devvy June 4, 2007 © 2007 - http://NewsWithViews.com “I am concerned for the security of our great nation, not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within.” — General Douglas MacArthur. The American people find themselves in a quandary over the issue of corporatism, the support of free enterprise and refusing to fund their own destruction by supporting these multi national corporations who have and are selling out America. I have always been a staunch supporter of a free enterprise system in which Americans can choose who they decide to do business with or ...

Immigration Deal Under Threat in Senate
Post Date: 2007-06-05 12:44:53 by Brian S
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(06-05) 09:31 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- A broad bipartisan immigration deal was threatened Tuesday as the Senate prepared to vote on a Republican proposal to make it harder for millions of illegal immigrants to qualify for green cards. The proposal by Sen. Wayne Allard, R-Colo., would eliminate extra points that illegal immigrants could get toward lawful status for work done while they were in the U.S. illegally, owning a home, or having health insurance. The proposed merit-based system would award the most credit for employment criteria such as education and skill level. The Senate also planned to consider a bipartisan bid to require employers to recruit U.S. workers before giving a ...

The Immigration Bill: Another Failure of Government
Post Date: 2007-06-04 10:47:36 by Ada
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The immigration bill does not address the problem. Like most bills, it is the product of influential moneyed interests. It serves these interests at the expense of the American people. I have nothing against immigration in principle and nothing against Mexicans. Illegals, or what are known in the construction trades as “first generation Mexicans,” are hard workers. They show up for work sober. They will work from dawn to dark and on holidays. They don’t take a job in order to restore their eligibility for unemployment compensation, or in order to claim or arrange an injury that pays worker’s compensation and drives up the worker’s comp tax on the employer until he ...

Backers of Immigration Bill More Optimistic
Post Date: 2007-06-04 08:57:59 by TommyTheMadArtist
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After a week at home with their constituents, the Senate architects of a delicate immigration compromise are increasingly convinced that they will hold together this week to pass an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws, with momentum building behind one unifying theme: Today's immigration system is too broken to go unaddressed. Congress's week-long Memorial Day recess was expected to leave the bill in tatters. But with a week of action set to begin today, the legislation's champions say they believe that the voices of opposition, especially from conservatives, represent a small segment of public opinion. Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), who led negotiations on the bill for his ...

Laura Ingram: Does Bush think he's going to be saved by the liberal elites?
Post Date: 2007-06-03 21:51:53 by Zipporah
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n a Friday morning CNN segment on border security, conservative talk show host Laura Ingraham was interviewed about the implications of the recent TB scare, where an infected man was waved through by a border inspector despite a computer warning, for President Bush's immigration bill. Ingraham agreed that the border incident highlighted problems with the bill and was then asked to commented on Bush's statement this past Tuesday: "If you want to kill the bill, if you don't want to do what's right for America, you can pick one little aspect out of it, you can use it to frighten people." Ingraham said she didn't think that border security was "one little ...

Racial Profiling
Post Date: 2007-06-02 17:01:23 by richard9151
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Racial Profiling of African, Hispanic (Latino), and Asian Americans What is racial profiling? The most common example of police racial profiling is "DWB", otherwise known as "driving while black". This refers to the practice of police targeting African Americans for traffic stops because they believe that African Americans are more likely to be engaged in criminal activity. While racial profiling is illegal, a 1996 Supreme Court decision allows police to stop motorists and search their vehicles if they believe trafficking illegal drugs or weapons. More traffic stops leads to more arrests, which further skews the racial profiling statistics against African Americans. ...

Passage of NAFTA in Mèxico
Post Date: 2007-06-02 16:34:43 by richard9151
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PRESIDENT SALINAS TAKES AGGRESSIVE STANCE IN DEFENSE OF NAFTA AMID UNCERTAIN PROSPECTS FOR RATIFICATION IN U.S. CONGRESS From: SourceMex Economic News & Analysis on Mexico Date: October 13, 1993 Jethro Tull posted the above in response to one of my posts about NAFTA and it's tremendous impact on Mèxico. And he was correct, in that President Carlos Salinas de Gotari was nearly singlehandedly responsible for the passage of NAFTA in Mèxico, and helped it pass in the US as well. Of course, this is hardly all of the story! Carlos Salinas de Gotari - an unwelcome visitor to these shores Carlos Salinas de Gotari ws President of Mexico from 1988 to 1994. Shortly after ...

"Don't ask, don't tell" extended to illegal aliens
Post Date: 2007-06-02 15:16:56 by richard9151
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In a bizarre, yet somehow completely logical, recapitulation of President Clinton's "Don't ask, don't tell" policy on homosexuals in the military, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has issued his own "Don’t ask, don't tell" order with regard to illegal aliens seeking City services. Just as the left attacked Clinton's very liberal compromise policy as too harsh, the New York City Council is attacking Bloomberg's policy for the same reason. The story begins in 1989 when then-Mayor Edward Koch issued an executive order telling City agencies not to inform the INS about any person's citizenship status. Koch's principal argument for ...

Comment on Profiling--Posner
Post Date: 2007-06-02 15:03:35 by richard9151
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Please go to the site to read the remainder of the paper, if you wish. In the case of ordinary crimes, where for example profiling might take the form of disproportionately frequent searches of vehicles driven by Hispanics because Hispanics are disproportionately represented in illegal drug trafficking, I would expect profiling to have little effect on the crime rate. The reason is the positive elasticity of supply of persons who commit victimless crimes, which is to say crimes resulting from the outlawing of products or services for which there is a demand. If one class of suppliers is driven out of business, this makes room for others. Given the fixed budget for law enforcement assumed ...

Sex Crimes and Illegal Immigrants: Misuse of Statistics for Politics
Post Date: 2007-06-02 14:49:58 by richard9151
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Yet another reader sent me a great bad math link. (Keep 'em coming guys!) This one is an astonishingly nasty slight of hand, and a great example of how people misuse statistics to support a political agenda. It's by someone named "Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin", and it's an attempt to paint illegal immigrants as a bunch of filthy criminal lowlifes. It's titled "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants in the United States." With a title like that, you'd think that she has actual data showing that nearly one million sex crimes were committed by illegal immigrants, wouldn't you? Well, ...

Too Bad President Bush has torn the conservative coalition asunder.
Post Date: 2007-06-02 06:30:13 by Zipporah
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Too BadPresident Bush has torn the conservative coalition asunder. Friday, June 1, 2007 12:00 a.m. EDT What political conservatives and on-the-ground Republicans must understand at this point is that they are not breaking with the White House on immigration. They are not resisting, fighting and thereby setting down a historical marker--"At this point the break became final." That's not what's happening. What conservatives and Republicans must recognize is that the White House has broken with them. What President Bush is doing, and has been doing for some time, is sundering a great political coalition. This is sad, and it holds implications not only for one political party ...

Bush pressing hard on immigration bill
Post Date: 2007-06-02 06:03:30 by Zipporah
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Bush pressing hard on immigration bill By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, Associated Press WriterFri Jun 1, 10:32 PM ET President Bush challenged lawmakers on Friday to pass an immigration bill that would legalize millions of unlawful immigrants despite the harsh criticism they're hearing from voters and interest groups on both sides of the issue. It was Bush's second personal plea in a week for support on the initiative — one of his top domestic priorities — part of a multi-front effort by his administration to bolster lawmakers in both parties as the Senate resumes a searing debate on immigration. "No matter how difficult it may seem for some politically, I strongly ...

Hazelton - PA >> ANTI-IMMIGRATION RALLY on Sunday, June 3 >> BE THERE!
Post Date: 2007-06-02 05:34:57 by Liberate Jim Traficant
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From Poker Face's site:NEW ATZLAN - Yanqui go home Dear Family, Friends & Poker Face Fans With Illegal Immigration and calls for AMNESTY (read citizenship for these criminals) all over the news last week, the sell out of America by our prostiticians, is almost complete. Please come and join us by the thousands in Hazleton, PA Sunday June 3rd @ 2PM as we send a strong message to Washington, that we are NOT going to accept the legalization of 30-40 million wage slaving line jumpers, who dont follow the law, and shouldnt get rewarded with US citizenship. The rally is being held in front of Hazletons City Hall. Mayor Barletta has been at the forefront of trying to stem the flood of ...

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