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The First Fifteen Minutes of September 11th - Former Air Traffic Controller Robin Hordon speaks out. [Full Thread]
Post Date: 2007-08-18 05:45:39 by Kamala
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The First Fifteen Minutes of September 11th - Former Air Traffic Controller Robin Hordon speaks out. The First Fifteen Minutes of September 11th Former Air Traffic Controller Robin Hordon speaks out on 9/11, NORAD and what should have happened on 9/11. By Jeremy Baker Former Air Traffic Controller Robin Hordon Within three hours of the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, Robin Hordon knew it was an inside job. He had been an Air Traffic Controller (ATC) for eleven years before Reagan fired him and hundreds of his colleagues after they went on strike in the eighties. Having handled in-flight emergencies and two actual hijackings in his career, he is well qualified to comment ...

Sibel Edmonds, NSA Spying, State Secrets and Kafk
Post Date: 2007-08-17 18:46:27 by Zipporah
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Sibel Edmonds, NSA Spying, State Secrets and Kafkaby lukery Fri Aug 17, 2007 at 05:49:20 AM PDTThere's been a lot of outrage these last couple of days about the absurd court hearings in the NSA spying cases where the US government basically said to the court 'Yeah, we could tell you, but we'd have to kill you.' None of this comes as a surprise to me because I've been following the case of former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds for a number of years. As I've been saying, Sibel has been the canary in this coal mine since 2002. In many ways, Sibel's situation regarding State Secrets is much worse than what we've seen this week. For starters, her passport, ...

The rational thinker versus the paranoid [Full Thread]
Post Date: 2007-08-17 11:09:58 by Mister Clean
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The rational thinker versus the paranoidPresented with the same evidence for a mystery, the rational thinker and the paranoid respond very differently. The rational thinkerThe paranoid1. Checks the evidence carefully and doesn’t rely on uncertain evidence 1. Grabs onto a few pieces of evidence and defends them inflexibly. 2. Doesn’t care which evidence he must let go. 2. Seemingly irrationally seizes onto something and won’t let go. 3. Seeks a realistic answer in simple and familiar processes. 3. Invokes complex, unrealistic scenarios controlled by powerful forces behind the scenes. 4. Accepts only what he can critically assess (falsifiable ideas). 4. Deals in explanations ...

Did DoD lawyers blow the chance to nab Atta?
Post Date: 2007-08-16 19:46:56 by honway
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Did DoD lawyers blow the chance to nab Atta? By Jacob Goodwin In September 2000, one year before the Al Qaeda attacks of 9/11, a U.S. Army military intelligence program, known as “Able Danger,” identified a terrorist cell based in Brooklyn, NY, one of whose members was 9/11 ringleader Mohammed Atta, and recommended to their military superiors that the FBI be called in to “take out that cell,” according to Rep. Curt Weldon, a longtime Republican congressman from Pennsylvania who is currently vice chairman of both the House Homeland Security and House Armed Services Committees. The recommendation to bring down that New York City cell -- in which two other Al Qaeda ...

The Cult of 9/11
Post Date: 2007-08-16 05:55:41 by Ada
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When Stu Bykofsky, a columnist for The Philadelphia Daily News, wrote a column last week in which he openly hoped that America suffers "another 9/11," he merely had the poor judgment to say what many a right-wing politician and pundit is thinking. Evidence for this is everywhere: in the fact that Bykofsky was invited to appear on the GOP's unofficial network, Fox News, to "explain" his comments; in the keen disappointment that ripples throughout the right-wing blogosphere every time the collapse of a bridge or a steam pipe explosion turns out not to have been the work of Scary Brown People Who Hate Our Freedoms; and in predictions such as that made by former Sen. ...

Hastert's resignation statement leaked! (Sibel Edmonds, China cited)
Post Date: 2007-08-15 18:43:17 by Zipporah
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Hastert's resignation statement leaked! (Sibel Edmonds, China cited)by lukery Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 05:45:25 AM PDTI've received an early copy of the resignation statement that Former Speaker Dennis Hastert will be giving at his press conference on Friday. In the statement, he refers to recent scandals in China, a desire to spend more time with his family, a reference to Sibel Edmonds, and a curious reference to the 'genius of the American system.' lukery's diary :: :: Hastert's statement: Today I am announcing my retirement from Congress, effective immediately. When Karl Rove resigned earlier this week, he indicated that he wanted to spend more time with his ...

Rove: “Liberals saw the savagery on 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.”
Post Date: 2007-08-13 20:12:24 by Zipporah
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Watch (Digging in the C&L archives.) This speech is one reason why our country is so divided. He created an uproar after he said that liberals wanted to give terrorists therapy. These unfounded partisan attacks are the cornerstone of his leadership skills and were neatly copied by the rubber stamp Conservatives in Congress and on their sycophantic blogs. It’s an old Republican tactic, but Rove used it like no other… Rove: Conservatives saw the savag…savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for war. Liberals saw the savageerry on 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers. —— Schumer: When I heard ...

Sibel Edmonds' case and the heroin connection
Post Date: 2007-08-13 18:04:21 by Zipporah
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Sibel Edmonds' case and the heroin connection by lukery [Subscribe] Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 02:40:55 PM PDTEveryone is talking about "How a ‘Good War’ in Afghanistan Went Bad" in yesterday's NYT - but what stands out for me is that in a 7-page article on Afghanistan, there's not one mention of heroin, opium, or even poppies. As a companion piece to the NYT article about losing the 'good war,' I strongly suggest that you read this recent article by former UK Ambassador to Uzebekistan, Craig Murray from late last month. Murray explains that Afghanistan is run by drug lords. Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds often points to the fact that whenever the ...

Hoping for Horror…Stu Bykofsky ( To save America, we need another 9/11)
Post Date: 2007-08-12 22:48:48 by Zipporah
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Hoping for Horror…Stu BykofskyBy: John Amato @ 7:05 PM - PDT It looks like Stu’s column has gotten the reaction that I thought it would on FOX. Instead of denouncing a piece that wishes for the blood of Americans to spill so that we can get back to the good old times of being united immediately post 9/11 and wake people up to the threat they never want us to forget. John Gibson foolishly says that “I think it’s going to take a lot of dead people to wake America up.” I’m sorry, I think everybody did wake up on 9/11. But when we go after a country that wasn’t the threat, it’s hard to take the fear-mongering seriously. The problem is that Stu tries ...

The Yoda of 9/11 - Pat Curley slices through the loony conspiracy theories at his influential "Screw Loose Change" Web site (Hit Piece)
Post Date: 2007-08-11 20:05:16 by Red Jones
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The Yoda of 9/11 Pat Curley slices through the loony conspiracy theories at his influential "Screw Loose Change" Web site By Stephen Lemons Published: August 9, 2007 It's late afternoon at a conference of 9/11 conspiracy theorists in Chandler, and Pat Curley's been batting away the intellectual softballs for a half-hour or so from a lady named Lynn Pentz, in town from La-La Land for the wingding that went down in February at the Crowne Plaza San Marcos. Curley, a tall, unkempt roly-poly dude in dark prescription lenses better suited for a South American dictator, flicks away Pentz's putative proof that the official account of what went down on September 11, 2001, ...

9/11 Review, Quiz Tomorrow on 8/11/07
Post Date: 2007-08-10 18:22:50 by robin
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Click on link, we've all seen this, but it's been updated a bit. Click for Full Text! Congressman Ron Paul, MD – 9-term Congressman from Texas, 1979 - 1985, 1997 - present. Member of the House Financial Services Committee, the International Relations committee, and the Joint Economic Committee. On the Financial Services Committee, he serves as the Vice Chairman of the Oversight and Investigations subcommittee. 1988 Libertarian Party candidate for President. Physician. Former Flight Surgeon, U.S. Air Force. Audio interview The Alex Jones Show 1/18/07: "Dr. Ron Paul, Texas Congressman exploring a run for President, appeared on The Alex Jones Show Wednesday and had the ...

Airlines sue FBI, CIA over Sept. 11
Post Date: 2007-08-09 23:48:16 by rack42
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NEW YORK - Airlines and aviation-related companies sued the CIA and the FBI on Tuesday, asking a federal court to let them interview investigators who can tell whether the aviation industry was to blame for the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks or whether it had acted reasonably. The separate lawsuits in U.S. District Court in Manhattan asked a judge to order the government to let the aviation companies gather the information as part of their defense against lawsuits brought by victims or families of victims of the 2001 attacks. In the CIA lawsuit, companies including American Airlines Inc., United Airlines Inc., US Airways Group Inc., Delta Air Lines Inc., Continental Airlines Inc. and The ...

Stu Bykofsky | To save America, we need another 9/11
Post Date: 2007-08-09 20:03:41 by Zipporah
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Stu Bykofsky | To save America, we need another 9/11 ONE MONTH from The Anniversary, I'm thinking another 9/11 would help America. What kind of a sick bastard would write such a thing? A bastard so sick of how splintered we are politically - thanks mainly to our ineptitude in Iraq - that we have forgotten who the enemy is. It is not Bush and it is not Hillary and it is not Daily Kos or Bill O'Reilly or Giuliani or Barack. It is global terrorists who use Islam to justify their hideous sins, including blowing up women and children. Iraq has fractured the U.S. into jigsaw pieces of competing interests that encourage our enemies. We are ...

Henry Waxman finally speaks out on Sibel Edmonds Case!
Post Date: 2007-08-09 18:09:58 by Zipporah
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Transcript of Interview with Henry Waxman…Posted in Main Blog (All Posts) on August 8th, 2007 3:41 pm by HL Here is the first part of the transcript still in progress… HL: It’s an honor to have with us today Henry Waxman, the congressman representing the 30th district of California, which includes Hollywood. Mr. Waxman is also the Chairman on the Committee on oversight and Government Reform, and has singlehandedly been leading the charge against corruption in the Bush administration. Thank you for coming on Henry Waxman: Thank You, pleased to be with you. HL: You’re one of the fighters in the Democratic party and I want to thank you for all your hard work in terms of ...

The Creepy Sides of the 911 Truth Movement
Post Date: 2007-08-08 21:50:47 by Artisan
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911 Truth Movement Musings (Watching the Watchers) The Creepy Sides of the 911 Truth Movement FYI - People have written me about the dead link to Jared Israel's 'debunking of Michael Moore' article, which I included below, http://emperors-clothes.com/moore.htm. The link now leads to the cited article. Sorry for the past inconvenience. 9/9/04 Watch your back, ladies and gentlemen, there are some people with creepy agendas in the 911 Truth Movement, movers & shakers, and people with money. So, you say you want to help expose 911 because you think it's the crime that will wake people in the U.S.A. up? Make them, in some vague way, rise up against it all? Well, watch ...

9/11 Firefighter Sets the Historical Record Straight
Post Date: 2007-08-08 15:35:02 by Eoghan
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BROOKLYN, N.Y. - Firefighter John Schroeder, assigned to Engine Company 10 directly across the street from the World Trade Center complex, holds back tears and describes his first-hand experience on Sept. 11th. His story directly contradicts many aspect of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks though corroborates many other eyewitness testimony.

Airlines, Others Sue FBI, CIA To Depose Agents In 9-11 Cases
Post Date: 2007-08-07 21:20:37 by Zipporah
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Airlines, Others Sue FBI, CIA To Depose Agents In 9-11 CasesAugust 07, 2007: 05:53 PM EST NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Airline manufacturer Boeing Co. (BA), major airlines and several airport operators sued the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Central Intelligence Agency on Tuesday in a bid to question current and former agency employees in connection with negligence litigation over the Sept. 11th terrorist attacks. In separate lawsuits, the airlines and others are challenging decisions by the FBI and the CIA that prevent them from conducting depositions of those employees. The airlines include AMR Corp.'s (AMR) American Airlines, UAL Corp.'s (UAUA) United Airlines, US Airways ...

Video: Sibel Edmonds speaks re how even her Date of Birth is classified
Post Date: 2007-08-07 20:35:13 by Zipporah
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For some background, in the intro/setup, Sibel says: "I had taken the oath to protect my new country, against all enemies, and this was my chance to serve my country. I assumed the enemy was foreign... Within a few months, I came across some serious issues. Wrongdoing. Some of those would be considered criminal, within the FBI. Some of those involved security breaches, 911 related cover-ups, and sabotaged intelligence operations. In one case, due to the pressure of the State Dept and Pentagon, the FBI was prevented from criminally investigating certain US officials who were engaged in actions against our national security, having loyalties to other governments." In this snippet ...

Expert Witness Interviews Luke Ryland re Sibel Edmonds
Post Date: 2007-08-06 21:27:08 by Zipporah
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Mossad Agent Pearlman Releases Phony "Al-Qaeda Tape"
Post Date: 2007-08-06 13:33:26 by honway
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While President Bush authorizes the CIA to bankroll and arm the real Al-Qaeda in Iran Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet Wednesday, May 30, 2007 Adam Pearlman, the Jewish Mossad agent who once wrote stinging essays condemning Muslims as "bloodthirsty terrorists", has once again popped up as an "Al-Qaeda spokesman" to frighten the dwindling number of Americans who still believe Al-Qaeda exists outside of U.S. intelligence circles. "An American member of al-Qaida warned President Bush on Tuesday to end U.S. involvement in all Muslim lands or face an attack worse than the Sept. 11 suicide assault, according to a new videotape." "Wearing a white robe and a ...

Who and what killed the men and women in the B ring of Pentagon on 9/11?
Post Date: 2007-08-03 19:48:33 by honway
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http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=13068 There is a very interesting inconsistency being considered on the thread above. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2001/09/12/AR2005033108366.html Another Pentagon employee, a 37-year-old Marine major, said he was at a meeting in the innermost A Ring when he heard a thud and felt the building shudder. He and his colleagues rushed to help rescue people from an area that appeared most heavily damaged, the B Ring between corridors 4 and 5. http://a188.g.akamaitech.net/f/188/920/5m/...p01/attack.html A 38-year-old Marine major who asked to remain anonymous said he and dozens of his colleagues rushed ...

Sibel Edmonds: I assumed the enemy was foreign
Post Date: 2007-08-03 18:21:38 by Zipporah
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Sibel Edmonds: I assumed the enemy was foreign <>by lukery Fri Aug 03, 2007 at 07:09:06 AM PDTI've put together a quick 5 minute highlight reel of a recent speech by former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds from the American Library Association conference The intro is: "I had taken the oath to protect my new country, against all enemies, and this was my chance to serve my country. I assumed the enemy was foreign... Within a few months, i came across some serious issues. Wrongdoing. Some of those would be considered criminal, within the FBI. Some of those involved security breaches, 911 related cover-ups, and sabotaged intelligence operations. In one case, due to the pressure ...

Stryker, Police Dog Who Helped in 9-11 Recovery Dies
Post Date: 2007-08-03 15:27:50 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
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Written By Samara Martin Ewing 9NEWS NOW Created:8/2/2007 5:03:25 PM Last Updated:8/3/2007 11:31:49 AM Click Here (WUSA) - Stryker worked some of the most high-profile cases in our area. After the terrorist plane crash into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 the German Shephard--along with his handler, Park Police Officer Alice Hanan, searched through the rubble brought from the building. The Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission (M-NCPPC) says Stryker made 108 finds in the disaster's aftermath. Stryker helped search for missing persons Michelle Dorr, Susan Stottmeister and Chandra Levy. He was also brought in after the water taxi accident in Baltimore Harbor in ...

History Channel to Air 9/11 Conspiracies Special [Full Thread]
Post Date: 2007-08-03 10:31:04 by Ringo Blankenship
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UPCOMING SHOWS Sunday, August 12 08:00 PM Monday, August13 12:00 PM An Internet search for "9/11 conspiracy theories" yields nearly two million hits. Were the attacks on 9/11 perpetrated by the Bush Administration to advance its own interests? Could a government missile have hit the Pentagon? As outrageous as these ideas may sound, many people believe them. Why do these theories arise in the first place? An interview with James Miegs, Editor-in-Chief of Popular Mechanics, who refutes many of these theories. Watch as experts in the fields of aeronautics, engineering and the military put these theories to the test. Rating: TVPG Running Time: 120 minutes

Mr. Giuliani, Could You Please Help Our 9/11 Heroes
Post Date: 2007-08-02 21:10:40 by robin
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http://vimeo.com/258071 Mr. Giuliani, Could You Please Help Our 9/11 Heroes from huffpost and Vimeo. Mr. Giuliani, Could You Please Help Our 9/11 Heroes from huffpost and Vimeo. Poster Comment: Il Rudy, 1 day ago: Rudy Giuliani from huffpost and Vimeo.

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