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Title: Cheney aligns GOP future with Limbaugh over Powell
Source: Associated Press
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Published: May 10, 2009
Author: Associated Pres
Post Date: 2009-05-10 18:55:15 by Brian S
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Dick Cheney made clear Sunday he'd rather follow firebrand broadcaster Rush Limbaugh than former Joint Chiefs chairman Colin Powell into political battle over the future of the Republican Party.

Even as Cheney embraced efforts to expand the party by ex-governors Jeb Bush of Florida and Mitt Romney of Massachusetts and the House's No. 2 Republican, VirginiaRep. Eric Cantor, the former vice president appeared to write his one-time colleague Powell out of the GOP.

Asked about recent verbal broadsides between Limbaugh and Powell, Cheney said, "If I had to choose in terms of being a Republican, I'd go with Rush Limbaugh. My take on it was Colin had already left the party. I didn't know he was still a Republican."

Powell, who was secretary of State under President George W. Bush and held the nation's top military post under President George H.W. Bush, endorsed Democrat Barack Obama for president last year. Nonetheless, since the election he has described himself as a Republican and a right-of-center conservative, though "not as right as others would like."

Cheney, citing Powell's backing of Obama over Republican nominee John McCain, said, "I assumed that that is some indication of his loyalty and his interests."

Cheney's remarks on CBS' Face the Nation were the latest step in his slow-motion estrangement from Powell since the two worked closely together to manage the Persian Gulf war in 1991 — Powell as the Army general who was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Cheney as Defense secretary for the elder Bush.

Under the younger Bush, Powell initially backed action against Iraq's Saddam Hussein and delivered a famous U.N. speech laying out the U.S. case. But Powell and Cheney increasingly parted ways over the Bush administration's policies on the war and terrorism, with Cheney usually prevailing. Powell left the administration after Bush's first term.

Wading into the debate over the GOP's future, Cheney called efforts by George W. Bush's brother Jeb, along with Cantor and Romney, as "a good thing to do," but set a limit on how far the party should go.

"The suggestion our Democratic friends always make is somehow if you Republicans were just more like Democrats, you'd win elections," Cheney said. "Well, I don't buy that. We win elections when we have good solid conservative principles to run upon."

Powell has argued the Republican Party needs to move toward the center and reach out to growing black, Hispanic and Asian communities but instead has been shrinking because it hasn't changed as the country changed in the face of economic distress. "Americans are looking for more government in their life, not less," Powell said last week.

For months, Powell has urged the party to turn away from the acid-tongued Limbaugh. "I think what Rush does as an entertainer diminishes the party and intrudes or inserts into our public life a kind of nastiness that we would be better to do without," Powell said.

"Colin Powell is just another liberal," Limbaugh retorted. "What Colin Powell needs to do is close the loop and become a Democrat." Limbaugh said Powell is "just mad at me because I'm the one person in the country that had the guts to explain his endorsement of Obama. It was purely and solely based on race." Both Powell and Obama are black.

On other topics on the CBS interview, Cheney:

• said transferring suspected terrorists from the military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to the United States would be a bad idea that would enlarge their legal rights. Obama's national security adviser, retired Marine Gen. James Jones, told ABC's This Week the White House isn't going to do that if it would make Americans less safe.

• reiterated his belief the U.S. has become more vulnerable to a potential terrorist attack since the Obama administration renounced harsh interrogation tactics such as waterboarding, which simulates drowning, that Cheney said provided good intelligence. Jones said he didn't believe the nation was at greater risk and that even some in the Bush administration disagreed with Cheney on that score.

• renewed his call for the administration to release two CIA memos he said list successes derived from those interrogations, including "attack planning that was underway and how it was stopped." The Obama administration is reviewing Cheney's request. Obama has said the memos are not so clear-cut and do not address whether the information could have been obtained without such methods.

• said he has been speaking out about the Obama administration although George W. Bush remains silent, because if he didn't, "then the critics have free run, and there isn't anybody there on the other side to tell the truth."

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Dick Cheney made clear Sunday he'd rather follow firebrand broadcaster Rush Limbaugh

Cheney's too arrogant to follow anybody.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2009-05-10   19:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

What a fucking joke is cheney.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-05-10   20:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

I am beginning to think the GOP has no future and that's a GOOD thing.

If this were a sane country, the Libertarians would already have displaced it as the major opposition party, but there are too many insane MIC-related warmongers and Southern Baptist "we hate big government except when we don't" nanny state conservatives who will never vote for REAL freedom.

They should sing "I'm proud to be an American, where at least I'm G-O-P" instead of "at least I know I'm free." They are not free and don't want to be and, what's worse, they want to make sure NONE of us is free.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-05-10   20:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Sam Houston (#3)

What you don't realize is that many Americans agree with Cheney. Why the Democrats were made popular this last time around is anybody's guess. It doesn't matter. Madison Avenue can make Satan popular.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-10   20:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

Powell is an Affirmative Action clown who supported Obama for racial reasons and disparaged Palin. I have no use for him.

Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs...that's Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-05-10   20:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#0)

I have exactly *no* use for any of these three bums. The greatest threat to conservatism is the GOP.

"Americans are looking for more government in their life, not less," Powell said last week.

Eff you, LaTrash.

Thanks for nuthin', Jr.

Old Fud  posted on  2009-05-10   22:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deasy (#4) (Edited)

I realize it. I live in the most backward region of Texas. McThuselah and Palin got 74 percent of the vote in this county. It wouldn't have been quite that high without Palin, but it'd still have been almost 70, I'd say. These people don't know what they are for. But they know from listening to Limbaugh, Hannity, and most important of all, their Southern Baptist preachers, who and what to be AGAINST.

I was shocked when Obama won by 9.5 million in the popular vote in an apparently honest election. I may be wrong, but I now believe that the American South (and certain isolated enclaves scattered around the country, mostly in the rural areas) is the only CLEARLY insane region left in the country. And that is, I repeat, a GOOD thing.

The GOPers are facing a demographic problem by compounding it and calling on "purifying" and "cleansing" the party of non-REAL Americans (and everyone knows how they define REAL). Had they perfected the art of stealing elections, as I thought they had done, this would not be a problem. Alas, it appears that their opponents have found a way to neutralize the proprietary software.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-05-11   8:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Sam Houston (#7)

I realize it. I live in the most backward region of Texas

Cut and Shoot or Palestine?

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-05-11   9:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tom007 (#8)

I'm north of those two locations but the "Igner'nt Belt" extends northward up into Oklahoma and Arkansas and then, of course, eastward to the Atlantic in an almost uninterrupted stretch of near-retardation-level average IQs.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-05-11   9:21:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deasy (#4)

While the current GOP leadership was busy upgrading their country club memberships over the past few decades, their kids were being indoctrinated in government schools. Limbaugh and Cheney appeal to some of their grandparents, and hence the problem; they'll ALWAYS be good for 30% of the vote, but their demographic is dying off. Political change will come with a new 60s-like era led by kids who are tired of being put on the back of the affirmative action bus.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-11   9:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Brian S (#0)

Limbaugh and Cheney are better then that nigger Powell.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-05-11   9:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Sam Houston (#7)

Southerners by in large are much smarter and have better morals then northerners. I'm from the North.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-05-11   10:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Old Friend (#12)

Maybe they are smarter than you, although some would no doubt make the mistake you just made. The phrase is "by and large," not "by in large."

This is the first time I've seen this particular misusage. It is similar to those who write "one in the same" when they mean "one and the same."

BTW, there have been numerous studies done on average IQ levels of the various states and regions. The Deep Southern states' populations DO have documentably lower IQs. Texas' population, as I recall in one study, was exactly average at 100.

The Southerners are, in general, very emotional (therefore easily manipulated by psy ops such as 9/11) and very aggressive. They have provided the popular will (and manpower, for that matter) for most of our misguided wars of the last century or so.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-05-11   10:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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