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Title: I Gave A Lot Of False Information
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/
Published: May 11, 2009
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2009-05-11 22:49:53 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 237
Comments: 8

9/11 Mastermind: "During ... My Interrogation I Gave A Lot Of False Information In Order To Satisfy What I Believed The Interrogators Wished To Hear"

The Red Cross is the organization charged with deciding what is torture and what isn't.

The International Committee of the Red Cross interviewed Khalid Shaikh Mohammed - the alleged 9/11 mastermind - at Guantanamo Bay.

Here's what KSM told the Red Cross:

During the harshest period of my interrogation I gave a lot of false information in order to satisfy what I believed the interrogators wished to hear in order to make the ill-treatment stop. I later told the interrogators that their methods were stupid and counterproductive. I'm sure that the false information I was forced to invent in order to make the ill-treatment stop wasted a lot of their time and led to several false red-alerts being placed in the U.S. Straight from the horse's mouth:

Torture doesn't work; and The 9/11 Commission report was based on worthless confessions extracted by torture (and, as I've previously discussed, the witness who fingered Khalid Shaikh Mohammed as the mastermind of 9/11 was himself literally crazy. Thus, the title of this piece should, more accurately, start out with the words "Alleged 9/11 Mastermind").

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

He confessed to everything except the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. That was probably before his time.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-05-11   22:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

He confessed to everything except the Lindbergh baby kidnapping.

Wouldn't most of us confess to that and to shooting the Pope or whatever else we thought they wanted to hear if they would stop torturing us? Sure, some people would hold out longer than others but there probably are very few people who would hold out indefinitely under torture.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-11   23:00:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Horse (#0) (Edited)

Cheney's argument for torture is that the ends justify the means, which is the opposite of the absolute moral values his party supposedly stands for, but the ends in this case were apparently of no value anyway.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2009-05-11   23:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: James Deffenbach (#2)

This is common knowledge: everyone can be broken.

I saw it on 24 tonight again. The ticking time bomb scenario - Jack 'torture always works' Bauer.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-05-11   23:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

Sure. Even those with a very high threshold of pain still have their limit.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-11   23:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz, MUDDOG, James Deffenbach (#4)

I just thought of this. Maybe the torture of KSM was designed to give false information to help the cover up of 911.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2009-05-11   23:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Horse (#6)

They tell us what they want us to hear, see, believe.

KSM could be a cutout, now that you mention it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-05-12   0:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Horse (#6)

I just thought of this. Maybe the torture of KSM was designed to give false information to help the cover up of 911.

That is quite possible.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-12   8:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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