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Title: US detainee abuse 'unprecedented'
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Published: May 14, 2009
Author: Al Jazeera and agencies
Post Date: 2009-05-14 09:00:35 by tom007
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Comments: 5

US detainee abuse 'unprecedented' Al-Qaeda suspects' faces were waterboarded hundreds of times [AP - simulation]

A former US official has accused the administration of George Bush, the former president, of authorising "unprecedented" acts of abuse during the interrogation of terror suspects.

Phillip Zelikow told a US senate hearing on torture practices that the Bush administration was guilty of a "collective failure" over the interrogation of "war on terror" detainees.

"The US government over the past seven years adopted an unprecedented programme in American history of cruelly calculated dehumanising abuse and physical torment to extract information," Zelikow said on Wednesday.

"This was a mistake, perhaps disastrous one. It was a collective failure in which a number of officials and members of congress and staffers of both parties played a part, endorsing a CIA programme of physical coercion."

The Bush administration has been widely criticised for allowing the use of "waterboarding", which simulates the sensation of drowning, sleep deprivation and other interrogation methods, all practices heavily criticised by human rights groups.

Zelikow, who served as an aide to Condoleezza Rice, the former US secretary of state, also testified that in 2006, former administration officials sought to collect and destroy copies of a memo he wrote opposing those methods.

"I heard the memo was not considered appropriate for further discussion and that copies of my memo should be collected and destroyed."

The hearings come as Barack Obama, the US president, challenged the Pentagon's planned release of photos depicting abuse of detainees in Afghanistan or Iraq.

The White House said he was acting on advice from military commanders that publishing the photos could endanger US troops.

Torture row

Nancy Pelosi has been accused of not speaking out on detainee abuse [Reuters] Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, has also come under recent fire over whether she knew about torture practices carried out under the Bush administration.

Recent reports allege that CIA officials had briefed an aide to Pelosi about interrogation techniques, including waterboarding, which was used hundreds of time on top al-Qaeda suspects.

Memo written by Bush-era legal officials released last month argued that tactics that also included face slapping and using insects to scare prisoners were not torture.

A Senate Intelligence Committee also released last month also said top Bush officials, such as Condoleezza Rice, then national security adviser, and Dick Cheney, the former vice-president, had approved the CIA's interrogation programme, including waterboarding, in 2002.

Rice has denied she approved the torture of detainees.

The Obama administration has left the door open to prosecute those who authorised torture, but has said it will not charge people who carried out orders to use torture. Source: Al Jazeera and agencies

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

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randge  posted on  2009-05-14   9:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tom007 (#0)

'It's perfectly Orwellian... It's just more evidence that this Administration is becoming the greatest bait-and-swich in history. He's morphing into his predecessor.' --Law Professor Jonathan Turley, referring to Barack Obama 13 May 2009 (MSNBC)

* Obama Considers Detaining Terror Suspects Indefinitely The Obama administration is weighing plans to detain some terror suspects on U.S. soil -- indefinitely and without trial -- as part of a plan to retool military commission trials that were conducted for prisoners held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

* Obama Reverses Stance and Seeks to Block Detainee Photo Release President Barack Obama has reversed his stance and is seeking to block release of photographs that show the treatment of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan by U.S. personnel, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said. US: Cuts in Social Security, Medicare to pay for bank bailouts

* A government report made public Tuesday indicates that Social Security and Medicare will deplete their trust funds more quickly than previously forecast. This has sparked new demands from within the US financial elite for substantial cuts in the two entitlement programs, which pay retirement and medical benefits for tens of millions of working class Americans.

* Obama threatens to limit U.S. intel with Brits The Obama administration says it may curtail Anglo-American intelligence sharing if the British High Court discloses new details of the treatment of a former Guantanamo detainee.

* A court filing from the British Foreign Office released recently includes a letter from the U.S. government, identified as the "Obama administration's communication." Other information identifying the U.S. agency and author of the letter appears to have been redacted. After Afghan massacre, Washington says airstrikes will go on

* In the final days of his trip to Washington, President Hamid Karzai demanded an end to US airstrikes in Afghanistan. In response, US National Security Adviser Gen. James Jones (ret.) insisted that the bombing of Afghan villages will continue, whether the country’s supposed sovereign government likes it or not.

* The juxtaposition of Karzai’s and Jones’ remarks speaks volumes about the nature of the US war in Afghanistan. It is a dirty, colonial-style intervention in which Washington dictates policy to a puppet government while unleashing military violence against an increasingly hostile population.

* Some US soldiers forced to steal water in Iraq Rations and problems trigger desperate measures to survive intense heat

Take Houston’s heat on a miserable summer day and add 40 degrees, making temperatures 130 or more. Next, add an extra 100 pounds of life-protecting gear to your body: bulletproof vests, guns and ammunition. And then imagine not having enough water around to drink.

Stories of short supplies have haunted the U.S. military throughout the war in Iraq—things like inadequate body armor or unshielded Hummers. But while many soldiers say they had good access to water and even Gatorade, the 11 News Defenders discovered that others, stationed all over the country and during all phases of this desert war, say something else was often missing.

“We were rationed two bottles of water a day,” said Army Staff Sgt. Dustin Robey, referring to 1 to 1.5 liter bottles.

And he said that wasn’t nearly enough. “You’ll see guys throw up, you’ll see them pass out,” he said.

* Obama Sides With Bush in Spy Case The Obama administration fell in line with the Bush administration Thursday when it urged a federal judge to set aside a ruling in a closely watched spy case weighing whether a U.S. president may bypass Congress and eavesdrop on Americans without warrants.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2009-05-14   9:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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"The US government over the past seven years adopted an unprecedented programme in American history of cruelly calculated dehumanising abuse and physical torment to extract information," Zelikow said on Wednesday.

In whose history is there a precedent?

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Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-14   9:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tom007 (#0)

The pics should be released. Let the chips fall where they may. Get the truth out.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-05-14   10:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tom007 (#0) (Edited)

CIA officials had briefed an aide to Pelosi about interrogation techniques, including waterboarding,

They keep bring up waterboarding, but I bet my LIFE that there is a hell of a lot more to it than that.

They are scared to death of having those pics released.

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It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.

It's a forum post, not a doctoral thesis.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-05-14   10:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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