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Title: PrisonPlanet Amps Up Use Of Canard: "I am not an anti-semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified)"
Source: PRISON PLANET FORUM
URL Source: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=26252.440
Published: May 16, 2009
Author: .
Post Date: 2009-05-16 07:57:02 by Artisan
Ping List: *Alex Jones*
Keywords: None
Views: 586
Comments: 32

PrisonPlanet.com is increasingly using the 'anti-semite' canard, and had a moderator changed the name of a topic to I am not an anti-semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified) I do not know what the original title was. The topic now has 121 pages of replies.(!) Here is the latest page from that thread.

Meanwhile, the article FEAR AND CENSORSHIP RAMPANT IN "PATRIOT" COMMUNITY, which I first posted here at 4um, was linked on the front page of Rense.com.

Mike Rivero of Whatreallyhappened.com responded to one of his members who posted it:

Fear and Censorship Rampant In "Patriot" Community I post this as food for thought.The NWO boys use divide and conquer tactics to keep us all apart and ineffective. I do'nt know that the author is trying to stir up trouble.However he makes some valid points. Being of Ashkenazi background myself,1/8 to be exact(I'm a real American mutt,ancestor wise) I do not like to see carte blanche attacks on "Jews".Zionism which I once supported is the problem along with the fractional reserve usurious banking system. I hope that Mike or Alex do'nt get mad at me. United we stand,divided we fall!

Rivero responds:

I am not mad at you. You are correct; in recent weeks there has been an obvious campaign to try to get the patriot movement to turn on itself. Now that the corporate media has finally been forced to report what the blogs have been telling you all along; that the entire case for war (including the frame-up for 9-11) was based on confessions extracted under torture, attempts to disrupt the blog-o-sphere will no doubt intensify. But we will not be tricked. We will not be silenced! And the price to shut us up just went WAY up! :)
Michael Rivero
webmaster
What Really Happened
05/15/2009 - 08:18

PrisonPlanet member Ready4truth posted the topic Fear and Censorship Rampant In "Patriot" Community and added "Ok, now lets see how much this forum supports free speech..."

PrisonPlanet member TurnerBurn posted a topic Alex, are you going to respond to the Texe Marrs attack on Bermas?

What are you waiting for? Rense has had a whole section devoted to this nonsense. And f.y.i. Alexa ranks rense.com as having a larger footprint than prisonplanet.com and it is slightly smaller than infowars.com. So, that's alot of people seeing Texe Marrs bad-mouth Jason Bermas. It's time to expose Rense for the freak that he is. And it's time to call out your old buddy Texe Marrs. Publicly!!! Enough you-tube stuff. They're a private entity, and they're entitled to control content. Just as you are. What are you going to do now that your alleged friend is on the attack??

B.T.W. Don't flame me chumps! I've been a loyal listener/subscriber for years. I'm just tired of generic responses to the Reagans, Savages, Becks, etc, but not one distinct response to the "alternative" media attacks. Especially to sources that are not that far away from being at the tip of the electronic spear

Some of the members replies were as follows:

I agree with you... I think a response is necessary at this point.

I would like to see Alex have Jason and Texe discuss this issue. We can have Jason and Texe on Infowarior talk about it.

Haha...Yeah right, Jones should come out and say Boring Bermas was right to say the caller should kill himself...because it's goooood to say things like that. Care to suggest a possible defence for Jones to make?

The original topic at prisonplanet which was deleted is available at google cache: Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Should Hang themselves and also in archive with stats, and all the deleted replies, here at boardreader.com. I have never heard of boardreader.com, but it looks like an interesting and useful site.

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#10. To: Artisan, PSUSA (#0)

If anyone can point to one of these "alternative media" people..any of them... and with total certainty tell me they are real (as opposed to controlled oppostition and agent provacateurs), please report to the nearest red phone and dial 6.

IndieTX  posted on  2009-05-16   14:56:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

and with total certainty tell me they are real (as opposed to controlled opposition and agent provacateurs)

i've met many freedom activists and many in the alternative media. some are personal friends. while no one can say anything with total certainty, i have to say, i'd be pretty stunned if i learned they were controlled op or agent provocateurs.

christine  posted on  2009-05-16   16:27:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i've met many freedom activists and many in the alternative media. some are personal friends. while no one can say anything with total certainty, i have to say, i'd be pretty stunned if i learned they were controlled op or agent provocateurs.

Don't kid yourself. Some likely are and you probably know at least one without knowing it. That does not mean that we must live in fear, but must be vigilant against betrayal by someone who has gained confidence and then gets the order to do something to discredit Patriots. CoIntelPro is alive and well - they've just become a little more sophisticated. That is why my ardent defense of Alex Jones has cooled to its current "accumulating data" position.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-05-16   23:16:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Don't kid yourself. Some likely are and you probably know at least one without knowing it.

That's the principle.

They have to get your trust first. They don't come off as shady or underhanded.

I know you're still "accumulating data", but he is a perfect example IMO. People first wake up, then they do a little research, and they go to him because his sites are very popular. I see him as a "catcher" when it comes to controlled opposition. He collects those that drop into his lap and hangs onto them by providing mostly good info, but sneaks in the disinfo. You caught him doing that, so did Artisan, so did I, so did others.

You also saw people here defending the indefensible by calling us agents (and worse) and saying that this was all somehow coordinated with jones' release of the obama movie. But it is odd how it all seemed to happen at once. I guess we just got fed up at the same time.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-05-17   8:18:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I know you're still "accumulating data", but he is a perfect example IMO. People first wake up, then they do a little research, and they go to him because his sites are very popular. I see him as a "catcher" when it comes to controlled opposition. He collects those that drop into his lap and hangs onto them by providing mostly good info, but sneaks in the disinfo. You caught him doing that, so did Artisan, so did I, so did others.

That is basically the pattern that was followed by "Pills", Viagra Vacation in Pedophile Land, Limbaugh. For the first years of his program he worked at developing credibility through the use of accurate information and humor. The big change came in 1998 about the time Geeeeeeeeeeeee Duhbya announced, or it was becoming apparent he would announce, for the Preznitcy. He went from being a reasonably reliable vendor of fact and opinion to an outright disinformation source. The first time I caught him throwing in what had to be intentional disinformation I was bothered, the second time I was gone.

So, I'm still in the "is he or isn't he?" phase of analyzing Jones. I am leaning torward your conclusion but am not convinced enough to say with the same certainty the way I can speak of the Mahajunkie a.k.a. "Lord Haw Haw". Jones's game is a little more sophisticated in that it involves manipulating emotional response through the manner in which he presents information. One of the disturbing memes seems to be "all is lost" despite his spoken words to the contrary.

Have you noticed one of the changes in his program over the last few months (about 6 to 8 months)? He has stopped pushing or promoting active resistance groups such as "We Are Change". It was a pretty stark change like someone flipped a switch. When Luke Rudkowski was recently arrested at a press conference merely for being there he had to give it some coverage but it was relatively minimal.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-05-17   10:10:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#21. To: Original_Intent (#20)

Have you noticed one of the changes in his program over the last few months (about 6 to 8 months)? He has stopped pushing or promoting active resistance groups such as "We Are Change". It was a pretty stark change like someone flipped a switch. When Luke Rudkowski was recently arrested at a press conference merely for being there he had to give it some coverage but it was relatively minimal.

No, I didnt notice that. But I wasn't a regular listener. I caught him on Coast to Coast AM with Noorey and listened to a few audio files, and that was about it. It's his websites that I focus on as well as the 'tube and audio clips posted here.

I agree with you about limbaugh, I thought the same things. My final straw was when I heard hime with my own ears excuse the torture at Abu Ghraib as being like college pranks. He was on the way out, but that was the end of me listening to him.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-05-17 12:16:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Have you noticed one of the changes in his program over the last few months (about 6 to 8 months)? He has stopped pushing or promoting active resistance groups such as "We Are Change". It was a pretty stark change like someone flipped a switch

I thought of a good analogy yesterday. never in a million years would i have imagined jones website forums becoming like free republic. Today i caught a few minutes of the refeed of his show (via cellphone, the only way i listen) and he was speaking with disdain about political correctness. that was good for a laugh.

his site is policed by what is obviously control-freak jew/zionists just like free republic is, and his 'protoge' is like michael reagan junior. but, don't ya know, when reagan does it he should be fired arrested and scorned, but when alex junior does it,

if anyone dares mention it you're just a jealous troublemaker/infighter. ha ha.

Artisan  posted on  2009-05-18 03:59:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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