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Title: PrisonPlanet Amps Up Use Of Canard: "I am not an anti-semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified)"
Source: PRISON PLANET FORUM
URL Source: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=26252.440
Published: May 16, 2009
Author: .
Post Date: 2009-05-16 07:57:02 by Artisan
Ping List: *Alex Jones*
Keywords: None
Views: 619
Comments: 32

PrisonPlanet.com is increasingly using the 'anti-semite' canard, and had a moderator changed the name of a topic to I am not an anti-semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified) I do not know what the original title was. The topic now has 121 pages of replies.(!) Here is the latest page from that thread.

Meanwhile, the article FEAR AND CENSORSHIP RAMPANT IN "PATRIOT" COMMUNITY, which I first posted here at 4um, was linked on the front page of Rense.com.

Mike Rivero of Whatreallyhappened.com responded to one of his members who posted it:

Fear and Censorship Rampant In "Patriot" Community I post this as food for thought.The NWO boys use divide and conquer tactics to keep us all apart and ineffective. I do'nt know that the author is trying to stir up trouble.However he makes some valid points. Being of Ashkenazi background myself,1/8 to be exact(I'm a real American mutt,ancestor wise) I do not like to see carte blanche attacks on "Jews".Zionism which I once supported is the problem along with the fractional reserve usurious banking system. I hope that Mike or Alex do'nt get mad at me. United we stand,divided we fall!

Rivero responds:

I am not mad at you. You are correct; in recent weeks there has been an obvious campaign to try to get the patriot movement to turn on itself. Now that the corporate media has finally been forced to report what the blogs have been telling you all along; that the entire case for war (including the frame-up for 9-11) was based on confessions extracted under torture, attempts to disrupt the blog-o-sphere will no doubt intensify. But we will not be tricked. We will not be silenced! And the price to shut us up just went WAY up! :)
Michael Rivero
webmaster
What Really Happened
05/15/2009 - 08:18

PrisonPlanet member Ready4truth posted the topic Fear and Censorship Rampant In "Patriot" Community and added "Ok, now lets see how much this forum supports free speech..."

PrisonPlanet member TurnerBurn posted a topic Alex, are you going to respond to the Texe Marrs attack on Bermas?

What are you waiting for? Rense has had a whole section devoted to this nonsense. And f.y.i. Alexa ranks rense.com as having a larger footprint than prisonplanet.com and it is slightly smaller than infowars.com. So, that's alot of people seeing Texe Marrs bad-mouth Jason Bermas. It's time to expose Rense for the freak that he is. And it's time to call out your old buddy Texe Marrs. Publicly!!! Enough you-tube stuff. They're a private entity, and they're entitled to control content. Just as you are. What are you going to do now that your alleged friend is on the attack??

B.T.W. Don't flame me chumps! I've been a loyal listener/subscriber for years. I'm just tired of generic responses to the Reagans, Savages, Becks, etc, but not one distinct response to the "alternative" media attacks. Especially to sources that are not that far away from being at the tip of the electronic spear

Some of the members replies were as follows:

I agree with you... I think a response is necessary at this point.

I would like to see Alex have Jason and Texe discuss this issue. We can have Jason and Texe on Infowarior talk about it.

Haha...Yeah right, Jones should come out and say Boring Bermas was right to say the caller should kill himself...because it's goooood to say things like that. Care to suggest a possible defence for Jones to make?

The original topic at prisonplanet which was deleted is available at google cache: Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Should Hang themselves and also in archive with stats, and all the deleted replies, here at boardreader.com. I have never heard of boardreader.com, but it looks like an interesting and useful site.

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#1. To: Artisan, christine, HOUNDDAWG (#0) (Edited)

a moderator changed the name of a topic to I am not an anti- semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified) I do not know what the original title was.

The original title was: Zionism is the Top of the Pyramid

AJ is obviously fronting for a larger agency.

Edit: btw, here's the category trail of the mentioned thread:

Off Topic / Faux Controversies / Whining Threads / UFO's (Moderator: aLLyOuRbAsE) > I am not an anti-semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified)

bluegrass  posted on  2009-05-16   8:13:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: bluegrass, Artisan (#1)

a moderator changed the name of a topic

wow, that is so wrong. alex really should address this.

christine  posted on  2009-05-16   11:01:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine, bluegrass, itistoolate, psusa, rickyj, original_intent, twentytwelve (#8) (Edited)

here is the article in it's completion, posted at iamthewitness.com

----> PrisonPlanet.com Amps Up Use Of "Anti-Semite" Canard

5-16-09

In what is seemingly a response to the recent Jason Bermas "Jew Critics Are 'Anti- Semites' Who Should Hang Or Electrocute Themselves" controversy, PrisonPlanet.com and it's forum moderators are increasingly using the 'anti- semite' canard, with moderators recently changing the name of a topic to
"I am not an anti-semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified)". The topic was started by PrisonPlanet forum user 'Infowarrior uk' and was orignally entitled 'Zionism is the Top of the Pyramid; it promoted a youtube video trailer which was here, before youtube deleted it moments ago, probably at the urging of their censorship partner the ADL.. PrisonPlanet's altering of a user's discussion thread title has caused a firestorm of criticism from PrisonPlanet's own members, with the topic reaching an amazing 121 pages of replies(!) so far. Here is the latest page from that thread.

Obviously this is a topic that truth seekers want to research and discuss. Let's briefly revisit some political and religious implications of criticizing Israel in 2009, and then I will summarize how this relates to the recent PrisonPlanet fiasco. The "mainstream" media demonized Richard Williamson as an "anti-semite" an "holocaust denier" after Pope Benedict recently lifted his excommunication, along with three other members of the Society of Saint Pius X.

Perhaps this is why PrisonPlanet and other '9/11 truth' websites made no mention of Williamson's very notable comments regarding 9/11 being an inside job. A recent speech given by Williamson on the topic reveals that he has the intelligence and discernment to question governments on a number of issues which the "establishment" would rather not bring up:

"It's not ruling us today, it's not a party as brutal as the Stalinist was, it's not yet a police state imposing upon us to say that two and two are five, but the police state, as everyone of you certainly knows, is closing in both here and in the United States for sure and certain. The police state took a great leap forwards with 911, that's for certain and I hope that none of you believe that 911 is what it was presented to be, it was (of course the two towers came down) but it was absolutely for certain not two aeroplanes that brought down those two towers, they were professionally demolished by a series of demolition charges from top to the bottom of the towers. If you doubt that, look up on the internet 911mysteries.com.

I mention this in sermons. Why do I keep mentioning this in sermons? Because TRUTH is at stake. Because if the towers were pulled down by two aeroplanes, then the party is virtually in control. The party has got control of people's minds, the party can push through all kinds of lies in its media, and if the people swallow the lies, they will be enslaved. Our Lord said, "The truth will make you free",33; the corollary of which is 'Lies will enslave you.'

At the moment, the whole world is being told lies by these media, by the government, by the politicians, by the universities, by the teachers, and worst of all, alas, by the cardinals and the highest authorities in the Church. We are being enslaved by lies, and the most outstanding global lie of recent times to enslave the minds of all of us, or to deceive the minds of all of us, and thereby to enslave us by making us all believe that the police state is a good thing and a necessary thing. And that is why the police state has advanced in leaps and bounds as it has. The greatest example is 911. And that is a classic example of an enslaving lie."

Why on earth would so many truth sites completely omit mention of such a wonderfully eloquent speech by a religious leader? Obviously it is his comments regarding the historical evidence about the number of holocaust victims and the use of gas chambers which turned Williamson into a non entity. There is also the issue of his brand of 'Catholicism', which is not particularly relevent to our discussion, but just to touch on it, Williamson and the three other 'bishops' were ordained without church authority by Archbishop Lefebvre, and all were therefore excommunicated as a result in 1989.

When Pope Benedict XVI lifted this punishment of excommunication from the church a few months ago, it caused so much angst among the establishment that the Pope himself had to issue a statement regarding and clarifying this issue, which he did on March 10, 2009. You can read it here:

LETTER OF HIS HOLINESS POPE BENEDICT XVI TO THE BISHOPS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CONCERNING THE REMISSION OF THE EXCOMMUNICATION OF THE FOUR BISHOPS CONSECRATED BY ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE

Meanwhile the press is reporting Jews tell Vatican: Holocaust denial Is Crime. The ADL says that September 11 "conspiracy theories" are being spread by "anti-semites" and aiding "terrorists". Jane Harman with her AIPAC connections advocates slanderous hate crime bills demonizing 9/11 truthers. Paul Craig Roberts recently wrote, Criminalizing criticism of Israel is the end of free speech. The news is reporting that

Pro- Israel 'bloggers' are joining the 'media war' (Sounds strangely smiliar to "InfoWar", doesn't it?) and

Israeli Group Asks US Government to Censor and Investigate Americans Who Criticize Israel.

On the religous front, we have rabbi's telling the Pope that he should not wear a Crucifix at the Western Wall. Check out the Catholic laity response to this.

In February 2008 some Jews demanded the Pope rewrite an 'offensive' prayer for Jewish conversion, insisting he remove references to "darkness" and "blindness". The Pope conceded to their wishes and they still complained, when finally a Vatican cardinal defends Jewish conversion prayer the next week.

What a stark change from less than 500 years ago, when Catholic Pope said on the following; (just imagine the "angst" and hand wringing which will be the result from me 'daring' to print the following historical words of a Catholic Pope?)

Pope Eugenius IV, in 1442, issued the following decree:

"We decree and order that from now on, and for all time, Christians shall not eat or drink with Jews; nor admit them to feasts, nor cohabit with them, nor bathe with them. Christians shall not allow Jews to hold civil honors over Christians, or to exercise public offices in the State. Jews cannot be merchants, Tax Collectors, or agents in the buying and selling of the produce and goods of Christians, nor their Procurators, Computers or Lawyers in matrimonial matters, nor Obstetricians; nor can they have association or partnership with Christians. No Christian can leave or bequeath anything in his last Will and Testament to Jews or their congregations. Jews are prohibited from erecting new synagogues. They are obliged to pay annually a tenth part of their goods and holdings. Against them Christians can testify, but the testimony of Jews against Christians in no case is of any value. All and every single Jew, of whatever sex and age, must everywhere wear the distinct dress and known marks by which they can be evidently distinguished from Christians. They cannot live among Christians, but in a certain street, separated and segregated from Christians, and outside which they cannot under any pretext have houses".

For more on this, you can see this page:

The Talmud Unmasked: The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians


by Rev. I. B. Pranaitis, Roman Catholic Priest; Master of Theology and Professor of the Hebrew Language at the Imperial Ecclesiastical Academy of the Roman Catholic Church in Old St. Petersburg. 1892
(This also has an imprimatur, which is the Church's confirmation that the document is free from all moral and doctrinal error.)

There's more!

In 1244, Pope Innocent IV also ordered the burning of Jewish books. He exhorted the King of France as follows:

"Our dear Son, the Chancellor of Paris, and the Doctors, before the clergy and people, publicly burned by fire the aforesaid books (The Talmud) with all their appendices. We beg and beseech your Celestial Majesty in the Lord Jesus, that, having begun laudably and piously to prosecute those who perpetuate these detestable excesses, that you continue with due severity. And that you command throughout your whole kingdom that the aforesaid books with all their glossaries, already condemned by the Doctors, be committed to the flames. Firmly prohibiting Jews from having Christians as servants and nurses.

Pope Gregory IX sent the following to the archbishops of Germany:

"The Jews, who are admitted to our acquaintance only through our mercy, should never forget their yoke of perpetual slavery, which they bear through their own fault. In the Council of Toledo it was decreed that Jews of both sexes, and for all time, should be distinguished from others by their mode of dress. We therefore command that each and every one of you to have all the excesses of the Jews completely repressed, lest they should presume to raise their necks from the yoke of servitude in contumely of the Redeemer; forbidding them to discuss in any way concerning their faith or rites with Christians.

Incidently, here is a good page on 9/11, where I found the above quotes some time back, while researching freemasonry. http://www.todayscatholicworld.com/who-pulled-911.htm

The establishment press and even so-called "independent" media leaders have always sought, to some degree, to control what information is disseminated. I will sum up with some reaction to my previous article and urge everyone to maintain the fierce spirit of independence and autonomy, while maintaining Christian charity. I pray that I can be a good example of this as well.
FEAR AND CENSORSHIP RAMPANT IN "PATRIOT" COMMUNITY was linked on the front page of Rense.com.

Mike Rivero of Whatreallyhappened.com responded to one of his members who posted it:

Fear and Censorship Rampant In "Patriot" Community I post this as food for thought.The NWO boys use divide and conquer tactics to keep us all apart and ineffective. I do'nt know that the author is trying to stir up trouble.However he makes some valid points. Being of Ashkenazi background myself,1/8 to be exact(I'm a real American mutt,ancestor wise) I do not like to see carte blanche attacks on "Jews".Zionism which I once supported is the problem along with the fractional reserve usurious banking system. I hope that Mike or Alex do'nt get mad at me. United we stand,divided we fall!

Rivero responds:

I am not mad at you. You are correct; in recent weeks there has been an obvious campaign to try to get the patriot movement to turn on itself. Now that the corporate media has finally been forced to report what the blogs have been telling you all along; that the entire case for war (including the frame-up for 9-11) was based on confessions extracted under torture, attempts to disrupt the blog-o-sphere will no doubt intensify. But we will not be tricked. We will not be silenced! And the price to shut us up just went WAY up! :)
Michael Rivero
webmaster
What Really Happened
05/15/2009 - 08:18

PrisonPlanet member Ready4truth posted the topic Fear and Censorship Rampant In "Patriot" Community and added "Ok, now lets see how much this forum supports free speech..."

PrisonPlanet member TurnerBurn posted a topic Alex, are you going to respond to the Texe Marrs attack on Bermas?

What are you waiting for? Rense has had a whole section devoted to this nonsense. And f.y.i. Alexa ranks rense.com as having a larger footprint than prisonplanet.com and it is slightly smaller than infowars.com. So, that's alot of people seeing Texe Marrs bad-mouth Jason Bermas. It's time to expose Rense for the freak that he is. And it's time to call out your old buddy Texe Marrs. Publicly!!! Enough you-tube stuff. They're a private entity, and they're entitled to control content. Just as you are. What are you going to do now that your alleged friend is on the attack??

B.T.W. Don't flame me chumps! I've been a loyal listener/subscriber for years. I'm just tired of generic responses to the Reagans, Savages, Becks, etc, but not one distinct response to the "alternative" media attacks. Especially to sources that are not that far away from being at the tip of the electronic spear

Some of the members replies were as follows:

I agree with you... I think a response is necessary at this point.

I would like to see Alex have Jason and Texe discuss this issue. We can have Jason and Texe on Infowarior talk about it.

Haha...Yeah right, Jones should come out and say Boring Bermas was right to say the caller should kill himself...because it's goooood to say things like that. Care to suggest a possible defence for Jones to make?

The original topic at prisonplanet which was deleted is available at google cache: Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Should Hang themselves and also in archive with stats, and all the deleted replies, here at boardreader.com. I have never heard of boardreader.com, but it looks like an interesting and useful site.

SEE ALSO: >Fr. Coughlin: "Not AntiSemitism But AntiCommunism" (1938)

A few months back i saw an article in the Wanderer Catholic Newspaper about Father Coughlin. I had never heard of him, and found out as a result of that article that my late grandpa, who had come to the U.S. from Italy, was a big fan of Fr. Coughlin. So I looked into it and learned more about him, and found some great audio speeches.
All 4 videos HERE

Jewish Rabbi Lies About Henry Ford- Father Coughlin Exposes Liars, "War Mongers, International Bankers," 1938
Father Coughlin: Not Anti Semitism But Anti Communism 1/4

Artisan  posted on  2009-05-16   13:08:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#15. To: Artisan (#9)

Thank you for the ping. A most excellent post and much food for thought.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-05-16 23:18:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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