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Title: Donald Rumsfeld covered Iraq briefing papers with Biblical texts
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Telegraph UK
URL Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor ... apers-with-Biblical-texts.html
Published: May 18, 2009
Author: Alex Spillius
Post Date: 2009-05-18 09:15:37 by bush_is_a_moonie
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Views: 358
Comments: 25
According to a report in GQ magazine the religious texts were imposed over pictures of the US armed forces engaged in the war. Shown to only a small circle of senior advisers, the pages were first used on the eve of the 2003 invasion and were designed to provide support and encouragement to Mr Bush, a Christian who often cited the Bible while in office. Some Pentagon officials feared that if the documents were leaked at the height of the conflict, the use of Christian language to justify the invasion of a Muslim nation would cause a furore in the Islamic world. One official told GQ that the damage done to America's image would have been as bad as that caused by the release of photographs showing the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at the Abu Ghraib jail in Baghdad. On April 1, 2003, as US troops were heading for Iraq, and casualties were beginning to be taken, Mr Rumsfeld's "World Intelligence Update" featured a line from Proverbs 16:3: "Commit to the LORD whatever you do, and your plans will succeed". Beneath was a picture of a machine-gunner on the road from Baghdad to Hilla. Two days before Saddam Hussein was toppled on April 9, 2003, the cover sheet showed a picture of the Iraqi leader and a quotation from 1 Peter 2:15: "It is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men." The Biblical passages were reportedly the idea of Maj Gen Glen Shaffer, a senior military intelligence official, and a Christian, who told colleagues that his "seniors" including the president, were grateful for the cover pages. Mr Rumsfeld is not known for his piety but appears to have been currying favour with his boss, who at first called his "war on terror" a "crusade" but then backed down when the depiction caused consternation in Muslim nations.
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#1. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
The last eight years destroyed the U.S. as a First World country going forward. The GOPers failed to police their own ranks and allowed a dynastic man-child to take office. Thereupon he was manipulated by Cheney and Rumsfeld, his versions of Goering and Goebbels.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Sounds like Old Friend and Rumsfeld have the same God
Words fail me. I'm sitting here trying to figure out a response to this. I"m drawing a blank. ""Commit to the LORD whatever you do, and your plans will succeed"." Using this scripture in the way they do, perhaps I should go rob a bank or murder a senior citizen so I can take her money. Two days before Saddam Hussein was toppled on April 9, 2003, the cover sheet showed a picture of the Iraqi leader and a quotation from 1 Peter 2:15: "It is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men." Good God Almighty. Thanks for posting this. I have no choice but to pass this on. .
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Religious nuttery is everywhere. I can't believe the kookery otherwise normal seeming people spout at my church where I go to monitor these people.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I cant believe it either, and I will not set one foot inside a church, willingly. If you do it, it has to be almost like going into an insane asylum. The last time I went into a church I wanted to tell them to get that fucking US flag out of there! And that was during a wedding. Sometimes I am reduced to just staring into space with a perplexed look on my face when I read some things. This is one of those times. .
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The former is a genoo-wine militant christian from what you read in is posts. But Rummy is a stone cold nazi. I read himm like a book. All nazis are born kiss-ups. There ain't no christian there.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Rummy is in good company the last politician that used biblical scriptures to justify killing was Robert Mugabe
Kill All Unbelievers "And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5) "If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6) "Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:8-9) "Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15) Kill Man, Woman, Infant "Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." (I Samuel 15:2-3) King David's Holocaust "And he brought forth the people that were therein, and put them under saws, and under harrows of iron, and under the axes of iron, and made them pass through the brickkiln: and thus did he unto all the cities of the children of Ammon. So David and all the people returned unto Jerusalem." (II Samuel 12:31) Moses' Mass Murder "Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." (Numbers 31:16-18)
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Those quotes are from the Old Testament and often sited by evangilicals to justify/support of killing (ala John Hagee) however the New Testament is very clear that those covenants died at the foot of the cross
Nice to know that jahweh scrubbed those injuctions. Now I can sleep at night.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. That is s strange thought you had. Since I opposed the war from day numbero uno.
Quit making stuff up. Jesus said he didn't come to change the "law" but to fullfill it. You non christians should refrain from speaking about this stuff. It makes you look really really stupid.
Did you have the courage of your convictions in public or are you just brave when you talk big on the internet?
And Jews are Gods chosen in your religion...right?..
It says that in Gods holy book the Bible doesn't it? Why do you think he chose them? Was it because they were better or was it for them to bring a message to the world or both or something else? Oh never mind you don't have ears to hear and understand.
Cheney and Rumsfeld played Bush like fiddle --- the boy did not have a chance.
Show me where that statement is made in the New Testament....O sorry I forgot you only read the Talmud
Sorry, we all are His children. And yes, the Lord will not break His Covenant but those who do not obey Him can break it and thus nullify it. The Lord repeatedly says this in the O.T. Just one of many: Leviticus 26 13 I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bands of your yoke, and made you go upright. 14 But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments; 15 And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: 16 I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. 17 And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you. 18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. 19 And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass: 20 And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits. 21 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins. 22 I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate. 23 And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things, but will walk contrary unto me; 24 Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins. 25 And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy. 26 And when I have broken the staff of your bread, ten women shall bake your bread in one oven, and they shall deliver you your bread again by weight: and ye shall eat, and not be satisfied. 27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; 28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. 29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. 30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you. 31 And I will make your cities waste, and bring your sanctuaries unto desolation, and I will not smell the savour of your sweet odours. 32 And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it. 33 And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste. 34 Then shall the land enjoy her sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye be in your enemies' land; even then shall the land rest, and enjoy her sabbaths. 35 As long as it lieth desolate it shall rest; because it did not rest in your sabbaths, when ye dwelt upon it. 36 And upon them that are left alive of you I will send a faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies; and the sound of a shaken leaf shall chase them; and they shall flee, as fleeing from a sword; and they shall fall when none pursueth. 37 And they shall fall one upon another, as it were before a sword, when none pursueth: and ye shall have no power to stand before your enemies. 38 And ye shall perish among the heathen, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up. 39 And they that are left of you shall pine away in their iniquity in your enemies' lands; and also in the iniquities of their fathers shall they pine away with them. 40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me; 41 And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity: 42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land. 43 The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised my judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes. 44 And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God. 45 But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the LORD. 46 These are the statutes and judgments and laws, which the LORD made between him and the children of Israel in mount Sinai by the hand of Moses. Romans I 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Galatians 3 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. and 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. God promised to give to Abraham and to his descendants the land of Canaan as an everlasting possession. God’s promise has always been for an everlasting heavenly home with Him. It has been promised to Abraham and his descendants * by faith *. Hebrews 8 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. 8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: 9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: 11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. 13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. God was giving Abraham both the old covenant and the new covenant promises at the same time. The new covenant promise was the true promise. The first - the old - covenant promise was being given to his earthly descendants as the earthly copy.
I agree. Bush was chosen by the party-elite because he is a true sociopath and would be easier to manipulate. Profile of the Sociopath: 1) Glibness and Superficial Charm 2) Manipulative and Conning - they never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims. 3) Pathological Lying - has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests. 4) Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt - a deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way. 5) Shallow Emotions - when they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises. 6) Incapacity for Love 7) Need for Stimulation - living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity, gambling, drug use and alchoholism are common. 8) Callousness/Lack of Empathy - unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them. 9) Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature - rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others. 10) Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency - usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc. 11) Irresponsibility/Unreliability - not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed. 12) Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle - tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively. 13) Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them Authoritarian Secretive Paranoid Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired Conventional appearance Goal of enslavement of their victim(s) Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love) Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim Incapable of real human attachment to another Unable to feel remorse or guilt Extreme narcissism and grandiose May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
Look it up yourself lazy ass.
I have and there is no mention of Jews being Gods chosen....you living a lie
1) Glibness and Superficial Charm 2) Manipulative and Conning - they never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims. 3) Pathological Lying - has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests. 4) Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt - a deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way. 5) Shallow Emotions - when they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises. 6) Incapacity for Love 7) Need for Stimulation - living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity, gambling, drug use and alchoholism are common. 8) Callousness/Lack of Empathy - unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them. 9) Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature - rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others. 10) Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency - usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc. 11) Irresponsibility/Unreliability - not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed. 12) Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle - tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively. 13) Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily. Who does this sound like? Particularly 1-5, 7-9, 11, 13. The rest I dont know about, .
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Christian Grace on display here, OF version of it anyway.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Bush was a cheerleader at Yale. On the ball field he had nothing to due with the game plan. In the White House same thing ---- he was the cheerleader for the evil disastrous Cheney and Rumsfeld game plan.
#2. To: Sam Houston (#1)
#3. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
(Edited)
The Biblical passages were reportedly the idea of Maj Gen Glen Shaffer, a senior military intelligence official, and a Christian, who told colleagues that his "seniors" including the president, were grateful for the cover pages.
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
#4. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
"It is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men."
#5. To: tom007 (#4)
I can't believe the kookery otherwise normal seeming people spout at my church where I go to monitor these people.
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
#6. To: robnoel (#2)
Sounds like Old Friend and Rumsfeld have the same God
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#7. To: randge (#6)
#8. To: robnoel (#7)
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#9. To: randge (#8)
(Edited)
#10. To: robnoel (#9)
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#11. To: robnoel (#2)
Sounds like Old Friend and Rumsfeld have the same God
#12. To: robnoel (#9)
New Testament is very clear that those covenants died at the foot of the cross
#13. To: PSUSA (#5)
I went into a church I wanted to tell them to get that fucking US flag out of there! And that was during a wedding.
#14. To: Old Friend (#12)
#15. To: robnoel (#14)
And Jews are Gods chosen in your religion...right?..
#16. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
On April 1, 2003, as US troops were heading for Iraq, and casualties were beginning to be taken, Mr Rumsfeld's "World Intelligence Update" featured a line from Proverbs 16:3: "Commit to the LORD whatever you do, and your plans will succeed". Beneath was a picture of a machine-gunner on the road from Baghdad to Hilla.
#17. To: Old Friend (#15)
#18. To: Old Friend (#15)
#19. To: your_neighbor (#16)
Cheney and Rumsfeld played Bush like fiddle --- the boy did not have a chance.
#20. To: All (#19)
Should have also included the following
#21. To: robnoel (#17)
#22. To: Old Friend (#21)
#23. To: Artisan (#19)
(Edited)
Profile of the Sociopath:
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
#24. To: Old Friend robnoel (#21)
Look it up yourself lazy ass.
#25. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#19)
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