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Title: Why Intelligent People Tend to be Unhappy
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Published: May 19, 2009
Author: Various
Post Date: 2009-05-19 06:48:44 by Turtle
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Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. - Ernest Hemingway, author and journalist, Nobel laureate (1899-1961) Hemingway, who took his own life in 1961, knew his share of both intelligent people and of unhappiness. He lived through two world wars, the Great Depression, four wives and an unknown number of failed romantic relationships, none of which would help him to develop happiness if he knew how. As Hemingway's quote was based on his life experience, I will base the following speculation on both my personal and my professional experience as a sociologist. Not enough study exists to quote on this subject. Western society is not set up to nurture intelligent children and adults, the way it dotes over athletes and sports figures, especially the outstanding ones. While we have the odd notable personality such as Albert Einstein, we also have many extremely intelligent people working in occupations that are considered among the lowliest, as may be attested by a review of the membership lists of Mensa (the club for the top two percent on intelligence scales). Education systems in countries whose primary interest is in wealth accumulation encourage heroes in movies, war and sports, but not in intellectual development. Super intelligent people manage, but few reach the top of the business or social ladder. Children develop along four streams: intellectual, physical, emotional (psychological) and social. In classrooms, the smartest kids tend to be left out of more activities by other children than they are included in. They are "odd," they are the geeks, they are social outsiders. In other words, they do not develop socially as well as they may develop intellectually or even physically where opportunities may exist for more progress. Their emotional development, characterized by their ability to cope with risky or stressful situations, especially over long periods of time, also lags behind that of the average person. Adults tend to believe that intelligent kids can deal with anything because they are intellectually superior. This inevitably includes situations where the intelligent kids have neither knowledge nor skills to support their experience. They go through the tough times alone. Adults don't understand that they need help and other kids don't want to associate with kids the social leaders say are outsiders. As a result we have many highly intelligent people whose social development progresses much slower than that of most people and they have trouble coping with the stressors of life that present themselves to everyone. It should come as no surprise that the vast majority of prison inmates are socially and emotionally underdeveloped or maldeveloped and a larger than average percentage of them are more intelligent than the norm. Western society provides the ideal incubator for social misfits and those with emotional coping problems. When it comes to happiness, people who are socially inept and who have trouble coping emotionally with the exigencies of life would not be among those you should expect to be happy. This may be changing in the 21st century as the geeks gain recognition as people with great potential, especially as people who might make their fortune in the world of high technology. Geeks may be more socially accepted than in the past, but unless they receive more assistance with their social and emotional development, most are destined to be unhappy as they mature in the world of adults. People with high intelligence, be they children or adults, still rank as social outsiders in most situations, including their skills to be good mates and parents. Moreover, they tend to see more of the tragedy in the communites and countries they live in, and in the world, than the average person whose primary source of news and information is comedy shows on television. Tragedy is easier to find than compassion, even though compassion likely exists in greater proportion in most communities.
Poster Comment: I remember at the age of 12 realizing I was smarter than my parents, all the kids in school, and most of my teachers. Middle school was just hell. Things were made worse by the fact I was an INTJ -- Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging. I daydreamed a lot and was happiest by myself in school. And school, overwhelmingly, was the problem. I got through high school by partying. I did have a blast, I'll say that. But learn anything? Don't make me laugh. I think everyone with an IQ of 120 and above should be scooped up and sent to schools with their own kind.
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#1. To: Turtle (#0)
you believe the official gubmint story on 911. sorry to break it to you,but you ain't that smart. ';-p
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. It's not the government story, it's the story of those who have a brain. The Truthers (sic) are a false flag operation created by the government, to control conspiracists, i.e., the stupid.
The Truthers (sic) are a false flag operation created by the government, to control conspiracists, i.e., the stupid. so you think everyone you post to everyday is a government agent? because i don't know a single poster here besides you who believes the gubmit b.s. can you name anyone?
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. I will tell you what I tell every Truther (sic): I will give you 10,000 years to prove your case, and you will never do it. You cannot prove what did not happen. All conspiracists are the same, but too stupid to realize it. Stupid blacks believe HIV was created by the government to target blacks, but misfired and hit homosexuals, They also believe the governments birth control chemicals in chicken places. Arabs also believe Israel and Jews are behind every one of their problems, no matter now insignificant. People smirk at such nonsense, then turn right down and in all seriousness tell me the goverment remote-controlled four airplanes into the WTC, then set off explosives in the buildings, then blamed it on Arabs, then all the thousands of people involved disappeared, and no one has said a word. No one has been overcome by guilt, or found Jesus, or been on their deathbed, and best of all, not one of them has been afraid someelse is going to kill them to shut them up. There is an old saying, and it's a true one: "Two people can keep a secret is one of them is dead." The idea that thousands of conspirators can keep their mouths shut for the rest of their lives is complete, contemptible nonsense.
The idea that thousands of conspirators can keep their mouths shut for the rest of their lives is complete, contemptible nonsense. Don't use that excuse. Some huge secrets have been kept. Pattons' "1st division" in the UK to keep the germans focused on Calais, the Manhattan project, ENIGMA, etc. .
It's a forum post, not a doctoral thesis. Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
Oh please, uncovering government conspiracies is good, clean entertainment especially for baby boomers who have been told that Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack, that Korea was fought to repel communism, that the Gulf of Tonkin enraged LBJ, and that Arlen Spector nailed shut JFK's assassination with his Warren commission investigation.
I very much doubt that the latter phrase I've bolded is true. For one thing, the more intelligent would be less likely to get caught. I can already predict that you will answer that this is because they are caught up in create reverie while committing crimes, daydreaming of various things.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
I was formulating a long reply to Turtle, but you put it in a nutshell. Entire nations of intelligent people have gone to their graves loyally following patent liars. People nearly as intelligent as Turtle.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. It certainly is. Only an idiot would believe the government and its media.
like the Warren Commission, huh?
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
Seeing how you are a turtle, and your social circle includes frogs, fish, mosquito larva, etc, it is no wonder that your 42 IQ was superior to most in your little pond.
I remember at the age of 12 realizing I was smarter than my parents, all the kids in school, and most of my teachers.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#2. To: Artisan (#1)
you believe the official gubmint story on 911
Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs
...that's Turtle Island.
#3. To: Turtle (#2)
It's not the government story, it's the story of those who have a brain.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#4. To: Artisan (#3)
Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs...that's Turtle Island.
#5. To: Turtle (#4)
There is an old saying, and it's a true one: "Two people can keep a secret is one of them is dead."
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
#6. To: Turtle (#2)
#7. To: Turtle (#0)
It should come as no surprise that the vast majority of prison inmates are socially and emotionally underdeveloped or maldeveloped and a larger than average percentage of them are more intelligent than the norm.
#8. To: Disgusted (#6)
Oh please, uncovering government conspiracies is good, clean entertainment especially for baby boomers who have been told that Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack, that Korea was fought to repel communism, that the Gulf of Tonkin enraged LBJ, and that Arlen Spector nailed shut JFK's assassination with his Warren commission investigation.
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#9. To: Turtle (#2)
It's not the government story
#10. To: Turtle (#2)
#11. To: Turtle (#0)
I remember at the age of 12 realizing I was smarter than my parents, all the kids in school, and most of my teachers.
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
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#12. To: Turtle (#0) (Edited)
Reasons to (not) be cheerful: One part alienation - from having a smaller set among whom to have peer social relationships. One part paranoia - as all of the cult lies (like the official conspiracy theory of 911), promulgated monolithically by the Media Matrix, rapidly wear thin upon the application of any critical thinking, yet the herd shows no inclination to awaken and is trained to dismiss with programmed, non-original derision, marginalize with pre-packaged labels, and finally, to kill the messenger, if the veil of illusion, their shared delusions, threatens to tear open. One part intensity - as an active mind/spirit has more virtual time to kill when in the state prison (pubic school - pun intended) and in all other useless social rituals. One part the nature of having more potential AND being aware of it - the psychic pressure of having more to give, more gifts/talents to share, more drive to deliver some fraction of that potential into the actual, guarantees a life of frustration as the cult's programmed fantasy about the vast avenues of expression meets the reality of the minimal permissable channels for creators/inventors/visionaries. One part the intrinsic dichotomy between the shared illusion we call consensual reality and the greater infinity of the Real, of which the more intelligent see/feel with their eyes being held open like Alex in "A Clockwork Orange". Oh and one part the cognitive dissonance generated by the left-brain dominant, flatland conceptualists who believe that IQ tests actually measure intelligence (as opposed to a few specialized intellectual functions) and strut about preening their egos when they have an IQ point spread over the mean, while the intelligent are keenly aware that there is more, much much more to the nature of the mind and being than is dreamt of by the sleeping dogs lying through their grinning teeth. "Does it make me crazy to think that I am the last sane man on the planet?" (paraphrase from I, Robot)
Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when that card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ashes of the totalitarian game!
#13. To: Artisan, sushigirl, bluegrass, Lady X, Elliott Jackalope, HOUNDDAWG, christine, James Deffenbach, MUDDOG, Prefrontal Vortex, randge, Sam Houston, Disgusted, Horse, (#12) (Edited)
BTTT
Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when that card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ashes of the totalitarian game!
#14. To: HighLairEon (#13)
interesting points, and welcome to 4um if we havent 'spoke' before.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#15. To: HighLairEon (#12)
Yeah yeah, it's all everybody else's fault!
Q: How are Jews like household appliances?
A: Honey! The Jew is on the fritz again.
#16. To: Turtle (#2)
Therefore, since secrecy among many is impossible, this should be easy to verify. Reasonable people can peacefully and respectfully disagree about what conclusions should be drawn from evidence, but differences over what is evidence are irreconcilable, and usually come down to mudslinging, etc. Stupid blacks believe HIV was created by the government to target blacks, but misfired and hit homosexuals, They also believe the governments birth control chemicals in chicken places. Reason has its reasons, which reason knoweth not; whether an idea is true and whether an idea is adaptive are different questions. Reason is just a tool for adaptation, and error-free thinking is not always good thinking. Most of the time it's actually bad as it is not robust to ignorance of the things one is ignorant about. Error-free thinking is just like a software neural network overtrained on known data. But I agree with you to the extent that I think '911 truth' is simply unimportant.
The Truthers (sic) are a false flag operation created by the government, to control conspiracists,
Q: How are Jews like household appliances?
A: Honey! The Jew is on the fritz again.
#17. To: Prefrontal Vortex, Turtle (#16)
The real 9/11 truth is in how the American media and military/intelligence industrial complexes responded. Even if rogue Saudi Arabs had attacked us, we took the wrong course of action. A superpower that can be provoked to make errors as easily as this is vulnerable to many, many other inexpensive and easily mounted attacks.
#18. To: Deasy (#17)
Well said.
Q: How are Jews like household appliances?
A: Honey! The Jew is on the fritz again.
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