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Title: How to deal with Cindy Sheehan - FReeper-style
Source: RimJobs cesspool
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1461234/posts
Published: Aug 11, 2005
Author: svcw - a typical FReeper
Post Date: 2005-08-11 11:00:33 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: FReeper-style, Sheehan, Cindy
Views: 2108
Comments: 236

To: roylene

It would make me feel better if you would punch her. This woman is a lunatic.

31 posted on 08/11/2005 7:45:30 AM PDT by svcw [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies ]

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A member of the cult voices his sympathy to a grieving mother.

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#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Hey Jethro, do you think Sarah Brady should be allowed to confiscate all our firearms simply because some whacknut shot her hubby in the head?

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-11   11:18:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Cute Willie....defend this nutbar FReeper with an absurd argument. This has nothing to do with Sarah Brady, and everything to do with the invasion and *attemped* occupation/nation building, of a foreign land.

Shall we nuke Mecca now, or later?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   11:25:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Cute Willie....defend this nutbar FReeper with an absurd argument. This has nothing to do with Sarah Brady,

It's a legitimate analogy, Jethro.

Just like Sarah Brady, Cindy Sheehan is exploiting the tragic personal sacrifice of a family member to make an emotional statement on the national political stage.

So why do you sympathize with one and not the other?
Or do you actually sympathize with both and support both of their personal, political agendas?

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-11   11:43:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It's a legitimate analogy, Jethro.

Just like Sarah Brady, Cindy Sheehan is exploiting the tragic personal sacrifice of a family member to make an emotional statement on the national political stage.

Not quite the same Willie, sorry.

While Brady attempts to alter our constitution via the removal of our Second amendment, Sheehan looks to support the document by exposing an unjust, illegal, and unconstitutional foreign policy/war.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   11:51:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

While Brady attempts to alter our constitution via the removal of our Second amendment, Sheehan looks to support the document by exposing an unjust, illegal, and unconstitutional foreign policy/war.

Well said.

robin  posted on  2005-08-11   11:54:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks. As someone said above, the Brady analogy is a strawman.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   11:56:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

As someone said above, the Brady analogy is a strawman.

No Jethro, as I stated before, it is a valid analogy.
And it may be a surprise to many here that I applaud the Constitutional distinction that you made. Kudos!
However, I doubt that Sheehan is actually motivated by concern for adherence to Constitutional processes.
She's simply pissed because she lost her son.
Issues of government policy or constitutionality don't mean squat to her.
All she wants to do is vent.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-11   13:45:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

However, I doubt that Sheehan is actually motivated by concern for adherence to Constitutional processes

She has countless reasons to demonstrate, beyond the illegality of the war Willie. I also mentioned the nation building scheme Bush is engaged in. You and I were both posting on the FR during Somalia and Bosnia....it was then a united forum against Herr Klinton. What is galling now is the current hypocrisy of the R’s over at that cesspool. You have to admit this country is in awful shape, and a large reason why is the blind allegiance some hold to the two party system. The pom-pom waving FReepers are no different that the socialist D‘s who wore kneepads for Bill.

Iraq is Bosnia is Somalia.

The only difference being the political party of the current (very unpopular) CIC.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   14:02:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the blind allegiance some hold to the two party system

This Willie Green lunatic still buys into the "two party" paradigm?

He truly is a moron.

Unlike a lot of sheep he is here on the web exposed to the truth of what is really going on and he still holds tenuously to "my party good, your party bad" BS.

I would not waste any more time on this dunce, except for just pure entertainment or shits and giggles.

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-08-11   14:53:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This Willie Green lunatic still buys into the "two party" paradigm?

Yes he does, but I have hope for him.

Anyone who gets the trade issue as right as Willie, isn't completely lost.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   18:13:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Hey, I haven't voted for a Republicrat candidate for POTUS since '88 when I was backstabbed by Papa Bush.
Since then, I've voted for Perot (twice), Buchanan and Peroutka.
So don't go slandering me with that "two party paradigm" bullcrap just because I refuse to align myself with the left-wing anti-war marxist dingbats.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-11   18:40:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

just because I refuse to align myself with the left-wing anti-war marxist dingbats.

Glad to hear you dumped the R's.....now.....it's time to dump the left and right nonsense.

It’s all about right and wrong.

You won't find a Marxist here Willie, no Little red books, or pictures of Che Guevara. We're a small remnant of nationalists (yes, that's a good word), protectionists and isolationists, but I speak for myself. Internationalism be damned.

Now, on to your non comment on Bush's desire to build a 'new' Middle East.' If that isn’t nation building, what is? And if the search for non existent WMD’s morphing into the creation of a democracy isn’t mission creep, the phrase doesn’t exist. Iraq isn't our damn business, and any kid who is stupid enough to fight in this military, for this government, gets what h/she deserves. I’m personally not grieving over Cindy Sheehan’s loss, rather I’m cheering her fight. Cold words for sure, but her boy was a corporate Hessian in my eyes. We’re witnessing the biggest movement toward empire since the Brits - and history (and free trade) has reduced them to nothing more than America's poodle.

Stick around Willie if you have an open mind. We all learn every day. It's those who remain frozen in cold war dogma who are truly lost.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   18:59:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Iraq isn't our damn business,

That's water over the dam, Jethro.
If we were debating whether Papa Bush should help boot Saddam out of Kuwait, I'd probably agree with you.
Let the stinking OPECKers deal with it themselves.
But that's NOT what happened, so the issue becomes what do we do since we ARE involved?
As far as I'm concerned, if Papa Bush got us involved, he shoulda finished Saddam back in Gulf I.
And Klinton should have obliterated Sadddam for violating the no-fly zone.
And Dubya shoulda dropped a grenade down Saddam's "spider hole" instead of capturing the SOB and pi$$ing away more taxpayer dollars on a "trial".
And I don't give a rat's patoot whether or not there were any WMDs.

But none of that happened either.
So we're stuck with "nation building".
I don't like it, but at this point, it is the "right" thing to do.
(as opposed to letting the country collapse into anarchy and civil war.)

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-11   22:59:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So we're stuck with "nation building".

Believe it or not Willie, with this statement you’re making Sheehan’s point. To compound a mistake with a steady stream of military caskets, isn’t being stuck; it’s being insane. Where but in politics can such a strategy be practiced without penalty? If private business were ‘stuck’ with a CEO who plodded ahead with a failed plan, that company would be short lived. But in the alternate universe called government, foreign policy is inflexible. How very odd not one bureaucrat was fired after the intelligence debacle of 9-11? How sickening it is to watch the neocons sell us CAFTA after claiming NAFTA is a success. And isn’t it deadly to wage war 6,000 miles away, when our own back door is permitted to be left open by a president who claims he can look into peoples hearts? Iraq was a precooked war, Willie. My proof is the PNAC paper trail. They rushed to get boots on the ground in order to illicit the very response you offer; “ …but now that we’re there.” The fact is the Muslim world doesn’t want us there, nor does a growing number of Americans who either wised up, or saw this scheme from the beginning. We here aren’t kooks, commies or cowards. We simply advocate a return to a sane foreign policy that puts America first. Our day is coming.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-12   8:32:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

To compound a mistake with a steady stream of military caskets, isn’t being stuck; it’s being insane.

Jethro, if Cindy Sheehan had been George Armstrong Custer's mother, she'd be whining about the "insanity" of our westward expansion; and our flag would only have 37 stars.

IMHO, you need to get some testosterone injections.
You're beginning to sound like some kind of pussy-whipped metrosexual.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-12   9:58:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ethro, if Cindy Sheehan had been George Armstrong Custer's mother, she'd be whining about the "insanity" of our westward expansion; and our flag would only have 37 stars.

Well done willie green. If Custer is your hero, you need to read The great Crow nation's chief autobiography, "Chief Plenty Coup", he knew Custer and Custer was, like you, an arrogent fool, and your analogy also foolish. The western US in the late nineteenth century really does not have much in common with Iraq today, funny you did not notice that, Willie Green!

And you suggesting America make Iraq a fifty first state? Because "They hate us because were free"?

Don't tell me you fell for that one, Willie Green!

Do you the US army is in Iraq to spread democracy, kind like Custer did in Montana??

Really what sort of point we're you trying to make here, Willie Green?

tom007  posted on  2005-08-12   10:46:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Really what sort of point we're you trying to make here, Willie Green?

That Cindy Sheehan is a sniveling bimbo who doesn't understand that you sometimes have to choose sides in the war between Good and Evil, even though it's supposedly "none of your business".

Saddam was an evil dictator.
I have no problem with the actions that removed him from power (other than they took way too many years to pursue in a "civilized" manner.)
Papa Bush shoulda just nuked him in Desert Storm.
Everybody would've been safely back home in time for Super Bowl XXV a week later.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-12   11:24:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Saddam was an evil dictator.
...
Papa Bush shoulda just nuked him in Desert Storm.

Let's see, you were concerned about Saddam being a dictator, that would mean you felt sorry for the people living under his rule, yet you have no problem "nuking" them. Do you ever stop to think before you post this moronic gibberish?

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-12   11:30:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Let's see, you were concerned about Saddam being a dictator, that would mean you felt sorry for the people living under his rule, yet you have no problem "nuking" them. Do you ever stop to think before you post this moronic gibberish?

A most excellent point, Dak!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-12   14:01:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Let's see, you were concerned about Saddam being a dictator, that would mean you felt sorry for the people living under his rule,

Not at all.
It means that I'm more concerned about watching football than I am about what happens to the Iraqi people.
Yet Saddam disturbed my peaceful enjoyment of this Great American pasttime, by invading the helpless Kuwaitis. And I was forced to choose between the lesser of two evils: Saddam or Papa Bush. Well, unlike Saddam, Papa Bush never appeared before a joint session of Congress, pointing fingers at his "enemies" so his henchmen could drag them outside for execution.

So it was a clear choice: Papa Bush was not as evil as Saddam. So nuke the SOB, and let's get back to watching football.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-12   16:10:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It means that I'm more concerned about watching football than I am about what happens to the Iraqi people. Yet Saddam disturbed my peaceful enjoyment of this Great American pasttime, by invading the helpless Kuwaitis.

So you care about Kuwaitis, but not Iraqis? You're not making any sense, unless you really mean you are concerned with the price of oil, which, getting back to your original assertion that we should "Nuke Bagdad", makes for quite a disjointed train of thought.

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-12   16:27:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So you care about Kuwaitis, but not Iraqis?

Nope. That's merely where Saddam stepped out of bounds and forced me to pick sides in a mismatch. He coulda kept fighting a stalemate against the Iranians, and I wouldn't have cared what he did. But the Kuwaitis were harmless, proving that Saddam was an evil jackass who had to be removed.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-12   16:48:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Nope. That's merely where Saddam stepped out of bounds and forced me to pick sides in a mismatch. He coulda kept fighting a stalemate against the Iranians, and I wouldn't have cared what he did. But the Kuwaitis were harmless, proving that Saddam was an evil jackass who had to be removed.

Hmmm, kind of like a superpower invading a country that had no WMD, was not harboring terrorists, and was no threat to said superpower?

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-12   16:51:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Hmmm, kind of like a superpower invading a country that had no WMD, was not harboring terrorists, and was no threat to said superpower?

And maybe invading to steal the oil. Remember Kuwait had a lot of oil .... just like Iraq.

And when discussing this topic, never forget that our person in Baghdad, April Glaspie, gave Saddam implied permission to go into Kuawait.

avian virus  posted on  2005-08-12   19:22:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#185. To: avian virus, Dakmar, Lady X (#183)

So tell me. Why does Willie cringe when Saddam invades Kuwait, but claps when Bush invades Iraq? His globocop mindset is so FReepy. These internationalist dogs simply can't keep their noses out of other nations affairs.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-12 19:30:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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