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Title: How to deal with Cindy Sheehan - FReeper-style
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URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1461234/posts
Published: Aug 11, 2005
Author: svcw - a typical FReeper
Post Date: 2005-08-11 11:00:33 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: FReeper-style, Sheehan, Cindy
Views: 2128
Comments: 236
To: roylene It would make me feel better if you would punch her. This woman is a lunatic. 31 posted on 08/11/2005 7:45:30 AM PDT by svcw [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies ]
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#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Hey Jethro, do you think Sarah Brady should be allowed to confiscate all our firearms simply because some whacknut shot her hubby in the head?
Cute Willie....defend this nutbar FReeper with an absurd argument. This has nothing to do with Sarah Brady, and everything to do with the invasion and *attemped* occupation/nation building, of a foreign land. Shall we nuke Mecca now, or later?
It's a legitimate analogy, Jethro. Just like Sarah Brady, Cindy Sheehan is exploiting the tragic personal sacrifice of a family member to make an emotional statement on the national political stage. So why do you sympathize with one and not the other?
Just like Sarah Brady, Cindy Sheehan is exploiting the tragic personal sacrifice of a family member to make an emotional statement on the national political stage. Not quite the same Willie, sorry. While Brady attempts to alter our constitution via the removal of our Second amendment, Sheehan looks to support the document by exposing an unjust, illegal, and unconstitutional foreign policy/war.
Well said.
Thanks. As someone said above, the Brady analogy is a strawman.
No Jethro, as I stated before, it is a valid analogy.
She has countless reasons to demonstrate, beyond the illegality of the war Willie. I also mentioned the nation building scheme Bush is engaged in. You and I were both posting on the FR during Somalia and Bosnia....it was then a united forum against Herr Klinton. What is galling now is the current hypocrisy of the R’s over at that cesspool. You have to admit this country is in awful shape, and a large reason why is the blind allegiance some hold to the two party system. The pom-pom waving FReepers are no different that the socialist D‘s who wore kneepads for Bill. Iraq is Bosnia is Somalia. The only difference being the political party of the current (very unpopular) CIC.
This Willie Green lunatic still buys into the "two party" paradigm? He truly is a moron. Unlike a lot of sheep he is here on the web exposed to the truth of what is really going on and he still holds tenuously to "my party good, your party bad" BS. I would not waste any more time on this dunce, except for just pure entertainment or shits and giggles.
Yes he does, but I have hope for him. Anyone who gets the trade issue as right as Willie, isn't completely lost.
Hey, I haven't voted for a Republicrat candidate for POTUS since '88 when I was backstabbed by Papa Bush.
Glad to hear you dumped the R's.....now.....it's time to dump the left and right nonsense. It’s all about right and wrong. You won't find a Marxist here Willie, no Little red books, or pictures of Che Guevara. We're a small remnant of nationalists (yes, that's a good word), protectionists and isolationists, but I speak for myself. Internationalism be damned. Now, on to your non comment on Bush's desire to build a 'new' Middle East.' If that isn’t nation building, what is? And if the search for non existent WMD’s morphing into the creation of a democracy isn’t mission creep, the phrase doesn’t exist. Iraq isn't our damn business, and any kid who is stupid enough to fight in this military, for this government, gets what h/she deserves. I’m personally not grieving over Cindy Sheehan’s loss, rather I’m cheering her fight. Cold words for sure, but her boy was a corporate Hessian in my eyes. We’re witnessing the biggest movement toward empire since the Brits - and history (and free trade) has reduced them to nothing more than America's poodle. Stick around Willie if you have an open mind. We all learn every day. It's those who remain frozen in cold war dogma who are truly lost.
That's water over the dam, Jethro. But none of that happened either.
Believe it or not Willie, with this statement you’re making Sheehan’s point. To compound a mistake with a steady stream of military caskets, isn’t being stuck; it’s being insane. Where but in politics can such a strategy be practiced without penalty? If private business were ‘stuck’ with a CEO who plodded ahead with a failed plan, that company would be short lived. But in the alternate universe called government, foreign policy is inflexible. How very odd not one bureaucrat was fired after the intelligence debacle of 9-11? How sickening it is to watch the neocons sell us CAFTA after claiming NAFTA is a success. And isn’t it deadly to wage war 6,000 miles away, when our own back door is permitted to be left open by a president who claims he can look into peoples hearts? Iraq was a precooked war, Willie. My proof is the PNAC paper trail. They rushed to get boots on the ground in order to illicit the very response you offer; “ …but now that we’re there.” The fact is the Muslim world doesn’t want us there, nor does a growing number of Americans who either wised up, or saw this scheme from the beginning. We here aren’t kooks, commies or cowards. We simply advocate a return to a sane foreign policy that puts America first. Our day is coming.
Jethro, if Cindy Sheehan had been George Armstrong Custer's mother, she'd be whining about the "insanity" of our westward expansion; and our flag would only have 37 stars. IMHO, you need to get some testosterone injections.
Well done willie green. If Custer is your hero, you need to read The great Crow nation's chief autobiography, "Chief Plenty Coup", he knew Custer and Custer was, like you, an arrogent fool, and your analogy also foolish. The western US in the late nineteenth century really does not have much in common with Iraq today, funny you did not notice that, Willie Green! And you suggesting America make Iraq a fifty first state? Because "They hate us because were free"? Don't tell me you fell for that one, Willie Green! Do you the US army is in Iraq to spread democracy, kind like Custer did in Montana?? Really what sort of point we're you trying to make here, Willie Green?
That Cindy Sheehan is a sniveling bimbo who doesn't understand that you sometimes have to choose sides in the war between Good and Evil, even though it's supposedly "none of your business". Saddam was an evil dictator.
Let's see, you were concerned about Saddam being a dictator, that would mean you felt sorry for the people living under his rule, yet you have no problem "nuking" them. Do you ever stop to think before you post this moronic gibberish?
A most excellent point, Dak!
Not at all. So it was a clear choice: Papa Bush was not as evil as Saddam. So nuke the SOB, and let's get back to watching football.
So you care about Kuwaitis, but not Iraqis? You're not making any sense, unless you really mean you are concerned with the price of oil, which, getting back to your original assertion that we should "Nuke Bagdad", makes for quite a disjointed train of thought.
Nope. That's merely where Saddam stepped out of bounds and forced me to pick sides in a mismatch. He coulda kept fighting a stalemate against the Iranians, and I wouldn't have cared what he did. But the Kuwaitis were harmless, proving that Saddam was an evil jackass who had to be removed.
Hmmm, kind of like a superpower invading a country that had no WMD, was not harboring terrorists, and was no threat to said superpower?
And maybe invading to steal the oil. Remember Kuwait had a lot of oil .... just like Iraq. And when discussing this topic, never forget that our person in Baghdad, April Glaspie, gave Saddam implied permission to go into Kuawait.
So tell me. Why does Willie cringe when Saddam invades Kuwait, but claps when Bush invades Iraq? His globocop mindset is so FReepy. These internationalist dogs simply can't keep their noses out of other nations affairs.
Yo Willie....did you go?????????? Today, I tried to switch my Party affiliation - by Willie Green Politics/Elections Opinion Keywords: REFORM PARTY Source: Willie Green Published: 10/26/99 Author: Willie Green Posted on 10/26/1999 11:03:20 PDT by Willie Green The 26th Amendment, lowering the voting age to 18, had a profound influence on my political views. It was ratified July 1, 1971, just a few weeks prior to my 19th birthday. At the time, by federal mandate, I carried my Selective Service Registration card (1-H) in my wallet. "The Lottery" was scheduled for August 5, 1971, just a couple weeks after my 19th birthday. I was adamant that if I was required to carry a Selective Service card, I should be entitled to carry a Voter Registration card. I was ecstatic that the Government agreed with me to the point of including it in the Constitution! I registered as a Republican. It was an act that I took seriously. I pledged to myself to stay well-informed and vote in all elections and ballot issues for which I was eligible: local, county, state, national; primaries and general elections. Having relocated to 5 different states over the years, it hasn't always been easy or convenient to honor that self-pledge, but I have. Today, I tried to switch my Party affiliation. The county courthouse is just a 15 minute drive from my home. The county clerk's office seemed the best place to make the change -- I wanted verification that it would not mess up my registration for the upcoming November 2 local election. "No problem, sir," the county clerk informed me. "The law was changed back in '96. Michigan no longer registers by party affiliation." "What?" said I, digging into my wallet for my current voter registration card. (Sure enough, no party affiliation noted on it!) "Does this mean I can belong to whatever party I want to without having to fill out any forms?" "That's right, sir." "Cool!" Now I had been aware that, in Michigan, we are allowed to "cross-over" our votes in the primaries. But I wasn't aware that, for all intents and purposes, the state essentially considers me to be unaffiliated. It seems "too" easy. So to make it "official" in my mind, I am publicly anouncing, here on FreeRepublic, that after 28 years I am leaving the Republican Party. Similar to Bob Smith earlier this year, and more recently Pat Buchanan, I have to admit that the GOP establishment no longer represents my views adequately. Now this does not mean that I will not support individual GOP candidates as my conscience dictates. However, the issues are the same as those that originally compelled me to vote for Ross Perot -- the only time I have not voted GOP for national offices. I see no reason to support the GOP when the GOP does not represent me on these issues. I guess the only other thing I need to do to make this "official" is to register with the Reform Party here.
My Lucky Lotto number was 151.
Is that why you're now so focused on sending other people's kids to the Iraqi meat grinder? You're trying to compensate?
Perhaps. Anyway, when I see the same group of leftwing dope-smokin' anti-war draft-dodging hippie types whining about Iraq 30~35 years later, there is STILL absolutely no way in hell that I'm going to align myself with their subversive agenda. It doesn't matter to me how much I dislike G. Dubya Bush on a shitload of other issues.
I see, you've decided to align yourself with alcoholic, dry-drunk, pill-popping, cowardly, draft-dodging, homosexual, pederasts instead. Good choice.
I suspect Willie actually works for Christine. When the forum starts to get quiet he pops up and says something amazingly hateful and ignorant. The whole forum then has fun beating on him for an hour or so.
Fuck off. Willie's from FR. He's consistant. He's a fucking grump, but he's a consistant grump.
I didn't say he wasn't consistent. I just said he popped up periodically to say something incredibly dumb and hateful. I noted that this seemed to stir up the forum for an hour or so. I can't say if he really works for Christine or not.
#233. To: avian virus (#229)
Nice Screen Name, btw. Regards.
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#8. To: Willie Green (#4)
#11. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
Cute Willie....defend this nutbar FReeper with an absurd argument. This has nothing to do with Sarah Brady,
Or do you actually sympathize with both and support both of their personal, political agendas?
#14. To: Willie Green (#11)
It's a legitimate analogy, Jethro.
#16. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
While Brady attempts to alter our constitution via the removal of our Second amendment, Sheehan looks to support the document by exposing an unjust, illegal, and unconstitutional foreign policy/war.
#17. To: robin (#16)
#30. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
As someone said above, the Brady analogy is a strawman.
And it may be a surprise to many here that I applaud the Constitutional distinction that you made. Kudos!
However, I doubt that Sheehan is actually motivated by concern for adherence to Constitutional processes.
She's simply pissed because she lost her son.
Issues of government policy or constitutionality don't mean squat to her.
All she wants to do is vent.
#31. To: Willie Green (#30)
However, I doubt that Sheehan is actually motivated by concern for adherence to Constitutional processes
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#31)
the blind allegiance some hold to the two party system
#37. To: timetobuildaboat, Willie Green (#35)
This Willie Green lunatic still buys into the "two party" paradigm?
#38. To: Jethro Tull (#37)
Since then, I've voted for Perot (twice), Buchanan and Peroutka.
So don't go slandering me with that "two party paradigm" bullcrap just because I refuse to align myself with the left-wing anti-war marxist dingbats.
#40. To: Willie Green (#38)
just because I refuse to align myself with the left-wing anti-war marxist dingbats.
#49. To: Jethro Tull (#40)
Iraq isn't our damn business,
If we were debating whether Papa Bush should help boot Saddam out of Kuwait, I'd probably agree with you.
Let the stinking OPECKers deal with it themselves.
But that's NOT what happened, so the issue becomes what do we do since we ARE involved?
As far as I'm concerned, if Papa Bush got us involved, he shoulda finished Saddam back in Gulf I.
And Klinton should have obliterated Sadddam for violating the no-fly zone.
And Dubya shoulda dropped a grenade down Saddam's "spider hole" instead of capturing the SOB and pi$$ing away more taxpayer dollars on a "trial".
And I don't give a rat's patoot whether or not there were any WMDs.
So we're stuck with "nation building".
I don't like it, but at this point, it is the "right" thing to do.
(as opposed to letting the country collapse into anarchy and civil war.)
#85. To: Willie Green (#49)
So we're stuck with "nation building".
#89. To: Jethro Tull (#85)
To compound a mistake with a steady stream of military caskets, isn’t being stuck; it’s being insane.
You're beginning to sound like some kind of pussy-whipped metrosexual.
#94. To: Willie Green (#89)
ethro, if Cindy Sheehan had been George Armstrong Custer's mother, she'd be whining about the "insanity" of our westward expansion; and our flag would only have 37 stars.
#99. To: tom007 (#94)
Really what sort of point we're you trying to make here, Willie Green?
I have no problem with the actions that removed him from power (other than they took way too many years to pursue in a "civilized" manner.)
Papa Bush shoulda just nuked him in Desert Storm.
Everybody would've been safely back home in time for Super Bowl XXV a week later.
#102. To: Willie Green (#99)
Saddam was an evil dictator.
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Papa Bush shoulda just nuked him in Desert Storm.
#122. To: Dakmar (#102)
Let's see, you were concerned about Saddam being a dictator, that would mean you felt sorry for the people living under his rule, yet you have no problem "nuking" them. Do you ever stop to think before you post this moronic gibberish?
#130. To: Jethro Tull, Dakmar (#122)
Let's see, you were concerned about Saddam being a dictator, that would mean you felt sorry for the people living under his rule,
It means that I'm more concerned about watching football than I am about what happens to the Iraqi people.
Yet Saddam disturbed my peaceful enjoyment of this Great American pasttime, by invading the helpless Kuwaitis. And I was forced to choose between the lesser of two evils: Saddam or Papa Bush. Well, unlike Saddam, Papa Bush never appeared before a joint session of Congress, pointing fingers at his "enemies" so his henchmen could drag them outside for execution.
#139. To: Willie Green (#130)
It means that I'm more concerned about watching football than I am about what happens to the Iraqi people. Yet Saddam disturbed my peaceful enjoyment of this Great American pasttime, by invading the helpless Kuwaitis.
#154. To: Dakmar (#139)
So you care about Kuwaitis, but not Iraqis?
#156. To: Willie Green (#154)
Nope. That's merely where Saddam stepped out of bounds and forced me to pick sides in a mismatch. He coulda kept fighting a stalemate against the Iranians, and I wouldn't have cared what he did. But the Kuwaitis were harmless, proving that Saddam was an evil jackass who had to be removed.
#183. To: Dakmar (#156)
Hmmm, kind of like a superpower invading a country that had no WMD, was not harboring terrorists, and was no threat to said superpower?
#185. To: avian virus, Dakmar, Lady X (#183)
#187. To: Jethro Tull (#185)
So tell me. Why does Willie cringe when Saddam invades Kuwait, but claps when Bush invades Iraq?
#193. To: avian virus, Dakmar, Willie Green (#187)
I notice warrior Willie was of draft age during Viet Nam. He states he was classified 1-H in 1971.
#209. To: Jethro Tull (#193)
Yo Willie....did you go??????????
The lottery drawing held August 5, 1971, determined the order in which men born in 1952 were called to report for induction into the military.....
The highest lottery number called for this group was 95; all men assigned that lottery number or any lower number, and who were classified 1-A or 1-A-O (available for military service), were called to report for possible induction.
At the time, it was uncertain whether or not this was a "safe" number.
In the '69 Lotto, they took everybody up to 195,
in '70, the highest number was 125.
So the draft was winding down, but nobody could say that it wouldn't flare back up. Vietnam wasn't over.
So I was essentially in "limbo" for a year, checking my daily mail for a notification that never came.
No, I did not go.
#210. To: Willie Green (#209)
No, I did not go.
#211. To: avian virus (#210)
Is that why you're now so focused on sending other people's kids to the Iraqi meat grinder? You're trying to compensate?
Back then, I didn't hang out with the leftwing dope-smokin' anti-war draft-dodging hippie types.
Many of my college friends were actually vets who had already served.
In fact, one of my roommates had been an MP in Pleiku.
#222. To: Willie Green (#211)
Anyway, when I see the same group of leftwing dope-smokin' anti-war draft-dodging hippie types whining about Iraq 30~35 years later, there is STILL absolutely no way in hell that I'm going to align myself with their subversive agenda.
#223. To: Esso (#222)
#226. To: avian virus (#223)
I suspect Willie actually works for Christine.
#229. To: Jhoffa_ (#226)
Willie's from FR. He's consistant.
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