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Title: How to deal with Cindy Sheehan - FReeper-style
Source: RimJobs cesspool
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1461234/posts
Published: Aug 11, 2005
Author: svcw - a typical FReeper
Post Date: 2005-08-11 11:00:33 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: FReeper-style, Sheehan, Cindy
Views: 1841
Comments: 236

To: roylene

It would make me feel better if you would punch her. This woman is a lunatic.

31 posted on 08/11/2005 7:45:30 AM PDT by svcw [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies ]


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#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Hey Jethro, do you think Sarah Brady should be allowed to confiscate all our firearms simply because some whacknut shot her hubby in the head?

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-11   11:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Willie Green (#4)

hey, willie, why don't you get your warmongering gungho ass over to iraq and fight this war? or better yet, you got your kid over there?

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-11   11:20:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#5)

OW! That's gonna leave a mark.

If a man has nothing that he is willing to die for, then he has nothing worth living for.

Esso  posted on  2005-08-11   11:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Willie Green (#4)

when you gonna take your cheerleading dress off and go fight for your freedom?

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-11   11:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Willie Green (#4)

Cute Willie....defend this nutbar FReeper with an absurd argument. This has nothing to do with Sarah Brady, and everything to do with the invasion and *attemped* occupation/nation building, of a foreign land.

Shall we nuke Mecca now, or later?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   11:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Willie Green (#4)

Hey Jethro, do you think Sarah Brady should be allowed to confiscate all our firearms simply because some whacknut shot her hubby in the head?

Hey Willie, you think I should go get some corn chips because you are an idiot?

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-11   11:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Willie Green (#4)

Hey Jethro, do you think Sarah Brady should be allowed to confiscate all our firearms simply because some whacknut shot her hubby in the head?

They are now taking regular recruits up to age 42 and special skills up to age 60. Basically, a special skill is anything that a 60 year old would have done over his liftime other than dig ditches.

The door is wide open for you to join the Iraqi war effort.

Bush and the neo-cons desperately need you.

If the effort is important as you say, important enough to send other people's kids to die for it, then it is important enough for you to go yourself.

Put down the beer, pull your hand off your nuts, turn off the computer and walk the walk. Right now you're just bullshitting the talk.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-11   11:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Cute Willie....defend this nutbar FReeper with an absurd argument. This has nothing to do with Sarah Brady,

It's a legitimate analogy, Jethro.

Just like Sarah Brady, Cindy Sheehan is exploiting the tragic personal sacrifice of a family member to make an emotional statement on the national political stage.

So why do you sympathize with one and not the other?
Or do you actually sympathize with both and support both of their personal, political agendas?

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-11   11:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Willie Green (#11)

strawman.

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-11   11:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Willie Green (#11)

Cindy Sheehan is exploiting the tragic personal sacrifice of a family member to make an emotional statement on the national political stage.

Honestly, isn't that her business.

Don't politicians dance on the graves of the dead for their own benefit?

If she chooses to showcase her son's death in this cockup, well, that's free expression. It's what we went to bring to the Iraqis.

Appreciate the courage that it took for her to speak about knowing the kind of vile accusations that would be made about her.

How is her behavior different from the mother of that chick who disappeared in Aruba? Or the father of Polly Klass. Involved concerned citizens engaging in debate on the issues of the day.

swarthyguy  posted on  2005-08-11   11:48:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Willie Green (#11)

It's a legitimate analogy, Jethro.

Just like Sarah Brady, Cindy Sheehan is exploiting the tragic personal sacrifice of a family member to make an emotional statement on the national political stage.

Not quite the same Willie, sorry.

While Brady attempts to alter our constitution via the removal of our Second amendment, Sheehan looks to support the document by exposing an unjust, illegal, and unconstitutional foreign policy/war.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   11:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: swarthyguy (#13)

If she chooses to showcase her son's death in this cockup, well, that's free expression. It's what we went to bring to the Iraqis.

zzzzing...

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-11   11:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

While Brady attempts to alter our constitution via the removal of our Second amendment, Sheehan looks to support the document by exposing an unjust, illegal, and unconstitutional foreign policy/war.

Well said.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-11   11:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robin (#16)

Thanks. As someone said above, the Brady analogy is a strawman.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   11:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Willie Green (#11)

Just like Sarah Brady, Cindy Sheehan is exploiting the tragic personal sacrifice of a family member to make an emotional statement on the national political stage.

No her son died for the cause in Iraq.

She is now taking it upon herself to do something about this. This is a courages act that subjects her to vicious attacks from people like you, Hannity, Michael Savage and the average Freeper. Recall the post WhiteSands made yesterday: "If she had taken better care of her son he wouldn't be dead now".

You, on the other hand, hide behind your monitor, in a cowardly manner, and take cheap shots at these brave people - primarily to avoid having to admit that you were wrong about Rumsfeld's cakewalk and Bush's WMD. It's either kill some of the neighbors kids or admit you made a mistake.

You yourself are too much of a coward to get involved personally - even though you could join up now very easily.

If you support the war and you are not in uniform, then you are a hypocrite.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-08-11   12:07:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Willie Green (#11)

How is she exploiting her son's death? How will this benefit Cindy Sheehan? Certainly not by being in the public eye for the Freepers and other such slimes have done nothing but try to destroy her.

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-11   12:15:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: crack monkey (#18)

"If she had taken better care of her son he wouldn't be dead now".

So I thought WS and the other slimes said that being in the military was so noble? So what is it? Serving in the military is because they are being noble or they're all losers, products of bad parenting?

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-11   12:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

While Brady attempts to alter our constitution via the removal of our Second amendment, Sheehan looks to support the document by exposing an unjust, illegal, and unconstitutional foreign policy/war.

He shoots, he SCORES! GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL!

Seriously, well put. Good job.

Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2005-08-11   12:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#17)

amazing these ball-less wonders on the internet calling for someone else to punch a woman. i guarantee you they'd not say boo to cindy to her face. reminds me of a certain CP coward, here in austin, who claimed he would spit in our faces if he ever met us in person, then rather than doing just that, he hid behind bushes taking secret pics of us to post on their site. he really got us! lmao.

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-11   12:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Elliott Jackalope (#21)

Thanks, EJ.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   12:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: christine (#22)

amazing these ball-less wonders on the internet calling for someone else to punch a woman. i guarantee you they'd not say boo to cindy to her face. reminds me of a certain CP coward, here in austin, who claimed he would spit in our faces if he ever met us in person,

The ass hid behind bushes, rather than confront little, 'ol you?

Clowns....an appropriate name.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   12:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: crack monkey (#18)

Recall the post WhiteSands made yesterday: "If she had taken better care of her son he wouldn't be dead now".

beyond despicable..just what is the rationale for this outrageous comment?

You yourself are too much of a coward to get involved personally - even though you could join up now very easily.

If you support the war and you are not in uniform, then you are a hypocrite.

checkmate.

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-11   12:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: christine (#22)

yeah the armchair brigade really are couragous sitting behind a monitor or hiding in the bushes LOL!!

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-11   12:24:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#24)

yep, a supposedly 6'7" 200+ lb wimp man. i'm 5'3" 112 lbs. ;)

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-11   12:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#22)

someone else to punch a woman.

Brings to mind my favorite OxyBoy story.

Back when he had his TV show, in 1994/5, he put up a picture of Socks, the WH cat, then he followed it up with a snapshot of Chelse, calling the White House Dog.

Now, I don't know about you, but the sheer putridness of an allegely grown man making fun of a 16 year teenager was really sleazy.

swarthyguy  posted on  2005-08-11   12:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: swarthyguy (#28)

i remember that.

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-11   12:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#17)

As someone said above, the Brady analogy is a strawman.

No Jethro, as I stated before, it is a valid analogy.
And it may be a surprise to many here that I applaud the Constitutional distinction that you made. Kudos!
However, I doubt that Sheehan is actually motivated by concern for adherence to Constitutional processes.
She's simply pissed because she lost her son.
Issues of government policy or constitutionality don't mean squat to her.
All she wants to do is vent.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-11   13:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Willie Green (#30)

However, I doubt that Sheehan is actually motivated by concern for adherence to Constitutional processes

She has countless reasons to demonstrate, beyond the illegality of the war Willie. I also mentioned the nation building scheme Bush is engaged in. You and I were both posting on the FR during Somalia and Bosnia....it was then a united forum against Herr Klinton. What is galling now is the current hypocrisy of the R’s over at that cesspool. You have to admit this country is in awful shape, and a large reason why is the blind allegiance some hold to the two party system. The pom-pom waving FReepers are no different that the socialist D‘s who wore kneepads for Bill.

Iraq is Bosnia is Somalia.

The only difference being the political party of the current (very unpopular) CIC.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   14:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Willie Green (#30)

She's simply pissed because she lost her son.

Don't you think it's harder to lose a son in a war you don't believe in, especially after it's become evident that the war was based on lies?

aristeides  posted on  2005-08-11   14:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#27)

i'm 5'3" 112 lbs. ;)

:) :) :) :)

Are we but an organic computer influenced by our environment to desire one set of neuropeptides over another, equating into competition for self worth on a primitive level never seen by the shallow and self empowering.

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-08-11   14:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Willie Green (#30)

She told the audience of veterans from World War Two to today's war in Iraq, that the two main things she plans to tell the man she holds responsible for son Casey's death are "Quit saying that U.S. troops died for a noble cause in Iraq, unless you say, 'well, except for Casey Sheehan.' Don't you dare spill any more blood in Casey's name. You do not have permission to use my son's name."

"And the other thing I want him to tell me is 'just what was the noble cause Casey died for?' Was it freedom and democracy? Bullshit! He died for oil. He died to make your friends richer. He died to expand American imperialism in the Middle East. We're not freer here, thanks to your PATRIOT Act. Iraq is not free. You get America out of Iraq and Israel out of Palestine and you'll stop the terrorism," she exclaimed.

"There, I used the 'I' word -- imperialism," the 48 year-old mother quipped. "And now I'm going to use another 'I' word -- impeachment -- because we cannot have these people pardoned. They need to be tried on war crimes and go to jail."

As the veterans in Dallas rose to their feet, Sheehan said defiantly, "My son was killed in 2004. I am not paying my taxes for 2004. You killed my son, George Bush, and I don't owe you a penny...you give my son back and I'll pay my taxes. Come after me (for back taxes) and we'll put this war on trial."

(Willie Green)However, I doubt that Sheehan is actually motivated by concern for adherence to Constitutional processes.
She's simply pissed because she lost her son. Issues of government policy or constitutionality don't mean squat to her.

Read more of what Cindy has to say at http://www.meetwithcindy.org.

"WE ARE INSULTED when people like Bush say that America has to 'stay the course' in Iraq to 'honor our children's sacrifices.' Not one more drop of blood should be shed for the lies and deceptions." - Cindy Sheehan, mother of Casey Sheehan, KIA 04/04/04

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-11   14:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

the blind allegiance some hold to the two party system

This Willie Green lunatic still buys into the "two party" paradigm?

He truly is a moron.

Unlike a lot of sheep he is here on the web exposed to the truth of what is really going on and he still holds tenuously to "my party good, your party bad" BS.

I would not waste any more time on this dunce, except for just pure entertainment or shits and giggles.

Are we but an organic computer influenced by our environment to desire one set of neuropeptides over another, equating into competition for self worth on a primitive level never seen by the shallow and self empowering.

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-08-11   14:53:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: timetobuildaboat (#35)

You obviously have no frigging idea WTF you're talking about, so go build your boat.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-11   15:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: timetobuildaboat, Willie Green (#35)

This Willie Green lunatic still buys into the "two party" paradigm?

Yes he does, but I have hope for him.

Anyone who gets the trade issue as right as Willie, isn't completely lost.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   18:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

Hey, I haven't voted for a Republicrat candidate for POTUS since '88 when I was backstabbed by Papa Bush.
Since then, I've voted for Perot (twice), Buchanan and Peroutka.
So don't go slandering me with that "two party paradigm" bullcrap just because I refuse to align myself with the left-wing anti-war marxist dingbats.

Willie Green  posted on  2005-08-11   18:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Willie Green (#38)

left-wing anti-war marxist dingbats.

Hate to give you a ticket on the clue bus but Marxist dingbats are the ones that are promoting the war.

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-11   18:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Willie Green (#38)

just because I refuse to align myself with the left-wing anti-war marxist dingbats.

Glad to hear you dumped the R's.....now.....it's time to dump the left and right nonsense.

It’s all about right and wrong.

You won't find a Marxist here Willie, no Little red books, or pictures of Che Guevara. We're a small remnant of nationalists (yes, that's a good word), protectionists and isolationists, but I speak for myself. Internationalism be damned.

Now, on to your non comment on Bush's desire to build a 'new' Middle East.' If that isn’t nation building, what is? And if the search for non existent WMD’s morphing into the creation of a democracy isn’t mission creep, the phrase doesn’t exist. Iraq isn't our damn business, and any kid who is stupid enough to fight in this military, for this government, gets what h/she deserves. I’m personally not grieving over Cindy Sheehan’s loss, rather I’m cheering her fight. Cold words for sure, but her boy was a corporate Hessian in my eyes. We’re witnessing the biggest movement toward empire since the Brits - and history (and free trade) has reduced them to nothing more than America's poodle.

Stick around Willie if you have an open mind. We all learn every day. It's those who remain frozen in cold war dogma who are truly lost.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-08-11   18:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine (#5)

hey, willie, why don't you get your warmongering gungho ass over to iraq and fight this war? or better yet, you got your kid over there?

You mean you don't know Freepers and other war supporters are cowards? That they only support war when others fight? It makes them feel like men, like they've got some balls, however tiny.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2005-08-11   19:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

This is from the same kind of people who celebrated and made fun of Rachel Corrie being killed by an Israeli goon. They are a cancer within our society.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-11   19:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Jethro Tull (#40)

and he's scored again! you are on your game today, baby! ;)

"American Woman"

christine  posted on  2005-08-11   19:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Willie Green (#11)

Just like Sarah Brady, Cindy Sheehan is exploiting the tragic personal sacrifice of a family member to make an emotional statement on the national political stage.

No, she is mad as hell her son died for a damn lie, got it?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-11   19:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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