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Title: How to deal with Cindy Sheehan - FReeper-style
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URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1461234/posts
Published: Aug 11, 2005
Author: svcw - a typical FReeper
Post Date: 2005-08-11 11:00:33 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: FReeper-style, Sheehan, Cindy
Views: 1775
Comments: 236
To: roylene It would make me feel better if you would punch her. This woman is a lunatic. 31 posted on 08/11/2005 7:45:30 AM PDT by svcw [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies ]
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#17. To: robin (#16)
Thanks. As someone said above, the Brady analogy is a strawman.
No her son died for the cause in Iraq. She is now taking it upon herself to do something about this. This is a courages act that subjects her to vicious attacks from people like you, Hannity, Michael Savage and the average Freeper. Recall the post WhiteSands made yesterday: "If she had taken better care of her son he wouldn't be dead now". You, on the other hand, hide behind your monitor, in a cowardly manner, and take cheap shots at these brave people - primarily to avoid having to admit that you were wrong about Rumsfeld's cakewalk and Bush's WMD. It's either kill some of the neighbors kids or admit you made a mistake. You yourself are too much of a coward to get involved personally - even though you could join up now very easily. If you support the war and you are not in uniform, then you are a hypocrite.
How is she exploiting her son's death? How will this benefit Cindy Sheehan? Certainly not by being in the public eye for the Freepers and other such slimes have done nothing but try to destroy her.
So I thought WS and the other slimes said that being
in the military was so noble? So what is it? Serving in the military is because
they are being noble or they're all losers, products of bad parenting?
He shoots, he SCORES! GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL! Seriously, well put. Good job.
#18. To: Willie Green (#11)
Just like Sarah Brady, Cindy Sheehan is exploiting the tragic personal sacrifice of a family member to make an emotional statement on the national political stage.
#19. To: Willie Green (#11)
#20. To: crack monkey (#18)
"If she had taken better care of her son he wouldn't be dead
now".
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
While Brady attempts to alter our constitution via the removal of our Second amendment, Sheehan looks to support the document by exposing an unjust, illegal, and unconstitutional foreign policy/war.
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#22. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
amazing these ball-less wonders on the internet calling for someone else to punch a woman. i guarantee you they'd not say boo to cindy to her face. reminds me of a certain CP coward, here in austin, who claimed he would spit in our faces if he ever met us in person, then rather than doing just that, he hid behind bushes taking secret pics of us to post on their site. he really got us! lmao.
#23. To: Elliott Jackalope (#21)
Thanks, EJ.
#24. To: christine (#22)
The ass hid behind bushes, rather than confront little, 'ol you? Clowns....an appropriate name.
amazing these ball-less wonders on the internet calling for someone else to punch a woman. i guarantee you they'd not say boo to cindy to her face. reminds me of a certain CP coward, here in austin, who claimed he would spit in our faces if he ever met us in person,
#25. To: crack monkey (#18)
beyond despicable..just what is the rationale for this outrageous comment? You yourself are too much of a coward to get involved personally - even though you could join up now very easily. If you support the war and you are not in uniform, then you are a hypocrite. checkmate.
Recall the post WhiteSands made yesterday: "If she had taken better care of her son he wouldn't be dead now".
#26. To: christine (#22)
yeah the armchair brigade really are couragous sitting behind a monitor or hiding in the bushes LOL!!
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
yep, a supposedly 6'7" 200+ lb wimp man. i'm 5'3" 112 lbs. ;)
#28. To: christine (#22)
Brings to mind my favorite OxyBoy story. Back when he had his TV show, in 1994/5, he put up a picture of Socks, the WH cat, then he followed it up with a snapshot of Chelse, calling the White House Dog. Now, I don't know about you, but the sheer putridness of an allegely grown man making fun of a 16 year teenager was really sleazy.
someone else to punch a woman.
#29. To: swarthyguy (#28)
i remember that.
#30. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
No Jethro, as I stated before, it is a valid analogy.As someone said above, the Brady analogy is a strawman.
And it may be a surprise to many here that I applaud the Constitutional distinction that you made. Kudos!
However, I doubt that Sheehan is actually motivated by concern for adherence to Constitutional processes.
She's simply pissed because she lost her son.
Issues of government policy or constitutionality don't mean squat to her.
All she wants to do is vent.
#31. To: Willie Green (#30)
She has countless reasons to demonstrate, beyond the illegality of the war Willie. I also mentioned the nation building scheme Bush is engaged in. You and I were both posting on the FR during Somalia and Bosnia....it was then a united forum against Herr Klinton. What is galling now is the current hypocrisy of the R’s over at that cesspool. You have to admit this country is in awful shape, and a large reason why is the blind allegiance some hold to the two party system. The pom-pom waving FReepers are no different that the socialist D‘s who wore kneepads for Bill. Iraq is Bosnia is Somalia. The only difference being the political party of the current (very unpopular) CIC.
However, I doubt that Sheehan is actually motivated by concern for adherence to Constitutional processes
#32. To: Willie Green (#30)
Don't you think it's harder to lose a son in a war you don't believe in, especially after it's become evident that the war was based on lies?
She's simply pissed because she lost her son.
#33. To: christine (#27)
:) :) :) :)
i'm 5'3" 112 lbs. ;)
Are we but an organic computer influenced by our environment to desire one set of neuropeptides over another, equating into competition for self worth on a primitive level never seen by the shallow and self empowering.
#34. To: Willie Green (#30)
"And the other thing I want him to tell me is 'just what was the noble cause Casey died for?' Was it freedom and democracy? Bullshit! He died for oil. He died to make your friends richer. He died to expand American imperialism in the Middle East. We're not freer here, thanks to your PATRIOT Act. Iraq is not free. You get America out of Iraq and Israel out of Palestine and you'll stop the terrorism," she exclaimed. "There, I used the 'I' word -- imperialism," the 48 year-old mother quipped. "And now I'm going to use another 'I' word -- impeachment -- because we cannot have these people pardoned. They need to be tried on war crimes and go to jail." As the veterans in Dallas rose to their feet, Sheehan said defiantly, "My son was killed in 2004. I am not paying my taxes for 2004. You killed my son, George Bush, and I don't owe you a penny...you give my son back and I'll pay my taxes. Come after me (for back taxes) and we'll put this war on trial." (Willie Green)However, I doubt that Sheehan is actually motivated by concern for adherence to Constitutional processes. Read more of what Cindy has to say at http://www.meetwithcindy.org. "WE ARE INSULTED when people like Bush say that America has to 'stay the course' in Iraq to 'honor our children's sacrifices.' Not one more drop of blood should be shed for the lies and deceptions." - Cindy Sheehan, mother of Casey Sheehan, KIA 04/04/04
She told the audience of veterans from World War Two to today's war in Iraq, that the two main things she plans to tell the man she holds responsible for son Casey's death are "Quit saying that U.S. troops died for a noble cause in Iraq, unless you say, 'well, except for Casey Sheehan.' Don't you dare spill any more blood in Casey's name. You do not have permission to use my son's name."
She's simply pissed because she lost her son. Issues of government policy or constitutionality don't mean squat to her.
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#31)
This Willie Green lunatic still buys into the "two party" paradigm? He truly is a moron. Unlike a lot of sheep he is here on the web exposed to the truth of what is really going on and he still holds tenuously to "my party good, your party bad" BS. I would not waste any more time on this dunce, except for just pure entertainment or shits and giggles.
the blind allegiance some hold to the two party system
Are we but an organic computer influenced by our environment to desire one set of neuropeptides over another, equating into competition for self worth on a primitive level never seen by the shallow and self empowering.
#36. To: timetobuildaboat (#35)
You obviously have no frigging idea WTF you're talking about, so go build your boat.
#37. To: timetobuildaboat, Willie Green (#35)
Yes he does, but I have hope for him. Anyone who gets the trade issue as right as Willie, isn't completely lost.
This Willie Green lunatic still buys into the "two party" paradigm?
#38. To: Jethro Tull (#37)
Hey, I haven't voted for a Republicrat candidate for POTUS since '88 when I was backstabbed by Papa Bush.
Since then, I've voted for Perot (twice), Buchanan and Peroutka.
So don't go slandering me with that "two party paradigm" bullcrap just because I refuse to align myself with the left-wing anti-war marxist dingbats.
#39. To: Willie Green (#38)
Hate to give you a ticket on the clue bus but Marxist dingbats are the ones that are promoting the war.
left-wing anti-war marxist dingbats.
#40. To: Willie Green (#38)
Glad to hear you dumped the R's.....now.....it's time to dump the left and right nonsense. It’s all about right and wrong. You won't find a Marxist here Willie, no Little red books, or pictures of Che Guevara. We're a small remnant of nationalists (yes, that's a good word), protectionists and isolationists, but I speak for myself. Internationalism be damned. Now, on to your non comment on Bush's desire to build a 'new' Middle East.' If that isn’t nation building, what is? And if the search for non existent WMD’s morphing into the creation of a democracy isn’t mission creep, the phrase doesn’t exist. Iraq isn't our damn business, and any kid who is stupid enough to fight in this military, for this government, gets what h/she deserves. I’m personally not grieving over Cindy Sheehan’s loss, rather I’m cheering her fight. Cold words for sure, but her boy was a corporate Hessian in my eyes. We’re witnessing the biggest movement toward empire since the Brits - and history (and free trade) has reduced them to nothing more than America's poodle. Stick around Willie if you have an open mind. We all learn every day. It's those who remain frozen in cold war dogma who are truly lost.
just because I refuse to align myself with the left-wing anti-war marxist dingbats.
#41. To: christine (#5)
You mean you don't know Freepers and other war supporters are cowards? That they only support war when others fight? It makes them feel like men, like they've got some balls, however tiny.
hey, willie, why don't you get your warmongering gungho ass over to iraq and fight this war? or better yet, you got your kid over there?
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
This is from the same kind of people who celebrated and made fun of Rachel Corrie being killed by an Israeli goon. They are a cancer within our society.
God is always good!
#43. To: Jethro Tull (#40)
and he's scored again! you are on your game today, baby! ;)
#44. To: Willie Green (#11)
No, she is mad as hell her son died for a damn lie, got it?
Just like Sarah Brady, Cindy Sheehan is exploiting the tragic personal sacrifice of a family member to make an emotional statement on the national political stage.
God is always good!
#45. To: RickyJ (#44)
I agree. Sheehan's son has been dead a very short time and anyone who accuses her of exploiting his death is pretty fricken sick IMO.
No, she is mad as hell her son died for a damn lie, got it?
#46. To: crack monkey (#18)
Holy cow, someone actually said some bullshit like that? Like it's Sheehan's fault that the Center for Army Lessons Learned and the Urban Warfare Journal have been screaming for at least six years (and it probably goes back at least a decade) that urban warfare training needed to be a priority for the army, and their pleas were unanswered? Like it's her fault that "Help is on the way" for the military, and nothing changed from the Clinton era? I haven't followed the Cindy Sheehan threads, but had to respond when I read the quoted line. I haven't had that much beer tonight but my mind still can't work its way around the reasoning that parenting caused a soldier's death.
She is now taking it upon herself to do something about this. This is a courages act that subjects her to vicious attacks from people like you, Hannity, Michael Savage and the average Freeper. Recall the post WhiteSands made yesterday: "If she had taken better care of her son he wouldn't be dead now".
"Rivers of blood were spilled out over land that, in normal times, not ever the poorest Arab would have worried his head over"--Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
#47. To: christine (#43)
I wish :)
and he's scored again!
#48. To: historian1944 (#46)
outrageous, isn't it?
I haven't had that much beer tonight but my mind still can't work its way around the reasoning that parenting caused a soldier's death.
#49. To: Jethro Tull (#40)
That's water over the dam, Jethro. But none of that happened either.Iraq isn't our damn business,
If we were debating whether Papa Bush should help boot Saddam out of Kuwait, I'd probably agree with you.
Let the stinking OPECKers deal with it themselves.
But that's NOT what happened, so the issue becomes what do we do since we ARE involved?
As far as I'm concerned, if Papa Bush got us involved, he shoulda finished Saddam back in Gulf I.
And Klinton should have obliterated Sadddam for violating the no-fly zone.
And Dubya shoulda dropped a grenade down Saddam's "spider hole" instead of capturing the SOB and pi$$ing away more taxpayer dollars on a "trial".
And I don't give a rat's patoot whether or not there were any WMDs.
So we're stuck with "nation building".
I don't like it, but at this point, it is the "right" thing to do.
(as opposed to letting the country collapse into anarchy and civil war.)
#50. To: Willie Green (#49)
Why? We had NO business getting involved in that either esp when Saddam was given the go ahead to attack Kuwait and he was told we had no interest in that conflict. So then we attack? What horseshit.
As far as I'm concerned, if Papa Bush got us involved, he shoulda finished Saddam back in Gulf I.
#51. To: Willie Green (#38)
you got it way before i did then.
Hey, I haven't voted for a Republicrat candidate for POTUS since '88
#52. To: Willie Green (#49)
The right thing to do? You think we are building a nation in Iraq? You are living in fantasy land!
So we're stuck with "nation building". I don't like it, but at this point, it is the "right" thing to do.
God is always good!
#53. To: Willie Green (#49)
First, get the fools who forced us into this mess out of office. They have aptly demonstrated that they cannot competently handle the situation. Look at the quotes from Bush's dad on why he did not knock off Saddam after the first Gulf War. Both Bush Sr. and Powell predicted the quagmire that we now face.
But that's NOT what happened, so the issue becomes what do we do since we ARE involved?
#54. To: Willie Green (#49)
Also, what makes you think thats not exactly what's happened? And WHY is any of this our business? We are the invaders period. They dont want us there, they never did. It's all a fraud we've done enough damage there now its in a total friggen mess and IMO a civil war is exactly what was planned from the beginning. The big solution is going to be dividing Iraq into three sections. SO much for taking democracy to Iraq. And thats another fraud I thought democracy was the will of the people.. if that is what Bush and his cohorts want to spread then give them democracy its their will that the US leaves.
I don't like it, but at this point, it is the "right" thing to do. (as opposed to letting the country collapse into anarchy and civil war.)
#55. To: Willie Green (#49)
Lt Odom blows your hypothesis out of the water here. You never, never, never chase good money after bad. The prudent thing to do is to cut your losses. But the elites don't care about the human losses. It's all about their power and their profit as is the case with EVERY war.
#56. To: Zipporah (#50)
Before Saddam attacked Kuwait, he called in our Ambassador April Glaspie and asked her what the Americans thought of the plan. Iraq did have a claim to the region, but Saddam wanted to bounce it off the Americans before going in. When Saddam asked: "Can we go into Kuwait?" Glaspie responded "The US doesn't interfere in Arab affairs.".
We had NO business getting involved in that either esp when Saddam was given the go ahead to attack Kuwait and he was told we had no interest in that conflict.
#57. To: christine (#55)
It's Ret. General Odom.
Lt Odom
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