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Title: Jehovah's Witnesses - Is It Truth?
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Published: May 21, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-05-21 22:39:14 by Ncturnal
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This site contains many pages discussing Watchtower doctrine, changed teachings and failed date predictions. For those without the time or patience to wade through it all, here is a brief thought to dwell on: "For over 130 years, the Watchtower has stated that "the end" is just a few years away. Was that the truth?" Whilst fear-inducing warnings about the imminence of Armageddon may be motivational, the light of history allows reality to shine. Consider the following Watchtower statements that for a certainty the end would come in 1914, in 1925, within the twentieth century; and that these predictions were from Jehovah himself. "We have no doubt whatever in regard to the chronology relating to the dates of 1874, 1914, 1918, and 1925." Watch Tower 1922 May 15 p.150 "... this chronology is not of man, but of God.... the addition of more proofs removes it entirely from the realm of chance into that of proven certainty.... the chronology of present truth [is]... not of human origin." Watch Tower 1922 July 1 p.217 1914 "But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226 "True, it is expecting great things to claim, as we do, that within the coming twenty-six years all present governments will be overthrown and dissolved …. In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished at the end of A. D. 1914…." Studies In the Scriptures Series II - The Time Is At Hand (1889) pp.99, 101 1920 "And every island fled away. - Even the republics will disappear in the fall of 1920. And the mountains were not found. - Every kingdom of earth will pass away, be swallowed up in anarchy… The three days in which Pharaoh's host pursued the Israelites into the wilderness represent the three years from 1917 to 1920 at which time all of Pharaoh's messengers will be swallowed up in the sea of anarchy." Studies In the Scriptures Series VII - The Finished Mystery p.258 1925 "That period of time beginning 1575 before A.D. 1 of necessity would end in the fall of the year 1925, at which time the type ends and the great antitype must begin. What, then, should we expect to take place? … The chief thing to be restored is the human race to life; and since other Scriptures definitely fix the fact that there will be a resurrection of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other faithful ones of old, and that these will have the first favour, we may expect 1925 to witness the return of these faithful men of Israel from the condition of death, being resurrected and fully restored to perfect humanity and made the visible, legal representatives of the new order of things on earth." Millions Now Living Will Never Die p.88 "The year 1926 would therefore begin about October first, 1925…. We should, therefore, expect shortly after 1925 to see the awakening of Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Melchisedec, Job, Moses, Samuel, David, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, John the Baptist, and others mentioned in the eleventh chapter of Hebrews." The Way to Paradise (1924) p.224 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith then Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge." Watch Tower 1923 Apr. 1 p.106 Only a Few Years Left "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon." Watchtower 1941 September 15 p.288 CLICK HERE for scan "The fact that fifty-four years of the period called the "last days" have already gone by is highly significant. It means that only a few years, at most, remain before the corrupt system of things dominating the earth is destroyed by God." Awake! 1968 Oct 8 p.13 CLICK HERE for scan "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the "last days" in 1914, Jesus foretold: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur." Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 CLICK HERE for scan Prior to the turn of the Century "And if the wicked system of this world survived until the turn of the century, which is highly improbable in view of world trends and the fulfillment of Bible prophecy, there would still be survivors of the World War I generation." Watchtower 1980 October 15 p.31 "Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom." The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah p.216 CLICK HERE for scan "Some of that "generation" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that!" Watchtower 1984 March 1 pp.18-19 What affect have these blatantly false predictions had on the lives and decisions of followers? "Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end." Kingdom Ministry May 1974 p.3 "Today there is a great crowd of people who are confident that a destruction of even greater magnitude is now imminent. The evidence is that Jesus' prophecy will shortly have a major fulfilment, upon this entire system of things. This has been a major factor in influencing many couples to decide not to have children at this time." Awake! 1974 Nov. 8 p.11 Since its inception in the 1800's, the main theme of the Watchtower Society is that Armageddon would soon arrive, and its followers would never grow old or die. The Watchtower attempts to dismiss these false statements as "relatively minor" (rs p.146), "enthusiasm" (w79 p.29) and "incomplete" light (jv p.146). Do not let clear thinking be swamped by these clever semantics. Watchtower predictions, forcibly presented as the "established truth" and "of God", are not examples of light that got clearer over time, they are the fanciful falsehoods of human imaginations. They are not timely reminders to worship God but specific statements that manipulate the actions of members. They never were truth, they were lies promoted in the name of God.
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#1. To: Ncturnal (#0)
Nothing new here. Even Jesus screwed up on that one.
You got to have a screw lose to follow a religion started by an Illumunati member at the same time a fellow Illumanti member started the Moron religion. Both are meant to decieve pepople and lead them away from the truth. Islam, Judaism, Buddahism and Hinduism, all meant to decive people of the simple truth of the one and only God and his love for us written in the New Testament.
God is always good!
Wrong. Jesus never said in just a few years the world would end. Nothing new here, anti-Christs lie constantly about the Lord Jesus Christ.
God is always good!
the one I was the closest to from their world was so ashamed of the stigma behind their name that she didn't even tell me she was a JW till our 2nd year of marriage *LOL* ~ needless to say, I got a crash course rather quickly after they discovered she had married a non JW. They don't like that shit at all. No "church" appreciates that. Bringing things up like this will only end up getting you the boot. Who are you to question someone that went to seminary and has college degrees??? LOL! It takes years of study and hard work to twist scriptures into something unrecognizable so they can have their precious doctrines and traditions. ,
It's a forum post, not a doctoral thesis. Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
He sure as hell did. Mark 9 1 And he said to them, "Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power." 24 "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, 25 and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 And then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then he will send out the angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven. The Lesson of the Fig Tree 28 "From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. 29 So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that he is near, at the very gates. 30 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. It seems pretty straightforward to me, or about as straightforward as anything ever is in the Bible.
I was answering that awhile ago, and my computer got too hot and shut down. 31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. heaven and earth to the Jews was the temple.....it passed away. 30 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. to Peter: 21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? 22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. 23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? I am of the partial preterist viewpoint that most of the book of Revelation and Matthew 24, and the scripture you quoted already happened. I also believe the Zionists are trying to recreate the situation, which is all part of what I believe to be the parenthetical time period we are in now: Rev. 20:7-10. Jesus said He was coming "quickly", the time was at hand. bible.cc/revelation/1-3.htm I'm hurrying because I want to post something else. Please see this great site [with videos] that helps to explain it all: www.forerunner.com/beast/beastfaq.html =============================== 16) Why did Charles Taze Russell, founder of Jehovahs Witnesses, use this symbol ? Zion's watchtower This is not "Christianity's Watchtower" or "Jesus' Watchtower," but "Zions' Watchtower" -- whose headqueaters are now operating out of New York ... the "Empire State." The Empire State ?? Empire !! Whose Empire ? more at link: http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/questions/questions4.html Note the fecundating cross and crown in each one. Posting this before I lose it....there's more.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Left Behind & LaHaye's Masonic Connections.... Two other groups (both with Masonic connections) use the cross and crown. ... watch.pair.com/lahaye.html The following is an EXCERPT: by James Whisler [jamesers99@the-onramp.net] " I have written in the past about the significance of the Left Behind movie's production date and release dates running simultaneously with the top four Satanic holidays. I have since then calculated the odds of this happening by chance. ...... Is this another coincidence below? The picture on the left is the cover of the recent book (1999) by Tim LaHaye called The Power of the Cross. The one on the right is a centuries old Masonic symbol and can be seen on an official site of the Knights Templar at www.korrnet.org/f&am/kt.htm Some might mistake it for a Christian symbol, but Masonic author Ray Denslow reveals its true meaning: "The Cross and Crown may be said to be confined almost exclusively to the historical degrees in Masonry as exemplified in the various orders of knighthood of York and Scottish rites. In Gaul we find the cross to have been a solar symbol when it had equal arms and angles; to the Phoenicians it was an instrument of sacrifice to their God, Baal; and to the Egyptians, the crux ansata was his symbol of eternal life." (Ray V. Denslow, Masonic Portraits, Transactions of ths Missouri Lodge of Research, vol. #29, p.7---emphasis in the original) Masonic authority Albert Pike also wrote of the meaning of the above symbol in his book Morals and Dogma, explaining that it has a sexual connotation to it as well. (Why is this symbol on a 'Christian' book cover). Was it also a coincidence that LaHaye and his associates set up their Pretrib Research Center in a place that's considered a vortex of occultic power in Washington D.C. They were located on L'Enfant Promenade, a street named after the Mason Pierre Charles L'Enfant who designed the city in Masonic and Occultic symbols. ( www.cuttingedge.org/n1040.html ) From there, coincidently, they moved their research center to the Dallas area, another city that is sacred to freemasonry because of its proximity to the 33rd degree of latitude. Christians aren't supposed to believe in coincidences......." This is the same cross that appears on the Watchtower. [They have it in the Baptist church I dropped out of too.] still more dots....
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Here's a very similar cross and crown on this British-Israel site. THE ROYAL HOUSE OF BRITAIN http://www.asis.com/users/stag/royalty.html America is still a British Colony and the British plan to put one of their bloodline on the throne of David for a thousand years [the one Jesus is already sitting on]. That's why they promote the "end times" according to Revelation, the "rapture", and "the millennium". The truth is there is no rapture, and we have been IN the millennium. www.bible.ca/pre-rev20-satan-bound.htm one more.....
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
EXCERPT from a most interesting page on SYMBOLS [first in a series]: "....Below we can see that within the "keyhole" of the Vatican courtyard is yet another symbol: two crosses superimposed on each other. This is the symbol from which the British Union Jack flag is derived. This is where we get the term "double-crossers."....." www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/questions/index.html I had not seen this one before.... Let's see the Roman Catholic Church is a Jewish creation, Freemasonry is a Jewish creation......let me post this while I gather my thoughts for a few.... and while I re-think what Ken Gentry said about there not being a double prophecy for the book of Revelation, because this sure sounds like three frogs to me: Judaism, Freemasonry, and the Vatican. http://bible.cc/revelation/16-13.htm ...not to mention George Washington was in cahoots with King George to enslave us, and Washington was related to the monarchy, a Freemason, and a secret papist.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Jordan Maxwell: You are owned by British Royalty www.killermovies.com/foru...the-british-royality.html queen of england owns your body as stock? www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread299689/pg1 sheesh....I've come to the conclusion in the past week or two that the Baptist church was founded as a British Israel church....I have figured for a while that JW was a crypto-Jewish cult...I've known about the Vatican....it sounds like they're ALL British Israel "churches"....just like Cornwallis told George Washington.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
British Israel "British Israel Uses Christian Fundamentalist Evangelicals to Promote the "Kingdom of God on Earth' Scheme to Deliver Up A One World Society-Both Feudal and Fascist" http://www.redicecreations.com/s.../08aug/britishisrael.html The Greatest Hoax / The Union Jack / EPILOGUE "....The following article is very revealing in that it shows how far back the plot to take America with the Kingdom Message has been organized. It is certain that Senator Joseph McCarthy did much research on the Communist conspiracy. He came too close when he discovered British Israel and its Kingdom Message propaganda. The following quotes are from an article with the title: GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER: "And many of the people of the land became Jews." Esther 9:17. "The confession of General Cornwallis to General Washington at Yorktown has been well hidden by historians. History books and text books have taught for years that when Cornwallis surrendered his army to General Washington that American independence came, and we lived happily ever after until the tribulations of the twentieth century." "Jonathan Williams recorded in his LEGIONS OF SATAN, 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that "a holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown." Cornwallis went on to explain what would seem to be a self contradiction: "Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry." And indeed George Washington himself was a Mason, and he gave back through a false religion what he had won with his army. "Cornwallis well knew that his military defeat was only the beginning of world catastrophe that would be universal and that unrest would continue until mind control could be accomplished through a false religion. What he predicted has come to pass. A brief sketch of American religious history and we have seen Masonry infused into every church in America With their veiled Phallic religion. "Darby and the Plymouth Brethren brought a Jewish Christianity to America. Masons Rutherford and Russell started Jehovah Witnesses' Judaism which is now worldwide with their message of the divine kingdom. Mason Joseph Smith started Mormon Judaism with its Jewish teaching of millennialism. "At the turn of the twentieth century there appeared the Scofield Bible with a Jewish interpretation of the prophecies. With wide use of this "helpful" aid all the American churches have silently become synagogues. We now have Baptist Jews, Methodist Jews, Church of God Jews, apostate Catholic Jews, and many Protestant Jews throughout America. We are aliens in our own country because of false religion. All are praying for divine deliverance into that "Divine Government" which Cornwallis knew to be the British Empire. "A false religion has been used to deceive us into allegiance to our enemies of Yorktown and Bunker Hill. No! Not a gun has been fired but the invisible and malignant process of conquering America with the Jew's religion has gone on unabated. The Union Jack has been planted in our hearts with religious deception. All has happened "legally," "constitutionally," "freely" and completely within our most sacred trust -- our churches. Religious deception is painless innoculation against truth. It cannot be removed from the conscience with surgery, yet it is the motivator of our actions and directly controls our lives. Once man gives over to false religion, he is no longer rational because he originates no thought. His life is controlled by whomever controls his religion. "The veil of false religion is the sword of Damocles and its power to control humanity defies even the imagination of tyrants who use it." "This is not to say that George Washington was a traitor willingly, or knowingly. He was beguiled into a Satanic religious order that insidiously controls men's minds. So have American statesmen and military leaders down through the years given aid and allegiance to the enemies of the United States because they did not have knowledge of the invisible subterfuge that stalks this land. My eyes were opened the day my colleague from Ohio handed me Wagner's FREEMASONRY AN INTERPRETATION. If every American would read it, they would no longer ask why and how it has happened." Given by Senator Joseph McCarthy, six months before his mouth was closed forever. End of quote from GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER. We have a final note for optimism. We sincerely believe that America can and will survive if her people are willing to come face to face with the propagandists who are trying to beguile us into World Government with a misuse of Bible prophecy. It is time to touch the untouchables and shake their ivory towers of constitutionally protected religion and lay open for all to see what is being done to us in the name of Christ. Nor do we believe the so-called "experts" of gloom and negative prophets of pollution, overpopulation, disease, famine, death and defeat who may have frightened you into believing that you, your family and your country are on a one way trip to doomsday. All this is part of fear hysteria propaganda. Pollution may be a problem in some congested areas but such propaganda of Ralph Nader and anti-pollution devices has increased the cost of automobiles to all Americans. Overpopulation is a favorite of the propaganda ministry of Herbert W. Armstrong. This is trite and it is the big lie. If America had the same population percentage wise as England we would have over three billion people. We are hardly crowded yet. Disease today is nothing by comparison to only thirty years ago when people died of polio, diptheria, malaria, pneumonia and you name it.----The idea of famine is as unthinkable and ridiculous as it can be with today's mechanized farming. Fewer farmers can produce more than at any time in history. In fact there is so much surplus that farm programs have been socialized to hold prices up. If America and the world ever faces famine it will be no fault of nature or the farmer but the conspiratorial efforts of evil men who try to enact perverted prophecies. We believe America is great because her people are great and that we will survive because we want the truth that shall make us free. The truth is that Communism and premillennialism are more than equal to Masonry - they are the offspring of Masonry, conceived and designed by Masonry to do for Masonry what Masonry could not do in its own name. Premillennialism is used to debauch the churches into the synagogues of Satan. This is the best kept secret of the ages, but it is basic to understanding revolution and power. This by no means discounts numerous other "isms" such as Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormonism, and many others. These are only subgroups of Masonry and once we understand the Gospel of Christ as well as the religion of Masonry we can identify instantly any "ism" as only a variation of Masonry. To say the least we should never be deceived by any Messianic millennial cult. Premillennialism is a conspiracy against Christ, whenever it rears its Masonic bead. It is not strange to a Christian in regard to Masonry, Communism, Premillennialism and Judaism that he cannot partake of one without accepting all, and likewise he cannot condemn one without condemning all. He who is a part of any of the four groups is a part of all of them. Did not Christ say be that he that is not with me is against me? -- end --" www.sweetliberty.org/issu...ax/unionjack_epilogue.htm One last comment....I do believe in the Kingdom of God on earth....after all these frogs are removed....Jesus said His Kingdom is not NOW from HENCE....as I explained yesterday.....
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
"For over 130 years, the Watchtower has stated that "the end" is just a few years away. Was that the truth?"
#2. To: Ncturnal (#0)
#3. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#1)
#4. To: Ncturnal (#0)
During my orientation training (yea, I tried) ~ they did not like any questions that could not be answered via their lil magazine ... grown adults were still being taught the basic chidren's versions of the top 10 bible stories ... my questioning this didn't earn brownie points .... questioning the number of times they got it wrong and who made out on the 'errors' doesn't earn points either
One good thing they did do for me was introduce me to Paganism .... see, until they told my children that their daddy was a Pagan and they needed to shun him so he wouldn't drag them to hell along with him, I didn't really know what a Pagan was. I had to do some research to find out if I was really evil ~ (yea, i know, that sounds a lil silly to the Athiests out here, but i am much better now)
~ is their shit 'truth' ~ I think they're like the rest in that respect, they have a few nuggets of truth and several screws loose with someone high up in the group defining reality for em ...
"You can tell you have created God in your own image when it turns out that he or she hates all the same people you do." - Anne Lamott
#5. To: Amandil, All (#4)
During my orientation training (yea, I tried) ~ they did not like any questions that could not be answered via their lil magazine ... grown adults were still being taught the basic chidren's versions of the top 10 bible stories ... my questioning this didn't earn brownie points .... questioning the number of times they got it wrong and who made out on the 'errors' doesn't earn points either
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
#6. To: RickyJ (#3)
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Wrong. Jesus never said in just a few years the world would end.
#7. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#6)
Steps of Freemasonry 
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