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Title: Colin Powell fires back at Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney Read more: "Colin Powell fires back at Rush"
Source: Politico
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22902.html
Published: May 26, 2009
Author: By JONATHAN MARTIN
Post Date: 2009-05-26 11:24:51 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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Views: 456
Comments: 23

In the latest round of the increasingly heated intra-GOP feud, former Secretary of State Colin Powell Sunday defended his Republican credentials and fired back at radio host Rush Limbaugh and former Vice President Dick Cheney, saying the party had to expand beyond its conservative base.

“Rush will not get his wish and Mr. Cheney was misinformed – I am still a Republican,” Powell said in a much-anticipated interview on CBS’s “Face the Nation” two weeks after Cheney suggested on the same show that the retired general had left the party by endorsing Barack Obama last fall.

Powell outlined his party bona fides, noting his votes for and services under a string of Republican presidents, and said it was not up to Cheney and Limbaugh – the radio host has kept up a steady drumbeat of criticism since Powell's cross-party endorsement last year – to determine who belonged in the GOP.

“Neither [Cheney] nor Rush Limbaugh are members of the membership committee of the Republican Party,” Powell said.

Powell suggested that there were a number of moderates in the party who shared his concerns but were hesitant to speak out “because if you are vocal you’re going to get your voice mail filled up and get lots of e-mails like I did.”

One such Republican did seem to take Powell's side of the fight today, as Former Homeland Security Secretary and Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge also joined in the criticism of Limbaugh Sunday.

“I think Rush articulates his point of view in ways that offend very many,” Ridge said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“It's a matter of language and a matter of how you use words. It does get the base all fired up and he's got a strong following. But personally, if he would listen to me and I doubt if he would, the notion is express yourselves but let's respect others opinions and let's not be divisive.”

Ridge also split with Cheney on the vice president's claim that Obama's policies were making Americans less safe. "I do not" agree with that, Ridge plainly told CNN's John King, adding, "Yeah, I disagree with Dick Cheney."

Powell also found a less likely ally in former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who said on "Meet the Press" that "I don't want to pick a fight with Dick Cheney, but the fact is, the Republican party has to be a broad party that appeals across the country," adding, "To be a national party, you have to have a big enough tent that you inevitably have fights inside the tent."

Pointing to President Ronald Reagan's at appealing to Democrats and independents as he carried 49 states in 1984, Gingrich – himself a potential 2012 contender for the party's presidential nomination – concluded, "I think Republicans are going to be very foolish if thy run around deciding that they're going to see how much they can purge us down to the smallest possible space."

It's a point Powell made, even as reiterated his commitment to the GOP, stressing that the party had to broaden itself to stay relevant, framing his critique as the political version of a military after-action report following last year’s election.

“I think the Republican Party has to take a hard look at itself and decide what kind of party are we,” Powell said. “Are we simply moving further to the right and by so doing opening up the right of center and the center to be taken over by independents and be taken over by Democrats.”

Powell – who held up the late Jack Kemp as a model for the party, a conservative who was inclusive – also had some choice words for his two critics.

Reiterating his support for closing down the terrorist detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Powell said Cheney’s opposition was an affront to Obama’s predecessor as well.

“Mr. Cheney is not only disagreeing with President Obama’s policy, he’s disagreeing with President Bush’s policy,” Powell said.

And, citing Cheney’s suggestion in a speech last week that President Obama only wanted to close Guantanamo to make Europeans happy, Powell said, “No, we’re doing it to reassure Europeans, Muslims, Arabs, all the people around the world, that we’re a nation of law.”

Lending credence to Democrats argument that moving the Gitmo detainees to American soil would not put the country in danger, Powell said he was “not terribly worried about one of these guys going to a super lock-up.”

As for Limbaugh – whose name Powell pronounced as “Lim-bow” – the former secretary of state said he was an “entertainer” but who had such influence over the party that officials had to live in fear of offending him.

He lamented that RNC Chairman Michael Steele had “to lay prostrate on the floor” apologizing to Limbaugh after criticizing him and that other GOP members of Congress had to be similarly repentant after taking on the radio host.

“Well, if he’s out there he should be subject to criticism, just as I’m subject to criticism,” Powell said.

Steele, who's giving on Tuesday what the RNC is touting as a major speech out his vision for the party, said in an interview this week with "Fox News," that "I want a party that speaks to people. The idea that we only narrowly speak to one segment of the population is boneheaded and it's not reflective of the history of this party," adding, "How is kicking Colin Powell out or kicking Dick Cheney out or Rush Limbaugh in going to feed a child who's hungry tonight?"

In an appearance on "Fox News Sunday," Karl Rove dismissed the dust-up between Cheney and Powell, since "neither one of those two are candidates," and deemed the fight "a false debate that Washington loves."

Asked if he agreed with Cheney's contention that Limbaugh was better for the Republican Party than Powell, Rove said: "Yes, if I had to pick between the two."

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Colin Powell fires back at Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney

Too bad he isn't using live ammunition.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-05-26   11:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The GOP's problem is twofold. First, we just concluded a period of history in which the GOP ran everything.

And they did it really badly.

They were corrupt and incompetent.

They led us into an unnecessary and costly war.

They got themselves embroiled in an endless string of scandals.

They presided over an epic economic collapse.

People remember all those things very vividly and it has badly damaged the Republican brand.

But that's only half of the GOP's problem.

The reason the Republican Party continues to bleed members has much more to do with the general attitude of the party's political and intellectual leaders than anything else.

Rather than admit to any mistakes or take even the slightest bit of responsibility for the state of the country, they insist on blaming everyone but themselves.

They watch TV and they see a very intelligent, charismatic President who says a lot of very reasonable sounding things and exudes competence. And then they see a bunch of angry conservatives and Republicans who insist that that same man is some sort of evil communist who's going to destroy the country.

In other words, the problem is not the ideas, but the attitude.

Republicans are coming across as a bunch of obnoxious, unreasonable a-holes.

When you've just been voted out of power for manifest incompetence and your opponents are led by a very popular and reasonable-sounding person, you don't have the luxury of acting smug and uncompromising all the time.

You have to acknowledge error and show some humility. You have to act civilly.

You have to at least try to appear pragmatic and reasonable.

But the GOP is not interested in doing any of these things.

Those who are left in the party are ultra-partisan and utterly convinced of their own infallibility and moral righteousness.

Until they lose that attitude and general combativeness, it won't matter what their ideas are. They'll just keep turning people off.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-05-26   11:44:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Pointing to President Ronald Reagan's at appealing to Democrats and independents as he carried 49 states in 1984

False anaology. The country was a lot more white.

Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-26   11:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The country was a lot more white.

================================

Describe in ten words or less what it is A LOT MORE OF today.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-05-26   11:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Describe in ten words or less what it is A LOT MORE OF today.

Brain dead. Terrible affliction, seems to get worse every year.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-26   12:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That says it for me.

"Satan / Cheney in "08"

tom007  posted on  2009-05-26   12:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They watch TV and they see a very intelligent, charismatic President who says a lot of very reasonable sounding things and exudes competence.

Sounds "reasonable" when the stupid sob says we have a "short-term problem" and had to spend all that money to help the bankers? LOL! I guess it sounded "reasonable" to the recipients of the Kenyan fraud's generosity (with other people's money). And what he exudes mostly is bs. Just like his predecessors.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-26   12:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Describe in ten words or less what it is A LOT MORE OF today

O positives.

Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-26   12:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

a reminder that both parties suck!

How Long Does It Take?

The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama

christine  posted on  2009-05-26   13:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

[Steele said] "How is kicking Colin Powell out or kicking Dick Cheney out or Rush Limbaugh in going to feed a child who's hungry tonight?"

The Republican Party -- feeding hungry children.

MUDDOG  posted on  2009-05-26   13:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I must have missed the part where Powell organized and advertised a named campaign effort, in order to elect a leading Democrat candidate, president.

mininggold  posted on  2009-05-26   14:52:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I must have missed the part where Powell organized and advertised a named campaign effort, in order to elect a leading Democrat candidate, president.

Yeah, me too.

BTW, has anybody heard who Limbaugh supports for Senator in Florida?

Will he go with the RNC machine candidate or the conservative? Or will he do what he usually does and duck the issue entirely while attacking the Democrats for not standing for anything?

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-05-26   15:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I must have missed the part where Powell organized and advertised a named campaign effort, in order to elect a leading Democrat candidate, president.

Go way back...

Powell is the gentleman that tried to whitewash My Lai for the military years ago.

That is never mentioned.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-05-26   16:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Powell is the gentleman that tried to whitewash My Lai for the military years ago.

That is never mentioned.

I believe you are right. Seems like I remember colin rectal powell being involved in the Mai Lai attempted cover-up.

He got to be stupid. Gave his speech as secretary of state claimimg Iraq was attempting to buy yellow cake when he knew it was a bold faced lie. He did this to appease the dick cheney and now cheney has no use for him.

I wouldn't make too much of tommy ridge supporting powell. After all, tommy ridge is the closest thing to a 'perfect asshole'. This whole party ought to just go away and take the demonwits with them.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-05-26   16:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Republican Party -- feeding hungry children.

As Jocelyn Elders and Maxine Waters would say, "It's for the chirren." Are you heartless? ahaha.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-26   16:57:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

[Steele said] "How is kicking Colin Powell out or kicking Dick Cheney out or Rush Limbaugh in going to feed a child who's hungry tonight?"

The Republican Party -- feeding hungry children.

a reminder that both parties suck!

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-05-26   22:43:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

THE WAR ON TERROR AND THE ORDER OF SKULL & BONES

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years.

It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government.

The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
~ David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

Happy2BMe-OnLP  posted on  2009-05-26

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-05-26   22:56:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

a reminder that both parties suck!

The cartoon is the same old same old -- try to discredit opponents of Obama by portraying Rush Limbaugh as their leader.

NBC Nightly News also did it tonight, playing a podcast of Rush talking against Sotomayor.

The MSM want to make it Rush or Obama, just like they want it to be Repub or Dem.

That's how they hope to funnel us into their two-party game.

MUDDOG  posted on  2009-05-26   22:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There are no two parties.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-05-26   23:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There are no two parties.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-05-26   23:15:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Democracy.

MUDDOG  posted on  2009-05-27   9:20:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't care what the Rs do with their party, but I never trusted Colin Powell. I also see Tom Ridge jumped into the fray on Powell's side. Any time a party can lose two leading internationalists to the other side, it's a plus.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-27   9:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A jig and a fag bitch-slapping each other in public.

It's all over for this country!!!

Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs...that's Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-05-27   9:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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