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Title: ANOTHER RIGHT WING BLOGGER VISITED BY SECRET SERVICE FOR QUESTIONING OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE
Source: JagHunters
URL Source: http://jaghunters.blogspot.com/
Published: May 27, 2009
Author: JagHunters
Post Date: 2009-05-27 12:13:41 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: None
Views: 283
Comments: 21

SECRET SERVICE IN GEORGIA: CARL SWENSSEN'S UPDATE

Carl writes:

"They approached me because they were instructed to someone in U.S. Attorney's office for Georgia's Central District. I can only assume it came from U.S, Attorney Wood.

"No names were given but badges were flashed and they were who they said they were.

"When I asked their names they asked for what purpose and I clearly stated I would post them on my web site. They both refused and I could have asked them to leave at that point but chose not to and I'm glad I didn't.

"We engaged in the constitutional definition of the term Natural Born and they were woefully ill prepared for my responses.

"The Secret Service special agents cited Article II Section I and said that there was gray area concerning the definition of Natural Born Citizen.

"I quickly showed them the definition as printed in the Laws of Nations and more specifically...Thomas Jefferson's definition posted on my web site.

"They were taken aback by my firm grip on the meaning and had to change course.

"One asked me how many favorable responses I had received from the Judges and I responded none at which point he said if I had tried that many times why didn't I just give up.

"I then asked if they had taken the oath to the Constitution and they agreed they had.

"I then reminded them that we now have Domestic enemies and asked what they planned to do about it. The sound of crickets was deafening. I reminded them that I was exercising my rights under the Constitution and they agreed I have every right to do so and furthermore I can continue doing this for as long as I wish.

"Their halfhearted attempt to dissuade me went nowhere so they finally cut to the chase.

"They were called out to make sure there was not a credible threat to the [impostor] president and I assured them that what all of us are doing is the last peaceful means of redress.

'What if that doesn't happen they asked?'

"I answered not and told them this was my focus as it is with thousands of others across the country and that I am certain I/we will be successful.

"They left asking just one question.

'If someone were to tell me they intended to do the [impostor] president harm, would I report it?'

"I respond in the affirmative.

"What I took away from that meeting was that these agents didn't know the Constitution as I do and they had some soul searching to do.

"I am proud to be on their radar.

"They specifically asked me not to give out their names for fear of reprisal.

I will honor that."

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

The sound of crickets was deafening.

Score! Hear those dissonant bells ringing.

Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-27   12:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

'If someone were to tell me they intended to do the [impostor] president harm, would I report it?'

Why would anyone report it? No one who claims they are going to do anything to the acting president could ever get close enough to him with his phalanx of goons. And anyone who actually did intend to harm him and might be possibly smart enough to figure out how to get to him is not going to go around advertising it. Anyone smart enough to do it is not stupid enough to broadcast it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-27   12:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: James Deffenbach (#2)

Anyone smart enough to do it is not stupid enough to broadcast it.

A most perfect analysis of most all 'threats.'

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-05-27   12:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, Ferret Mike, the Weasel, christine, all (#0)

"I then reminded them that we now have Domestic enemies and asked what they planned to do about it. The sound of crickets was deafening.

The reality is that they know they are in violation of their sworn oath, and are too cowardly to do anything about it.

The reality is that a good many of our people in government, so-called "Law Enforcement" and Military stand now in violation of their sworn oath and given word. They are thus oathbreakers or liars or both. There is no third option. The facts would seem quite clear at this point. Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama is a fraud, a liar, and has illegally infested the Office of President of The United States. There is no other apparent reason for him to spend in excess of one million dollars to keep his birth certificate a secret, nor to withhold his college records (which no doubt show that he applied for admission and financial aid as a foreign student). As well it is documented that he traveled under and Indonesian Passport, a country that does not allow dual citizenship, after his 18th birthday.

Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama is NOT President of The United States as he does not fulfil the Constitutional Requirements for the Office. He is in office fraudulently and had we honest law enforcement he would be arrested and put on trial immediately.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-05-27   12:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: James Deffenbach, HAPPY2BME-4UM (#2)

Anyone smart enough to do it is not stupid enough to broadcast it.

And to preserve the Republic, and restore the rule of law, it should not be done as it would be counter-productive to the cause turning him into a martyr. He should be held in revilement not martyrdom.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-05-27   12:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

If this exchange actually happened, our side is in wonderful shape. Diversity, affirmative action and gender norming appears to have rendered government employees to the intellectual level of mini-mart employees.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-27   12:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lodwick (#3)

A most perfect analysis of most all 'threats.'

Thanks lodwick. If anyone told me they were going to off the Kenyan or any other politician I would tell them not to tell me or anyone else their plans and have another beer (or whatever they were drinking). Most of the alleged "threats" are the result of too much alcohol and not enough presence of mind.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-27   12:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#5)

And to preserve the Republic, and restore the rule of law, it should not be done as it would be counter-productive to the cause turning him into a martyr. He should be held in revilement not martyrdom.

I have the utmost contempt for him myself and don't figure he is any better than anyone else. Even if he were an actual American instead of a foreigner illegally holding the office, he still wouldn't be any better than anyone else. And I don't see too many people getting all worked up when "Joe or Jane Six Pack" is threatened.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-27   12:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

Diversity, affirmative action and gender norming appears to have rendered government employees to the intellectual level of mini-mart employees.

There was a time when a man had self-respect and dignity, the kind that should have resulted in the mass resignation of thousands of commissioned military officers as well as badge-wearing/gun-toting government employees upon Obummers 'election'. Now, they only think about their paycheck and their pension and to hell with core values.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-05-27   13:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: James Deffenbach (#2)

Anyone smart enough to do it is not stupid enough to broadcast it.

And would have a fall guy set up to take the rap.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2009-05-27   13:12:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#5)

He should be held in revilement not martyrdom.

We can always hope and wish that he falls down a staircase and breaks his fool neck. Nothing illegal with openly stating that, either.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-05-27   13:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: MUDDOG (#10)

And would have a fall guy set up to take the rap.

Of course.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-27   13:19:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: X-15 (#9)

If these "agents" were truly concerned about the president, they'd begin their interviews at the head of the snake. The CIA has such a rich history.

CIA Had Hit List of 58 Guatemalans in the 1950s; Agency Reveals Details of Covert Action Against President Arbenz, Overthrown but Not Killed

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The CIA considered assassinating Guatemalan leaders more than 40 years ago, reviewing a list of 58 targets and training some gunmen for the job, but the killings were not carried out, the agency said yesterday.

The disclosure came as the CIA announced the release of 1,400 pages of once-classified records describing a covert action that caused the collapse of the government of Guatemalan President Jacobo Arbenz in June 1954. Arbenz fled to Cuba and eventually into exile in Mexico.

Although most details of the Guatemalan operation have been well known for years, yesterday's release of documents was the first time that the CIA disclosed that assassinations had been contemplated. Agency officials termed the assassination material "the most sensitive in the collection" that was released to the National Archives for public review.

The Eisenhower administration acted against Arbenz because he was viewed as a leftist. "There was considerable communist influence within his government, giving rise to fears that Guatemala could become a Soviet client state," a CIA official said.

From first planning sessions in 1952 during the final year of the Truman administration, assassination "as a substitute for, or in combination with" paramilitary operations was considered, the agency said. "Discussions of assassination took place at the working level but also involved senior agency officials and, on several occasions, State Department officials as well," the agency said in a summary paper.

In the end, as previously reported, a paramilitary force of exiled Guatemalans was trained and sent into the country to create pressure on Arbenz and "persuade military leaders inside the government to cooperate in a coup against Arbenz," the agency said.

The military action was coordinated with a propaganda campaign against Arbenz; two weeks after the invasion he resigned and left the country.

In the 1960s, the agency undertook other covert actions that included assassination attempts, including against Cuban President Fidel Castro, Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba of the Belgian Congo and the Dominican Republic's dictator, Rafael Trujillo. The Castro efforts failed; and although Lumumba died in a plane crash and Trujillo was shot, a 1975 congressional investigation found that neither death was a result of the CIA's actions.

The Guatemala assassination material was not made available to Capitol Hill investigators during the 1975 House and Senate hearings on the agency and was only discovered in 1979, the agency said.

However, when the American public learned in 1973 that the CIA had considered assassination as a policy, then-CIA Director William E. Colby prohibited further agency involvement in such action. In 1976, then-President Gerald R. Ford issued an executive order banning any U.S. government employee from involvement in assassination. That prohibition, expanded by President Jimmy Carter, remains in effect today.

Arguments still take place within the agency about the merits of the current policy, primarily because it has kept planners from undertaking covert operations that may as a side effect lead to some killings, according to retired and active agency officers. One official pointed to the Bush administration's military invasion of Panama to capture that country's dictator, Manuel Antonio Noriega, which took place after agency officials said a covert action to seize him might lead to his assassination.

The Associated Press added:

The documents released yesterday indicate that exiled rebel leader Castillo Armas, who took over after the fall of Arbenz, gave the CIA the list of 58 individuals to be assassinated. One CIA official reviewing the proposal suggested "even a smaller number, say 20, would be sufficient."

In March 1954, the CIA drew up criteria for assassination targets: high government and organization leaders "irrevocably implicated in Communist doctrine and policy"; "out and out proven Communist leaders"; or people in key government and military positions of tactical importance "whose removal for psychological, organizational or other reasons is mandatory for the success of military action."

In 1953, the CIA included plans for "K" groups, or assassin teams, to work with sabotage groups, and rebels began training assassins. CIA headquarters in Washington sent 20 silencers for .22-caliber rifles to the rebel killers training in Honduras, said a Jan. 11, 1954, cable.

In the spring of 1954, CIA officers made official requests to the State Department to implement assassinations. No cabled replies were found.

Three weeks before President Arbenz resigned, a CIA field officer met with officials in Washington to submit the political assassination plan in person. It was ruled out "at least for the immediate future," according to a once-classified CIA history of the events that was written in 1995.

Still, upon returning to Guatemala, the official told his CIA staff the consensus in Washington was, "Arbenz must go; how does not matter."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-27   13:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull, X-15, muddog, christine, Original_Intent, James Deffenbach, lodwick, Itistoolate (#13)

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-05-27   13:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

'If someone were to tell me they intended to do the [impostor] president harm, would I report it?'

in·for·mant (n-fôrmnt) n. 1. a. One that gives information. b. One who informs against others; an informer

Cynicom  posted on  2009-05-27   13:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: James Deffenbach (#2)

Besides, who would START with the kenyan puppet anyway - there's no logic in it from my POV.

That cockroach will be in a bunker on the day that complete hell in ameriKa comes.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-05-27   14:02:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rotara (#16)

Besides, who would START with the kenyan puppet anyway - there's no logic in it from my POV.

Yeah, he is just a puppet and a front man. If someone were smart enough and had the kind of connections he needed to get behind the curtain and take out the puppetmasters that would be a good day for America and the world. But if someone actually could get to the Kenyan fraud they would just put Biden in his seat and it would be ssdd. Just like it would from Biden all the way down to Ron Paul. If we could have Ron for president I can't see him taking orders from the puppeteers but most of the rest of them have sold out.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-27   14:14:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: James Deffenbach (#17) (Edited)

If Ron Paul were elected President, I could see playing out the same scenario which did during the final days of the Soviet Union.

Gorbachev was nominal president of the USSR up until its bitter end in late 1991, but by that time he was presiding over a shell entity. Yeltsin and his compatriots had taken over its constituent parts and just went around him.

Paul would be president of an entity disintegrating around him and devolving into its "shadow government" component parts.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-05-27   14:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Sam Houston (#18)

If Ron Paul were elected President, I could see playing out the same scenario which did during the final days of the Soviet Union.

It could happen that way. It could also be that Ron could lay out what America is supposed to be--an America with a sound money system and equal rights for everyone regardless of color or wealth (or lack thereof), and if Americans would rally around that we would have something to be proud of. I would like to think that it *could* be that way.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-27   15:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

From first planning sessions in 1952

I believe the first coup the CIA actually pulled off was in 1953, the overthrow of Mossadeq in Iran.

Then it was open season around the world.

So by the time the US overthrew Diem in Vietnam in 1963, they had had a lot of practice.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2009-05-27   15:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0) (Edited)

"The Secret Service special agents cited Article II Section I and said that there was gray area concerning the definition of Natural Born Citizen.

It seems to me they are ackowledging that Obama has a problem here. Just one little brith certificate would put an end to this.

I think it is quite obvious that birth certficate will never be seen because Obama would then not only have to step down as president, but be put in jail for fraud. Obama knew this and still yet he presisted in his campaign for president.

He must think his backers will cover for him and everything will be OK. Or maybe he assumed after he became president he could do whatever he wanted to do and get away with it. I think he now realizes that is not possible. He will do whatever his handlers say or he will be facing a jail term and he knows it now.

You have to wonder about someone that is very whealthy seeking such a headache as the title "ruler of the free world." You have to be either very stupid or extermely arrogant to think you can actually make a difference because of a title given to you by the elite.

He has sold his soul and life for a world of problems that he has no control over. If he really wanted to "change" things for the better, which I highly doubt he ever did, then the guy has to be severly depressed right now.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-05-27   16:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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