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Title: NAACP Branch Readies for Confederate Flag Fight
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,522203,00.html
Published: May 27, 2009
Author: Joshua Rhett Miller
Post Date: 2009-05-27 22:36:17 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 157
Comments: 14

A flag fight is brewing in southern Florida.

Members of the Miami-Dade branch of the NAACP want the Confederate flag banned from the Homestead-Miami Motor Speedway, and they will meet Thursday to decide whether to boycott a NASCAR race slated there for November.

Debra Toomer, the branch's chairwoman of press and publicity, said a planning session has been scheduled to decide on a course of action regarding the display of the flag at the Nov. 20-22 event, as well as its presence at city-sponsored events like last year's Veterans Day parade.

"The concern is there," Toomer said of Confederate flags. She declined to comment further before the meeting.

But officials at NASCAR and the raceway say there's little they can do to prevent spectators from displaying or waving the Confederate flag.

NASCAR spokesman Ramsey Poston told FOXNews.com that NASCAR's "longstanding policy" prohibits displays of the Confederate flag on its cars, uniforms, licensed merchandise or in advertisements.

"You're not going to see the flag or the symbol on any of those things," Poston said. "It's been that way for a very long time."

Poston said NASCAR has not received any communication from NAACP officials, and he stressed that NASCAR is "removed" from the controversy since it does not own or operate the Homestead-Miami Motor Speedway.

"We happen to run an event there once a year," Poston continued. "But we'd be happy to speak to [NAACP officials] and explain the situation."

Homestead-Miami Motor Speedway President Curtis Gray said spectators are not permitted to wave large flags of any sort in the stands because of safety concerns, and to prevent them from obstructing the view.

He said Confederate flag items are not sold or officially displayed throughout the 65,000-seat raceway, but there's no official ban on spectators bringing miniature flags to the track, or wearing T-shirts emblazoned with the symbol.

"... we don't regulate the lawful behavior of our fans or prohibit free speech and expression of our guests," Gray told FOXNews.com. "We can't tell people what to wear. Where do you start? Where does it end, as far as individual expression?"

Brandon Hensler, a spokesman for American Civil Liberties Union's Florida chapter, said bringing a Confederate flag to the race or any public event would be protected speech.

"If someone wants to show up with a shirt like that, there'd be no legal recourse for that," Hensler said. "Unless there's a specific threat, all speech is protected."

Gray declined to comment on the potential impact of a boycott or protest, since his office had not been contacted by NAACP officials in Florida.

Meanwhile, Rosemary Fuller, a member of the NAACP's Miami-Dade branch, said the civil rights group began drafting a letter last week to NASCAR Chairman and CEO Brian France to seek help in banning the controversial flag from the raceway.

Citing a "troubling racial discord" in Homestead, Fuller told the South Florida Times that NAACP members are ready to protest and potentially boycott the season-ending race weekend if NASCAR officials fail to support the effort. NAACP members are also reportedly prepared to contact NASCAR's sponsors if the auto racing league objects.

"Right now, we are still in the planning stages," Fuller told the South Florida Times. "But if NASCAR decides to come here under these conditions, we will meet them at the racetrack."

Brian France, CEO and chairman of NASCAR, who has called the Confederate flag a "fading image," said he's unable to control what flags spectators choose to fly at its mammoth facilities.

"It's not a flag that I look at with anything favorable, that's for sure," France told CBS in 2005. "I can't tell people what flag to fly. I can tell you the flag we get behind — it's the American flag."

The potential flag flap at Homestead would not be the first racial discrimination protest at the 65,000-seat raceway. A group called the National Association for Minority Race Fans reportedly held a two-hour protest prior to a race in 2004. Seeking to provide a safe and equal environment for minority motor sports fans, members of the group offered an American flag to anyone who relinquished a Confederate flag, The Miami Herald reported.

Chuck McMichael, commander in chief of Sons of the Confederate Veterans, a Tennessee-based group that promotes Confederate heritage, said the flag fight stems from last year's Veterans Day parade when some attendees objected to Confederate Army uniforms and flags displayed by participants. As a result, some Greater Homestead/Florida City residents sought to have the organization banned from future events, McMichael said.

But any attempts to block Confederate flags at Homestead-Miami Motor Speedway will be met with "some action," McMichael said, including the possibility of counter protests.

"Any time somebody starts talking about that, of course there's cause for concern," McMichael told FOXNews.com. "The bottom line is I don't think they should ban [Confederate flags] because there's nothing wrong with them. It's just people showing pride in their heritage."


Poster Comment:

Let the NAACP boycott, it'll be a nigger-free event then. BTW, how many niggers attend NASCAR events anyway??? Damn few.

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

Marvin Webster on Nascar:

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-27   22:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#0)

They live in crime ridden slums, where death, drugs and mayhem abound, but wave a Confederate flag, and they go nuts with fear. They are the most gullible, easily maneuvered people god ever put on the planet.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-27   23:14:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15 (#0)

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randge  posted on  2009-05-27   23:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: randge (#3)

'Tis beautiful. I find myself preferring the flag of the CSA over the American flag as I get older.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-05-28   0:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#0)

Let the NAACP boycott, it'll be a nigger-free event then. BTW, how many niggers attend NASCAR events anyway??? Damn few.

A black boycott?

Is that supposed to be a threat?

If NASCAR caves then disgruntled whites will watch on TV and ultimately destroy the entire franchise. And, no matter what they say, liberals and darkies ain't gonna patronize noisy race events to "show their economic muscle" and miss their preferred activities.

Or, perhaps in a few years NASCAR will have bounce races where guys in Chebbies jump their shorts around the track with their hydraulic shocks......

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-05-28   1:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15 (#0)

The Confederate Battle Flag is a symbol of resistance. While the NAACP is the front for this it is very likely some white guy thought this up and is directing the NAACP in this manipulated event.

What is under attack is a symbol of resistance to tyranny.

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"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-05-28   2:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: X-15 (#4)

flag of the CSA

When I was transfered to Norfolk. The first thing I did, was get My Flag on the upper arm I raise to God.. Let's see them just try and remove it..

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-05-28   3:13:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#6)

it is very likely some white guy thought this up and is directing the NAACP in this manipulated event.

Yep - the propagandists frequently (maybe always) are also the agitators. They cause a problem - or exacerbate an existing one - and then "fix" it. That "fixing" means they arrogate unto themselves more control over us. More control = less freedom. It's the same old same old. It's called Government. George Washington himself said that Government is Force....

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Bub  posted on  2009-05-28   8:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: X-15 (#0)

BTW, how many x attend NASCAR events anyway??? Damn few.

About as many you find in the woods sitting in a deer stand or hunting basically anything.

See one with a gun and you best pay attention.

I've seen only 1 at a range, and he was an ex-army DI and evidently not a problem to anyone.

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It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.

It's a forum post, not a doctoral thesis.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-05-28   9:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: randge (#3)

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-28   9:18:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: X-15 (#0) (Edited)

One of the funniest things I've ever seen was when I was in Branson, Missouri a few years ago with my soon-to-be ex.

Branson is about white as you can get -- Dolly Parton, Roy Clark, etc.

I saw a black couple on the street -- the only blacks I had ever seen in Branson. I actually did a double-take.

I thought, who exactly did you come to see down here?

Blacks boycotting NASCAR is like their boycotting Branson. It's a joke.

Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs...that's Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-05-28   20:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15 (#0)

The Last Rebel: Gene Hackman meets H.K. Edgerton, Former NAACP President (#1) [Full Thread]
Post Date:  2009-05-28  20:20:38   From: Deasy   To: All

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-28   20:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Turtle (#11)

It makes as much sense as white people threatening to boycott shopping along an MLK Blvd.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-05-28   20:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deasy (#12)

H.K. Edgerton makes a whole lot of people really uncomfortable. Especially when he rails about the cruelty of Union troops and asks "What about black Confederate soldiers?".

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-05-28   20:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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