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Title: The Last Rebel: Gene Hackman meets H.K. Edgerton, Former NAACP President
Source: The Tribune Papers (Ashville)
URL Source: http://www.ashevilletribune.com/ash ... /heritage/Hackman-Edgerton.pdf
Published: Jul 3, 2008
Author: H.K. Edgerton
Post Date: 2009-05-28 20:18:59 by Deasy
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ASHEVILLE, June 27 — On Thursday, June 26, 2008, at the invitation of Asheville Tribune Editor David Morgan and confirmation of SLRC Administrative Director, the Honorable Roger McCredie that a Truth Patrol should be present; I would don the uniform of the Southern soldier, pick up his glorious banner and head out to Malaprop's Bookstore in downtown Asheville where actor Gene Hackman with his co-author, Daniel Lenihan had come to promote, sign copies and answer questions about their book titled "Escape From Andersonville," touted as a novel of the Civil War.

After greeting and posing for pictures for many of the people that included some of Asheville and Buncombe Counties' most prominent citizens who stood in line outside Malaprops waiting to be seated, I would enter and take my seat right up front next to the podium from which the authors would speak. After their introductions whereupon Mr. Hackman had set the stage with his charismatic charm, he turned and introduced his co-author who began his opening statements by saying that their book centered on Andersonville that was undoubtedly the worst prisoner of war facility on either side of the war effort, North or South. After several more moments of discourse in an explanation that their book was about some Union Captain who had escaped Andersonville and was planning on returning to aid in the escape of some of his comrades who were still suffering there; Mr. Lenihan opened the foor up for questions from the audience.

I was the frst to be recognized and offered this discord: "Mr. Lenihan, I take great exception on your opening remarks in describing Andersonville as the worst of the prison systems on both sides of he War. You make no mention of places like Camp Douglas which would have made Andersonville ook like a picnic with the POPE." I take exception with the title of your book, The Escape from Andersonville, when Major Wirtz did everything he could do to return Union soldiers under the prisoner exchange program, only to have General Grant suspend the program and send his men back to an overcrowded Andersonville where Major Wirtz was having diffculty feeding his own men.

You make no mention of the deliberate actions of Union Colonel Sweet, who deliberately starved, tortured, maimed and immediately killed any Confederate soldier who looked like me and left their remains to be eaten by the hoards of rats who patrolled there. Mr. Lenihan would back away from his original contentions and began to offer a substantially different and more accurate description of historical events surrounding this tragic epoch. I must say that it was not until Mr. Hackman answered a question in affrmation that he and Mr. Lenihan had come to the conclusion that the trial and consequential hanging of Major Wirtz was tainted and Major Wirtz was used as a scapegoat by the Northern Federal government, did I began to feel better about this night, and when I began clap loudly after Mr. Hackman's statement, I believed he felt his frst moment of relief.

I raised my hand once more and told Mr. Hackman that he had always been one of my favorite actors, but that on this evening that before he had so by his statements vindicated himself and his co-author; I had come to whip him. He answered cheerfully that he could sense that. I told him that Harriet Beecher Stowe's book, "Uncle Tom's Cabin" and the biased writings about Andersonville had probably been the most signifcant determining factors in turning Northern people against the Southern people, and probably more so than Lincoln's proclamation that those bad people have fred upon our flag at Ft. Sumter, and for this reason alone, anything written about Andersonville would always fall under the eye of those of us who work hard to vindicate our homeland from the wrongs that besiege the pages of those who write unfairly about her.

On Friday June 27, 2008, the Asheville Citizen-Times would only show a postage stamp picture taken by their staff photographer, John Coutlakis with his arms draped around one of our residents, but you can believe it was not the picture that he took with a black man dressed in the Confederate uniform carrying the Confederate Naval Jack. Nor would the story reported carry the exchange of dialogue that took place in Malaprops that would lead some of Western North Carolina's most prominent citizens and visitors as it had Gene Hackman and co-author Daniel Lenihan to the conclusion that Major Wirtz deserved vindicat ion and just maybe so does his homeland, the Southland of America.


The Last Rebel (slide show with the song)

There's a grey horse standin' still
As a soldier climbs in the saddle for one last ride
As the rain pours off his hat
You can see the shadows of the past written in his eyes
Now the cannons are silent
His friends are all gone
Gotta put it all behind him
If he ever wants to find his way home
He's the last rebel on the road
Just a boy with his old guitar
Keeps to himself but everybody takes him wrong
But he carries on
Got a dream that will never die
Can't change him, no use in stayin' where you don't belong
Now he's rollin' down the highway
Gone too far too fast
No one will ever find him, he'll never look back
(chorus)
'Cause he's the last rebel
And he's all alone
He's the last rebel
His friends are all gone
He's the last rebel
The last rebel on the road
There'll never be another like him
He's the last of a dying breed
Ain't no use in tryin' to tame him
'Cause he's the last rebel
(repeat chorus)

Lynyrd Skynyrd The Last Rebel lyrics


Poster Comment:

missing b&w picture of Hackman with Edgerton - download the pdf to view
http://www.ashevilletribune.com/asheville/heritage/Hackman-Edgerton.pdf
caption follows.

Above, H.K. Edgrton (l) and Gene Hackman (r).On Thursday, June 26, actor Gene Hackman and Dan Lenihan presented themselves for a book signing and discussion at Malaprops bookstore of their Civil War novel / Escape from Andersonville./ The bookstore was packed with an attentive audience. Even though the book was fctional and not written as an historical account, several people asked Hackman and Lenihan their views regarding historical events. One of the questions asked was whether or not the authors thought that the North had railroaded the Commandant of the camp, Captain Henry Wirz, to his hanging at the end of the war. After some refection, the authors voiced their view that they believed that such had been the case. After the discussion, the authors remained to sign what appeared to be close to 100 of their books. In a slight turn of events - that was well received - H.K. Edgerton presented the authors with a copy of Mike Scruggs’ book /The Un-Civil War/ that Edgerton himself signed, while dressed in his Confederate uniform and carrying the Battle Flag

Good Enough for Hackman

It was interesting to observe the jovial mood of Gene Hackman having his photograph taken with H.K. Edgerton at Malaprops last week. (Ref pic page 3) We were reminded of a few weeks ago when we received a phone call from Rocky D, who is a well-known talk show host in Charleston, S.C. for WTMA-AM 1250. Rocky D was in Asheville attending our Memorial Day presentations downtown and was walking around with H.K. Edgerton. He had interviewed H.K. on his show several times, in Charleston and in Tampa, FL, and considered him to be a friend.

At the downtown ceremonies, H.K. had introduced Rocky to Mayor Terry Bellamy. After the introduction, a lady photographer was standing near-by and asked the mayor if she would stand next to H.K. for a photograph. At that point Mayor Bellamy declared firmly, "No, I do not want my picture taken with him," and walked off.

Shortly after that we received a call from Rocky D who reiterated the event to us and said he felt rather embarrassed for Asheville and HK about what had happened. He thought we would like to be made aware of this strange photo session. Well, Rocky, all we can say is that we guess HK is good enough for Gene Hackman, but just not good enough for Asheville's mayor.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._K._Edgerton

Sovereign Solutions: H.K. Edgerton, southern American


http://www.dixiecom.com/blackneo.htm

H.K Edgerton interview (4 minutes)

http://www.southernheritage411.com/ - Edgerton's own website. (1 image)

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http://cwmemory.com/2009/04/16/comment-from-hk-edgerton/

Comment From H.K. Edgerton

by Kevin Levin on April 16, 2009

in Civil War Culture, Confederate Slaves, Lost Cause, Southern History

You can imagine my surprise when I noticed this comment from H.K. Edgerton in response to the last post.  For those of you who do not know of Mr. Edgerton, he is one of the more outspoken and charismatic proponents of the black Confederate myth.  Interestingly, Mr. Edgerton is African American.  He can be found in a Confederate uniform and carrying a Confederate flag on long treks through the South.  His last mission took him to the inauguration of Barack Obama in January.  I’ve offered extensive commentary about Mr. Edgerton over the course of the life of this blog, which you can find at the bottom.

It is unfortunate that those of you who were educated in the Federal school system have such a dim view of the honorable Black confederate soldier. If you can be so proud of the Black Union soldier who received half the pay of his counterpart, one who fought with a bayonet at his back from his white counterpart, watched as his wives were raped by the union soldier and used as concubine, watched as his Southern Black and White families homes were burned, food stuffs to feed innocent women and children stolen, animals killed, women raped and murdered. You go ahead and be proud of the Battle of the Craters, and Denzelle Washington’s Glory as the Union Whites murdered their black’s returning to their lines.

Here in the South we shall continue to honor Napoleon Nelson ant the other the Black men who rode with the Honorable General Nathan Bedford Forrest , and the likes of Holt Collier, Levi Carnine, Rev. Mack Lee and celebrate Dick Poplar in Petersburg, Virginia. The shame is that you truly believe the propaganda of your Northern Master.

Unfortunately, Edgerton’s comment follows the standard Lost Cause narrative along with vague comparisons/references to the challenges that blacks faced in the Union army as well as the North generally.  Still, it’s nice to know that he is reading the blog.  See the following posts for additional commentary about Edgerton:

H.K. Edgerton Marches Through Texas

H.K. Edgerton and Nathan B. Forrest: Brothers in Arms

The Real Price of Forgetting the Past

H.K. Edgerton Goes to Washington

Edgerton Sighting in Ringgold, Georgia

The Last Black Confederate Surrenders

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-28   20:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

www.southernheritage411.com

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-28   20:24:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deasy (#0)

Neat stuff. How funny is it that he's pictured in front of the SPLC? :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-28   20:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

He marches toward the sound of the guns.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-28   20:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deasy (#0)

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-05-28   21:13:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deasy, All (#0)

Friends, I entreat you all and enjoin you in a most solemn way from using the untoward language toward our black brothers on this forum which I sometimes read in posts here.

Those that hate us and are busy cooking up wars and picking our pockets may be driving us headlong into times of calamity. There are great conflicts brewing the like of which this country has not seen in a century and a half.

We will need all the allies that we can muster. Do not spurn these hands. Black folks to helped build this land. They too know the meaning of the word Liberty.

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randge  posted on  2009-05-28   21:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: randge (#6)

Friends, I entreat you all and enjoin you in a most solemn way from using the untoward language toward our black brothers on this forum which I sometimes read in posts here.

Those that hate us and are busy cooking up wars and picking our pockets may be driving us headlong into times of calamity. There are great conflicts brewing the like of which this country has not seen in a century and a half.

We will need all the allies that we can muster. Do not spurn these hands. Black folks to helped build this land. They too know the meaning of the word Liberty.

+1

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-05-28   22:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: randge, Refinersfire, All (#7)

It has been estimated that over 65,000 Southern blacks were in the Confederate ranks. Over 13,000 of these, "saw the elephant" also known as meeting the enemy in combat. These Black Confederates included both slave and free. The Confederate Congress did not approve blacks to be officially enlisted as soldiers (except as musicians), until late in the war. But in the ranks it was a different story. Many Confederate officers did not obey the mandates of politicians, they frequently enlisted blacks with the simple criteria, "Will you fight?" Historian Ervin Jordan, explains that "biracial units" were frequently organized "by local Confederate and State militia Commanders in response to immediate threats in the form of Union raids". Dr. Leonard Haynes, an African-American professor at Southern University, [Now: Executive Director of the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities] stated, "When you eliminate the black Confederate soldier, you've eliminated the history of the South." — http://www.37thtexas.org/html/BlkHist.html

Some resources mentioned at the above link:

Edgerton is a credit to his people. He's a reminder that one person can make a big difference in the attitudes of many others just by speaking out on issues that seem to be taken for granted. His story of leaving the N.A.A.C.P. and taking up his so-called NeoConfederate causes must be full of interesting contradictions. He's got stories to tell.

Critics forget that perspective is a significant element in understanding history.

The Flag Man of the South: Edgerton explains his trip to attempt to visit President Elect Obama.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-28   23:15:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge, Refinersfire, Christine, Turtle (#8)

Some things you might not have known.

'Homeland II: St Andrew's Cross and Dixie'

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-28   23:49:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: randge (#6)

What is a Good Kaffir?

Edgerton may be a good man or no; his fight is not mine. If there is advantage to be gained, then perhaps we can do business.

Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-29   0:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#10)

I don't know what your cause may be, but kaffir comes from an Arabic word that means "stranger", "outlander."

Let me tell in no uncertain terms that the South and very little else stands between all of us and a socialist tyranny which is the precursor to the ascendancy of the new world order. Black folks are part and parcel of that South as are the Creeks and the Choctaw, the Tejanos, the Cajuns, the Scots- Irish, and all the others that flooded here from the shores of Europe. All these folks are part of the South in its culture, music, politics, as well as its outlook on the world. That is the way it is. And I like it the way it is.

We're predominantly the sons of outlanders who have made a new land. To me, kaffir is a foreign word. It does not exist in my dialect of English. It is simply not common parlance, as far as I'm concerned. When I hear that word off a man's tongue, I know I'm speaking with an outlander.

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randge  posted on  2009-05-29   9:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: randge (#6)

Friends, I entreat you all and enjoin you in a most solemn way from using the untoward language toward our black brothers on this forum which I sometimes read in posts here.

Those that hate us and are busy cooking up wars and picking our pockets may be driving us headlong into times of calamity. There are great conflicts brewing the like of which this country has not seen in a century and a half.

We will need all the allies that we can muster. Do not spurn these hands. Black folks to helped build this land. They too know the meaning of the word Liberty.

Very good post and so very true. Freedom, and Liberty are color blind.

We must overcome these meager differences to slay the beast that would take our Freedoms away. Anything less aids the beast.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-05-29   9:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: randge (#11)

I don't know what your cause may be

I'm not so sure myself. I used to think it was "America". Then I thought it was all whites, but I sure as hell ain't European. I'm not a Southerner, but I wish the South well. Wherever I finally decide -- and I can hardly be blamed for not knowing, since the South is the only real nation in the states -- I know the place I want to end up doesn't include baggy pant negro neighbors, because they are violent, amoral and dumb. Historically, Southerners have known all that about the negro, but have been reluctant to say it, out of basic kindness.

Look where that got you.

There's no point in whites working with blacks until whites realize they have a side. If some blacks are offended in getting to that point, too bad.

Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-29   10:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: phantom patriot (#12)

Freedom, and Liberty are color blind.

Bullshit.

Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-29   10:49:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deasy (#8)

Does he know Brother Nathaniel?

Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-29   12:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deasy (#8)

I've enjoyed the videos and the links that I have followed, because of them. Learned a lot more then I knew before.. Thanks..

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-05-29   17:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Prefrontal Vortex, phantom patriot (#14)

To: phantom patriot

Freedom, and Liberty are color blind.

Bullshit.

Not Bullshit.. the part you are overlooking, is that just as Freedom and Liberty ARE color blind, so are Stupidity and Ignorance.. it seems sadly, you have come across more then your share, of those that follow the last part.

In today's world, that number will only grow.. :-(

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

"Don't Tread on Me", originally a war cry of Benjamin Franklin during America's fight for independence, has come to symbolize the American spirit. It first appeared on the Gadsen flag (named for and by General Christopher Gadsen) which featured the slogan below a coiled rattlesnake that was ready to attack. The snake (along with the slogan) came to symbolize America as an animal that would never strike first, but when provoked, would never give in. Today, it also symbolizes and celebrates personal independence and perseverance.

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-05-29   17:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Refinersfire (#17)

Hillary thinks liberty is age-blind too. Do you?

Exercise: Substitute "child" for "black" and "age" for "race" in your thinking.

Are some children capable of informed consent and emancipation? Most certainly. Yet we don't spend a lot of time or energy trying to figure out which ones.

Not loving niggers like I love my own children, I have no problem at all with blacks' emancipation and separation.

Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-29   17:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: bluegrass (#18)

I'll trade you "kike" for "nigger-lover". I can't recall my maternal grandmother ever saying "kike" but I know she and everyone back in Kansas where me ma was raised employed the term "nigger-lover".

Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-29   18:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Prefrontal Vortex, X-15 (#15)

Does he know Brother Nathaniel?

I don't know either of those people personally. I found Edgerton's story yesterday when I was looking at X-15's thread on NASCAR's flag controversy.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-29   18:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Prefrontal Vortex, phantom patriot, Refinersfire, Jethro Tull, randge, christine, bluegrass (#13)

You all have interesting perspectives. I'd say that Edgerton's activities are provocative in nature. If a "Southron" white American behaved as he has, it would make little difference. We probably wouldn't have found out about it, for one thing. He got Americans talking about the subject of censorship and of regional identity. We're talking about racial identity because of it. These things are not exclusive to good citizenship and good neighborly behavior. The SPLC wants us all, especially whites, to believe that racial identity leads to disadvantages to everyone involved. They want whites to see things as a zero-sum game that means everyone has to share, and only some people have to give something up in order to have liberty for all. People should be able to pursue their own interests with principle. The SPLC is wrong to suggest otherwise.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-29   18:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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