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Title: Long Time Sun Source: Tube URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1D3ejwQiVg Published: Mar 7, 2008 Author: Snatam Kaur Post Date: 2009-05-30 13:18:08 by Deasy Ping List: *Up to the Sun* Subscribe to *Up to the Sun* Keywords: Odin, Doc Martens, Asatru, AryanViews: 351 Comments: 27
An old Irish blessing and the golden voice of Snatam Kaur. From the album 'Grace' (Spirit Voyage Records 2004). May the long time sun shine upon you, All love surround you,And the pure Light within youGuide your way on,Guide your way on,Guide your way on! Poster Comment:Snatam Kaur Khalsa (born 1972 in Trinidad, Colorado), is an American singer and songwriter. She performs the Sikh devotional music, kirtan and tours around the world as a peace activist. She lives in Española, New Mexico. Like all American Sikhs, and followers of Yogi Bhajan, she shares the middle name "Kaur" and the last name "Khalsa" with other female Sikhs. Early life and education Her family moved to California when Snatam was two, living in Long Beach and Sacramento. When Snatam was six, the family went to India where her mother studied Kirtan. Snatam lived on a ranch near Bolinas, California until 8th grade and then moved to Mill Valley in 1986. During her childhood, she played kirtan with her mother in Sikh temples and at Sikh religious ceremonies. She attended Tamalpais High School in Mill Valley. While at Tam High, she played violin in the school orchestra and began songwriting. Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead coached her and her classmates before they performed her song Saving the Earth at an Earth Day concert in San Francisco on April 22, 1990. Snatam was also active in social and environmental causes while in high school, serving as president of the social action club known as, "Students for Justice," her Senior year. The club started a campus recycling program and organized environmenal awareness programs. The club also led the effort to change the school mascot and sports team names from the Indians to the Red Tailed Hawk in 1989 and 1990 due to a speech given at the school by Sacheen Littlefeather. After graduating from Tam, Snatam attended Mills College in Oakland, California, receiving a bachelors degree in biochemistry. She then returned to India, to study Kirtan under her mother's teacher, Bhai Hari Singh. In 1997, Kaur began a career as a food technologist with Peace Cereals in Eugene, Oregon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snatam_Kaur Subscribe to *Up to the Sun*
May the long time sun shine upon you,
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Snatam Kaur Khalsa (born 1972 in Trinidad, Colorado), is an American singer and songwriter. She performs the Sikh devotional music, kirtan and tours around the world as a peace activist. She lives in Española, New Mexico. Like all American Sikhs, and followers of Yogi Bhajan, she shares the middle name "Kaur" and the last name "Khalsa" with other female Sikhs.
Early life and education
Her family moved to California when Snatam was two, living in Long Beach and Sacramento. When Snatam was six, the family went to India where her mother studied Kirtan. Snatam lived on a ranch near Bolinas, California until 8th grade and then moved to Mill Valley in 1986. During her childhood, she played kirtan with her mother in Sikh temples and at Sikh religious ceremonies. She attended Tamalpais High School in Mill Valley. While at Tam High, she played violin in the school orchestra and began songwriting. Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead coached her and her classmates before they performed her song Saving the Earth at an Earth Day concert in San Francisco on April 22, 1990.
Snatam was also active in social and environmental causes while in high school, serving as president of the social action club known as, "Students for Justice," her Senior year. The club started a campus recycling program and organized environmenal awareness programs. The club also led the effort to change the school mascot and sports team names from the Indians to the Red Tailed Hawk in 1989 and 1990 due to a speech given at the school by Sacheen Littlefeather.
After graduating from Tam, Snatam attended Mills College in Oakland, California, receiving a bachelors degree in biochemistry. She then returned to India, to study Kirtan under her mother's teacher, Bhai Hari Singh. In 1997, Kaur began a career as a food technologist with Peace Cereals in Eugene, Oregon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snatam_Kaur
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#1. To: Deasy (#0) Beautiful song. Who is glorified? HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 13:33:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #2. To: Deasy (#0) HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 13:35:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, randge (#1) Go lonródh an ghrian ort ar feadh i bhfad, grá id thimpeall, agus go dtugadh an solas laistigh dui tar do threoir thú. Irish-Gaelic to English Translation: May the longtime sun shine upon you, all love surround you, And the sweet light within you guide you on your way. The original Irish, had they been saying this, would have glorified their love of life. The Irish were long ago worshipers of the sun as the planet's life-giver. St. Patrick gives, according to an Erse poem, no such credit to the Irish; crying out, "O blasphemous Cumhal, that honour you pay to the sun, through ignorance of the omnipotent King, is no more perfect than if you worshipped your shield." The Milligans, in their learned story of the Irish under the Druids, say, "They worshipped the sun as their principal Deity, and the moon as their second Deity, like the Phœnicians." And: "Ossian sang--"When wilt thou rise in thy beauty, first of Erin's maids? Thy sleep is long in the tomb. The sun shall not come to thy bed, and sing, 'Awake Darthula! Awake, thou first of women! The voice of spring is abroad. The flowers shake their heads on the green hills. The woods wave their growing leaves.' Retire, O Sun! The daughter of Colla is asleep. She will not come forth in her beauty. She will not move in the steps of her loveliness." Snatam Kaur Khalsa is a Sikh, and according to Sikh wiki, the Kshatriyas — with a minority of Sikh converts, had engaged in sun worship, and their clan is named after the lord of the sun. The Punjab, where the Sikh religion originates, is a center of sun worship. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 13:52:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #4. To: Deasy (#3) The sun is a source of life. Is it THE Source of life? Can it LOVE you back? HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:04:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #5. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#4) The people who believed these things are long dead. Many of them were killed by Catholic priests, who themselves were bowing down to a Jewish god. Their books were burned. Their poets were blinded. Their wise men crucified. What did they know? Christians eradicated so much of what they knew that it's very difficult to say. We do not know that the dead believed that the sun loved them in return, but the things the sun bestowed on them, they did see as bounteous and merciful. Apparently many, many peoples across the earth shared similar views. Followers of Germanic religions bowed to no one, nor did they supplicate. They either changed the world around them, or died trying. It took the Roman empire to crush them, and still their ideas live on. Externsteine solstice summer 2008 Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:15:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #6. To: Deasy (#5) Seek and you will find. Knock and the door will be opened .. HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:19:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #7. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#6) I'm not missing anything. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:21:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #8. To: Deasy (#7) What is anything? HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:25:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #9. To: Deasy (#0) Damn, what's wrong with you? Can't you post some good shit, like some rap or something? Sheesh! Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs...that's Turtle Island. Turtle posted on 2009-05-30 14:31:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #10. To: Deasy (#7) Nature is wondrously beautiful. The Creator is even more wonderful. HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:32:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #11. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#10) The English Odinist known as 'Stubba' said: "heathenism [is] the only true international religion. It differs according to each racial group, according to that group's culture and history. www.rosenoire.org/reviews/pagan_resurrection.php Gods are always there for us to create, more recently in our own image. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:40:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #12. To: Deasy (#11) Heathenism is the oldest "religion." It was created by man, so that he could worship himself. Lucifer showed it to him. HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:57:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #13. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#12) More likely, Jews found that monotheism was an effective form of iconoclasm. They could divide and conquer with it. It was the sword of Allah, the pillar of fire. What each of us knew inside, they claimed was only accessible through their teachings. Deny yourself, they say. The concept of Lucifer came from Babylon, via Israel's exposure to Zoroastrianism. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:59:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #14. To: Deasy (#13) HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 15:12:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #15. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#14) The most famous interview in C.G. Jung Speaking is a 1959 interview with the BBC’s John Freeman. Jung was then 84; he died two years later, in 1961. Freeman asks him “do you now believe in God?” “Now? [Pause.] Difficult to answer. I know. I don’t need to believe. I know.”1 And what exactly was it that Jung thought he knew? He knew that God existed, that God existed as an archetype in the human mind. This implies that God would not exist if man did not exist. Thus, Jung’s standpoint is close to the standpoint of the typical mystic: God is within me, I am God, without me God doesn’t exist. Elsewhere Jung says that the hero is a symbol of the Self, of the whole person (conscious and unconscious). Christ, too, is a symbol of the Self, an archetype of the Self. Where does that leave God the Father? Is he, too, an archetype of the Self, just like his son? Or is God the Father some sort of energy, permeating the universe? I’m surprised that when Jung made his famous remark — “I don’t believe, I know” — Freeman didn’t ask Jung to explain, to explain what he meant by “God.” www.ljhammond.com/phlit/2002-03.htm (L. James Hammond 2002) It's good to have your counterpoints on these threads. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 18:04:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #16. To: Deasy (#15) “Once I was gravely ill, almost in a coma. Everybody thought that I was suffering terribly, but in fact, I was experiencing something extremely pleasant. I seemed to be floating over my body, far above it.”4 This sort of out-of-body experience is often encountered in the literature on psychic phenomena; it usually happens to people on the brink of death. =================================== I have actually had an OOBE. Anyone who does will recall it vividly, for the rest of their entire life. A clear, glass-like half-bubble came down on my spirit as I looked at my body, and those looking at my body, and kept me from the grasp of death. I could actually feel not only the force that kept me from death, but I could sense there was a struggle of forces competing for my spirit. God won. I'm still here. ;~) HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 18:14:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #17. To: Deasy (#15) This implies that God would not exist if man did not exist. No wonder he's jealous! Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense. Prefrontal Vortex posted on 2009-05-30 18:15:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #18. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#16) Very good to have you here. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 18:15:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #19. To: Deasy (#15) A clear, glass-like half-bubble came down on my spirit as I looked DOWN at my body from above, and those looking at my body, and kept me from the grasp of death. HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 18:15:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #20. To: Deasy (#18) I'm HAPPY2BHERE. ;>) There are powerful forces in nature that are mirrors of what is occurring in the "Spirit World." That is why native Indians who have never been exposed to any kind of spiritual influences from "civilized man" were always able to sense it. They simply called it "The Great Spirit" or "The Spirit of Our Fathers." HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 18:19:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #21. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#20) Native Indians may know something that the west has tended to forget. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 18:20:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #22. To: Deasy (#21) Assuredly, they do. My grandmother had the spirit of an angel. In fact, I can sense her presence as I write this. She was Cherokee and spoke it fluently. She would have visions and tell me of them. HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 18:22:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #23. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, rack42 (#22) thelastoutpost.com/../our-legacy-denounced.html Our Legacy DenouncedPost Date: 2009-05-26 21:41:26 by rack426 Comments I learned nothing more about the Blue Star until one day my husband decided to look the word up in a search engine. There was such a word, and to my surprise the spelling was similar to what I had written down. And I usually set it all aside, since I have lost home, friends, family because of my visions and quests. Occasionally though, it is thrown in my face and I cannot ignore it. This time, last week I overheard a talk given by Robert Morning Sky and that the Blue Star Kachina was made up by him and that "It" does not exist in Hopi legend. If it does not then I would like to know why; I dreamt of Sequeska, and the Old Indian Man, and why was it that:I lived at the foot of Oracle Hill, and why, in a dream did,I descended into a dark cave, and stood before men in shining glittering gowns and demanded my freedom; and why is it that:I lived off of Highway 72 near the Antelope Valley (AV), and why did,I moved to Missouri, Off of Highway 72, near the Arcadia Valley (AV) which is called the Blue Star Highway or the Trail of Tears, and why was,I given a crystal key in a dream and told I had "the key, now use it".But mostly why do I find this path the most important thing in life to the consternation of my family and friends, who think I should be living in Beverly hills not in Missouri and doing what they consider crazy and a destruction of my life. I believe wholeheartedly that the information I found regarding the United States Government shows that the truth behind the Government is that it is in "Breach of Trust" to all those who have been born in this country or those that have come here believing in a better way of life only to find out that there is no freedom in America, only freedom. I believe wholeheartedly that the land, our lives, our liberty and our pursuit of happiness has been stolen from us and that the Government is operating under what is called "an office of Profit" which we as human beings born in this country were never meant to be subject to. We fall under the "office of trust" which really, truly exists but cannot be claimed by any of us because of the trickery of words used against us to believe in something that is not there. Sequeska! Very shortly I will be adding a page to this document called "the Legacy" It will go further into the matter of truth about your birthrights. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 18:42:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #24. To: Deasy (#23) Interesting. HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 18:55:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #25. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#24) This stuff just sounds poetic, but I have no idea what its real value is. But some related links: onceuponadolphin.blogspot.com/2006/12/saquasohuh.html and sequasohuh.tripod.com/ Saquasohuh Things have been quite hectic for me of late. I'm in the process of packing everything up to move to Arizona. I could not, however, resist the temptation to draw out a quick design for this weeks Illustration Friday topic "mask". The topic reminded me of the ancient Hopi prophecy of Saquasohuh. According to the prophecy the fifth world will emerge and there will be a time of purification upon the arrival of the "Blue Star Kachina" (otherwise known as Saquasohuh). He shall remove his mask during a dance in the plaza before uninitiated children, and this will bring about the emergence of the fifth world.If you like to read up on the subject, I found an article here that goes into more detail about the fascinating Hopi prophecies. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 18:59:48 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply #26. To: Deasy (#25) Unless you get up around Flagstaff, Arizona is going to be REALLY hot. HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 19:05:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #27. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#26) That text is from the link. The author is interested in the Saquasohuh prophecy. Deasy posted on 2009-05-31 9:00:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
Beautiful song. Who is glorified?
Who is glorified?
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 13:33:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 13:35:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Go lonródh an ghrian ort ar feadh i bhfad, grá id thimpeall, agus go dtugadh an solas laistigh dui tar do threoir thú. Irish-Gaelic to English Translation: May the longtime sun shine upon you, all love surround you, And the sweet light within you guide you on your way. The original Irish, had they been saying this, would have glorified their love of life. The Irish were long ago worshipers of the sun as the planet's life-giver. St. Patrick gives, according to an Erse poem, no such credit to the Irish; crying out, "O blasphemous Cumhal, that honour you pay to the sun, through ignorance of the omnipotent King, is no more perfect than if you worshipped your shield." The Milligans, in their learned story of the Irish under the Druids, say, "They worshipped the sun as their principal Deity, and the moon as their second Deity, like the Phœnicians." And: "Ossian sang--"When wilt thou rise in thy beauty, first of Erin's maids? Thy sleep is long in the tomb. The sun shall not come to thy bed, and sing, 'Awake Darthula! Awake, thou first of women! The voice of spring is abroad. The flowers shake their heads on the green hills. The woods wave their growing leaves.' Retire, O Sun! The daughter of Colla is asleep. She will not come forth in her beauty. She will not move in the steps of her loveliness." Snatam Kaur Khalsa is a Sikh, and according to Sikh wiki, the Kshatriyas — with a minority of Sikh converts, had engaged in sun worship, and their clan is named after the lord of the sun. The Punjab, where the Sikh religion originates, is a center of sun worship.
Go lonródh an ghrian ort ar feadh i bhfad, grá id thimpeall, agus go dtugadh an solas laistigh dui tar do threoir thú. Irish-Gaelic to English Translation: May the longtime sun shine upon you, all love surround you, And the sweet light within you guide you on your way.
Irish-Gaelic to English Translation: May the longtime sun shine upon you, all love surround you, And the sweet light within you guide you on your way.
The original Irish, had they been saying this, would have glorified their love of life. The Irish were long ago worshipers of the sun as the planet's life-giver.
St. Patrick gives, according to an Erse poem, no such credit to the Irish; crying out, "O blasphemous Cumhal, that honour you pay to the sun, through ignorance of the omnipotent King, is no more perfect than if you worshipped your shield." The Milligans, in their learned story of the Irish under the Druids, say, "They worshipped the sun as their principal Deity, and the moon as their second Deity, like the Phœnicians."
"Ossian sang--"When wilt thou rise in thy beauty, first of Erin's maids? Thy sleep is long in the tomb. The sun shall not come to thy bed, and sing, 'Awake Darthula! Awake, thou first of women! The voice of spring is abroad. The flowers shake their heads on the green hills. The woods wave their growing leaves.' Retire, O Sun! The daughter of Colla is asleep. She will not come forth in her beauty. She will not move in the steps of her loveliness."
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 13:52:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
The sun is a source of life. Is it THE Source of life? Can it LOVE you back?
Is it THE Source of life?
Can it LOVE you back?
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:04:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
The people who believed these things are long dead. Many of them were killed by Catholic priests, who themselves were bowing down to a Jewish god. Their books were burned. Their poets were blinded. Their wise men crucified. What did they know? Christians eradicated so much of what they knew that it's very difficult to say. We do not know that the dead believed that the sun loved them in return, but the things the sun bestowed on them, they did see as bounteous and merciful. Apparently many, many peoples across the earth shared similar views. Followers of Germanic religions bowed to no one, nor did they supplicate. They either changed the world around them, or died trying. It took the Roman empire to crush them, and still their ideas live on. Externsteine solstice summer 2008
Followers of Germanic religions bowed to no one, nor did they supplicate. They either changed the world around them, or died trying. It took the Roman empire to crush them, and still their ideas live on.
Externsteine solstice summer 2008
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:15:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Seek and you will find. Knock and the door will be opened ..
Knock and the door will be opened ..
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:19:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
I'm not missing anything.
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:21:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
What is anything?
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:25:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Damn, what's wrong with you? Can't you post some good shit, like some rap or something? Sheesh!
Sheesh!
Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs...that's Turtle Island.
Turtle posted on 2009-05-30 14:31:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Nature is wondrously beautiful. The Creator is even more wonderful.
The Creator is even more wonderful.
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:32:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
The English Odinist known as 'Stubba' said: "heathenism [is] the only true international religion. It differs according to each racial group, according to that group's culture and history. www.rosenoire.org/reviews/pagan_resurrection.php Gods are always there for us to create, more recently in our own image.
The English Odinist known as 'Stubba' said: "heathenism [is] the only true international religion. It differs according to each racial group, according to that group's culture and history.
www.rosenoire.org/reviews/pagan_resurrection.php
Gods are always there for us to create, more recently in our own image.
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:40:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Heathenism is the oldest "religion." It was created by man, so that he could worship himself. Lucifer showed it to him.
It was created by man, so that he could worship himself.
Lucifer showed it to him.
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:57:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
More likely, Jews found that monotheism was an effective form of iconoclasm. They could divide and conquer with it. It was the sword of Allah, the pillar of fire. What each of us knew inside, they claimed was only accessible through their teachings. Deny yourself, they say. The concept of Lucifer came from Babylon, via Israel's exposure to Zoroastrianism.
The concept of Lucifer came from Babylon, via Israel's exposure to Zoroastrianism.
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:59:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 15:12:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
The most famous interview in C.G. Jung Speaking is a 1959 interview with the BBC’s John Freeman. Jung was then 84; he died two years later, in 1961. Freeman asks him “do you now believe in God?” “Now? [Pause.] Difficult to answer. I know. I don’t need to believe. I know.”1 And what exactly was it that Jung thought he knew? He knew that God existed, that God existed as an archetype in the human mind. This implies that God would not exist if man did not exist. Thus, Jung’s standpoint is close to the standpoint of the typical mystic: God is within me, I am God, without me God doesn’t exist. Elsewhere Jung says that the hero is a symbol of the Self, of the whole person (conscious and unconscious). Christ, too, is a symbol of the Self, an archetype of the Self. Where does that leave God the Father? Is he, too, an archetype of the Self, just like his son? Or is God the Father some sort of energy, permeating the universe? I’m surprised that when Jung made his famous remark — “I don’t believe, I know” — Freeman didn’t ask Jung to explain, to explain what he meant by “God.” www.ljhammond.com/phlit/2002-03.htm (L. James Hammond 2002) It's good to have your counterpoints on these threads.
The most famous interview in C.G. Jung Speaking is a 1959 interview with the BBC’s John Freeman. Jung was then 84; he died two years later, in 1961. Freeman asks him “do you now believe in God?” “Now? [Pause.] Difficult to answer. I know. I don’t need to believe. I know.”1 And what exactly was it that Jung thought he knew? He knew that God existed, that God existed as an archetype in the human mind. This implies that God would not exist if man did not exist. Thus, Jung’s standpoint is close to the standpoint of the typical mystic: God is within me, I am God, without me God doesn’t exist. Elsewhere Jung says that the hero is a symbol of the Self, of the whole person (conscious and unconscious). Christ, too, is a symbol of the Self, an archetype of the Self. Where does that leave God the Father? Is he, too, an archetype of the Self, just like his son? Or is God the Father some sort of energy, permeating the universe? I’m surprised that when Jung made his famous remark — “I don’t believe, I know” — Freeman didn’t ask Jung to explain, to explain what he meant by “God.” www.ljhammond.com/phlit/2002-03.htm (L. James Hammond 2002)
Elsewhere Jung says that the hero is a symbol of the Self, of the whole person (conscious and unconscious). Christ, too, is a symbol of the Self, an archetype of the Self. Where does that leave God the Father? Is he, too, an archetype of the Self, just like his son? Or is God the Father some sort of energy, permeating the universe? I’m surprised that when Jung made his famous remark — “I don’t believe, I know” — Freeman didn’t ask Jung to explain, to explain what he meant by “God.”
www.ljhammond.com/phlit/2002-03.htm (L. James Hammond 2002)
It's good to have your counterpoints on these threads.
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 18:04:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
“Once I was gravely ill, almost in a coma. Everybody thought that I was suffering terribly, but in fact, I was experiencing something extremely pleasant. I seemed to be floating over my body, far above it.”4 This sort of out-of-body experience is often encountered in the literature on psychic phenomena; it usually happens to people on the brink of death. =================================== I have actually had an OOBE. Anyone who does will recall it vividly, for the rest of their entire life. A clear, glass-like half-bubble came down on my spirit as I looked at my body, and those looking at my body, and kept me from the grasp of death. I could actually feel not only the force that kept me from death, but I could sense there was a struggle of forces competing for my spirit. God won. I'm still here. ;~)
“Once I was gravely ill, almost in a coma. Everybody thought that I was suffering terribly, but in fact, I was experiencing something extremely pleasant. I seemed to be floating over my body, far above it.”4 This sort of out-of-body experience is often encountered in the literature on psychic phenomena; it usually happens to people on the brink of death.
===================================
I have actually had an OOBE. Anyone who does will recall it vividly, for the rest of their entire life.
A clear, glass-like half-bubble came down on my spirit as I looked at my body, and those looking at my body, and kept me from the grasp of death.
I could actually feel not only the force that kept me from death, but I could sense there was a struggle of forces competing for my spirit.
God won.
I'm still here.
;~)
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 18:14:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
This implies that God would not exist if man did not exist. No wonder he's jealous!
This implies that God would not exist if man did not exist.
No wonder he's jealous!
Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense.
Prefrontal Vortex posted on 2009-05-30 18:15:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Very good to have you here.
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 18:15:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
A clear, glass-like half-bubble came down on my spirit as I looked DOWN at my body from above, and those looking at my body, and kept me from the grasp of death.
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 18:15:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
I'm HAPPY2BHERE. ;>) There are powerful forces in nature that are mirrors of what is occurring in the "Spirit World." That is why native Indians who have never been exposed to any kind of spiritual influences from "civilized man" were always able to sense it. They simply called it "The Great Spirit" or "The Spirit of Our Fathers."
;>)
There are powerful forces in nature that are mirrors of what is occurring in the "Spirit World."
That is why native Indians who have never been exposed to any kind of spiritual influences from "civilized man" were always able to sense it. They simply called it "The Great Spirit" or "The Spirit of Our Fathers."
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 18:19:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Native Indians may know something that the west has tended to forget.
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 18:20:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Assuredly, they do. My grandmother had the spirit of an angel. In fact, I can sense her presence as I write this. She was Cherokee and spoke it fluently. She would have visions and tell me of them.
My grandmother had the spirit of an angel. In fact, I can sense her presence as I write this.
She was Cherokee and spoke it fluently. She would have visions and tell me of them.
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 18:22:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
thelastoutpost.com/../our-legacy-denounced.html Our Legacy DenouncedPost Date: 2009-05-26 21:41:26 by rack426 Comments I learned nothing more about the Blue Star until one day my husband decided to look the word up in a search engine. There was such a word, and to my surprise the spelling was similar to what I had written down. And I usually set it all aside, since I have lost home, friends, family because of my visions and quests. Occasionally though, it is thrown in my face and I cannot ignore it. This time, last week I overheard a talk given by Robert Morning Sky and that the Blue Star Kachina was made up by him and that "It" does not exist in Hopi legend. If it does not then I would like to know why; I dreamt of Sequeska, and the Old Indian Man, and why was it that:I lived at the foot of Oracle Hill, and why, in a dream did,I descended into a dark cave, and stood before men in shining glittering gowns and demanded my freedom; and why is it that:I lived off of Highway 72 near the Antelope Valley (AV), and why did,I moved to Missouri, Off of Highway 72, near the Arcadia Valley (AV) which is called the Blue Star Highway or the Trail of Tears, and why was,I given a crystal key in a dream and told I had "the key, now use it".But mostly why do I find this path the most important thing in life to the consternation of my family and friends, who think I should be living in Beverly hills not in Missouri and doing what they consider crazy and a destruction of my life. I believe wholeheartedly that the information I found regarding the United States Government shows that the truth behind the Government is that it is in "Breach of Trust" to all those who have been born in this country or those that have come here believing in a better way of life only to find out that there is no freedom in America, only freedom. I believe wholeheartedly that the land, our lives, our liberty and our pursuit of happiness has been stolen from us and that the Government is operating under what is called "an office of Profit" which we as human beings born in this country were never meant to be subject to. We fall under the "office of trust" which really, truly exists but cannot be claimed by any of us because of the trickery of words used against us to believe in something that is not there. Sequeska! Very shortly I will be adding a page to this document called "the Legacy" It will go further into the matter of truth about your birthrights.
thelastoutpost.com/../our-legacy-denounced.html Our Legacy DenouncedPost Date: 2009-05-26 21:41:26 by rack426 Comments
Our Legacy DenouncedPost Date: 2009-05-26 21:41:26 by rack426 Comments
I learned nothing more about the Blue Star until one day my husband decided to look the word up in a search engine. There was such a word, and to my surprise the spelling was similar to what I had written down. And I usually set it all aside, since I have lost home, friends, family because of my visions and quests. Occasionally though, it is thrown in my face and I cannot ignore it. This time, last week I overheard a talk given by Robert Morning Sky and that the Blue Star Kachina was made up by him and that "It" does not exist in Hopi legend. If it does not then I would like to know why;
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 18:42:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Interesting.
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 18:55:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
This stuff just sounds poetic, but I have no idea what its real value is. But some related links: onceuponadolphin.blogspot.com/2006/12/saquasohuh.html and sequasohuh.tripod.com/ Saquasohuh Things have been quite hectic for me of late. I'm in the process of packing everything up to move to Arizona. I could not, however, resist the temptation to draw out a quick design for this weeks Illustration Friday topic "mask". The topic reminded me of the ancient Hopi prophecy of Saquasohuh. According to the prophecy the fifth world will emerge and there will be a time of purification upon the arrival of the "Blue Star Kachina" (otherwise known as Saquasohuh). He shall remove his mask during a dance in the plaza before uninitiated children, and this will bring about the emergence of the fifth world.If you like to read up on the subject, I found an article here that goes into more detail about the fascinating Hopi prophecies.
This stuff just sounds poetic, but I have no idea what its real value is. But some related links: onceuponadolphin.blogspot.com/2006/12/saquasohuh.html and sequasohuh.tripod.com/
Saquasohuh
Things have been quite hectic for me of late. I'm in the process of packing everything up to move to Arizona. I could not, however, resist the temptation to draw out a quick design for this weeks Illustration Friday topic "mask". The topic reminded me of the ancient Hopi prophecy of Saquasohuh. According to the prophecy the fifth world will emerge and there will be a time of purification upon the arrival of the "Blue Star Kachina" (otherwise known as Saquasohuh). He shall remove his mask during a dance in the plaza before uninitiated children, and this will bring about the emergence of the fifth world.If you like to read up on the subject, I found an article here that goes into more detail about the fascinating Hopi prophecies.
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 18:59:48 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
Unless you get up around Flagstaff, Arizona is going to be REALLY hot.
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 19:05:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
That text is from the link. The author is interested in the Saquasohuh prophecy.
Deasy posted on 2009-05-31 9:00:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs
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