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Title: Long Time Sun Source: Tube URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1D3ejwQiVg Published: Mar 7, 2008 Author: Snatam Kaur Post Date: 2009-05-30 13:18:08 by Deasy Ping List: *Up to the Sun* Subscribe to *Up to the Sun* Keywords: Odin, Doc Martens, Asatru, AryanViews: 374 Comments: 27
An old Irish blessing and the golden voice of Snatam Kaur. From the album 'Grace' (Spirit Voyage Records 2004). May the long time sun shine upon you, All love surround you,And the pure Light within youGuide your way on,Guide your way on,Guide your way on! Poster Comment:Snatam Kaur Khalsa (born 1972 in Trinidad, Colorado), is an American singer and songwriter. She performs the Sikh devotional music, kirtan and tours around the world as a peace activist. She lives in Española, New Mexico. Like all American Sikhs, and followers of Yogi Bhajan, she shares the middle name "Kaur" and the last name "Khalsa" with other female Sikhs. Early life and education Her family moved to California when Snatam was two, living in Long Beach and Sacramento. When Snatam was six, the family went to India where her mother studied Kirtan. Snatam lived on a ranch near Bolinas, California until 8th grade and then moved to Mill Valley in 1986. During her childhood, she played kirtan with her mother in Sikh temples and at Sikh religious ceremonies. She attended Tamalpais High School in Mill Valley. While at Tam High, she played violin in the school orchestra and began songwriting. Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead coached her and her classmates before they performed her song Saving the Earth at an Earth Day concert in San Francisco on April 22, 1990. Snatam was also active in social and environmental causes while in high school, serving as president of the social action club known as, "Students for Justice," her Senior year. The club started a campus recycling program and organized environmenal awareness programs. The club also led the effort to change the school mascot and sports team names from the Indians to the Red Tailed Hawk in 1989 and 1990 due to a speech given at the school by Sacheen Littlefeather. After graduating from Tam, Snatam attended Mills College in Oakland, California, receiving a bachelors degree in biochemistry. She then returned to India, to study Kirtan under her mother's teacher, Bhai Hari Singh. In 1997, Kaur began a career as a food technologist with Peace Cereals in Eugene, Oregon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snatam_Kaur Subscribe to *Up to the Sun*
May the long time sun shine upon you,
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Snatam Kaur Khalsa (born 1972 in Trinidad, Colorado), is an American singer and songwriter. She performs the Sikh devotional music, kirtan and tours around the world as a peace activist. She lives in Española, New Mexico. Like all American Sikhs, and followers of Yogi Bhajan, she shares the middle name "Kaur" and the last name "Khalsa" with other female Sikhs.
Early life and education
Her family moved to California when Snatam was two, living in Long Beach and Sacramento. When Snatam was six, the family went to India where her mother studied Kirtan. Snatam lived on a ranch near Bolinas, California until 8th grade and then moved to Mill Valley in 1986. During her childhood, she played kirtan with her mother in Sikh temples and at Sikh religious ceremonies. She attended Tamalpais High School in Mill Valley. While at Tam High, she played violin in the school orchestra and began songwriting. Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead coached her and her classmates before they performed her song Saving the Earth at an Earth Day concert in San Francisco on April 22, 1990.
Snatam was also active in social and environmental causes while in high school, serving as president of the social action club known as, "Students for Justice," her Senior year. The club started a campus recycling program and organized environmenal awareness programs. The club also led the effort to change the school mascot and sports team names from the Indians to the Red Tailed Hawk in 1989 and 1990 due to a speech given at the school by Sacheen Littlefeather.
After graduating from Tam, Snatam attended Mills College in Oakland, California, receiving a bachelors degree in biochemistry. She then returned to India, to study Kirtan under her mother's teacher, Bhai Hari Singh. In 1997, Kaur began a career as a food technologist with Peace Cereals in Eugene, Oregon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snatam_Kaur
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#1. To: Deasy (#0) Beautiful song. Who is glorified? HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 13:33:02 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, randge (#1) Go lonródh an ghrian ort ar feadh i bhfad, grá id thimpeall, agus go dtugadh an solas laistigh dui tar do threoir thú. Irish-Gaelic to English Translation: May the longtime sun shine upon you, all love surround you, And the sweet light within you guide you on your way. The original Irish, had they been saying this, would have glorified their love of life. The Irish were long ago worshipers of the sun as the planet's life-giver. St. Patrick gives, according to an Erse poem, no such credit to the Irish; crying out, "O blasphemous Cumhal, that honour you pay to the sun, through ignorance of the omnipotent King, is no more perfect than if you worshipped your shield." The Milligans, in their learned story of the Irish under the Druids, say, "They worshipped the sun as their principal Deity, and the moon as their second Deity, like the Phœnicians." And: "Ossian sang--"When wilt thou rise in thy beauty, first of Erin's maids? Thy sleep is long in the tomb. The sun shall not come to thy bed, and sing, 'Awake Darthula! Awake, thou first of women! The voice of spring is abroad. The flowers shake their heads on the green hills. The woods wave their growing leaves.' Retire, O Sun! The daughter of Colla is asleep. She will not come forth in her beauty. She will not move in the steps of her loveliness." Snatam Kaur Khalsa is a Sikh, and according to Sikh wiki, the Kshatriyas — with a minority of Sikh converts, had engaged in sun worship, and their clan is named after the lord of the sun. The Punjab, where the Sikh religion originates, is a center of sun worship. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 13:52:45 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #4. To: Deasy (#3) The sun is a source of life. Is it THE Source of life? Can it LOVE you back? HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:04:56 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #5. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#4) The people who believed these things are long dead. Many of them were killed by Catholic priests, who themselves were bowing down to a Jewish god. Their books were burned. Their poets were blinded. Their wise men crucified. What did they know? Christians eradicated so much of what they knew that it's very difficult to say. We do not know that the dead believed that the sun loved them in return, but the things the sun bestowed on them, they did see as bounteous and merciful. Apparently many, many peoples across the earth shared similar views. Followers of Germanic religions bowed to no one, nor did they supplicate. They either changed the world around them, or died trying. It took the Roman empire to crush them, and still their ideas live on. Externsteine solstice summer 2008 Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:15:33 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #6. To: Deasy (#5) Seek and you will find. Knock and the door will be opened .. HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:19:44 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #7. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#6) I'm not missing anything. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:21:26 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #10. To: Deasy (#7) Nature is wondrously beautiful. The Creator is even more wonderful. HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:32:09 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #11. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#10) The English Odinist known as 'Stubba' said: "heathenism [is] the only true international religion. It differs according to each racial group, according to that group's culture and history. www.rosenoire.org/reviews/pagan_resurrection.php Gods are always there for us to create, more recently in our own image. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:40:11 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #12. To: Deasy (#11) Heathenism is the oldest "religion." It was created by man, so that he could worship himself. Lucifer showed it to him. HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:57:20 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #13. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#12) More likely, Jews found that monotheism was an effective form of iconoclasm. They could divide and conquer with it. It was the sword of Allah, the pillar of fire. What each of us knew inside, they claimed was only accessible through their teachings. Deny yourself, they say. The concept of Lucifer came from Babylon, via Israel's exposure to Zoroastrianism. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:59:58 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #14. To: Deasy (#13) HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 15:12:33 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply Replies to Comment # 14. #15. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#14) The most famous interview in C.G. Jung Speaking is a 1959 interview with the BBC’s John Freeman. Jung was then 84; he died two years later, in 1961. Freeman asks him “do you now believe in God?” “Now? [Pause.] Difficult to answer. I know. I don’t need to believe. I know.”1 And what exactly was it that Jung thought he knew? He knew that God existed, that God existed as an archetype in the human mind. This implies that God would not exist if man did not exist. Thus, Jung’s standpoint is close to the standpoint of the typical mystic: God is within me, I am God, without me God doesn’t exist. Elsewhere Jung says that the hero is a symbol of the Self, of the whole person (conscious and unconscious). Christ, too, is a symbol of the Self, an archetype of the Self. Where does that leave God the Father? Is he, too, an archetype of the Self, just like his son? Or is God the Father some sort of energy, permeating the universe? I’m surprised that when Jung made his famous remark — “I don’t believe, I know” — Freeman didn’t ask Jung to explain, to explain what he meant by “God.” www.ljhammond.com/phlit/2002-03.htm (L. James Hammond 2002) It's good to have your counterpoints on these threads. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 18:04:39 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply End Trace Mode for Comment # 14. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
Beautiful song. Who is glorified?
Who is glorified?
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 13:33:02 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
Go lonródh an ghrian ort ar feadh i bhfad, grá id thimpeall, agus go dtugadh an solas laistigh dui tar do threoir thú. Irish-Gaelic to English Translation: May the longtime sun shine upon you, all love surround you, And the sweet light within you guide you on your way. The original Irish, had they been saying this, would have glorified their love of life. The Irish were long ago worshipers of the sun as the planet's life-giver. St. Patrick gives, according to an Erse poem, no such credit to the Irish; crying out, "O blasphemous Cumhal, that honour you pay to the sun, through ignorance of the omnipotent King, is no more perfect than if you worshipped your shield." The Milligans, in their learned story of the Irish under the Druids, say, "They worshipped the sun as their principal Deity, and the moon as their second Deity, like the Phœnicians." And: "Ossian sang--"When wilt thou rise in thy beauty, first of Erin's maids? Thy sleep is long in the tomb. The sun shall not come to thy bed, and sing, 'Awake Darthula! Awake, thou first of women! The voice of spring is abroad. The flowers shake their heads on the green hills. The woods wave their growing leaves.' Retire, O Sun! The daughter of Colla is asleep. She will not come forth in her beauty. She will not move in the steps of her loveliness." Snatam Kaur Khalsa is a Sikh, and according to Sikh wiki, the Kshatriyas — with a minority of Sikh converts, had engaged in sun worship, and their clan is named after the lord of the sun. The Punjab, where the Sikh religion originates, is a center of sun worship.
Go lonródh an ghrian ort ar feadh i bhfad, grá id thimpeall, agus go dtugadh an solas laistigh dui tar do threoir thú. Irish-Gaelic to English Translation: May the longtime sun shine upon you, all love surround you, And the sweet light within you guide you on your way.
Irish-Gaelic to English Translation: May the longtime sun shine upon you, all love surround you, And the sweet light within you guide you on your way.
The original Irish, had they been saying this, would have glorified their love of life. The Irish were long ago worshipers of the sun as the planet's life-giver.
St. Patrick gives, according to an Erse poem, no such credit to the Irish; crying out, "O blasphemous Cumhal, that honour you pay to the sun, through ignorance of the omnipotent King, is no more perfect than if you worshipped your shield." The Milligans, in their learned story of the Irish under the Druids, say, "They worshipped the sun as their principal Deity, and the moon as their second Deity, like the Phœnicians."
"Ossian sang--"When wilt thou rise in thy beauty, first of Erin's maids? Thy sleep is long in the tomb. The sun shall not come to thy bed, and sing, 'Awake Darthula! Awake, thou first of women! The voice of spring is abroad. The flowers shake their heads on the green hills. The woods wave their growing leaves.' Retire, O Sun! The daughter of Colla is asleep. She will not come forth in her beauty. She will not move in the steps of her loveliness."
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 13:52:45 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
The sun is a source of life. Is it THE Source of life? Can it LOVE you back?
Is it THE Source of life?
Can it LOVE you back?
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:04:56 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
The people who believed these things are long dead. Many of them were killed by Catholic priests, who themselves were bowing down to a Jewish god. Their books were burned. Their poets were blinded. Their wise men crucified. What did they know? Christians eradicated so much of what they knew that it's very difficult to say. We do not know that the dead believed that the sun loved them in return, but the things the sun bestowed on them, they did see as bounteous and merciful. Apparently many, many peoples across the earth shared similar views. Followers of Germanic religions bowed to no one, nor did they supplicate. They either changed the world around them, or died trying. It took the Roman empire to crush them, and still their ideas live on. Externsteine solstice summer 2008
Followers of Germanic religions bowed to no one, nor did they supplicate. They either changed the world around them, or died trying. It took the Roman empire to crush them, and still their ideas live on.
Externsteine solstice summer 2008
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:15:33 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
Seek and you will find. Knock and the door will be opened ..
Knock and the door will be opened ..
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:19:44 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
I'm not missing anything.
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:21:26 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
Nature is wondrously beautiful. The Creator is even more wonderful.
The Creator is even more wonderful.
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:32:09 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
The English Odinist known as 'Stubba' said: "heathenism [is] the only true international religion. It differs according to each racial group, according to that group's culture and history. www.rosenoire.org/reviews/pagan_resurrection.php Gods are always there for us to create, more recently in our own image.
The English Odinist known as 'Stubba' said: "heathenism [is] the only true international religion. It differs according to each racial group, according to that group's culture and history.
www.rosenoire.org/reviews/pagan_resurrection.php
Gods are always there for us to create, more recently in our own image.
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:40:11 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
Heathenism is the oldest "religion." It was created by man, so that he could worship himself. Lucifer showed it to him.
It was created by man, so that he could worship himself.
Lucifer showed it to him.
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 14:57:20 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
More likely, Jews found that monotheism was an effective form of iconoclasm. They could divide and conquer with it. It was the sword of Allah, the pillar of fire. What each of us knew inside, they claimed was only accessible through their teachings. Deny yourself, they say. The concept of Lucifer came from Babylon, via Israel's exposure to Zoroastrianism.
The concept of Lucifer came from Babylon, via Israel's exposure to Zoroastrianism.
Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 14:59:58 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2009-05-30 15:12:33 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#15. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#14) The most famous interview in C.G. Jung Speaking is a 1959 interview with the BBC’s John Freeman. Jung was then 84; he died two years later, in 1961. Freeman asks him “do you now believe in God?” “Now? [Pause.] Difficult to answer. I know. I don’t need to believe. I know.”1 And what exactly was it that Jung thought he knew? He knew that God existed, that God existed as an archetype in the human mind. This implies that God would not exist if man did not exist. Thus, Jung’s standpoint is close to the standpoint of the typical mystic: God is within me, I am God, without me God doesn’t exist. Elsewhere Jung says that the hero is a symbol of the Self, of the whole person (conscious and unconscious). Christ, too, is a symbol of the Self, an archetype of the Self. Where does that leave God the Father? Is he, too, an archetype of the Self, just like his son? Or is God the Father some sort of energy, permeating the universe? I’m surprised that when Jung made his famous remark — “I don’t believe, I know” — Freeman didn’t ask Jung to explain, to explain what he meant by “God.” www.ljhammond.com/phlit/2002-03.htm (L. James Hammond 2002) It's good to have your counterpoints on these threads. Deasy posted on 2009-05-30 18:04:39 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply End Trace Mode for Comment # 14. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
The most famous interview in C.G. Jung Speaking is a 1959 interview with the BBC’s John Freeman. Jung was then 84; he died two years later, in 1961. Freeman asks him “do you now believe in God?” “Now? [Pause.] Difficult to answer. I know. I don’t need to believe. I know.”1 And what exactly was it that Jung thought he knew? He knew that God existed, that God existed as an archetype in the human mind. This implies that God would not exist if man did not exist. Thus, Jung’s standpoint is close to the standpoint of the typical mystic: God is within me, I am God, without me God doesn’t exist. Elsewhere Jung says that the hero is a symbol of the Self, of the whole person (conscious and unconscious). Christ, too, is a symbol of the Self, an archetype of the Self. Where does that leave God the Father? Is he, too, an archetype of the Self, just like his son? Or is God the Father some sort of energy, permeating the universe? I’m surprised that when Jung made his famous remark — “I don’t believe, I know” — Freeman didn’t ask Jung to explain, to explain what he meant by “God.” www.ljhammond.com/phlit/2002-03.htm (L. James Hammond 2002) It's good to have your counterpoints on these threads.
The most famous interview in C.G. Jung Speaking is a 1959 interview with the BBC’s John Freeman. Jung was then 84; he died two years later, in 1961. Freeman asks him “do you now believe in God?” “Now? [Pause.] Difficult to answer. I know. I don’t need to believe. I know.”1 And what exactly was it that Jung thought he knew? He knew that God existed, that God existed as an archetype in the human mind. This implies that God would not exist if man did not exist. Thus, Jung’s standpoint is close to the standpoint of the typical mystic: God is within me, I am God, without me God doesn’t exist. Elsewhere Jung says that the hero is a symbol of the Self, of the whole person (conscious and unconscious). Christ, too, is a symbol of the Self, an archetype of the Self. Where does that leave God the Father? Is he, too, an archetype of the Self, just like his son? Or is God the Father some sort of energy, permeating the universe? I’m surprised that when Jung made his famous remark — “I don’t believe, I know” — Freeman didn’t ask Jung to explain, to explain what he meant by “God.” www.ljhammond.com/phlit/2002-03.htm (L. James Hammond 2002)
Elsewhere Jung says that the hero is a symbol of the Self, of the whole person (conscious and unconscious). Christ, too, is a symbol of the Self, an archetype of the Self. Where does that leave God the Father? Is he, too, an archetype of the Self, just like his son? Or is God the Father some sort of energy, permeating the universe? I’m surprised that when Jung made his famous remark — “I don’t believe, I know” — Freeman didn’t ask Jung to explain, to explain what he meant by “God.”
www.ljhammond.com/phlit/2002-03.htm (L. James Hammond 2002)
It's good to have your counterpoints on these threads.
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