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Title: The Swiss Haven't Fought a War for 500 Years
Source: The American Scene
URL Source: http://theamericanscene.com/2009/05 ... -principle?commented=1#c017204
Published: May 30, 2009
Author: Conor Friedersdorf
Post Date: 2009-05-30 17:45:38 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 117
Comments: 4

The Swiss have not fought a war for nearly five hundred years, and are determined to know how so as not to.

…Switzerland is two times the size of New Jersey. New Jersey, by far, has the larger population. Nonetheless, there are six hundred and fifty thousand people in the Swiss Army. At any given time, most of them are walking around in street clothes or in blue from the collar down. They are a civilian army, a trained and practiced militia, ever ready to mobilize. They serve for thirty years. All six hundred and fifty thousand are prepared to be present at mobilization points and battle stations in considerably less than forty-eight hours.

…In the First World War, General Ulrich Wille led the Swiss to victory. Victory consisted of successfully avoiding the conflict. As someone put it, “We won by having no war.” In the Second World War, the victorious Swiss general was Henri Guisan, of the Canton de Vaud. There is a General Guisan Quai in Zurich, a Quai General Guisan in Geneva. In every part of Switzerland, there are streets and plazas and equestrian statues—there are busts on plinths overhung with banners and flags—doing honor to the general of an army that did not fight. Switzerland defends itself on what it calls the Porcupine Principle. You roll up into a ball and brandish your quills. In the words of Divisionnaire Tschumy, “The foremost battle is to prevent war with a price of entry that is too high. You must understand that there is no difference between the Swiss people and the Swiss Army. There is no difference in will. Economic, military—it’s the same thing. For seven hundred years, freedom has been the fundamental story of Switzerland, and we are not prepared to give it up now. We want to defend ourselves, which is not the same as fighting abroad. We want peace, but not under someone else’s condition.


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You should see the statue of Turtle on Turtle Island.

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

The Swiss Haven't Fought a War for 500 Years

Granted, and the record is quite commendable. However, it should be noted that, in addition to a substantial civilian defense, there is also little in the way of natural resources in Switzerland that make conquering it worthwhile.

So Switzerland is expensive to invade, with little return to make it worth invading even if invading was cheap. Both factors should be considered.

Countries with few resources tend to make their international specialty in the finance/banking sector, which Switzerland obviously is (or was) known for doing well. Maybe Turtle Island can do better.

Pinguinite  posted on  2009-05-30   18:08:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite, robnoel (#1)

Interesting.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-30   18:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Turtle (#0)

Yeah, but they sure caved to Napoleon without a fight.

A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're not talking real money

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2009-05-30   19:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Turtle (#0)

The Swiss have not fought a war for nearly five hundred years

And have profited grandly from all of them.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-05-30   19:33:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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