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Title: False Issue
Source: Lew Rockwell
URL Source: http://lewrockwell.com/reese/reese9-2.2.html
Published: May 31, 2009
Author: Charley Reese
Post Date: 2009-05-31 10:38:08 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 234
Comments: 11

What in the world is all this flap and hullabaloo about homosexual marriage licenses? Who cares?

This is another of those inconsequential red-herring issues designed to distract you while the politicians steal the country right out from under you. You had better worry about why one euro costs $1.19 rather than whether two homosexuals can get a piece of paper at the county courthouse.

Logically, to forbid something, one must demonstrate that the forbidden act will cause harm to others. OK. What harm will befall you and me and our children if two homosexuals get a marriage license? Well, I'm waiting. I'm sorry I have nothing to contribute. I can't think of any harm it will cause to anyone.

The fact that the state has intruded itself as a third party in every marriage does not add to the sanctity of the marriage. It is just a state license, like a license to be a plumber. As far as the state is concerned, a marriage license is a license for a civil union, since the state doesn't care whether a preacher or a notary public marries you.

"Civil union" is a political euphemism for marriage. It allows the politician to get votes from both sides. The politician can be in favor of civil union but not marriage. That's like a legislator being "personally opposed" to abortion but voting to legalize it. We already have a surplus of hypocrisy in this country. Let's not add to it with euphemisms.

Well, homosexual acts are against God's law, you say. OK, presumably God will enforce his own laws. You won't find in the Christian Bible any passage that says the responsibility for enforcing God's laws rests with the secular state. There are several acts denoted as sins that are not illegal.

Furthermore, Christianity is a personal religion, not a tribal or state religion. If you wish to be a Christian, then you have a personal obligation to obey the commands of the Christian religion. Whether someone else does or does not is of no concern to you. You can be a devout, scrupulously pure Christian in the midst of the most outrageous sinners. Your obligation is to obey God's commandments, not to compel someone else to do it.

Protestants in particular have a problem. It was the Protestants who said: "We don't need no Pope or priest to interpret the Bible. Everybody can read it and interpret it for themselves." Well, everybody includes homosexuals. Protestants have been arguing and even fighting over interpretations of the Scripture for centuries, but again, that is a private affair and no concern of the secular state.

Some people have acted as if state recognition of homosexual marriages will cause the whole of Christian morality to collapse. I hate to be a bearer of bad news, but traditional Christian morality collapsed in this country long before homosexuals came out of the closet. This is a secular, decadent, even freaky society, or have you not noticed? Watch MTV or go to the movies or watch prime-time television. The elites in this country definitely do not practice morality, Christian or otherwise. You are already living in the dawn of a new Dark Age – or whatever the 21st-century equivalent will turn out to be. Don't sweat homosexual marriage licenses. That is the least of our problems.

Since I'm not a plumber, the state's policy on plumbers' licenses is not an issue for me. Since I'm not a homosexual, the state's policy on homosexual marriage licenses is not an issue for me. But as a libertarian, I cannot for the life of me understand why so many people have an incurable itch to control other people's lives.

If homosexuals want a marriage license, give it to them. It won't have any effect whatsoever on our lives or the life of the nation or the course of world history. And a word to homophobes, most of whom are latent homosexuals themselves: Denying them a marriage license does not convert them into heterosexuals.

November 24, 2003

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

This is another of those inconsequential red-herring issues designed to distract you while the politicians steal the country right out from under you. You had better worry about why one euro costs $1.19 rather than whether two homosexuals can get a piece of paper at the county courthouse.

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It would be consequential if the liars who ran and were elected followed through with their promises to finally amend the Constitution making homosexual marriage illegal.

This is one of the reason I no longer affiliate with the GOP. They carried a majority in all forms of the government for six years and never lifted a finger to follow through with their promises.

They will pay for lying with the extinction of their party.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-05-31   11:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#1)

Why would we pollute the most important document of the land with such language?

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-31   13:07:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0)

What the author fails to recognize is that marraige will lead to adoption of children. This is what they are pining for step by step. since they cannot reproduce the want to adopt children.

MING THE MERCILESS  posted on  2009-05-31   13:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: MING THE MERCILESS, HAPPY2BME-4UM, Ada (#3)

Don't forget immigration rights for foreign "partners," laboratory-assisted conception, and new public educational curriculum entailing the family unit. This is a revolution without precedent. But it's been coming for a long time. If you don't like it, soon it will even be a hate crime to say so.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-31   13:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deasy (#4)

If you don't like it, soon it will even be a hate crime to say so.

Which, of course, is why the author is quite wrong IMO. These are the issues that define the underlying issue.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2009-05-31   13:55:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: IndieTX (#5) (Edited)

He's also wrong to call it a Christian issue. What would people who assume evolution is involved with our biological development want with subsidized same sex relationships? It makes no sense from the perspective of species survival. It also makes no sense from the perspective of representative government. If most people think same sex relationships are specialized lifestyle choices that are irrelevant to the ordinary nurturing of families and communities, then why would government be allowed to get involved at all? It's unfair to let the government express support for such relationships when most people don't think such relationships are beneficial to society.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-31   13:58:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ada (#0)

What harm will befall you and me and our children if two homosexuals get a marriage license? Well, I'm waiting. I'm sorry I have nothing to contribute. I can't think of any harm it will cause to anyone.

Adoption, immigration, insurance, laws concerning public accommodations.

Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-31   18:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deasy (#2)

Why would we pollute the most important document of the land with such language?

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It really is mute, since the US Constitution is just a GD piece of paper anyway.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-05-31   19:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#8) (Edited)

What makes it mute also obviates the need to pollute it with the banality of instructing our fellow citizens on the nature of biology. They'll continue to demand tribute from us for their foul ways, as if it is their right. It's not bad dilemma. If the Constitution as it is currently written were understood and upheld, the government could not be misused in such ways.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-31   19:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deasy (#9)

If the Constitution as it is currently written were understood and upheld, the government could not be misused in such ways.

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Agreed. It is a MIGHTY BIG IF.

Of all government documents created by man, the United States Constitution is inspired to breath liberty into a Republic more than any, IMO.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-05-31   19:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#10)

I happen to believe that the articles of confederation were superior. As I've been saying to anyone who will listen, we got here where we are today directly from the past.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-31   19:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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