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Title: KANSAS ABORTION DOCTOR MURDERED AT CHURCH
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URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/ ... ller-killed-abor_n_209504.html
Published: May 31, 2009
Author: Huffpo
Post Date: 2009-05-31 14:03:34 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 2392
Comments: 80

WICHITA, Kansas (AP)- Media reports say that abortion provider Dr. George Tiller has been shot and killed at his Wichita church.

Tiller has been among the few U.S. physicians performing late-term abortion. His clinic has repeatedly been the site of protests for about two decades.

He was acquitted in March of misdemeanor charges stemming from procedures he performed, but moments after the verdict the state's medical board announced it was investigating allegations against him that are nearly identical to those the jury had rejected.

Prosecutors had alleged that Tiller had in 2003 gotten second opinions from a doctor who was essentially an employee of his, not independent as state law requires, but a jury took only about an hour to find him not guilty of all 19 counts.

Tiller, who could have faced a year in jail for even one conviction, stared straight ahead as the verdicts were read, with one of his attorneys patting his shoulder after the decision on the final count was declared. His wife, seated across the courtroom, fought back tears and nodded. The couple declined to speak to reporters afterward.

Tiller, 67, has claimed that the prosecution was politically motivated. An attorney general who opposed abortion rights began the investigation into Tiller's clinic more than four years ago, but both his successor, who filed the criminal charges, and the current attorney general support abortion rights.

Tiller has been a favored target of anti-abortion protesters, and he testified that he and his family have suffered years of harassment and threats. His clinic was the site of the 1991 "Summer of Mercy" protests marked by mass demonstrations and arrests. His clinic was bombed in 1985, and an abortion opponent shot him in both arms in 1993.

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#10. To: christine (#0)

This is such good news. Thank God that piece of shit tiller is dead. The killer is a certified American Hero.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-05-31   20:33:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Old Friend (#10)

This is such good news. Thank God that piece of shit tiller is dead. The killer is a certified American Hero.

So you believe that the best way to deal with someone you dislike is to murder them in cold blood, in a church no less. Imagine my surprise. You are cheering cold-blooded murder, committed in a house of God. Just mind-boggling.

So you disagree with what the victim in this murder did. Fine. Whatever happened to "hate the sin, but love the sinner"? Whatever happened to the idea that you don't become what you hate while fighting that which you hate? Whatever happened to having reverence for a holy place? Nope, you cheer on the killer and claim they are "a certified American Hero". How horribly twisted.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2009-06-01   0:35:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Elliott Jackalope (#24)

So you believe that the best way to deal with someone you dislike is to murder them in cold blood, in a church no less. Imagine my surprise. You are cheering cold-blooded murder, committed in a house of God. Just mind-boggling.

You my friend (and I use that word loosely) are unamazingly stupid. I don't think murdering someone I disagree with is ok. That piece of shit has murdered over a thousand babies. Probably thousands. So I am quite content that the "man" is dead. You and your valuelessness and moraleless mind of stupidity don't seem capable of understanding that when you take someones innocent life that it is yours that needs to be forfeitted.

Your desire to make light of the crimes of a serial murderer and to stick up for him is breathtakingly evil. In your twisted soul you think that good people have to sit back and let the innocent be killed. You are a face of evil.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-06-01   6:07:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Old Friend (#30)

So the way to show that a murderer is wrong is to murder him. Brilliant. Now the person who killed him in cold blood in a church is himself a murderer. Where does it end?

You are so twisted up with hate and venom, all the while claiming to be a "good Christian". I pity you, I really do. If you're one of the "good guys" I'd really prefer to not see what a "bad guy" looks like.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2009-06-01   6:28:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Elliott Jackalope (#36)

So the way to show that a murderer is wrong is to murder him. Brilliant. Now the person who killed him in cold blood in a church is himself a murderer. Where does it end?

It is not murder when you kill the guilty. It is called frontier justice. It is what happens when the government doesn't live up to its responsibility.

Correct me if I am wrong but aren't you one of those hypocrits that are for letting people who murder babies get away with it but you are against the death penalty for people who kill adults. If i am correct. That would make you a sicko.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-06-01   6:31:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Old Friend (#37) (Edited)

Do you ever tire of calling people names? Do you ever grow weary of digging in your little box of venomous replies and finding labels you can stick on people? Do you ever find yourself confronting even the tiniest doubt that maybe, just maybe, you are not always right about everything and that maybe, just maybe you could possibly be wrong about something, anything, ever?

Your anger and venom are frightening enough. Your bottomless certainty about the righteousness of your moral proclamations is positively terrifying. And through all of this you proclaim yourself to be a "Christian". Amazing.

Putting labels on everyone and everything is easy, yes. It's convenient, it's handy, it's popular and often a crowd-pleaser. It's comforting to be able to take everything and slap a label on it, and then stuff it into a handy box labeled "bad". It's reflexive, it's visceral, it feels good. It makes a great substitute for actual thinking. And it does nothing to further understanding, does nothing to help solve anything. It just serves to fuel the fires of anger and retribution.

Well, no worries. The way this society and this economy are going, I think you and everyone like you will soon find themselves having all the anger and violence and retribution and hate and malice and death and destruction you can eat. I hope you get a bellyfull of it.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2009-06-01   6:46:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Elliott Jackalope (#42)

Your anger and venom are frightening enough. Your bottomless certainty about the righteousness of your moral proclamations is positively terrifying. And through all of this you proclaim yourself to be a "Christian". Amazing.

You support baby murder. You support a baby murderer. That is all anyone needs to know about Elliot Jackalope.

I'm glad you are frightened. It is good that abortion supporters are frightened. BOO.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-06-01   6:58:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Old Friend (#46)

Talking about killing babies why do you support Israel? Or don't you know that the Israel Government supports and pays for all abortions yes even late term.

robnoel  posted on  2009-06-01   7:01:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: robnoel (#49)

Talking about killing babies why do you support Israel? Or don't you know that the Israel Government supports and pays for all abortions yes even late term.

Your fucking stupid if you expect anyone to believe that. Now go prove it.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-06-01   7:02:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Old Friend (#51)

Your fucking stupid if you expect anyone to believe that. Now go prove it.

Ever hear about Google...this is to easy

Abortion in Israel: Terms of Termination

A 1977 law ensures a low-cost, and in some cases free, legal abortion to any woman who fills one of four criteria:

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She is under 18 or over 40 (cost to those in between: 1,500 shekels [$370]). *

She is carrying a fetus with a serious mental or physical defect (free). *

She claims that the fetus results from forbidden relations such as rape or incest (free) or, in the case of a married woman, that the baby is not her husband's (not free). Single women also fall under this clause, and they too must pay. *

She shows that by continuing the pregnancy, her physical or mental health would be damaged (free).

In 1980, a fifth criterion that allowed abortions for women living in economic hardship was abolished due to pressure from religious political parties.

A woman who seeks to terminate a pregnancy must appear before one of the 41 abortion committees operating in public and private hospitals around the country. These committees include three members — a physician whose field of expertise is obstetrics and gynecology; another physician who is either a family doctor, psychiatrist, internist or gynecologist, and a social worker. At least one woman must be present on each committee.

Six separate committees consider requests for termination when a fetus is beyond 24 weeks old. No hospitals in Jerusalem, however, will perform these abortions. In 1999, 19,674 applications out of 20,581 were approved (96%) and 18,785 pregnancies were terminated. In addition, 16,000 abortions were illegally performed in private doctors' clinics. In general, about 40,000 abortions are carried out in Israel every year. The Health Ministry approves about half of them, and private doctors perform the rest, without the supervision of the state and at the cost of thousands of shekels.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary....source/Health/abort1.html

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#65. To: robnoel (#54)

What does this have to do with anything here? Lame

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