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Title: (NY State) May to go out under a freeze watch
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URL Source: http://www.uticaod.com/archive/x117 ... to-go-out-under-a-freeze-watch
Published: May 31, 2009
Author: Observer-Dispatch
Post Date: 2009-05-31 14:11:08 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 407
Comments: 37

The National Weather Service has issued a freeze watch for many parts of New York from Sunday through Monday morning, including Oneida County.

Widespread frost and freeze conditions are possible tonight and into early Monday morning.

The region’s low temperature for today is expected to be about 36 degrees, which also is the record low temperature for May 31, according to WKTV meteorologists and weather archives.

The record was set in 1966.

A low of 50 degrees is expected for Monday.

The record low for June 1 is 31 degrees, which was set in 1945, according to weather archives.


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The science of global warming is over. It's freezing.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Don't worry JT. They can make most people think anything. There could be a blizzard in July and if Madison Avenue wanted Americans to think the earth was overheating due to carbon dioxide emissions it would be easily done.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-31   14:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deasy (#1)

Well dammit, they missed chipping me because I can still dead on through their BS!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-31   14:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Here in northern PA we will have frost tonite.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-05-31   14:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)

Widespread frost and freeze conditions are possible tonight and into early Monday morning.

Quote from a friend on climate forum:

If the international panel of experts led by NOAA and sponsored by NASA keeps making predictions, sooner or later nature will have to cooperate and they get to claim that their prediction was correct.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/29may_noaaprediction.htm?list122379

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/05/08/noaa-swpc-solar-cycle-24-prediction-update-released-may-8-2009/

Now they are predicting that Solar Cycle 24 will be weak and peak in May 2013. I don't understand how they think that they can make such predictions right now. The last time solar activity was similar was prior to around 1910. They really don't have much empirical data to base predictions on. I suspect that they are just guessing.

A normal cycle is approximately 11 years long. That suggests that from the minimum to the maximum would be 5.5 years. A prediction that we will go from end of an unusually long cycle 23, to the peak of cycle 24 (which hasn't really started yet) in 4 years doesn't seem reasonable but we will see.

A Cycle 24 peak around 2016 or beyond would seem more reasonable to me. That would suggest a Cycle 25 peak around 2027. If that cycle is as weak as predicted, then the end of this solar minimum could not occur until we are well into Cycle 26 with a peak as late as 2038. But the Dalton Minimum was three weak cycles in a row. If climate follows that pattern, the current minimum might not end until we (well you younger guys at least) are well into the 2040's.

When NASA's David Hathaway reported [05/10/2006] that the sun's conveyor belt had slowed to record levels, that suggested that the game had changed. Hathaway predicted that Cycle 24 would be strong and Cycle 25 would be very weak. I remember wondering at the time how cycle 24 could be so strong with the solar conveyor so slow.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/10may_longrange.htm

He said "We've never seen speeds so low." He also said "The slowdown we see now means that Solar Cycle 25, peaking around the year 2022, could be one of the weakest in centuries." Let's hope that he is wrong about that as well.

A team led by Mausumi Dikpata (National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) predicted in March of 2006:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/10mar_stormwarning.htm

"The next sunspot cycle [24] will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one," she says. If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958." Obviously that prediction was probably about as wrong as it could be.

An extended solar minimum suggests a long term cooling trend. That ought to be big news. Why isn't it?


A little known fact.... The first testicular guard "Jock strap & Cup" was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. It took 100 years for men to realize that the brain is also important.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-05-31   14:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: farmfriend (#4)

An extended solar minimum suggests a long term cooling trend. That ought to be big news. Why isn't it?

Because that is a natural phenomenon that we have no control over, therefore there is no public guilt associated with it. So instead, the intelligentsia gains power over the masses by talking up greenhouse gasses and other things that do have a guilt associated with them.

Sonovademocrat  posted on  2009-05-31   14:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Sonovademocrat (#5)

Can't tax the sun. Not yet anyway.


A little known fact.... The first testicular guard "Jock strap & Cup" was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. It took 100 years for men to realize that the brain is also important.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-05-31   14:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#3)

It's so windy here in Central PA, the roof on my double wide blew off sending my bible into the creek. Naturally I'm angry, and I expect a bout of bitterness to follow the frost which is coming this evening.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-31   14:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: farmfriend (#4)

Excellent material, thanks. This global warming nonsense is the biggest load of poop ever laid at the feet of the American people.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-31   14:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

It's so windy here in Central PA, the roof on my double wide blew off sending my bible into the creek. Naturally I'm angry, and I expect a bout of bitterness to follow the frost which is coming this evening.

Be warned, I have read this as being terroristic and in full reference to President Obama, therefore I have notified, the Secret Service, the FBI, DHS and your parole officer.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-05-31   15:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#4)

A prediction that we will go from end of an unusually long cycle 23, to the peak of cycle 24 (which hasn't really started yet) in 4 years doesn't seem reasonable but we will see.

Technically, it has. I believe it was over a week ago there was a sunspot in the northern hemisphere. They come in pairs with opposite polarities. The polarity of this sunspot pair was reversed relative to the previous spot that had been sighted, thus marking the beginning of the new cycle.

Sun is still pretty quiet today, as you can see. If this quiet period goes on much longer, we'll soon be about two standard deviations out from the mean as far as cycle length goes.

Looks kinda spooky, don't it?

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randge  posted on  2009-05-31   15:01:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#9)

therefore I have notified, the Secret Service, the FBI, DHS and your parole officer

I fully understand your concern, Citizen.

You have learned quickly and well.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-31   15:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#9)

I have notified, the Secret Service, the FBI, DHS and your parole officer.

Cyni, it is requested that you lay off JT's parole officer who has his hands full. His message box is runneth over, his office door is locked and he's not returning call for the next few weeks.

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randge  posted on  2009-05-31   15:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

Jethro...

in·for·mant (n-fôrmnt) n.

1. a. One that gives information. b. One who informs against others; an informer.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-05-31   15:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: randge, Jethro tull (#12)

Cyni, it is requested that you lay off JT's parole officer who has his hands full.

Agreed...

Just found out that Jethros parole officer is assigned to Jethro only as a full time case worker.

Now you see why our taxes are so high.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-05-31   15:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#14)

Poor bastard.

Oh well, somebody has to do these things.

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randge  posted on  2009-05-31   15:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#14)

If I were Jethro I would be suspicious of any new neighbor without kids or lawn mower. And if funny looking little antenna on roof.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-05-31   15:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

It's freezing.

I HATE hot humid weather. If global cooling makes summers better, bring it on.

I'll just bundle up in winter like I always do. Cold doesn't bother me much at all.

Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs...that's Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-05-31   15:28:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Turtle (#17)

We have a bounty on turtles.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-05-31   15:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#18)

It ain't much though.

You can make more collecting soda cans & beer bottles.

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randge  posted on  2009-05-31   15:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: randge. Cynicom (#19) (Edited)

You mess with Turtle and he'll sic the Horrid Hell Hounds of Abba Dabba Do on you.

First I have to figure out what they are, since I just them up right now

Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs...that's Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-05-31   15:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Turtle (#20)

You know we are quaking in our boots, Turtle.

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randge  posted on  2009-05-31   15:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

The science of global warming is over. It's freezing.

GODDAMMIT, JT! YOUR ATTITUDE OF LATE IS REALLY MAKING MY INTERNET BROWSING EXPERIENCE UNCOMFORTABLE.

DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THE MESSIAH GETS HIS CARBON TAXES ALL OF OUR CLIMATE PROBLEMS WILL BE OVER, THE SAME WAY HIS CIGARETTE TAXES FIXED HEALTHCARE?

GODDAMMIT, WHERE'S MY TATTLE-TALE HOTLINE PHONEBOOK?

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-05-31   16:01:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

The one part of The Day After Tomorrow I liked was seeing that third world outpost under a glacier.

Just substitute the word "entropy" wherever liberals write "diversity" and everything makes sense.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-31   16:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Excellent material, thanks. This global warming nonsense is the biggest load of poop ever laid at the feet of the American people.

Well cap and trade was designed to control the energy markets and the carbon tax was to fund the NWO.


A little known fact.... The first testicular guard "Jock strap & Cup" was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. It took 100 years for men to realize that the brain is also important.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-05-31   16:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: randge, Jethro Tull (#10)

Technically, it has. I believe it was over a week ago there was a sunspot in the northern hemisphere. They come in pairs with opposite polarities. The polarity of this sunspot pair was reversed relative to the previous spot that had been sighted, thus marking the beginning of the new cycle.

The first cycle 24 spot was early last year but cycle 23 spots still dominate when there are spots. The official start of cycle 24 won't be until there are more 24 spots than 23.

Here are three really good web sites. The first is by a Finnish climatologist who focuses on the sun.

One possible explanation for the cyclicity in the Sun.

Sunspots: The Gleissberg cycle.

Solar Cycle 24


A little known fact.... The first testicular guard "Jock strap & Cup" was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. It took 100 years for men to realize that the brain is also important.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-05-31   17:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Turtle (#17)

I HATE hot humid weather. If global cooling makes summers better, bring it on.

I'll just bundle up in winter like I always do. Cold doesn't bother me much at all.

My kinda man!


A little known fact.... The first testicular guard "Jock strap & Cup" was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. It took 100 years for men to realize that the brain is also important.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-05-31   17:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: farmfriend (#26)

My kinda man!

Turtle is a Manly Man, even if he does the Nutcracker Ballet.

Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs...that's Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-05-31   17:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Esso, all (#22)

Oh my. It looks like someone didn't get hired for that shovel ready project Mr. O'Bongo promised the masses. And I am sorry about your unpleasant browsing experience. Things haven't been the same since the Os ripped off their masks and donned their berets and Che Guevara T-shirts.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-31   17:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: farmfriend (#24)

Ah, so cap-and-trade helps government, not the planet?

My, my have we become cynical.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-31   17:53:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

Hope, Change
My dog's got mange
Change, Hope
Rope-A-Dope!

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-05-31   18:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Turtle (#20) (Edited)

You mess with Turtle and he'll sic the Horrid Hell Hounds of Abba Dabba Do on you.

Yeah, your #1 "gurl" looks kinda like a Horrid Hell Hound but I suspect you better not call her that. I imagine Big Bertha would not like that at all.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-31   19:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#29)

My, my have we become cynical.

LOL a while back yes.


A little known fact.... The first testicular guard "Jock strap & Cup" was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. It took 100 years for men to realize that the brain is also important.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-05-31   19:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

Things haven't been the same since the Os ripped off their masks and donned their berets and Che Guevara T-shirts.

I'll believe that when the walls are Swiss cheesed from the firing squads executing banksters and war profiteering capitalists.

As it is they're getting the treatment we've come to expect from govt, and their criminal offenses are not open to misinterpretation or misunderstanding.

Except for the Oreo packaging Obama is just another former member of the elite rich white millionaires' club, and, and he'd have to go to truly exceptional lengths to top Bush's Medicare and prescription drug gift to voters.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-05-31   20:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: farmfriend (#25)

Thanks for the information.

I'm still getting a handle on these things, and don't really have the mechanics of all this down yet. Sorry for the misinformation, I misinterpreted some things I found on the net.

The sun is really a big, wierd, fascinating and awsome thing. Kudos to your posts.

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randge  posted on  2009-05-31   21:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: randge (#34)

Kudos to your posts.

Thanks!


A little known fact.... The first testicular guard "Jock strap & Cup" was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. It took 100 years for men to realize that the brain is also important.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-05-31   22:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: James Deffenbach (#31)

Yeah, your #1 "gurl" looks kinda like a Horrid Hell Hound but I suspect you better not call her that. I imagine Big Bertha would not like that at all.

Quit trying to foist your fat mama girlfriend on me. She likes you, not me.

Blech.

Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs...that's Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-06-01   7:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Turtle (#36)

Yeah, we all know she is all yours Turtle. What with you being the lady killer you are and all. She's way too much woman for me. >(;^{]

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-06-01   11:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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