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Title: The Execution Of George Tiller
Source: Rense
URL Source: http://rense.com/general86/execution.htm
Published: Jun 4, 2009
Author: Anthony C. LoBaido
Post Date: 2009-06-04 13:00:03 by Original_Intent
Keywords: abortion, murder, infanticide, satanism
Views: 175
Comments: 15

The Execution Of George Tiller By Anthony C. LoBaido 6-4-9

The recent summary execution of abortion doctor George Tiller because of his late term abortion career raises many questions

If you are against abortion -- especially late term abortion -- because it's murder, then how can you murder George Tiller? That makes you like him. It's nutty.

Yet may we ask why are babies killed/terminated in the latest stages of their development?

What happend to that ancient Greek oath doctors must take to "do no harm ..."

What exactly is a "D&X" abortion -- where the brain tissue of a baby being born is sucked out of its skull? This is the United States of America? As in, "God bless America?"

What about the use of the fetal tissue from these archetype abortions for medical experimentation, cloning, DNA patents on the human genome and/or disease research by Big Pharma? How and where does that fit into the whole late term abortion issue, if at all?

How much money is involved? Hundreds of millions? Billions? Trillions? None?

How could George Tiller do this and still go to church?

Who would go to church along with him and sit by his side without asking him to stop doing this? (I've read that Nazi murderers in World War II Germany also went to church on Sundays).

Why are people "shocked" that he was summarily put to death for what he was doing? Are they serious? If he was doing this in let's say, 1950, there would have been thousands upon thousands of people lining up to take him out ... what's led us down this slippery slope?

Just who defends what George Tiller did for a living? What kind of people are they? They're all over the Internet defending him. Politicians in the Democratic Party ... doctors who went to medical school ... they're everywhere it seems ... no shame, brazen even. What is the rationale for their viewpoint? "Nobody's right if everybody's wrong," as the old song says.

The truly amazingly great Mr. Obama, while still serving in the Illinois State Legislature, was deeply involved in a late term abortion political controversy. Why do the Democrats always seem to get caught up in these things? Do they support this in their heart of hearts? What drives them to be involved? How can they sleep at night?

Are they confused? Sold out? Is this a "must do" tenant of Satanism --blood sacrifice? They're uninformed about what's really going on? King Herrod complex? What ...? Probably they see all abortion as a zero sum game and they feel they have to defend all of it or none of it.

Why haven't the Christian Right and Republicans been able to put an end to late term abortion since they had control of the Congress between 1994 and 2006? President Bush Jr. to his credit made late term abortion illegal through a Presidential Directive. But how long will that last? And why should it come down to such edicts in the first place? Why did/do Obama and Hillary and Bill Clinton support this? What stake do they personally have in it, if any?

How could this happen right in Kansas, smack in the middle of the Bible Belt?

What does all of this say about America, the West and the future of the world?

How do Muslims and Islam view America when it tolerates late term abortion?

While untold millions in the U.S. and around the world no doubt believe the long-awaited execution of George Tiller is a great day for America and the unborn, the fact remains that Judgment Day for George Tiller won't stop abortion. His execution is not a "victory" in any recognizable sense of the word.

It will lead to a crackdown against the anti-abortion movement. Yet look at the price Elijah Lovejoy paid fighting slavery in St. Louis ... we've been down this road before.

Sure, George Tiller had his chances to repent, but only God is fit to judge him. There are better ways to oppose his particular brand of evil. Those who support George Tiller from the White House on down show they have lost their minds and their souls. They deserve our pity. They are so, so lost. Not only do they tolerate late term abortion, they endorse it and perhaps celebrate it.

What's wrong with them? What has driven them to the point of evil and insanity? What drives America to seed Iraq with depleted uranium? What drove the killers of poor James Byrd, Abeer Hamza and Channon Christian and her boyfriend? Or even poor Matthew Shepherd? People have become monsters and it is an infection you can see in every race, nation and culture.

Yet just because they are lost today doesn't mean God won't change their hearts tomorrow. Just look at how the Roe vs. Wade woman who originally brought that case to the Supreme Court is now protesting abortion with all her might. Just because we've given up on people it doesn't mean God has given up on them. Mr. Obama might wake up tomorrow with a restored mind and oppose abortion. We can't rule this out. Didn't God send a dream to the Pharoah? Mr. Obama did not personally create this kind of evil. It's been developing for decades. We should pray for this man, that God might help him see the light.

Did you know the black to white abortion rate in the U.S. is 8 to 1? Any protest? Gee ... I wonder why? Could this be the real face of white supremacy? Again, for every one white baby aborted, 8 black babies are aborted. Where are the great Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and even Nelson Mandela on this issue? Or have they been told flat out to simply "shut up" about it? Or do they support this in their heart of hearts? Personally I find that hard to believe.

It should be clear by now that only prayer and national repentance can stop late term abortion, and all abortion.

As Steve Forbes said, to stop abortion, "you have to change the culture."

We must pray with all of our might! Violence is not the answer ... For every abortion doctor that is summarily put to death, thousands of new ones will be trained. That's no solution. It's certainly not "Christian" to kill them. Jesus taught that we must love our enemies. Murder is murder, plain and simple.

However, it should now be painfully clear to those who do what George Tiller did to the unborn, and support him in their hearts, that they are now and forever will be forced to live in terror that the very same thing might well happen to them. And that countless millions of Americans will silently cheer their demise.

Whether they admit this or not, this is objective reality.

Perhaps that's a branch of the very same terror they've brought to the unborn via their late term abortions? Who can say for sure?

But you know, we all live in terror to a certain degree. Look at the Asian Tsunami, Katrina, Rita, 9/11 and so forth. Is there any linkage to the terror which the unborn are facing in the U.S. and around the world to the terror we read about in the daily newspaper? Again, who can say for sure?

Closer to home, can the DHS root out the would-be killers of abortion doctors? Not likely. How would you do such a thing? Anyone can strike, anywhere, at any time. Like in Baghdad ... you never know who will be taken out, when or where. It's absolutely terrifying ... which is the whole idea I suppose. Perhaps it's time America split up over issues like abortion, because it doesn't look like the two sides can coexist.

Who can say when this kind of evil was spawned? The Tower of Babel? Ancient Rome? The French Revolution? World War I? Woodstock? The age of globalization? Whom do you blame ... Christians themselves? The culture? Public schools? The (lack of) role models? Democrats? Republicans?

May we humbly seek God in prayer on our knees for the answers we so desperately need. For those you can see (and even Ray Charles can see what's happening these days) America is lost, defeated on every battlefield, out of borrowed money, culturally in the sewer and helplessly delusional. We wage war on our own Boy Scouts and the Air Force Academy while handing our children, an the unborn, over to Satan himself.

As such, those who weep for the loss of George Tiller serve as a prime example of our craven, insane delusions. Tiller was a mass murderer no better than Ted Bundy and perhaps worse. Period. Those who cheered him, supported him and now weep for him are the lowest form of oxygen stealing parasites imaginable. They are a disgrace to America and without a doubt criminals against all humanity. They might as well support Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Winnie Mandela. (In various ways, these people were supported and even celebrated by some in the West).

It took a long time for America to get in this condition. However, we are all only one decision away from turning back to God.

There is still hope for America and the world but only if we live our lives in a way that seeks to bring God glory and serve others. In order to do this we must seek self examination, repentance and sanctification.

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#1. To: Old Friend (#0)

Did you know the black to white abortion rate in the U.S. is 8 to 1? Any protest? Gee ... I wonder why? Could this be the real face of white supremacy? Again, for every one white baby aborted, 8 black babies are aborted. Where are the great Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and even Nelson Mandela on this issue?

This can't stand. On its face it's blatant racism. We can either work harder to knock whites up, or reduce the black female population with retroabortion (a controversial new procedure that gets post pubescent black females before they can begin the spawning process).

FWIW.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-06-04   13:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Dr. George Tiller killed more people than Dr. Mengele. True story.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-06-04   13:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#0)

We must pray with all of our might! Violence is not the answer ... For every abortion doctor that is summarily put to death, thousands of new ones will be trained. That's no solution. It's certainly not "Christian" to kill them. Jesus taught that we must love our enemies. Murder is murder, plain and simple.

However, it should now be painfully clear to those who do what George Tiller did to the unborn, and support him in their hearts, that they are now and forever will be forced to live in terror that the very same thing might well happen to them. And that countless millions of Americans will silently cheer their demise.

bump to excellent essay.

Perhaps it's time America split up over issues like abortion, because it doesn't look like the two sides can coexist.

how???????

The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama

christine  posted on  2009-06-04   13:35:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine, Peppa, farmfriend, Cynicom, CadetD, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, Kamala, HOUNDDAWG, James Deffenbach, lodwick, litus, Pinguinite, ratcat, Deasy, FormerLurker, Itistoolate, HAPPY2BME-4UM, RefinersFire, all (#0)

While I have a few minor points of disagreement (I do not fell the need to repent an activity that I reject, find abhorrent and hellish - so-called D&X needs to be confronted and named for what it is - a very gruesome and repellant form of infanticide) in the main I found this to a very thoughtful piece.

He is right in that the culture needs to be changed. To do that one must inform and get people to look at the reality. Only a psychotic sociopath could support "late term abortion". I reject it from the innermost core of my being. I think it would be the same for any normal man. It is our job to protect and defend, not murder in a vile and despicable way the most vulnerable.

While I disagree with manner of Dr. Tiller's execution I shall not shed a tear for the late Dr. Lectre.

Late Term abortion, and abortion in general, is something which has been sold and driven into the culture by a minority of psychotics. The very same eugenicists who are attempting to "cull" the human population of this planet down to themselves and a few "useful" slaves. Again you trace the philosophy and justification back to that secular perversion called Psychiatry as it is the Psychiatrists who devise these programs to sell their hellish vision of the world. One can find their handiwork now at all points in the culture - the promulgation of perverted sex, drugs, and yes, abortion. The destruction of the family has been one of the openly stated goals of organized Psychiatry since at least the 1950's. Know your enemy.

"We can choose to use our growing knowledge to enslave people in ways never dreamed of before, depersonalizing them, controlling them by means so carefully selected that they will perhaps never be aware of their loss of personhood." Carl R. Rodgers, Former President of the American Psychological Association (APA)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

"The family is now one of the major obstacles to improved mental health, and hence should be weakened, if possible, so as to free individuals and especially children from the coercion of family life." International Congress on Mental Health, London, 1948

"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It’s up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well – by creating the international child of the future" Psychiatrist Chester M. Pierce, Address to the Childhood International Education Seminar, 1973

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-06-04   13:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#2)

Dr. George Tiller killed more people than Dr. Mengele. True story.

That would not surprise me in the least. These psychotic "doctors" are promoted and protected in order to push another underlying agenda of dehumanizing the culture and destroying individual liberty.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-06-04   13:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#0)

What happend to that ancient Greek oath doctors must take to "do no harm ..."

My understanding, from discussions with a few doctors in their 40's and 50's is that they no longer take such an oath unless they choose to.

There is no requirement to do so.

IDon'tThinkSo  posted on  2009-06-04   13:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#4)

"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It’s up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well – by creating the international child of the future" Psychiatrist Chester M. Pierce, Address to the Childhood International Education Seminar, 1973

that one is shocking.

The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama

christine  posted on  2009-06-04   13:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#5)

if bush gave a presidential directive against late term abortions, how is it that tiller was still performing them ?

The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama

christine  posted on  2009-06-04   13:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#4)

Continuing my reading I ran into this quote which I think instructive in the current thread:

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.." J. Krishnamurti

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-06-04   13:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#8)

if bush gave a presidential directive against late term abortions, how is it that tiller was still performing them ?

It only cut off Federal funding. It was not within his power to make it "illegal".

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-06-04   13:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#7)

"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It’s up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well – by creating the international child of the future" Psychiatrist Chester M. Pierce, Address to the Childhood International Education Seminar, 1973

that one is shocking.

Pyshiatry, in the main, is profoundly anti-liberty, anti-libertarian, and dehumanizing. That is my primary reasoning in finding it repugnant. It steals from the individual their most precious possession - the freedom to think one's own thoughts. The Psychiatric manipulation of our culture is pervasive and most people do not see it because it is implanted in the media, government, and even our schools. Oh, and if you thought that one was shocking try this one:

"We need a program of psychosurgery for political control of our society. The purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the given norm can be surgically mutilated. The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. . . Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. . . . We must electronically control the brain. Someday armies and generals will be controlled by electronic stimulation of the brain." Dr. Jose M.R. Delgado, Director of Neuropsychiatry at Yale University Medical School, Congressional Record, No. 26, Vol. 118, Feb. 24, 1974. Delgado was reported as part of the "MK-Ultra" CIA mind-control program.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-06-04   13:51:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: IDon'tThinkSo (#6)

What happend to that ancient Greek oath doctors must take to "do no harm ..."

My understanding, from discussions with a few doctors in their 40's and 50's is that they no longer take such an oath unless they choose to.

There is no requirement to do so.

In my reading it is my understanding that, that is true. Medical Schools no longer require the "Hippocratic Oath" as part of graduation. This frees doctors from such obsolete notions as "good and evil" and allows them to commit all manner of "treatment" regardless of whether it benefits the patient or not.

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-06-04   13:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Original_Intent (#12)

And some patients, especially little ones who can't fight back, get "treated to death." But when that happens they go on to a much better place than we live in and certainly a LOT better than the alleged "doctor" who murdered the baby will go to.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-06-04   15:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#11)

"We need a program of psychosurgery for political control of our society. The purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the given norm can be surgically mutilated. The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. . . Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. . . . We must electronically control the brain. Someday armies and generals will be controlled by electronic stimulation of the brain."

almost unbelievably evil...it sounds like it's from a fictional book or movie.

The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama

christine  posted on  2009-06-04   17:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#0)

As a Christian, I believe that life is sacred, even Teller’s.

With that said - the problem for Teller is, that I am not everyone --- meaning that there is always someone who is willing to kill when they perceive that life is being taken unjustly – law or no law.

Jesus said “live by the sword – die by the sword”.

Well, Teller swung his medical sword a thousand times, destroying viable babies!

Law or no law, just or not – Tiller was begging to die by someone else’s sword.

On the scales of justice between right things and wrong things, some right things are more weighty then others ------ meaning that we have to make a choice between two right things.

Without question, a viable healthy child’s life, inside his mother’s womb, carries more moral weight then the right of a mother and her doctor to decide to take that life.

In idealistic Christian philosophy there is no unambiguous wiggle room in this matter – life is sacred, is sacred, is sacred!

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-06-04   18:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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