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Title: MUST READ/HEAR: Spirit of Tiananmen Square Lives: Survivor
Source: Blogs at NPR
URL Source: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way ... 6/tiananmen_square_legacy.html
Published: Jun 4, 2009
Author: Frank James
Post Date: 2009-06-04 21:04:38 by Deasy
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Poster note: the man interviewed in the audio segment posted at the end of this story talks about how good it feels to address one's fellow citizens on the things that matter most, namely the yearning for freedom. Please listen when you have a chance. I think too few of our fellow Americans understand why we speak up and write about our frustrations with growing signs of tyranny. The desire to be heard and to articulate anger and resentment at oppression is common to all people who love freedom. This man, Zhou, expressed this so well that I had to point out how much in common I feel with him.


When we think of Tiananmen Square, we think of the idealism and courage of the students and workers who confronted the might of the Chinese government.


Zhou Fengsuo

Zhou Fengsuo at a 1996 Tiananmen Square observance in Washington D.C. RICHARD ELLIS/AFP/Getty Images


They ultimately lost their confrontation with after Chinese soldiers killed hundreds. The true death toll still isn't known on this, the 20th anniversary.

But truth crushed the earth will rise again, as Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. said, and that certainly is the sense one gets from listening to All Things Considered host Melissa Block's interview with Zhou Fengsuo, who was a student-leader at Tiananmen and now lives in San Francisco.

Zhou recalls the exhilarating days leading to the deadly climax, a period when university students and workers by the tens of thousands flooded into the square to demand an end to official corruption. He remembers how relatively peaceful the vast crowd was.

He also recalls his sense of foreboding when it became clear the military was about to crackdown, the fear when they finally did and the horror of leaving the square only to see 40 dead bodies, some of them students like himself, lying on a street outside a hospital.

But the spirit of Tiananmen wasn't killed, Zhou told Melissa.

An excerpt from their discussion:

MELISSA: When you think back on Tiananmen it's a chapter that's been almost completely erased from Chinese history. There's a whole generation of Chinese young people now who don't know anything about what happened. What does that say to you about the legacy of Tiananmen Square?


ZHOU: The dreams are still there, the dreams for a country with freedom, where people can live with dignity is still there. In particular, the call for end of corruption still resonates among most Chinese today. Whenever they want to fight corruption, they will think about 1989.


In fact this declaration of personal wealth of officials, every year people keep pushing for it. Even this year in official people's parliament, they're pushing for it. But everyone knows where it's from. It's from 20 years ago...

Although the facts are basically cleansed completely, every year I get a lot of requests. Actually recently I had the honor of talking to students who are still in college, mainland college now.

MELISSA: In China?

ZHOU: In China. And I was really surprised by their reaction when I just talked about the facts of what I went through. They all knew the government did something terrible but they didn't know the full detail. They wanted to ask me questions after my speech. They kept me two hours...

Every year I get a lot of requests for more true facts of what happened. If we just send in the facts people can just draw the conclusion themselves. Most of them are still students. That's why I think the government is so afraid today. It's the power of truth and justice. They cannot overcome it by economic development or their military muscle. They have to show respect for its own people to be truly respected internally and externally.

Zhou was imprisoned without trial for a year after Tiananmen, then eventually left China for the U.S. where he entered business school.

In a piece of irony Zhou, who made it out of Tiananmen Square unscathed, was beaten by pro-Chinese counter demonstrators last year when he attended a San Francisco protest against China's hosting of the Beijing Olympics timed for the Olympic torch's passage through the city.


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Audio at this article.

All Things Considered, June 4, 2009 · Thursday is the 20th anniversary of the massacre at Tiananmen Square. On that day, the Chinese military cracked down on pro-democracy student protesters. Scores of people were killed. Zhou Fengsuo, one of the student leaders present on that day, offers his insight.
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#1. To: Deasy (#0)

Those students put their asses on the line for freedom risking a certain stomping by the communist party. They were braver in the face of brutal tyranny than Americans are right now facing successive tyrannicl administrations here.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-06-04   21:11:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#1)

Some of them are the new face of China's economic powerhouse now.

Deasy  posted on  2009-06-04   21:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tom007, robnoel (#2)

Deasy  posted on  2009-06-04   21:30:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

Deasy  posted on  2009-06-04   21:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Obama, Sotomayor (#4)

You who would slowly disarm the American people in the name of "tolerance" should watch the above video.

Deasy  posted on  2009-06-04   21:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deasy, all (#5)

Most of us remember watching this in real time. This is the regime we passed NAFTA to buy from and outsource to. Traitors in our midst.

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IndieTX  posted on  2009-06-04   23:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: IndieTX (#6) (Edited)

As we were nationalizing GM, I was thinking how ironic it was that Bush #1 and Clinton promised us that managed trade would save jobs. And I was also thinking about how just last year, most presidential candidates were saying they'd support NAFTA, because it had protected jobs.

Deasy  posted on  2009-06-05   22:39:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deasy (#0)

thanks for the post. i heard katherine albrecht discussing tienamin yesterday and she also referenced an excellent article from the epoch times on this topic. she said she linked it on her site. Being in tienamin square a few months ago they have huge photos of mao at the center of the square. i had not realized that tienamin square was at the far end of the forbidden city so we came across it quite by accident. then a 'bejing tea scammer' attempted (unsuccessfully) to engage us in a tea scam. i will post the video of it sometime when after upload it. the commie bitch was very upset when i refused to go have tea with her and refused to give her money after her 'free tour'. there are a lot of vids online by people who have been victims of the bejing tea scam. they are pretty slick but i am very cheap and do not like tea anyway. ;-) Not to sidetrack the topic, but that was my experience in tienamin square.

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