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Title: Cal Thomas: Unions, overregulation drove American Dream into a ditch
Source: SacBee
URL Source: http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/story/1920481.html
Published: Jun 5, 2009
Author: Cal Thomas
Post Date: 2009-06-05 16:06:01 by farmfriend
Keywords: None
Views: 1590
Comments: 137

Cal Thomas: Unions, overregulation drove American Dream into a ditch

By Cal Thomas
Published: Friday, Jun. 5, 2009 - 12:00 am | Page 19A

See the USA in your Chevrolet

America is asking you to call.

Drive your Chevrolet through the USA

America's the greatest land of all.

Fifty years ago, those words set to music each week on NBC's "The Dinah Shore Show" reflected an America and an automobile industry that is no more. That time and that industry were laid to rest this week when General Motors filed for bankruptcy and the government effectively nationalized GM and Chrysler after wasting billions of our tax dollars on a failed bailout.

Despite disclaimers from President Barack Obama that the government doesn't want to be in the car business, it is hard to see what it has bought with our tax dollars other than two of what used to be known as "the big three."

Government by default or determination will choose the types of cars the companies it owns will make. Government will buy a lot of them because not enough customers will unless they are made offers they can't refuse, not by a car salesman in a loud sport coat, but by a government bureaucrat in a suit.

It's difficult to let go of an American dream. When I was growing up, every kid wanted to drive his own car. Our frugal parents (who had just one car) would let us drive it, but with restrictions, including a set time to bring the car back in the same pristine condition in which we found it.

A car was a rite of passage. It conveyed independence and status.

Each September we salivated at the prospect of new models. There was always a big buildup and we'd go to the Chevy (or Ford) dealer early on the morning they were for sale. Sometimes they would be covered with sheets and a dramatic unveiling would take place. TV commercials would show parts of new models in a kind of striptease before their debut.

Some believe the models between 1955 and 1959, especially the 1957 Chevy Bel Air and the 1958 Impala, are unsurpassed, though Ford devotees have their Mustangs and T-Birds. Pontiac's GTO and some Dodge and Plymouth models were also great.

Chrysler had the Imperial, which resembled a boat with running lights, and the New Yorker for "old rich people." And then there was the one beyond our reach, but not beyond our dreams: the Cadillac. The song "Pink Cadillac" became a hit, in part because we saw Elvis in one.

America's relationship with its cars has rightly been called a love affair. Though some have tried to replicate the smell of a new car in spray cans, there is nothing quite like the feeling of sinking into new faux leather and later, if you could afford it, the real thing.

Much if not all of those thrills will be gone, thanks to greed by the unions, government overregulation and bad management. The customers, who once were always right, have been cheated.

All one has to do is look at government-made cars to see they are about as attractive as government art, government architecture, or many other things government does poorly. The Skoda (when the Czechoslovakia communist party made them – they're nice now thanks to free-market capitalism) had its own jokes: "How much is a Skoda worth with a full tank of gas?" Answer: "Twice as much."

East Germany's Trabant, a major polluter, was little more than a two-cycle engine encased in the thinnest veneer, and the old Soviet Union cars were about as appealing as a Siberian winter. These are the kinds of cars governments have produced.

Obama says all of those laid-off autoworkers will have to "sacrifice" for the sake of their children and grandchildren. So much for their American Dream. If a Republican president had said that, he would have been denounced as insensitive and uncaring.

On a highway, or a road along the levee

Performance is sweeter

Nothing can beat her

Life is completer in a Chevy.

Not anymore.

Bye-bye Miss American Pie;

drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry.

This is the day GM died.

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#2. To: farmfriend (#0)

Unions,

Cal was not around when ...Henry Ford...had men shot for wanting a piece of the dream.

By the way Cal, Ford like the Rockefellers et al, left BILLIONS behind to try and engineer a better society.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-06-05   16:56:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#2)

Why the hell is it always the unions fault and never management?

Lady X  posted on  2009-06-05   17:16:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lady X (#3)

Why the hell is it always the unions fault and never management?

Ever try and get a teacher or a cop fired? The unions defend the indefensible.

mirage  posted on  2009-06-05   20:31:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mirage (#9)

Without unions, good or bad, there would never have been a middle class in America.

True, unions protect the malingerers as well as the hard working employee.

What is the alternative??? We would go back to child labor, and many of the elite of this country are well know for having made their fortunes from the backs of children.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-06-05   20:42:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#10)

True, unions protect the malingerers as well as the hard working employee.

Like child molesters and embezzlers. They have long outlived most of their usefulness.

True, they are needed in some professions like mining and blasting where there is serious chance of injury, but most union members are Government employees these days.

So tell me, with the vast majority (read: 90%+) of union members being Government employees, are they truly still needed to protect the IRS agent who just stole your house, the cop who planted a bag of weed on your child, and the teacher who was caught sleeping with your son?

mirage  posted on  2009-06-05   22:28:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mirage (#23)

So tell me, with the vast majority (read: 90%+) of union members being Government employees, are they truly still needed to protect the IRS agent who just stole your house, the cop who planted a bag of weed on your child, and the teacher who was caught sleeping with your son?

Having once been a Union member and employed by the government, I have a little knowledge on that subject.

In the olde days we had no union, needed none and then after 1960 there abouts, things changed, the government was setting all the rules and we had no recourse.

It was for self protection that Unions came about.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-06-05   22:37:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Cynicom, farmfriend, Tom007, lodwick, all (#25)

It was for self protection that Unions came about.

That needs to be reinforced over and over.

All of the unionism of the late 1800's and on into the 1900's was for self protection.

People who don't read history don't get it.

The wages were awful.

The working conditions were worse.

Pensions? Fat chance. As soon as you were too old, or too injured, you were discarded like a broken toy.

8 hour day?

You worked 12 (or longer), for subsistence wages, and overtime was never paid.

The first breakthrough was on government jobs when the standard workday was reduced to 10 hours and half days on SATURDAY. The only day off was Sunday.

Government Troops were used to massacre striking workers.

As were hired Mercenaries such as Pinkerton. They were able to murder with impunity.

Unions in turn became corrupted by success and by the Mob, (the Teacher's Unions have been corrupted by other agencies which mean the common man, and woman, no good, but that does not mean that honest unions did not serve a function, a valuable one, to curb abusive management and protect the legitimate interests and welfare of the workers.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-06-06   23:17:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Original_Intent (#81)

All of the unionism of the late 1800's and on into the 1900's was for self protection.

Yes, and they won. But most unions nowadays are white-collar Government workers. Tell me what protections a Network Engineer requires, please, and I will tell you how those Unions these days screw over their members.

But like most "causes" - once the battle is won, they don't comprehend "maintenance mode" and push things beyond where they need to go and actually make things WORSE.

The Civil Rights movement is a perfect example of this. From equal rights to special rights.

mirage  posted on  2009-06-07   13:41:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: mirage, Original Intent (#95)

Yes, and they won. But most unions nowadays are white-collar Government workers.

Yes they won to some extent, but I hope you noticed the endless number of workers that were shot to death for daring to protest conditions.

I read the list OI posted and did not see one owner or management dying.

There is something significant there.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-06-07   13:46:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Cynicom (#97)

Yes they won to some extent, but I hope you noticed the endless number of workers that were shot to death for daring to protest conditions.

Nowhere is that being diminished or discounted or even ignored.

The question is this - that was 100 years ago. What is the use of Unions today?

Do we have management shooting workers today? If the answer is no, then the question still remains -- what are unions "protecting" their people from TODAY?

The best that I can find is that Unions protect workers from prosecution for the workers' OWN malfeasance, the workers' OWN criminal activity, and the workers' OWN incompetence.

If you want to live a century in the past, feel free, but that has little to no bearing on what goes on TODAY.

mirage  posted on  2009-06-07   14:26:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: mirage (#98)

What is the use of Unions today?

What private-sector unions? We've already agreed that they're mostly non-existent in corporate America today. They've been busted, driven out, dismantled. Now where they had remained (auto industry) those industries themselves have been hollowed out.

With free trade, free flow of international capital, and open immigration unions are definitely impotent.

That situation has arisen because of Americans answering the phony call for free enterprise. An America-first form of free enterprise might have worked, but the capitalists said that wasn't good enough. They wanted the world. Now they have it, and we have nothing.

Deasy  posted on  2009-06-07   14:31:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Deasy (#100)

With free trade, free flow of international capital, and open immigration unions are definitely impotent.

Except in certain "showcase" industries like the Auto Industry where the Federal Government through the NLRB keeps them alive.

You're correct in your analysis that free trade, free flow of capital, NAFTA, and open immigration has demolished companies and thus unions. That is why GOVERNMENT WORKERS are now the majority of union members.

Thus my question I haven't gotten a good answer for on this thread. "What good are the Unions for white collar Government workers?" I get a bunch of crap in response saying "Oh you don't know history" - really? Still the same, the question remains that nobody wants to deal with. Avoidance of the question tells me that posters on this thread are living in the past and don't comprehend that times have changed, nor do they want to.

Every company that can has gone away from defined benefit plans. The automakers were stuck with it due to Federal interference. Now with bankruptcies, those are going to go away as well.

If the Unions really were protecting their workers, they would have taken the pensions onto themselves as opposed to saddling the companies with them. A company can take losses and wind up downsizing and in trouble. If the Unions had half a brain, they would have managed the pension funds themselves.

Of course, that assumes the Unions are honest. Historically, they haven't been. Ask Jimmy Hoffa about that.

mirage  posted on  2009-06-07   14:45:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: mirage (#102)

Of course, that assumes the Unions are honest. Historically, they haven't been. Ask Jimmy Hoffa about that.

Let's take that a step further. What has been honest about 20th/21st century American politics and social policy? Given all the lies, all the distortions, why wouldn't people join unions as the best way to attempt to obtain their piece of the pie? Nothing has worked out as planned, not just unions. Singling them out is a favorite Republican pastime, and of course the Republican party has historically earned millions in corporate donations on that basis.

Every company that can has gone away from defined benefit plans. The automakers were stuck with it due to Federal interference. Now with bankruptcies, those are going to go away as well.
You're not telling us anything new. We know that America's industrial might has been hollowed out. We know that its most successful businesses have been laid low. We know that hard work isn't enough.
Thus my question I haven't gotten a good answer for on this thread. "What good are the Unions for white collar Government workers?"
They too will come to find that there is no such thing as commitment. They too will learn that when a country goes broke, even unions can't help them. But they hoped, and they joined. If they want to be union, let them. If you want to know why they're union, ask them, not us. I can't see anything in the constitution that bars them from joining unions.
You're correct in your analysis that free trade, free flow of capital, NAFTA, and open immigration has demolished companies and thus unions. That is why GOVERNMENT WORKERS are now the majority of union members.
That makes sense to me. Everything else can be off-shored, underbid, outsourced, Blackwatered, and so forth. You're not persuading anyone that unions are obsolete in that regard.

I'd like to remind you that it has long been a Republican, "conservative" plank to open up free trade, permit migrant workers onto our agribusiness farms, and make the free international flow of capital possible. That along with union busting has been very good for the Republican party until recently.

Nobody cares anymore. Jobs for anyone are too scarce. GOP conservatives and anti-union conservatives (who aren't really patriotic and aren't really pro-worker) have had their way. America's industries are toast. Capital is more mobile than ever before. It seems to fly right out of the pockets of the American people now, faster than ever. And now the Democrats are helping, since they're all working for the same people anyway.

Deasy  posted on  2009-06-07   15:07:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Deasy (#104)

Everything else can be off-shored, underbid, outsourced, Blackwatered, and so forth. You're not persuading anyone that unions are obsolete in that regard.

Tell us how Unions can prevent this and you will make a point for them.

I'll tell you the truth in this matter - they can't prevent it.

mirage  posted on  2009-06-07   16:03:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: mirage (#106)

None of us can. Where did you have the impression that I was pro-union? I'm an America firster. All I'm saying is that unionizing is inevitable given the history of international capitalism.

Deasy  posted on  2009-06-07   16:05:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Deasy (#107)

Where did you have the impression that I was pro-union?
All I'm saying is that unionizing is inevitable given the history of international capitalism.

Unionizing is inevitable only under certain conditions.

You will note that Honda and Toyota don't have Union shops. Why is that?

mirage  posted on  2009-06-07   16:23:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: mirage (#108)

Toyota union leader shot dead in Venezuela
Tue May 5, 2009 6:30pm EDT
www.reuters.com/article/r...ce5/idUSTRE5446TA20090505

It's not true.

Deasy  posted on  2009-06-07   16:28:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#110. To: Deasy (#109)

It's not true.

That's Venezuela which is in complete chaos currently.

Are you saying the United States can actually be compared to Venezuela? Granted, it is possible to claim we have Barack Chavez in office, but so far, we don't have a Dictatorship.

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