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Title: DUI law ruled unconstitutional Va. presumes guilt if blood-alcohol level is 0.08, a judge says
Source: Richmond Times Dispatch
URL Source: http://www.timesdispatch.com/servle ... 156&path=!news&s=1045855934842
Published: Aug 12, 2005
Author: Matthew Baracat
Post Date: 2005-08-12 20:38:50 by Zipporah
Keywords: unconstitutional, blood-alcohol, presumes
Views: 61
Comments: 10

McLEAN -- A Fairfax County judge has ruled that key components of Virginia's drunken-driving laws are unconstitutional, citing an obscure, decades-old U.S. Supreme Court decision that could prompt similar challenges nationwide.

Virginia's law is unconstitutional because it presumes that an individual with a blood-alcohol content of 0.08 or higher is intoxicated, denying a defendant's right to a presumption of innocence, Judge Ian O'Flaherty ruled in dismissing charges against at least two alleged drunken drivers last month.

As a district judge, O'Flaherty's rulings do not establish any formal precedent, but word of the constitutional argument is spreading quickly among the defense bar. Every state has similar presumptions about intoxication at a 0.08 blood-alcohol level, so defense lawyers across the nation are likely to make similar arguments.

"I am sure there will be lawyers out in the field making similar arguments tomorrow," Steven Oberman, chairman of the DUI defense committee at the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, said in a telephone interview yesterday.

Del. David B. Albo, R-Fairfax, a defense lawyer who often practices in Fairfax, said he disagrees with O'Flaherty's ruling and sees no difference between a presumption of intoxication at 0.08 and a presumption of speeding at 80 mph.

He said he did not see any reason to change Virginia's drunken-driving laws. "So far not a single judge in Virginia has ruled the same way," he said. "It's just one judge."

Corinne Magee, a McLean defense lawyer who successfully argued the issue to O'Flaherty, said the judge's ruling is based on a 1985 U.S. Supreme Court case called Francis v. Franklin, which deals with prosecutors' obligation to prove all elements of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt.

Magee said she came across the Francis case doing research on another case and realized it might apply to Virginia's drunken-driving laws.

"Frankly, I was surprised" that the judge dismissed the case based on her constitutional arguments, Magee said yesterday. "But I think Judge O'Flaherty's ruling is based on a very solid reading of this case."

She said Virginia's law is problematic not just because of the presumption of intoxication at 0.08, but also a presumption in the law that the blood-alcohol level at the time the test is taken is equal to the level at the time of the offense, even if the test occurs hours after police make a stop. Magee said a person's blood-alcohol level can fluctuate up or down depending on when a person had their last drink and how their body metabolizes alcohol.

Prosecutors are now taking steps to avoid O'Flaherty on all drunken-driving cases, withdrawing cases assigned to him and instead obtaining indictments that send the cases directly to Circuit Court. Prosecutors cannot appeal cases dismissed by a district court judge, but could appeal if a circuit judge makes a similar ruling.

Fairfax County Commonwealth's Attorney Robert F. Horan Jr. did not return phone calls seeking comment yesterday.

Patrick O'Connor, president of the Northern Virginia chapter of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, said O'Flaherty's decision "undermines the efforts of the police and prosecutors to enforce the DUI laws, puts drunk drivers back behind the wheel and potentially denies justice to victims of drunk drivers." He has requested a meeting with the judge.

O'Flaherty, who has a reputation as a fairly tough judge among defense lawyers, turned down a request for an interview. Rulings in District Court are made orally, so there is no written ruling outlining his rationale.

Oberman said laws establishing a presumption of intoxication at 0.08 blood-alcohol level have been upheld in the past, but a new challenge like the one raised by Magee provides an opportunity to revisit the issue in a different context. He said the argument's potential effectiveness will vary from state to state based on the exact wording of the DUI laws and other factors.

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

I don't want drunks, including myself, driving, first of all for all you lurkers.

What a stupid ruling, anyone with a .08 is equally drunk, and we as a society do have a right to say that's too drunk to be driving.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-12   20:42:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Dakmar (#1)

What a stupid ruling, anyone with a .08 is equally drunk, and we as a society do have a right to say that's too drunk to be driving.

I thought the ruling was interesting. On one hand true the presumption but is the .08 number arbitrary?

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-12   20:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#2)

Yeah, .08 is completely arbitrary, .10 used to be the norm. I remember doing a power slide across a wet parking lot with a Dodge Omni and the cop let me drive home, it's all subjective.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-12   20:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: indrid cold, tom007 (#3)

wrecking cars ping

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-08-12   20:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#0)

Every state has similar presumptions about intoxication at a 0.08 blood-alcohol level,

When the BAC was lowered in Illinois to .08 from .10, the statistics the following year showed that there was ZERO reduction in alcohol related crashes and fatalities.

This, despite the fact that the gubmit pirates and pettifogger shysters destoyed the lives of an extra 50,000 people who were accused of DUI at the lower rates.

Albo is another pig feeding at the trough. The presumption is only valid when you waive your rights by possession of their license and accept the charges without requesting an immediate hearing before the magistrate, and then demanding a warrant for the alledged crime. They can't get one without an injured party, and the state cannot be one. They need an injured party in fact. Or they have to show a public endangerment, i.e., you ran someone off the road, caused someone else to have a wreck or were speeding in a school zone.

If we only knew the law and claimed our rights, all of this BS would stop. And, if we would stop embracing licentiousness we would be much better off.

There are three elements, all of which must be present before an arraignment and a trial can be held. These are, 1) there must be produced a corpus delecti (the body of the crime), 2) a complaint signed by a real live injured party, not a state actor, 3) a warrant with a properly attached affidavit based on the aforesaid complaint and signed by a judge (not a clerk or some other flunky).

Most of all, they must have jurisdiction. An accused party may not enter a plea if one of the three elements is missing. Ergo, they do not have jurisdiction if one is missing. First and foremost, demand a warrant. Any felony or misdemeanor before the court must have a warrant issued for the apprehension of the person in question. NEVER waive your rights, and NEVER sign a ticket.

Without these three elements, they have no case, unless you waive your rights. There is a method to this madness, and these plundering pirates and insolent, disobedient public servants whose parasitic existence depends upon getting as many convistions and collecting the largest amount of fines possible will do everything and anything to make you a victim of criminal government.

MADD and SADD are a travesty to the system of justice. They are merely another special interest group, and not a very good one either. I liken them to the ADL. And, what about the lives of people that are ruined by overzealous cops and prosecutors? Anyone with a lick of sense knows the cops are out there railroading people who do not deserve it. They have tried to get me a few times in the past and failed.

I hate their tyrannical asses with a passion.

I would dearly love to go to town, go into a bar and drink only bottled water. And then come out stumbling and set up the lousy rats for a big time lawsuit.

I hate their tyrannical asses with a passion.

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron

BTP Holdings  posted on  2005-08-12   22:39:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: BTP Holdings (#5)

Are you trying to say it's bogus?

Comfortably Numb

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-12   22:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#6)

Are you trying to say it's bogus?

It's all another scam to raise revenue.

I have a friend who has possession of a statement of a judge in Michigan who says as much. I wish I could find a copy of it. There has to be something out there about this. I have not tried to do a search on it. Maybe I should try it.

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron

BTP Holdings  posted on  2005-08-12   23:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah (#6)

Are you trying to say it's bogus?

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says DUI is a revenue producing tool and has nothing to do with traffic safety.

http://ww w.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/enforce/pub/century.pdf

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron

BTP Holdings  posted on  2005-08-12   23:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8)

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/enforce/pub/century.pdf

OOOPS, I goofed. That file is gubmit propaganda IN FAVOR of the scam.

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron

BTP Holdings  posted on  2005-08-12   23:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BTP Holdings (#9)

The stats are bullshit too. They lump everything together under "Alcohol related." Most alcohol related accidents are drunks walking out in front of cars etc.

I don't have a problem with arresting real drunks and getting them off the road but the lower the threshold the more money to be made by both the government and the insurance companies. Everyone has a different tolerance to alcohol and a one size fits all approach is just nonsense.

It will be lowered a little at a time until you can get nailed for taking a few teaspoons of Vicks formula 44 for a chest cold. Don't under estimate the greed of the gooberment.

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-08-13   8:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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