Title: Obama Warns not to challenge Official 9/11 Story Source:
[None] URL Source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuASoVK8f9c Published:Jun 7, 2009 Author:BBC stamped the video Post Date:2009-06-07 15:11:56 by Amandil Keywords:911, lies, obama, facts Views:517 Comments:24
#2. To: Amandil, lodwick, jethro tull, rotara, psusa, james deffenbach (#0)
The height of arrogance. Who can't see through the 1984esque Newspeak? "AQ killed 3000 people on that day...these are facts...." //repeat it often enough and people might believe it? Well if they're facts, then who helped them? Who armed them? Who created Osama bin Laden ---> The USA and that is a fact. Who flew the bin Ladens out of the US after 9-11 when everyone else was not allowed to fly? ---> The US government and that is a fact. OK so let's talk about facts.....
Facts? they don't need no stinking facts ... just criminalize the truth and those who speak of it, keep handing out the meds and start work on the next big lie ...
~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~
He's preaching to the choir. No one else gives a flying fuck what he says about anything, much less about 9/11.
And Indie, those facts you list are not open for their consideration. They are pointedly ignored.
And there's so many facts like that out there it's a wonder anyone believes the official story. If they believe that fairy tale, do they still sit on Santas' lap? Do people have to put a bib on them and spoon feed them and change their diapers?
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It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
Are you sure that the NORAD operation simulated WTC attacks?
I am sure that NORAD was quite busy playing with simulated attacks on our country that day, (Cooincedence?) ~ our 'defenders' were even confused enough to ask the question, "Is this real world?" once the reports started coming in of the WTC event ~
there is plenty of physical evidence, audio evidence, published guberment documents to display quite clearly, this attack scenario was practiced several times previous to 911 ~ even the pentagon itself published photos of their planning for a 'potential' hit, perhaps they missed the memo regarding BushCo's plans to deny anyone ever coulda imagined such a thing happening ...
I am certain we were lied to on a grand scale and the list of 'coincidences' occuring that day is quite long
~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~
I have plenty of questions about 9/11, but I'm just not sure that Alex is being accurate here. I don't know, for example, that the WTC buildings were named in the exercise.
yea, I really shoulda known better than to use a report by AJ ... I forgot how much many here like him ~ ain't no secret that I don't like his style much when he has the bullhorn on the street, but, one can look at the documents he presents then go find em online and read em yourself, if they still exist ... many are missing now that I have seen before and tried to find for you all again today ... just dead links in my research list now ... neat trick ... time for work now ... BBL
~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~
Al Qaeda killed nearly 3,000 people...victims were innocent men, women, and children...who had done nothing to harm anybody yet Al Qaeda chose to ruthlessly murder these people and claim credit for the attack.
Where's Tom with his Iraqi dead logo?
The US Government killed over 1.3 [?] million people....victims were innocent men, women, and children...who had done nothing to harm anybody yet the US Government chose to ruthlessly murder these people and claim credit for the attacks. Millions more were left homeless, and their country is left in shambles.
" Former Vice President Dick Cheney wants a do-over. After being party to an administration that repeatedly sought to tie the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks with Saddam Hussein, he’s ready to let that assertion go.
In an interview with Fox News’ Greta van Susteren Monday, Cheney said there was no evidence tying Iraq and 9/11 — and that there never was.......
Now, after 4,308 US servicemembers have lost their lives in Iraq, and no longer in office, the vociferous GOP hawk appears to have changed his mind."
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speechhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#21. To: lodwick, Amandil, FormerLurker, Cynicom (#13)
MIHOP, here
TAOP, here: took advantage of it on purpose, here. I'm not sure what to think about the causes. But I do think FL's links offer some details on what buildings were in the exercises, in Virginia.
It's very important to be accurate with this material. People should be upset about the truth, with nothing distorted or exaggerated. What we can prove is quite disturbing by itself.
All we need to know is that Iraq had nothing directly to do with 9/11.
It's very important to be accurate with this material. People should be upset about the truth, with nothing distorted or exaggerated. What we can prove is quite disturbing by itself.
~ well put
~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~
In an interview with Fox News’ Greta van Susteren Monday, Cheney said there was no evidence tying Iraq and 9/11 — and that there never was.......
Now, after 4,308 US servicemembers have lost their lives in Iraq, and no longer in office, the vociferous GOP hawk appears to have changed his mind."
note to self....
"...An Iraq-9/11 link? A report says Bush was told no -- in 2001 (excerpt) www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html The Aug. 6, 2001, presidential daily briefing is the stuff of legend, but we haven't heard so much about the Sept. 21, 2001, PDB. That may change soon. Reporting in the National Journal, Murray Waas says George W. Bush was told in the Sept. 21 PDB that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the attacks of 9/11.
As Richard Clarke recounts in his book, Bush asked his aides on Sept. 12, 2001, "to go back over everything, everything," to see if Saddam Hussein was linked in any way to the attacks. "But, Mr. President," Clarke said, "al-Qaida did this." Clarke says that Bush responded by saying, "I know, I know, but ... see if Saddam was involved. Just look. I want to know any shred."
Waas says that the CIA was able to report back on one shred, but it wasn't the one Bush wanted. The president was told on Sept. 21, Waas says, that "the few credible reports" of contacts between Iraq and al-Qaida involved attempts by Saddam Hussein to monitor the group, which he considered a threat to his regime. Waas says the CIA assessment was distributed to a number of administration officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, who would go on to suggest repeatedly that the United States had solid evidence of a link between Saddam and al-Qaida.
The Senate Intelligence Committee has asked to see a copy of the Sept. 21 PDB. So far, Waas says, the White House has refused to provide one. -- Tim Grieve...."
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another interesting tidbit from the same page:
....Steve's Note: The author Greg Szymanski is a very reputable investigative reporter, than has been doing a lot of good work on a variety of topics. This following story is legitimate.
Utah Lawyer Hospitalized After Being Targeted by Homeland Security for Information Linking Five U.S. Supreme Court Justices With Bribery Over Bush v. Gore Decision 24 Nov 2005 By Greg Szymanski www.arcticbeacon.com/arti...article/1518131/37992.htm
A prominent Utah lawyer, working on an explosive Coca-Cola patent case appeal linking five U.S. Supreme Court justices with taking Coke bribe money in the Bush v. Gore decision, was hospitalized last week in Salt Lake City under suspicious circumstances. Paul Young, a former law professor touted as a brilliant legal mind, was unexpectedly hospitalized with serious respiratory or pneumonia like conditions and remains in serious condition.
Unavailable for comment, Young told an associate this week who heads up a nationwide public interest court reform group that he immediately fell ill and was rushed to the hospital after being approached by two men in business suits who tricked him into inhaling toxic chemicals.
Sherman H. Skolnick, the head of the Chicago based court reform group, told the Arctic Beacon Wednesday in an extended telephone conversation from his south side Chicago home: “I just got off the telephone with Paul and he could hardly talk, but he told me he was approached by two large Samoan-looking men in suits, saying they were businessmen. While making conversation, they handed him a ball point pen and as they walked away, they turned to Paul, saying strangely without a clear meaning ‘you’ll be needing us.’ “When he clicked the pen, a substance was ejected and that’s when he said he immediately fell ill.” Skolnick said Young also was notified the two businessmen played the same potentially deadly trick on one of his female legal assistant’s, who is still missing and her condition unknown.
“These guys are playing for keeps now and it’s all apart of the attack on all of us because of the information we have in our possession regarding the Supreme Court judges and the Coca-Cola/Disney bribery money passing hands in the Bush v. Gore case, which installed George W. Bush as the current resident and occupant of the White House” said Skolnick, adding he was recently notified through credible sources that he and others in his court reform group have been specifically targeted by Homeland Security or what he calls the American Gestapo. Skolnick said he was recently tipped-off by a Chicago federal judge, one of his numerous contacts made in his 50 year career of ‘judge busting,’ that he, Young and others are smack dab in the middle of a ‘scam Bush administration probe’ to put them behind bars for bogus homeland security violations. "Members of our Chicago-headquartered court-reform group face seizure of their properties, assets, goods, licenses, and records, and face the possibility of also being stripped of our citizenship and making us detainees without time limits and without trials and without right to consult attorneys.”
Skolnick claims the Bush administration is pulling out all the stops, as the attack on Young demonstrates, to use intimidation, life-threatening tactics and the Patriot Act to silence the group in an effort to protect the five high court judges from felony charges, stemming from their majority decision installing Bush as President in an illegal fashion.
The case, pinning the judges to the wall, is long and legally complicated but involves a federal copyright infringement case filed against Coca-Cola by a graphic designer named Robert E. Kolody, the man who Young represented in his appeal. Skolnick, helping Kolody in his case, uncovered shenanigans by Kolody’s original attorney who admitted to Skolnick in the courthouse cafeteria that he permitted Coca Cola and their attorneys to spy on his client’s confidential legal strategies.
The accusations opened up a can of worms, as well as leading to other secret documents obtained by Kolody and the court reform group, showing not only that the 14 judge federal en banc panel assembled in Chicago unfairly and arbitrarily blocked Kolody’s appeal, but also that they blocked information that secret Coca-Cola and Disney funds were used, according to Skolnick, “to bribe and corrupt the five judge majority, spear-headed by Justice Anton Scalia, who installed Bush in the Oval Office.” “Thereafter, to try to unblock the appeal, Kolody retained Young, the brilliant Utah lawyer who was unsuccessful in getting the appeal to proceed which would have obviously implicated the fourteen appeals judges in obstructions of justice to assist Scalia and four others on the High Court to hush up the Coke/Disney bribery in Bush vs. Gore,” said Skolnick. “To put Paul Young out of action, first a prosecutor and judge in Utah framed up Paul Young on phony criminal charges. Now, they obviously attacked him and he is still in grave condition as I just finished talking with him from the hospital. “This all comes from the information we have that the Bush v Gore decision was corruptly and arbitrarily procured through secret use of funds, obtained by book-cooking, from Coca-Cola and also Disney. It should also be mentioned that many of Coke's overseas offices are in great part proprietary operations of the American CIA.” Those under surveillance and targeted for arrest by Homeland Security include Skolnick, Young, two associates named Robert J. Corr and Michael W. Lynch, as well as an international business consultant who wishes to remain anonymous although well-known by authorities.
“Most all Americans obey ‘Court Orders’, whether taking away their Liberty , or Property, or Peace of Mind. As a result, the Federal Courts, for example, do not have to, so far, enforce their ‘Court Orders’ by ‘bayonet law’, where a military unit would have to be sent in to guarantee that the ‘Court Order’ as stated and written, is complied with by persons against whom the ‘Court Orders’ operate. Large, corrupt corporate interests, so far, have been assured by the corrupt, politicized, venal ‘for sale’ Federal Judiciary that their "Court Orders" will be enforced against the peons of America, the ‘shirtless ones’.
“In the current era, any supposed Insurrection of the American common folk, using the Second Amendment or otherwise, in opposition to the quiet enforcement and submission to Federal ‘Court Orders’, will be met with brute military force, primarily by the several hundred thousand foreign troops almost permanently resident on U.S. soil, but little known to most Americans.” ---------
I bet Skolnick did not die of natural causes.
beware of Samoans bearing pens.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speechhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm