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Title: Anti-War Mother Facing Credibility Issues
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URL Source: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/cgi- ... wsbrief.plx?id=2247881640&fa=1
Published: Aug 13, 2005
Author: Douglas Maher
Post Date: 2005-08-13 14:09:52 by Willie Green
Keywords: Credibility, Anti-War, Mother
Views: 2139
Comments: 258
For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use. Crawford, Texas (AHN) - Pressure mounted against anti-war protester and mother of fallen Army Spc. Casey Sheehan Friday from millions of bloggers as well as cable news and talk radio outlets began to rip her intentions as well as her motivations to shreds. Ms. Sheehan is camping out on the road that leads to President Bush's Crawford, Texas ranch for the entire month of August where Bush makes an annual visit. The President continues his day-to-day business with daily briefings, trips to sign bills around the nation, and meets with organizations across the country while returning to the ranch by the afternoon. The President's motorcade has passed Ms. Sheehan numerous times without stopping to address her or her fellow anti-war protesters who claim they want to ask the president questions about "why he lied to them about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and an Al-Qaeda link to the country," which reportedly never existed. But as the week went on, numerous stories began to emerge about Ms. Sheehan and her ties to radical left-wing anti-war groups as well as inaccurate versions of her first meeting with President Bush at Fort Lewis in Washington. An unearthed article documented in the Vacaville Reporter News contradicted the current story Sheehan has been playing in front of dozens of reporters and media outlets across the world. Now Ms. Sheehan finds herself in an even deeper credibility issues as bloggers from various websites including Free Republic.com and military forums on the Internet discovered images during a google search of the first meeting of Bush and Sheehan where the President is giving Sheehan a consoling kiss on her cheek in a group family photo. Ms. Sheehan made no official comment about the discovery of the photo's on Friday but claims that she will move her protest to the sidewalks in front of the White House where the President is scheduled to return after Labor Day weekend.
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#81. To: Lady X (#78)
lol
The tribal ragheads have been killing each other since the dawn of recorded history. If Dubya thinks he can help some of them establish a more civilized method of resolving their differences, I'm willing to skepticly go along with it.
You did read this article written by YOUR right Reverand Patrick J. Buchanan, did you Willie?? Go, Pat, Go!! ...isn't that what YOU say Dear Willie? March 24, 2003 issue Copyright © 2003 The American Conservative Whose War? A neoconservative clique seeks to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interest. by Patrick J. Buchanan http://www.amconmag.com/03_2 4_03/cover.html Go, Pat, Go!! This article reads like something Cindy Sheehan would have written (or, at least, agree with 100%). Right Willie?? BTW and if given the chance, would you like to run over Cindy Sheehan with an IDF Catapiller bulldozer??
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
Do you honestly think that's what we mobilized an army for? To play referee? In the history of warfare, armies have only been mobilized for a handful of reasons. Defense of country (N/A here), promotion of creed/religion/empire, acquisition of wealth/resources/land. There are no other reasons for war. There are only pretenses.
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You obviously don't know how the Constitution works. That explains a bit of your hate American / hate Americans / hate freedom position. The President, the Congress and the rest of the Federal Government have enumerated powers. If it's not in the Constitution, they are not supposed to be doing it. The way I read the Constitution, and the way most others read it is that the war powers only provide for the Common defense. Study the country you live in sometime. It's not as bad as you think it is. There is no need to for the hate you bear against this country or the freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution. In addition, have some respect for the country you live in. Not everyone here is a slimey loud mouthed coward sitting behind a keyboard - like you. Some have actually fought and died for the freedoms you hate - but still employ and enjoy. Some have the guts to go out and stand up for what they believe in. Even if it means taking cheap shots from gutless cowards like you. Now go go back to your beer and keyboard. Tell us what a big, bad warrior you are. Once more ask Christine what SHE knows about fighting and then tell us how you slithered out of Viet Nam on your cowardly belly. Tell us how you slithered out of Gulf War I on your cowardly belly. Then tell us why you won't sign up for the current war you so ardently support - you are eligible to go you know. Your bullshit last night about being too old is simply not true.
Perhaps killing another 100,000 more or so Iraqis should teach them the very valuable lesson of civilly resolving thier differences. Capital idea.
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
Why is it any of our business to begin with? This isn't a defensive war. It has been definitively shown that Iraq posed no threat. Given that Iraq poses no threat, why are we there resolving differences for the Iraqis?
No. PJB has an accurate assessment of the neocon influence on the Administration's policies.
Well ... at least you're coming back to reality. Last night you were claiming that her son was killed by the evil foreigners who masquerade as Iraqi insurgents. I suppose the implication was that the loving Iraqis - who toss sweets and flowers - would never kill an American solder.
A neoconservative clique seeks to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interest. PJB No neoconservative clique ensnaring our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interest = no Iraqi "insurgents" = Sheehan's son still alive. Get it??
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
"Neocon influence" and "Dubya" A distinction witout a difference. And, yes, they are both why the Sheehan boy is now dead.
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
Perhaps killing another 100,000 more or so Iraqis should teach them the very valuable lesson of civilly resolving thier differences. How about that, Willie? Good idea?
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
How about that, Willie? Good idea? He coundn't care less if they all die, as long as it doesn't interrupt his football game.
God is always good!
Go Dak Go!!! Expect "futility of voting third party" sermon any time now, tom. That was a rant? You have a bad tendency to stretch the truth, but you are not clever enough to co-opt anyone into your agenda. You remind me of a TV evangelist, hoping the masses will be fooled by your constant invoking of fears you yourself try to implant in people.
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
I am quite sure inciteing these peoples are what it's all about. Experts at it. Sure you can get a Doctorate in it at the "Universities of the Americas".
As far as I'm concerned, it's because, with the endorsement of both our Congress and the UN, Papa Bush made a military committment to liberate Kuwait. And because in the aftermath, Saddam Hussein repeatedly violated the restrictions that were imposed on him. Now don't get into a sidetrack rant about WMDs. There is no doubt that this is a World Government clusterfuck.
It worked with the Japanese.
If Dubya thinks he can help some of them establish a more civilized method of resolving their differences, I'm willing to skepticly go along with it. Willie Green posted on 2005-08-13 21:33:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Mankind has been killing each other well before the dawn of history, Willie Green. The "Ragheads" you racially slander, and this does establish Willie Green as a Racist, have no more or less been killing different tribes than say the Vikings, Scots or Romans. The governmental tribal killers love you Willie Green, because you are such an easy dupe for them, as a matter a fact, they need masses of fools like you as their Oxygen. Been the same for ten thousand years, prolly much more. And you don't know enough to be embaressed.
God is always good! RickyJ posted on 2005-08-13 22:14:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Seems to be the case with WG and alot of other MSM smoking crank addicts. Da BIG GAME, Look at dat guy run!!! Pathetic.
Bullshit.
This is true, because if it wasn't your father could go back and perform a regular sexual act on your mother instead of the unmentionable one that resulted in your conception.
The ragheads aren't a "race", moron.
The ragheads aren't a "race", moron. Willie Green posted on 2005-08-13 23:15:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply So who did you mean, Wille Green?????? Paraguayians???, House painters???, astronuats??? The Roto rooter man? Willie Green????? Do you know what "disingiuous" means???
Hey Willie...it's time to relax and cut your losses. We've gotten our asses kicked in Iraq, and the American sheeple are growing wiser by the day. Despite your bloodlust, the Pubbies face midterm elections and will begin to run from this president like their asses were on fire. That said, you and a hand full of other loons will be left waving flags, in a sad attempt to rally the nation. Think of Saigon in '75. History repeats itself.
Better yet can you spell the word, I can't!
Movin on up, You need to get past this hate, Willie.
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
I hate the Jeffersons, they're the ones who really want to close CBGBs
Yes, I get it.
This statement is an oxymoron.
Spoken like a true brain dead robot.
Bullshit. Pinheads who intentionally misrepresent what I say bore the shit out of me. You're going on the bozo filter. Adios! It's from the article you posted last night ninney. Here is the link: Willie's Stuff Here's a nice response that was on the thread, and which you never answered: #3. To: Willie Green (#0) Casey Sheehan was cut down by foreign insurgents ... Do you have a link or is this simply more over the top propaganda? How do you know that it was foreign insurgents. The reports I've seen out of Iraq indicate that most of the insurgents are Iraqi. Rumbsfeld even confirmend this. So how do you know that the particular insurgent that shot Sheehan's son was a foreign insurgent? Answer - you don't. But you need this silly sort of dishonest propaganda to support your arguments. They fail without the spin. This by itself should tell you something. crack monkey posted on 2005-08-11 16:52:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply So not only was the assertion in the article you posted, it was called to your attention on the thread. Do you stand behind what you post or not??
The Cheney /Rumsfield admin have done more to undermine our troops than Osama.
Willie, since you don't have me on bozo, I would appreciate an answer to my responce to your bullshit claim here. See my post above.
I am, Jethro.
What do they care about expendable cannon fodder?
You could have volunteered for Nam but no, instead you hid behind a high draft number. Just Like a typical chickenhawk.
Willie Green posted on 2005-08-13 23:35:39 ET Reply Trace Private Re Your hatred of mankind, and love of government is noted. As well as the savageness of your method of dealing with conflicts, caused, mainly, by the governmental elites, who would sacrifice you and your family in a instant, to procure for themselves, a beautiful life. Willie Green you are a SUCKER. I do not to be mean about it, but I think you can handle it, that's a compilment.
Still waiting for an answer here Willie. By the way, I just checked. You don't have me on bozo so I know you see this. You cowardly, blowhard piece of worthless chickenshit.
Less in future SS "Benefits"?
WHAT MCNAMARA LEARNED FROM VIETNAM McNamara's List:
We misjudged then -- and we have since -- the geopolitical intentions of our
adversaries . . . and we exaggerated the dangers to the United States of their
actions. We viewed the people and leaders of South Vietnam in terms of our
own experience. . . . We totally misjudged the political forces within the
country. We underestimated the power of nationalism to motivate a people to
fight and die for their beliefs and values. Our judgments of friend and foe
alike reflected our profound ignorance of the history, culture, and politics of
the people in the area, and the personalities and habits of their leaders.
We failed then -- and have since -- to recognize the limitations of modern,
high-technology military equipment, forces and doctrine. . . . We failed as
well to adapt our military tactics to the task of winning the hearts and minds
of people from a totally different culture. We failed to draw Congress and
the American people into a full and frank discussion and debate of the pros and
cons of a large-scale military involvement . . . before we initiated the
action. After the action got under way and unanticipated events forced us
off our planned course . . . we did not fully explain what was happening and
why we were doing what we did. We did not recognize that neither our
people nor our leaders are omniscient. Our judgment of what is in another
people's or country's best interest should be put to the test of open
discussion in international forums. We do not have the God-given right to shape
every nation in our image or as we choose. We did not hold to the
principle that U.S. military action . . . should be carried out only in
conjunction with multinational forces supported fully (and not merely
cosmetically) by the international community. We failed to recognize that
in international affairs, as in other aspects of life, there may be problems
for which there are no immediate solutions. . . . At times, we may have to live
with an imperfect, untidy world. Underlying many of these errors lay our
failure to organize the top echelons of the executive branch to deal
effectively with the extraordinarily complex range of political and military
issues. By the way, Saunders says that, in a phone conversation
with McNamara, the latter rendered the following opinion of the Iraqi invasion,
"We're misusing our influence. It's just wrong what we're doing. It's
morally wrong, it's politically wrong, it's economically wrong." If
that is so, what do we do now?
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#82. To: christine (#80)
he thinks we need to "kill all the GD ragheads." at least willie hasn't said that so far.
#83. To: christine, rowdee, all yall here (#81)
Toke down and chill with Kansas, from back in the day.
#84. To: Willie Green, avian virus, christine, Lady X, 1776, zipporah, rowdee, (#77)
#85. To: Willie Green (#82)
If Dubya thinks he can help some of them establish a more civilized method of resolving their differences
#86. To: Willie Green (#77)
Fine, show me the part that forbids the commander-in-chief from taking military action.
#87. To: Willie Green (#82)
If Dubya thinks he can help some of them establish a more civilized method of resolving their differences, I'm willing to skepticly go along with it.
#88. To: Willie Green (#82)
If Dubya thinks he can help some of them establish a more civilized method of resolving their differences, I'm willing to skepticly go along with it.
#89. To: wbales (#84)
This article reads like something Cindy Sheehan would have written (or, at least, agree with 100%).
Right Willie??
But the Bimbo goes over-the-top when she blames Dubya for the death of her son.
Her son was killed by the murderous Iraqi thugs called "insurgents".
#90. To: Willie Green (#89)
Her son was killed by the murderous Iraqi thugs called "insurgents".
#91. To: Willie Green (#89)
Her son was killed by the murderous Iraqi thugs called "insurgents".
#92. To: Willie Green (#89)
PJB has an accurate assessment of the neocon influence on the Administration's policies. But the Bimbo goes over-the-top when she blames Dubya for the death of her son. Her son was killed by the murderous Iraqi thugs called "insurgents".
#93. To: Willie Green (#89)
#94. To: wbales, Willie Green (#93)
Perhaps killing another 100,000 more or so Iraqis should teach them the very valuable lesson of civilly resolving thier differences.
#95. To: Willie Green (#76)
He's on a rant, and it doesn't really matter to him who actually said what.
#96. To: Zipporah (#59)
They'd like nothing better than to incite these people IMO.
#97. To: avian virus (#88)
Why is it any of our business to begin with?
My only concern about those was if they'd be used against our troops.
Their existance is irrelevant to the decision to depose Saddam's regime.
The asshole repeatedly violated the no-fly zone, and as far as I'm concerned, that's sufficient justification to take him out. Hell, Papa Bush never should have left him in power to begin with.
I would have been happier if we sat on the sidelines 15 years ago, and just let the Saudis and Iranians worry about Saddam and the Kuwaitis.
But that ain't what happened and you can't turn back the clock.
The commitment was made, and I support our troops until the committment is fulfilled.
Then we pull OUT of the United Nations.
#98. To: wbales (#93)
How about that, Willie? Good idea?
If it saves American lives, perhaps the world could use a fresh reminder.
#99. To: Willie Green, christine (#82)
The tribal ragheads have been killing each other since the dawn of recorded history.
#100. To: RickyJ (#94)
He coundn't care less if they all die, as long as it doesn't interrupt his football game.
#101. To: avian virus (#90)
Last night you were claiming that her son was killed by the evil foreigners who masquerade as Iraqi insurgents
Pinheads who intentionally misrepresent what I say bore the shit out of me.
You're going on the bozo filter.
Adios!
#102. To: Willie Green (#97)
you can't turn back the clock.
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#103. To: tom007 (#99)
The "Ragheads" you racially slander,
#104. To: Willie Green (#103)
The "Ragheads" you racially slander,
#105. To: Willie Green (#103)
#106. To: All (#104)
Do you know what "disingiuous" means???
#107. To: Willie Green (#82)
The tribal ragheads have been killing each other since the dawn of recorded history.
To the East side...
#108. To: Dakmar (#107)
You need to get past this hate, Willie.
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#109. To: wbales (#91)
No neoconservative clique ensnaring our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interest = no Iraqi "insurgents" = Sheehan's son still alive.
Get it??
I support our troops and their mission despite the neocon clique.
You, on the other hand, are willing to undermine our troops because of the neocon clique.
I will not undermine our troops under any circumstances.
Get it?
#110. To: Willie Green (#109)
I support our troops and their mission despite the neocon clique.
#111. To: Willie Green (#109)
I will not undermine our troops under any circumstances. Get it?
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#112. To: Willie Green (#101)
Last night you were claiming that her son was killed by the evil foreigners who masquerade as Iraqi insurgents
#113. To: Flintlock (#111)
I will not undermine our troops under any circumstances. Get it?
#114. To: Willie Green (#101)
Last night you were claiming that her son was killed by the evil foreigners who masquerade as Iraqi insurgents Bullshit. Pinheads who intentionally misrepresent what I say bore the shit out of me. You're going on the bozo filter. Adios!
#115. To: Jethro Tull (#105)
Think of Saigon in '75. History repeats itself.
I wasn't among those in favor of pulling out back then, either.
Just the opposite: "Nuke 'em till they glow".
#116. To: tom007 (#113)
The Cheney /Rumsfield admin have done more to undermine our troops than Osama.
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#117. To: Willie Green (#115)
I wasn't among those in favor of pulling out back then, either.
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#118. To: Willie Green (#115)
I am, Jethro. I wasn't among those in favor of pulling out back then, either. Just the opposite: "Nuke 'em till they glow".
#119. To: All, Willie Green (#112)
#120. To: Flintlock (#116)
What do they care about expendable cannon fodder?
#121. To: Willie Green (#115)
Just the opposite: "Nuke 'em till they glow".
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