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Title: Anti-War Mother Facing Credibility Issues
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URL Source: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/cgi- ... wsbrief.plx?id=2247881640&fa=1
Published: Aug 13, 2005
Author: Douglas Maher
Post Date: 2005-08-13 14:09:52 by Willie Green
Keywords: Credibility, Anti-War, Mother
Views: 2380
Comments: 258
For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use. Crawford, Texas (AHN) - Pressure mounted against anti-war protester and mother of fallen Army Spc. Casey Sheehan Friday from millions of bloggers as well as cable news and talk radio outlets began to rip her intentions as well as her motivations to shreds. Ms. Sheehan is camping out on the road that leads to President Bush's Crawford, Texas ranch for the entire month of August where Bush makes an annual visit. The President continues his day-to-day business with daily briefings, trips to sign bills around the nation, and meets with organizations across the country while returning to the ranch by the afternoon. The President's motorcade has passed Ms. Sheehan numerous times without stopping to address her or her fellow anti-war protesters who claim they want to ask the president questions about "why he lied to them about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and an Al-Qaeda link to the country," which reportedly never existed. But as the week went on, numerous stories began to emerge about Ms. Sheehan and her ties to radical left-wing anti-war groups as well as inaccurate versions of her first meeting with President Bush at Fort Lewis in Washington. An unearthed article documented in the Vacaville Reporter News contradicted the current story Sheehan has been playing in front of dozens of reporters and media outlets across the world. Now Ms. Sheehan finds herself in an even deeper credibility issues as bloggers from various websites including Free Republic.com and military forums on the Internet discovered images during a google search of the first meeting of Bush and Sheehan where the President is giving Sheehan a consoling kiss on her cheek in a group family photo. Ms. Sheehan made no official comment about the discovery of the photo's on Friday but claims that she will move her protest to the sidewalks in front of the White House where the President is scheduled to return after Labor Day weekend.
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#112. To: Willie Green (#101)
Bullshit. Pinheads who intentionally misrepresent what I say bore the shit out of me. You're going on the bozo filter. Adios! It's from the article you posted last night ninney. Here is the link: Willie's Stuff Here's a nice response that was on the thread, and which you never answered: #3. To: Willie Green (#0) Casey Sheehan was cut down by foreign insurgents ... Do you have a link or is this simply more over the top propaganda? How do you know that it was foreign insurgents. The reports I've seen out of Iraq indicate that most of the insurgents are Iraqi. Rumbsfeld even confirmend this. So how do you know that the particular insurgent that shot Sheehan's son was a foreign insurgent? Answer - you don't. But you need this silly sort of dishonest propaganda to support your arguments. They fail without the spin. This by itself should tell you something. crack monkey posted on 2005-08-11 16:52:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply So not only was the assertion in the article you posted, it was called to your attention on the thread. Do you stand behind what you post or not??
The Cheney /Rumsfield admin have done more to undermine our troops than Osama.
Willie, since you don't have me on bozo, I would appreciate an answer to my responce to your bullshit claim here. See my post above.
I am, Jethro.
What do they care about expendable cannon fodder?
You could have volunteered for Nam but no, instead you hid behind a high draft number. Just Like a typical chickenhawk.
Willie Green posted on 2005-08-13 23:35:39 ET Reply Trace Private Re Your hatred of mankind, and love of government is noted. As well as the savageness of your method of dealing with conflicts, caused, mainly, by the governmental elites, who would sacrifice you and your family in a instant, to procure for themselves, a beautiful life. Willie Green you are a SUCKER. I do not to be mean about it, but I think you can handle it, that's a compilment.
Still waiting for an answer here Willie. By the way, I just checked. You don't have me on bozo so I know you see this. You cowardly, blowhard piece of worthless chickenshit.
Less in future SS "Benefits"?
WHAT MCNAMARA LEARNED FROM VIETNAM McNamara's List:
We misjudged then -- and we have since -- the geopolitical intentions of our
adversaries . . . and we exaggerated the dangers to the United States of their
actions. We viewed the people and leaders of South Vietnam in terms of our
own experience. . . . We totally misjudged the political forces within the
country. We underestimated the power of nationalism to motivate a people to
fight and die for their beliefs and values. Our judgments of friend and foe
alike reflected our profound ignorance of the history, culture, and politics of
the people in the area, and the personalities and habits of their leaders.
We failed then -- and have since -- to recognize the limitations of modern,
high-technology military equipment, forces and doctrine. . . . We failed as
well to adapt our military tactics to the task of winning the hearts and minds
of people from a totally different culture. We failed to draw Congress and
the American people into a full and frank discussion and debate of the pros and
cons of a large-scale military involvement . . . before we initiated the
action. After the action got under way and unanticipated events forced us
off our planned course . . . we did not fully explain what was happening and
why we were doing what we did. We did not recognize that neither our
people nor our leaders are omniscient. Our judgment of what is in another
people's or country's best interest should be put to the test of open
discussion in international forums. We do not have the God-given right to shape
every nation in our image or as we choose. We did not hold to the
principle that U.S. military action . . . should be carried out only in
conjunction with multinational forces supported fully (and not merely
cosmetically) by the international community. We failed to recognize that
in international affairs, as in other aspects of life, there may be problems
for which there are no immediate solutions. . . . At times, we may have to live
with an imperfect, untidy world. Underlying many of these errors lay our
failure to organize the top echelons of the executive branch to deal
effectively with the extraordinarily complex range of political and military
issues. By the way, Saunders says that, in a phone conversation
with McNamara, the latter rendered the following opinion of the Iraqi invasion,
"We're misusing our influence. It's just wrong what we're doing. It's
morally wrong, it's politically wrong, it's economically wrong." If
that is so, what do we do now?
Willie....I spend large parts of my day trying to undermine the troops. As you yourself admit, they're fighting an unconstitutional war. So, in effect, it's our patriotic duty to remove this spear tip of this American imperialism. Guess what? Our hard work is paying off. Silly cold warriors like yourself are a dying breed. No longer will your ilk have an easy time expanding the empire. The Iraqi bloody nose we are receiving might just be the best foreign policy rejection we're received since 'nam. Gotta love it.
Willie, if anyone is having an issue estsblishing credibility it's you. I don't think folks here find it possible that you are human..
Hey tough guy. Big bad Freeper warrior. You gonna come out and defend yourself? Or are you gonna run and hide with your tail between your legs like you did in Nam, Gulf War 1 and Gulf War II?
BINGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
For making news during your beloved football game? You really have lost all sense of proportion.
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
What I post and what's in an article that I post are two different things, ninny.
Profound words. Today Vietman did not take over Ohio, and Michigan, as we were promised by LBJ. There is deep sickness in many of the world's governing powers. And our Gov is one of the sickest.
I don't give a damn how many of them die, I will not undermine our troops under any circumstances. Hey, Willie, were you ever OPPOSED to Vietnam War? Still think Vietnam was a great idea? We should still be there? Never should have left? Anyone opposing that war was "undermining" troops. Do think sending troops into an unjust, immoral and unnecessary war is "Supporting the Troops"???
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
yes...and sick sycophantic sheeple worshipping at their feet.
I need to emmended that. Our Gov is hardly the sickest. But as one of the most powerful, being a little sick has powerful consequences.
That's only because you didn't serve one day over there. You didn't know they were poor people just trying to make a living and we were suppose to be over their to help the south stay non-communist, not “nuke them till they glow.” We never planned on nuking them, because it was never a declared war.
God is always good!
He won't answer. His issue is Free trade and the GOP talking points re; Iraq. Any request asking him to step out of his self imposed, political box, will be met with silence. Such is the mindset of warpigs.
No, but those NVA gunboats may come snaking up the Wabash any day now, it never hurts to prepare for the preposterous. I'm hoping to surround the Lufthansa terminal with sharpshooters to ward off the remnants of Viet Cong.
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
REALLY?!? Well, gee, Willie, your own man Buchanan (Go, Pat, Go!) wrote something about an Empire and America--remember that?? What was the name of that book?? Oh yeah, "A Republic, Not an Empire", by Pat Buchanan Things certainly are confusing with you.
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
the mental image..lol
What cracks me up is the neocons try to spin it like I'm the paranoid in this unwanted relationship. Who is using who's money? Who is passing "anti-terror" laws?
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
Did this bitch with the overbite actually say this??????
Faulty analysis, Jethro.
Yet, you are in love with the boob's maniacal and deadly foreign policy.
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
You should be glad I'm not running this forum--I'd ban your stupid ass.
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
Wrong. The history of empire collapse is overexpansion. Today, our jackbooted thugs are in app. 120 nations. All this, while our borders are wide open. This isn't 'mismanagement.' It's treason. Nice try, tho..
Good thing you didn't, either, Jethro, that's my job, by decree of poor otis dead and gone.
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
Not at all. "Don't hit at all if you can help it; ~ Teddy Roosevelt, New York City, February 17, 1899 I'm actually a very gentle, peace-loving, mind-my-own business type of guy.
Mayberry, USA: 'Simpler time, sweeter place'
Ah so....this explains your extensive military background.
How do you do this Willie> Do you go home and hide under your bed like you did in the Viet Nam war? Do you slither off and hide like you did in Gulf War I? Do you dodge the service like you do in the present war? Or do you drink beer and pound the keyboard while sending other people's kids to die?
Do a search on Rory Mayberry Halliburton, nuff to make you goofy.
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
Who are you trying to kid? You don't know what it's like to win.
Ah so....this explains your extensive military background. I think I understand. Willie doesn't get involved. He prefers to send somebody elses kid to get involved. Willie himself sits back, pounds the keyboard and scratches his nuts - like his hero George W. Bush.
OK, right after I memorize the words to Louie Louie by The Kingsmen
we knew that. you expect others to do it for you. btw, for the fourth time, have you encouraged your sons and daughters to go fight for you in iraq? if not, why not?
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#113. To: Flintlock (#111)
I will not undermine our troops under any circumstances. Get it?
#114. To: Willie Green (#101)
Last night you were claiming that her son was killed by the evil foreigners who masquerade as Iraqi insurgents Bullshit. Pinheads who intentionally misrepresent what I say bore the shit out of me. You're going on the bozo filter. Adios!
#115. To: Jethro Tull (#105)
Think of Saigon in '75. History repeats itself.
I wasn't among those in favor of pulling out back then, either.
Just the opposite: "Nuke 'em till they glow".
#116. To: tom007 (#113)
The Cheney /Rumsfield admin have done more to undermine our troops than Osama.
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#117. To: Willie Green (#115)
I wasn't among those in favor of pulling out back then, either.
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#118. To: Willie Green (#115)
I am, Jethro. I wasn't among those in favor of pulling out back then, either. Just the opposite: "Nuke 'em till they glow".
#119. To: All, Willie Green (#112)
#120. To: Flintlock (#116)
What do they care about expendable cannon fodder?
#121. To: Willie Green (#115)
Just the opposite: "Nuke 'em till they glow".
#122. To: Willie Green (#109)
I will not undermine our troops under any circumstances.
#123. To: Willie Green (#115)
#124. To: All (#112)
#125. To: christine (#121)
We underestimated the power of nationalism to motivate a people to fight and die for their beliefs and values.
#126. To: Willie Green (#115)
"Nuke 'em till they glow"
#127. To: avian virus (#112)
It's from the article you posted last night ninney.
Do you stand behind what you post or not??
Don't assume that they're interchangeable, you only make an ass out of yourself.
#128. To: christine (#121)
We did not recognize that neither our people nor our leaders are omniscient. Our judgment of what is in another people's or country's best interest should be put to the test of open discussion in international forums. We do not have the God-given right to shape every nation in our image or as we choose.
#129. To: Willie Green (#109)
I will not undermine our troops under any circumstances.
#130. To: tom007 (#128)
#131. To: All (#128)
And our Gov is one of the sickest.
#132. To: Willie Green (#115)
Just the opposite: "Nuke 'em till they glow".
#133. To: avian virus (#124)
#134. To: tom007 (#128)
Profound words. Today Vietman did not take over Ohio, and Michigan, as we were promised by LBJ.
#135. To: Willie Green (#115)
I wasn't among those in favor of pulling out back then, either.
#136. To: Dakmar (#134)
No, but those NVA gunboats may come snaking up the Wabash any day now, it never hurts to prepare for the preposterous. I'm hoping to surround the Lufthansa terminal with sharpshooters to ward off the remnants of Viet Cong.
#137. To: christine (#136)
#138. To: wbales (#135)
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
#139. To: Jethro Tull (#122)
Our hard work is paying off. Silly cold warriors like yourself are a dying breed. No longer will your ilk have an easy time expanding the empire. The Iraqi bloody nose we are receiving might just be the best foreign policy rejection we're received since 'nam. Gotta love it.
You're patheticly attempting to relive a '60s paradigm.
Oh, the Empire will collapse, alright.
But it won't be because you've made an idiot out of yourself chanting "Make love, not war."
It'll be because the boob in the White House severely mismanaged our domestic economy.
#140. To: Willie Green (#139)
It'll be because the boob in the White House severely mismanaged our domestic economy.
#141. To: Willie Green (#139)
#142. To: Willie Green (#139)
Oh, the Empire will collapse, alright. But it won't be because you've made an idiot out of yourself chanting "Make love, not war." It'll be because the boob in the White House severely mismanaged our domestic economy.
#143. To: Willie Green, Jethro Tull (#139)
But it won't be because you've made an idiot out of yourself chanting "Make love, not war."
#144. To: wbales (#135)
Things certainly are confusing with you.
It's really quite simple.
don't hit a man if you can possibly avoid it;
but if you do hit him, put him to sleep."
I am extremely reluctant to get involved in any type of fight or conflict.
HOWEVER, if I DO become involved, I pull out all the stops.
I don't believe in losing. Simple as that.
#145. To: Dakmar (#143)
by decree of poor otis dead and gone.
#146. To: Willie Green (#144)
I am extremely reluctant to get involved in any type of fight or conflict.
#147. To: Willie Green (#144)
HOWEVER, if I DO become involved, I pull out all the stops.
#148. To: Jethro Tull (#145)
Mayberry, USA: 'Simpler time, sweeter place'
#149. To: Willie Green (#144)
I don't believe in losing. Simple as that.
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#150. To: Jethro Tullm Willie Green (#146)
HOWEVER, if I DO become involved, I pull out all the stops.
#151. To: Dakmar (#148)
#152. To: Willie Green (#144)
I am extremely reluctant to get involved in any type of fight or conflict.
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